what is this notion that the average man will kill a woman over a rejection?

BurnAfterEating420 · 2024-02-11T01:39:29+00:00

there's no shortage of news stories about women attacking men for rejecting them, smashing glasses in their face, pouring bleach on them while they sleep, stabbing, etc.

Ask a feminist about them, and "that's different"

WeEatBabies · 2024-02-11T02:13:27+00:00

And a woman will get rid of a man over rejection with the proxy violence of the State.

See the Lucy DeCoutere or Emma Sulkowicz cases.

The only difference, is when a man hurts a woman, he goes to jail ... when a woman hurts a man with the proxy violence of the State, she gets rewarded, on top of getting her revenge.

Sakoya-LT · 2024-02-11T01:06:54+00:00

If someone doesn’t handle rejection very well it’s a problem with them that needs sorting, has nothing to do with gender. It’s easier to just blame the average man for everything though isn’t it

denisc9918 · 2024-02-11T01:52:05+00:00

<shrug> projection

LouisdeRouvroy · 2024-02-11T02:55:10+00:00

It's inflated ego. Women like to think they're to die for.

And it's also typical of how women argue in bad faith. Rejection leading to murder is a trope since we hear and see it in movies as if it's like a 20% chance of happening and not 0.00001%.

Scarce12 · 2024-02-11T03:59:05+00:00

Everything is a gender war.

Until you ask them to stop making everything a gender war and the response you'll get is "Nobody is saying that only men do this", and similar double speak, and then they'll continue to make everything a gender issue and continue on their gender war.

It seems to be scripted, it's strange.

IlIIlIIIlIl · 2024-02-11T06:25:39+00:00

Classic female neuroticism, like their fear of walking alone despite men being far more likely to be violently victimized.

eye_of_gnon · 2024-02-11T11:19:09+00:00

The notion that women are constantly afraid of men killing them is just an exaggeration so feminists can play victim

NameIs-Already-Taken · 2024-02-11T08:53:44+00:00

Men can typically overpower their partners quite easily... but we are heavily conditioned to not do so. Women, on the other hand, can use their tongue to destroy men, and they don't seem conditioned to not do so, plus, if they attack, they do so when they are not facing a man on equal terms, whether it's when he's asleep or by attacking his property.

ButWhatOfGlen · 2024-02-11T03:37:37+00:00

TV dramas

J2501 · 2024-02-11T05:30:26+00:00

I must admit, in the distant past, the thought crossed my mind, not only because of the pain my obsession with some people caused me, but because of their continued, deliberate, interference in my life. The perception they were blocking me from any social progress, even with others. The feeling, caused by one or both of us, that it was them, or me.

After a certain point, I was no longer enamoured with them, and simply wanted them out of my way. I wanted my freedom from them, from any exploitative tyrant, regardless of gender. Am I supposed to tolerate exploitation or deliberate agitation, merely because it's coming from a female? That ain't gangsta. Thankfully, I've become more even-tempered, since back then. I try not to take things too personally, or assume it's all part of a conspiracy, even though, it often is.

I know some people who want a bunch of people out of their ways, not because those people rejected them, but because they reject those people... And those people's occupation of that land. Those people's consumption of those resources. More trash in their gene pool, through which they must sort, for value. Those are the people who run the world, and I am their victim, as much as anyone else.

I understand why people are driven to violence, and even though I admit to none, I fear continuing to endure the violence of others.

walterwallcarpet · 2024-02-11T07:38:07+00:00

It's the other way round. Women can't handle rejection, a well-known fact for over 300 years. The observation was attributed to William Congreve in 1697. 'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.'

To blame their own characteristics on men is typical feminist projection.

ElisaSKy · 2024-02-11T07:44:08+00:00

"in my experience women usually don't handle rejections well compared to men anyway, they assume you're gay and will usually ask why and sometimes press further."

You answered your own question with this sentence.

Psychological projection.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2024-02-11T08:44:11+00:00

Couple of days ago there was a post about a woman pouring bleach on a mans face and stabbing him and trying to stab him some more after he rejected her. Some people are obviously out of their mind regardless of sex. Trying to pretend this is a gendered issues is of course a feminist bullshit narrative of women are good and men are bad.

Prior_Tradition_3873 · 2024-02-11T16:43:59+00:00

Oh yeah, if you spend enough time on subs like /twoxchromosones they gonna make you believe that women are getting killed left and right over break ups and that it's as common as covid was.

HotwheelsJackOfficia · 2024-02-11T19:19:53+00:00

Apex Fallacy is everywhere. They're looking at the handful of news stories and projecting it on to every single man.

mrmensplights · 2024-02-11T20:17:37+00:00

It's just propaganda. It's one of their favorite tricks. Even though the number of men who would hurt a woman based on rejection is vanishingly tiny to the point of insignificance, they will take something like "of the % of people who hurt someone as a result of rejection broken down it by gender", see men have a higher %, and then use that to smear all men. The goal is create a general state of fear and distrust towards men while also creating a sense of insecurity and shame within men. They do this all day every day. Draw a line separating men and women in every possible statistic they can think of and then fitting oppression narratives to the numbers after the fact any time the numbers are lopsided in one direction or the other regardless of whether they are true or not.

I hope men come to realize that very sophisticated and purposefully directed psyops are being deployed against them for political and ideological purposes.

Fit_Welder_5841 · 2024-02-11T12:21:18+00:00

It's a man job to be the one to accept and deal with rejection. Women mostly give hints to guys they like so the man can be the one to make the move. No matter how harsh women can be with rejecting advances from men, I feel most women would be crushed if they got rejected by a regular guy, so they'd rather give hints instead. They're more open to shooting a shot at a celebrity or insanely successful person because in their mind that person has probably had hundreds of direct advances from women, so them being rejected won't take a big toll for them. When they ask these type of guys out its like they're playing the lottery. Being rejected by a regular guy would probably have them questioning their feminity and sexual appeal as a woman.

Plus-Pollution-5916 · 2024-02-11T10:28:46+00:00

Since men do generally approach women, how can they compare whoever, of the genders, take rejection so badly, that makes no sense.

Huffers1010 · 2024-02-11T12:04:28+00:00

To answer the question directly, I don't know, what is this notion that the average man will kill a woman over a rejection? I'd say it's clearly untrue - it's not common - and even the staunchest hardline feminist would probably accept that.

I recognise some of what you say as common in my experience, but that's just my experience (and yours) and I don't see why you think this belief is widely held.

hottake_toothache · 2024-02-11T20:42:25+00:00

Women today are constantly rehearsing in their heads a unending litany of reasons to hate men. This is just one of those.

The goal of this litany is to give women the upper hand in relation to men because it gives them excuses to not listen to men's point of view, or care about men's suffering.

Be careful out there, gents.

Dry_Dimension_4707 · 2024-02-11T07:46:38+00:00

OMG yeah, they’ll call you gay, tiny dick, an incel, all kinds of dumb shit. Men are sometimes guilty of saying dumb shit too, like saying f you, you’re ugly anyway or some such. But that’s far different than murder! That’s just some people of both sexes not handling rejection well.

This notion started to really be propagated after the book “The Handmaid’s Tale” was released in the late 70s. It has a line to the effect of “men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them” as it related to being rejected. If you’re not keeping up, that stupid ass book has become feminist canon and if you so much as tell an infinity scarf wearing hoe Starbucks is out of pumpkin spice latte, it’s all “omg, we’re literally living The Handmaid’s Tale!!”

Think about it, when was the last time you heard a story from someone you know or in the news that a man brutally beat or killed a woman because she rejected his advance?? Like hey baby want to go out sometime, she says no, and he morphs into Derek Vineyard from American History X and just curb stomps here right then and there?? Never? That’s what I thought. More likely it went hey baby want to go out sometime, she says no, he either slinks away embarrassed or says some dumb hurtful shit to humiliate her then walks away. Is that cool? No. But it’s significantly less than murder and it’s the exact same thing some women do as well.

she_gave_me_a_rose · 2024-02-11T13:25:06+00:00

There's been a lot of fuss in italy during the past month because of a man murdering his gf for a breakup

It's been the most feminist propaganda ever which accused all males of being responsible for that crime, we've had politics, journalists, sport people and even singers publicly shaming the male gender and calling us responsible for it

If you try to say you don't feel like you had any fault in it then you're just a mysoginst and member of the patriarchy (I'm not joking BTW)

The younger sister of the victim had a speech which was aired all over the national TV saying that the fault is not of the man who murderes, he was not a sick individual but a "sane member of patriarchy".

That all is to say that it's difficult to argue with people who have their mind already set and won't ever even consider a different opinion. People will take a breakup differently according to several different factors but, even if one time a man reacts in a way that doesn't mean a woman can't also do the same

Let's keep this in mind

Edit:to add some context, this man stabbed his ex gf around 20 times and threw her body in a river iirc. The most absurd thing is that to general opinion he is not mentally ill but just a "sane member of patriarchy"

_name_of_the_user_ · 2024-02-11T13:39:19+00:00

Men aren't seen as human. We've been dehumanized for so long that most people see men as some form wild animal who others are forced to live with. We could strike out at any moment and for the most unknown reason. When feminists say they like/respect men, they like/respect us in the same way I like/respect coyotes.

Past_Study_4913 · 2024-02-11T15:35:41+00:00

Oh yeah that's why men are allways expected to make first move, we all know why, because they can't handle the thought of being rejected. They handle it worse because they never have to handle it at all. So if this was true, they'd be getting murdered by the millions every fuckin day.

thatusenameistaken · 2024-02-11T08:17:48+00:00

fearmongering and an attempt to dodge accountability, nothing more and nothing less.

Scary-Error4119 · 2024-02-11T11:09:35+00:00

Is it true that women will get a man killed for whistling...?only a question...like emitt till in Mississippi?

itsakon · 2024-02-11T06:55:47+00:00

They will never stop damsel-ing.
There’s not even a real conversation to be had. These women are one of the safest group in human history, and it’s never going to be enough.

Crypt_Ghast · 2024-02-11T09:44:24+00:00

Just stupid as hell. When this would be true, I would be a damn serial killer but I can't even kill an insect or something. Never had a passion for violence. This is just RadFem bullshit, as always.

AMasculine · 2024-02-11T15:19:47+00:00

The overwhelming violence against women from men they are INTIMATE with. But they need to make excuses for picking these toxic men due to attraction. The average male does not commit crimes and do not hurt women. It's lack of accountability and deflection from their poor choices in men.

Cold_Environment669 · 2024-02-14T21:52:27+00:00

From my personal experience average woman handle rejection waaay worse than average man.

I was rejected by girl few times, and I just immediately left her alone without any scene.

But I had a experience where I didn’t wanted to talk to one girl and I ignored her. She started harassing me, humiliating me, stalking me…

So I would say, women handle rejection way worse than men.

ehWoc · 2024-02-11T12:50:10+00:00

I never said that the average man will do such thing, but a small percentage of men is able to hurt a woman physically upon rejection and we just don't want to risk it.

DougDante · 2024-02-11T11:53:12+00:00

It's not average. If a woman is rejecting a hundred or more men in person, then it's likely that one of them may be violent or dangerous.

For such a woman who is constantly fending off suitors, this is a reasonable concern.

Digger_is_taken · 2024-02-11T01:09:22+00:00

It's not that they think the average man is a violent qsychopah. It's that they know that some are, and they have no way of knowing if the particular person hitting on them is violent or not until after they reject him.

This can make getting hit on very scary for women, unless you do it in an appropriate way. Understanding this can help you to make it less scary for them, which will give you much better chances.

Scary-Error4119 · 2024-02-11T02:06:55+00:00

No indeed never....

Illustrious_Bus9486 · 2024-02-11T13:24:47+00:00

In 63 years, I've never heard of this notion.

Drayenn · 2024-02-11T16:18:01+00:00

Really feel women are groomed to fear men as much as possible. Its the same with women being scared of walking alone. Its not like those things dont happen but they are so rare.. odds are most killing/rapes happen within family and friends and not random people.

Zestyclose-Ad-3168 · 2024-02-12T15:45:49+00:00

Well if you’re comparing acid attacks, throwing drinks, stabbing, shooting, and raping to being called gay I do think one is much worse than the other.

I’ve seen many instances in bars where a man becomes belligerent, won’t take no for an answer, or just throws drinks on women. It’s not that uncommon. Now, murder is a much smaller group of men, however, women don’t know which man it is so why take the chance? I don’t think any of us would eat a handful of skittles if someone told us one of them may be poisonous. It’s just cost/ benefit analysis. Some people see the benefit at worth it and some would just rather not chance it which shouldn’t really be a problem, just move on to the next.

bluehorserunning · 2024-02-11T09:11:34+00:00

Most men would not actually hurt a woman. However, men who lose their ever loving shit and start making a scene and being utterly vile are quite common.

mismatched_dragonfly · 2024-02-11T04:29:48+00:00

There's two elements that I think are relevant here.

1) Aggressive responses to rejection are still bad, even if they don't escalate to murder. Men will yell, call the woman a b***h, and frequently act in a threatening manner when rejected. Not saying the majority of men do that, but it's common enough that most women experience that level of harassment many multiple times by the time they hit 25.

2) Some men do kill women. It's rare, but it's enough that they need to be concerned. And that fact makes the responses from (1) a ton scarier.

another-cosplaytriot · 2024-02-11T17:33:55+00:00

The notion that women can handle rejection AT ALL is complete delusional fiction. A constant string of unending pussy-passes have made women so spoiled and entitled that they have absolutely no idea what to do when somebody says no.

Hubris1998 · 2024-02-11T20:48:07+00:00

it's a load of bullshit, that's what it is

keepinitreal567 · 2024-02-12T01:33:41+00:00

I think the mainstream mindset is that people assume that a lot of men get really offended when women reject them or easily flake out but in reality, I handle things with a clear mind and understand that dating and relationships can be unpredictable. In other words, if you talk with a girl and the vibes are good, then the magic disappears, just move on. So most men are normal but there are few acceptions of the rule of men behaving clingy and desperate!

alter_furz · 2024-02-12T16:00:15+00:00

wow, so we have about below 0% of men who qualify as average, by that logic!

Due-Apple5859 · 2024-02-13T00:44:26+00:00

I think rejection is hard for everyone. What’s confusing to me is needing to justify that this won’t always reflect in violence. Statistically, a lot of it can do. But it isn’t something that is used to tarnish men. I think if it’s not something you’d consider then I can’t understand the defence

DrNicoleHolmes · 2024-02-13T11:13:21+00:00

The thing is ANYONE could be a psychopath that’s why everyone should be careful, but we only here stories about women getting in horrible situations, because women are weaker therefore more likely to get seriously hurt

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