Just a reminder that white males commit suicide at a massively disproportionate rate than other groups (e.g. Over 10x more than black women). Take care y'all, watch out for the warning signs of your f

TracyMorganFreeman · 2013-02-24T15:39:28+00:00

72% of all suicides in US are white males, who are 36% of the population.

To be fair though, the suicide rate is in some studies slightly higher in Native American men than white men, but the problem is that since there are much fewer Native American men that the rate per 100,000 is less accurate(similar to countries with low maternal mortality rates but have a low number of births annually to begin with).

BAXterBEDford · 2013-02-24T18:53:47+00:00

In the US, there are also about twice as many suicides as murders. A fact that is very rarely discussed.

Eulabeia · 2013-02-24T17:01:26+00:00

The burdens of all the privilege they have are too much to bear.

nicemod · 2013-02-24T19:31:52+00:00

MOD NOTE: If you see anyone urging or supporting suicide in this thread, or anywhere else, please click the "report" button.

OztinL · 2013-02-24T19:31:47+00:00

Reddit chuckles at the idea of white suffering.

"Those poor whites" or "Man it must be so hard to be white" are the typical go to phrases.

Kinda disgusting how society has us mocking the despair of other people.

Nomenimion · 2013-02-24T16:56:57+00:00

Why the emphasis on white vs. black? That sort of crap keeps men divided against each other.

Denisius · 2013-02-24T21:53:36+00:00

But don't forget, the primary victims of white, male suicide are women.

Nomenimion · 2013-02-24T16:51:45+00:00

INB4 all the racists from SRS start laughing about "mangry beardtears."

Kroxxigar · 2013-02-24T22:38:33+00:00

/r/MensRights: Helping men band together and punch depression right in the sack since 1904. I get a warm fuzzy feeling just thinking about it.

AndrewnotJackson · 2013-02-24T23:30:14+00:00

I heard that native americans were the highest rated for suicide. Is this true?

stop_stalking_me · 2013-02-24T20:56:57+00:00

I suffer from depression, anxiety, and a couple personality disorders. I tried to kill myself once. It didn't work at all. It was a pretty pathetic attempt.

Miethos · 2013-02-24T19:28:52+00:00

Yep, my therapist told me this. I'm a white male and I was going through some stuff years ago. She told my parents that the guns needed to be COMPLETELY out of my home because lots of people try to commit suicide.. but boys play with guns, not pills and knives.

formatlostmypw · 2013-02-24T22:54:28+00:00

people always say 'just get help'

is it really all that easy? you kind of have to announce to the world that you are struggling with everyday life. can people go get anonymous help somewhere? from you know, professionals?

mildxsalsa · 2013-02-25T01:19:46+00:00

Going to a therapist a few years ago to address my depression and insomnia was the best decision I ever made. I got to talk through a lot of my issues and over the course of a few months I had a real understanding of who I was. Since then I've gone through a lot, and am now back in therapy (again, of my own will) to address some deeper-seated problems that came to light after a prolonged family problem. You can't stand on crutches forever, and failure to be proactive will only make your situation worse. I see it as a tool, and even though I'm not who I want to be, my toolbox is well-stocked and I feel a bit more hopeful about life.

Miss_anthropyy · 2013-02-24T19:38:15+00:00

Isn't this because they use more successful, violent methods (aka, guns) than females? I think females attempt suicide more often, but males succeed in doing so. Also, there's more stigma in males getting help for mental health issues than females, which could contribute to under-reported rates of mental illness and, of course, ultimately to suicide and other tragic ends.

Edit: source

Suicide was the 8th leading cause of death for males and the 19th leading cause of death for females in 2000. More than four times as many men as women die by suicide, although women report attempting suicide during their lifetime about three times as often as men. Suicide by firearm is the most common method for both men and women, accounting for 57 percent of all suicides in 2000. White men accounted for 73 percent of all suicides and 80 percent of all firearm suicides.

(Just saw the other poster got super-downvoted on this. I am wholeheartedly an MRA and not trying to devalue anything. Feeling depressed enough to attempt suicide is tragic enough, it's not a pissing contest of who has it worse. Everyone deserves help.)

AceGeister · 2013-02-24T19:47:48+00:00

This is a very interesting statistic. imo I think it may be due to the fact that virtually any previously oppressed group blames the white male, and that any white males' problems are often dismissed as fake or laughable because the stereotype is that white men are oppressive and rich. And that's definitely not the case.

2013-02-25T00:53:10+00:00

Go to an amusement park and ride a rollercoaster or eat 5 grams of mushrooms in a dark room by yourself. Having a strong experience of fearing death can be a great remedy for suicidal thoughts. I don't think it's the same for everyone, but I think the wide majority of suicidal thoughts in the modern world come from being so detached from death i.e. we're not afraid enough. We used to run from wooly mammoths and throw spears at Jaguars. Now we sit in boxes all day with no real fear of death. We don't really live enough to fear dying as we should.

ThePigman · 2013-02-25T00:57:51+00:00

It's that bloody male privilege again! Just like everything else, we get suicide several times more often than everyone else!

jianadaren1 · 2013-02-24T22:22:37+00:00

The "white" part was pretty unnecessary - natives and asians also have extremely high suicide rates.

White men are more or less average in terms of male suicide rates.

goolalalash · 2013-02-25T00:38:13+00:00

"Greater social stigma against male depression and a lack of social networks of support and help with depression are often identified as key reasons for men's disproportionately higher level of suicides, since suicide as a "cry for help" is not seen by men as an equally viable option."

This seems to indicate that gender roles make it much harder for men to talk about depression. I suspect the reason it's harder for men to talk about these things is because our society would likely view that as emasculating. Any thoughts?

TheRE_ALone · 2013-02-25T01:14:17+00:00

From what I've read Native Americans (male and female) have higher suicide rates than any other race when adjusted for population.

Most likely to commit suicide by race

American Indian
White
Black
Asian

Females most likely to commit suicide by race

American Indian
White
Asian
Black

Asian men, who are least likely to commit suicide among their sex, are still more likely to commit suicide than a Native American female who have the highest rate among their sex. Males in general commit suicide more.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/suicide/statistics/rates02.html

Nekrosis13 · 2013-02-25T02:21:40+00:00

I tried to get help when I was down, and everyone told me to shut up and stop being dramatic. After those same people found out I had attempted to end my life, they gave me shit for not asking for help, having completely forgotten that they had previously shunned me for doing so.

Lyrad1002 · 2013-02-25T07:45:55+00:00

white males also disproportionately representing serial killers.

AloysiusC · 2013-02-24T20:19:50+00:00

To those who throw in that women attempt suicide more often than men. The disparity in success means that either women are feigning most of the time or they must be completely retarded. I have yet to hear a 3rd possible explanation for the statistics.

RPrevolution · 2013-02-24T23:34:05+00:00

I wonder whether it's because we expect so much more out of life

CloverFuchs · 2013-02-25T04:53:18+00:00

Sometimes you just can't afford the help. That just makes it all feel worse though...

saltytrey · 2013-02-25T05:04:57+00:00

Interesting that the rates are very low along the Texas-Mexico borderline.

PresidentCleveland · 2013-02-24T15:50:38+00:00

Well, as long as someone doesn't have some type of external force making them do it, there is nothing really wrong with someone taking their life. Its tragic if your life is just so shitty that you can't take it anymore. But people kill themselves for many different reasons, and their are good reasons. Maybe white males are just more effected by the absurdity of life. The burden of knowing how meaningless life is day after day drives people of all types to suicide. If people want to kill themselves, for the right reasons, then its fine and we should be comfortable with it.

2013-02-24T18:32:38+00:00

I thought you said white whales. I was confused.

kaosethema · 2013-02-24T22:39:40+00:00

sniff sniff

smelling that whitemensrights again.

TheZenji · 2013-02-24T16:58:26+00:00

Men and women actually attempt suicide at a similar rate, men just tend to use more effective means; guns and jumping as opposed to pills or wrist cutting. It is still an issue, but not in the way the title suggests.

NietzscheIsMyCopilot · 2013-02-24T15:55:02+00:00

As a white male, I feel so oppressed by society. No other gender or ethnicity has EVER experienced as much stigma and social rejection as I have.

Come the fuck on, this is just stupid.

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