Or both male and female creators both get paid equally based on merits rather than their gender. Pretty sure that was sarcasm more than anything but hard to tell.
It's a bit more complex than who the speaker is, unless you can find a way to give the poor a proper audiance and platform that's wide reaching, celebrities are specifically people who can call attention to issues - because they have an audience.
People with clean water can still talk about dirty water in Flint, people who didn't get shot in a school can still talk about school shootings - it's more impactful when an actual victim talks about it, but that only happens with a platform.
I'm not sure, but regardless of what issues they take on, they aren't wrong for speaking about injustices simply because they're celebrities or have a wealth of money.
It's like being against the idea of wealthy people calling for more taxes, or people who own iPhones even talking about child labor.
Eating ourselves to find the perfect spokesperson for a particular issue isn't effective at all; it's just about getting the message and issue out there - if person who has celebrity status because the public gives them attention wants to talk about a core injustices they want to give attention to, okay.
People give them their platform and they're using it for their person pursuit of justices, it's weird to want them to be your specific spokesperson to your specific issues.
You'd have to become a decent spokesperson yourself or support the voice of someone else and find a way to get a large audiance.
That's fair, but I don't agree that celebrities shouldn't have the ability to engage in public discourse about topics issues related to stats and sciences; obviously it's better to have someone talk that has data or is versed in that field.
But our society doesn't put these people on a pedestal automatically, you aren't going to get anything spread or done without a platform, if you feel a particular individual has their facts wrong, you encourage them to correct or highlight a better voice.
I'm not a scientist but I still talk about climate change and want policy changes, anyone with celebrity status can talk about issues, to get your own most effective amount of change you have to navigate who you'll give more attention to or become that yourself.
A lot of folks don't engaged with studies and news, they're informed by the loudest voices; or they're exposed to a decent counter argument; these issues are still public issues that get effected by public opinion.
If you can find a way to get analysts and scientists to have an equally compelling voice in society that's do us a lot of favors, meanwhile this is the system we've got.
And that's fine, but folks having a super negative reaction to celebrities takes away a tool you can use yourself, or adjust to your own messages.
Unless we get out of a system where politics is tied to popular voices, it just seems so pointless to try to shun what is by definition public discourse
You tried. What is this, amateur hour? You're an npc dear.
A casual glance at your post history proves that the only person acting like an npc is you. You have a few canned responses that you use over and over, and somehow you have the fucking balls to call other people npcs? Eat shit, you fucking predictable dumbass.
People who use the phrase "NPC" are so vastly more predictable than anyone they're referring to. Almost... NPC-like.
We get it, bro. You don't like minorities, you're uneducated, you're scared of change, and you're very vocal about your hatred of anyone that disagrees with your small-minded worldview. You're also highly susceptible to conservative or Russian propaganda (one and the same, more often than not). We get it. No need to point it out to the rest of the world.
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Now I have an immediate urge to subscribe to PewDiePie, and I never subscribe to anyone...
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Or both male and female creators both get paid equally based on merits rather than their gender. Pretty sure that was sarcasm more than anything but hard to tell.
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Its a statistical fact that women don't do societies hard work and then they still complain about not making more money than men.
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Quick downvote this guy because it doesn't fit my world view!
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At least in the US this is actually illegal if you can show you’re doing the same work. I would look into that if it applies to you
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Lol this is mensrights, the only content here is obviously ridiculous lies to prove a point.
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Agreed. Which sucks because it could be a sub for legit civil rights but instead it ends up being about whining and lies.
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/r/menslib
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That’s bullshit, merit should come first
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Wow, if I were you I'd be hunting for a new job. That's some pure bs right there.
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Another title "Neo-Nazi brutally attacks African american singer on social media for speaking about equality"
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It's a bit more complex than who the speaker is, unless you can find a way to give the poor a proper audiance and platform that's wide reaching, celebrities are specifically people who can call attention to issues - because they have an audience.
People with clean water can still talk about dirty water in Flint, people who didn't get shot in a school can still talk about school shootings - it's more impactful when an actual victim talks about it, but that only happens with a platform.
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I'm not sure, but regardless of what issues they take on, they aren't wrong for speaking about injustices simply because they're celebrities or have a wealth of money.
It's like being against the idea of wealthy people calling for more taxes, or people who own iPhones even talking about child labor.
Eating ourselves to find the perfect spokesperson for a particular issue isn't effective at all; it's just about getting the message and issue out there - if person who has celebrity status because the public gives them attention wants to talk about a core injustices they want to give attention to, okay.
People give them their platform and they're using it for their person pursuit of justices, it's weird to want them to be your specific spokesperson to your specific issues.
You'd have to become a decent spokesperson yourself or support the voice of someone else and find a way to get a large audiance.
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That's fair, but I don't agree that celebrities shouldn't have the ability to engage in public discourse about topics issues related to stats and sciences; obviously it's better to have someone talk that has data or is versed in that field.
But our society doesn't put these people on a pedestal automatically, you aren't going to get anything spread or done without a platform, if you feel a particular individual has their facts wrong, you encourage them to correct or highlight a better voice.
I'm not a scientist but I still talk about climate change and want policy changes, anyone with celebrity status can talk about issues, to get your own most effective amount of change you have to navigate who you'll give more attention to or become that yourself.
A lot of folks don't engaged with studies and news, they're informed by the loudest voices; or they're exposed to a decent counter argument; these issues are still public issues that get effected by public opinion.
If you can find a way to get analysts and scientists to have an equally compelling voice in society that's do us a lot of favors, meanwhile this is the system we've got.
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And that's fine, but folks having a super negative reaction to celebrities takes away a tool you can use yourself, or adjust to your own messages.
Unless we get out of a system where politics is tied to popular voices, it just seems so pointless to try to shun what is by definition public discourse
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You tried. What is this, amateur hour? You're an npc dear.
A casual glance at your post history proves that the only person acting like an npc is you. You have a few canned responses that you use over and over, and somehow you have the fucking balls to call other people npcs? Eat shit, you fucking predictable dumbass.
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Oh fuck off, you obnoxious cunt.
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People who use the phrase "NPC" are so vastly more predictable than anyone they're referring to. Almost... NPC-like.
We get it, bro. You don't like minorities, you're uneducated, you're scared of change, and you're very vocal about your hatred of anyone that disagrees with your small-minded worldview. You're also highly susceptible to conservative or Russian propaganda (one and the same, more often than not). We get it. No need to point it out to the rest of the world.
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