Do Men Appreciate Physical Differences in Women More Than Vice Versa?

Devourer_of_felines · 2021-11-09T20:09:11+00:00

that way women would basically pick men on better characteristics other than height.

Money, facial structure and physique?

not_onmy_watch · 2021-11-09T19:35:31+00:00

BTS pop stars and Timothee Chalamet vs. Idris Elba and Henry Cavill, looks like a pretty wide range to me

Siukslinis_acc · 2021-11-09T21:37:18+00:00

As I understand men are more aroused by still pictures and women are more aroused by stories (like fanfiction). So women maybe need more stuff that can't be conveyed through a still picture. I remember I saw somewhere (can't remember where) porn where it was just the audio (without any video) of a man reading something (maybe erotica?) in a sexy voice. Gonna tell you, it was arousing (and I have no idea how the reader looked).

From what I see on the internet (which is my only source as I don't hear people talk/ask about their preferences IRL) most men want big breasted women. Look at all the animated/drawn porn most of them tend to have big breasts/ass (or look like they are barely legal).

If all men were the same it would also be boring for women. I have noticed that here when women describe a type of man that they find attractive that is not a "Chad", the men tend to accuse the women of lying or that it's because of the status/money of the man. Especially when they provide famous/public persons as an example of looks (it's easier to see how they look for yourself than them saying they like how the cashier in the nearby store looks (and you can't chek out how the cashier looks)).

I'd say my type would be: goofy, lighthearted, fun, sassy.

Visually would be something like this (taken out of my answer to a thread about fictional characters). The characters till Ishioda have at least one of the characteristics. Ishioda and after - just the looks.

Looks wise I think it would be at least a bit of facial roughness. Those smooth faces like the K-pop stars have feel a bit "uncanny valley" for me, or just signal to my brain that they are too young/children.

DeliciousPussyNectar · 2021-11-10T00:37:27+00:00

I like all kinds of women. Tall and leggy, short and tiny, skinny or thick (but not obese let’s not get crazy).

I like women more than I like just a type of women, even with preferences.

Doubt I’m the only guy like that.

snowcakey · 2021-11-09T19:16:59+00:00

Men have 15-30x more testosterone, which is one of the main chemicals responsible for sex drive. It’s no secret men are much hornier and more concerned with sex than women.

Plenty of guys are willing to date or fuck fat/ugly/average/boring/etc women. But is that their dream girl? Probs not.

If you asked men to describe their perfect woman physically, most men would describe her to be beautiful, young, not fat, nice ass, nice tits, cute pink pussy, etc etc.

Sure, SOME dudes are into fat chicks or pregnant women or whatever, but these are a minority of men. In general, I agree with your point that men are much more open to dating/fucking women who are not their ideal, in fact a lot of men will fuck women they’re not even all that attracted to. Sex is just THAT important to some men. Women are much more selective and less horny, hence why you see less women into men with unattractive or undesirable features.

HathSpoken · 2021-11-09T19:14:51+00:00

Absolutely. Here’s an example:

Olivia Wilde is 5’7” with a large, defined jawline and hunterish eyes and is considered very attractive. Scarlett Johansen is 5’3” with softer, more feminine features and also considered very attractive.

Now apply this to any two-given men. One is 6’0” with a defined jawline and hunter eyes. Another is 5’8” with soft features. These two men aren’t in the same league, hell they aren’t even playing the same game.

Bandit174 · 2021-11-09T19:02:15+00:00

Oh absolutely. Don't get me wrong, there is an ideal range for women on most traits too but that ideal range is wider and there are men who prefer outside that ideal range.

Like there are literally subreddits dedicated to fat women posting nudes. There are men who prefer, not settle for, not overlook, not tolerate PREFER fat women. There are also men who prefer petite, and fit and chubby ect. There are men who prefer big boobs, medium boobs small boobs ect. Dark pussies, light pussies, innies outies ect.

Whatever a woman has there is at least a decent sized minority of men that prefers it.

The same does not seem to be true in reverse. I never see women prefer short or even average height men the same way women prefer tall men. Same with dick size. And even with fitness, the range of body types that are considered hot for men is far narrower. It basically somewhere between a swimmers physique and football players physique but they rarely prefer anything outside of that.

The best men ouside of the ideal range on any trait get is to be settled for/tolerated or dated in spite of your traits but they are never preferred.

IOportA · 2021-11-09T19:33:11+00:00

Men could all be clones and women would still find something that only a small percentage of men have, and fixate on finding a man who has it.

And not because they are genuinely attracted to it, but because having a man with that trait elevates her social status.

It's not the features that men have that women find so attractive, it's the social status that comes with it.

Cobra_x30 · 2021-11-09T19:57:04+00:00

This is yet another one of these topics where culture plays a huge role. Any country that maintains a more traditional culture will also have women that are signifigantly less shallow.

Can't we just admit that the pampered and spoiled Western Style Princess types are shitbags and just move on? I mean cradle to the grave everything in our society is literally built to cater to them. They live the most low effort easy lives of any women on the planet. They hoard massive amounts of privileges while also trying to constant promote themselves as victims... typically from the dumb shit they do themselves.

Women in other countries just simply are not as shallow. Instead of using looks as the first bar you must hurdle to get a date with them... they set the bar very low sometimes removing it entirely. Because these ladies are not raised to think that sun rises and sets to their every whim and desire. I've dated all over the world and the US does have some very good women, but they are a tiny minority compared to the number of ones who are basically port-a-potties.

myopicdreams · 2021-11-10T10:24:04+00:00

I’m my experience, women who are looking for what so many of y’all call Chads are specifically uneducated, materialistic, low SES, and pop culture oriented. Super buff guys who spend hours at the gym are not at all interesting to most educated and high SES women because a) they tend to be boring as hell ( investing too much in being physically buff and nothing in their minds), b)most men who invest that kind of time on being buff are insecure which really sucks in a relationship, and c) high SES women don’t need a man who can do heavy labor or beat people up because neither of those things are relevant to their lives.

I have dated men from 5’4-6’8 because I really care about a man’s ability to keep my intellectual interest far more than my physical— and I’m far more turned on by smarts than muscle. I have rarely dated overweight men but would for the right mind and personality. I am more careful about dating short/overweight men because in my experience they have tended to be more insecure and more likely to try and be dominant over me, which is not a workable situation for me (I only want equality in relationships).

That said, IMO most of the men in this subreddit have unrealistic ideas about men, women, and relationships in general. They think that they are entitled to intimacy with women who are out of their league, and I truly don’t mean physically, and want incompatible features in a woman. You will be very unlikely to find a smart woman who is kind and principled who spend 3 hours a day on her appearance. People who are willing to invest that much time on their external self rarely have time to invest on internal betterment.

If you want a woman who isn’t focused on material issues like looks, status, and income you should be looking for potential partners in settings that attract women who care more about their inner self than their presentation.

If all you care about is how a woman looks and that is the basis of your relationship then yes you should expect that she may not be intellectually or morally well-developed since those aren’t the areas she invests in. This is simply how it works in life.

Aside from natural attributes, the things we excel at are usually things we invest time and effort into and tend to reflect our values and priorities in life.

Also, if you want to be successful in finding the partner you seek then you need to build yourself into the kind of partner your ideal mate is looking for. If you want an appearance focused, materialistic, pop culture junkie then you need to work out and be stylish, have a good income, nice car and know pop culture etc… if you want a smart, principled, kind, and thoughtful partner then you need to be smart, principled, kind, and thoughtful.

Last thing, just because you think you are nice doesn’t mean you really are. Many men I’ve known who call themselves nice guys are just not at all nice.

Flightlessbirbz · 2021-11-09T23:27:24+00:00

The only thing where men are less picky and more diverse in their taste is height. If you look at subs where men post pics of women they find attractive, they all look very much the same. White or white passing, early 20s-appearing, thin but not bony, small waist, breast implants, long hair, tan skin, Barbie face, the only thing that changes is the hair and eye color. No diversity in body type or facial features whatsoever. There are objectively handsome men, but women are less likely to agree on which men are attractive and will get obsessed with certain guys who aren’t conventionally handsome but fit their type. Women, but not men, appreciate unconventional looking actresses and models. Men always want Barbie girl.

Men are willing to have sex with more women, but that doesn’t mean they actually find all those women attractive. That’s what we as women sometimes have a hard time wrapping our minds around, but need to remember.

flapperfemmefatale · 2021-11-09T19:42:09+00:00

Appreciate? No. I just think men are so sex-obsessed that finding a woman ugly doesn't stop them.

anonymousUser1SHIFT · 2021-11-09T21:16:02+00:00

I would feel like if all men were the same looking, men would have more problems with getting girls. Women tend to be more selective and having assets that they find attractive is a way for them to stay around long enough to get to know your personality.

I will point out the study the (I think match did) that shows that women tend to rate guys to be less attractive (women rated 80% of guys to be below average attractiveness), where guys rated girls attractiveness linearly.

This might be why we see guys being more open about who they would date, and why so many guys have body issues. (Based on the study, if your not a 8+ your a 5). Thus their are a lot of really great guys out there who just never get their chase because they are not an 8 and don't have the social skills to make up for the initial lack of being attractive to women.

2021-11-09T22:11:23+00:00

Not "appreciate", will tolerate. Men are just hornier and therefore more willing to dumpster dive when they want to get off.

rivetcitymayor · 2021-11-10T00:18:29+00:00

As long you are 5’9, height really isn’t that important, I firmly believe this

heywoodsr · 2021-11-10T02:22:15+00:00

Yes I appreciate the vagina boobs and the different shape of the female butt

JacobMoogberg69 · 2021-11-10T05:48:08+00:00

So basically another self hate, I'm a loser post. And then they wonder why women don't want to be around them. When you are sending these vibes out, women pick them up and conclude if a guy hates himself then there is absolutely no reason for me to like him either.

Gigamon2014 · 2021-11-10T09:09:17+00:00

Men APPRECIATE the physical differences in women more. Women are OPEN to the physical differences in men more.

I think you're more likely to find a guy who goes specifically for fat/short/tall women. That's what's he is into/fetishises/appreciates. I feel women are more open to different looking men but often end up not appreciating those same attributes. A lot of women will forgo preferences for height/weight if the guy meets whatever emotional or behavioural requirements for the given moment but will end up resenting that same choice later down the line.

WheelIntelligent1354 · 2021-11-10T14:19:06+00:00

I think it's equal but women's diversities are age based. 18yo justin bieber wasn't attractive to 30yo women nearly as much as Idris Elba in his 40s. For men they generally all pick early 20s as the female prime so it evens out in total.

MBTHVSK · 2021-11-10T21:45:45+00:00

Women seem to be capable of appreciating a variety of male faces but have no real passion for more than one generic body type. Not that they can't be flexible, but I seriously doubt most women have fantasized about guys with highly divergent physiques. I'd saya bara/femboy art is as far as they'd go. Not that I can blame them, we don't even have major differences in ass shape or chest shape compared to ladies.

When you're 5'8'' and not fit and not overweight either, barely even having a "body type" to begin with, it's hard to even be mad.

TheBookOfSeil · 2021-11-09T20:42:01+00:00

Men are more able to appreciate differences in women, yes. Women have a narrower range of what they're able to appreciate on average.

Enchanting_Smith · 2021-11-09T19:24:40+00:00

Yes.

Derman0524 · 2021-11-09T23:38:20+00:00

Most women (on average) absolutely do not want a 6ft hunk with chiseled jaw line and kinda of fit/buff. You’re letting social media dictate your perception of the entire world and it’s horribly skewed. People like different things in people. Some like taller, others shorter, some like light or darker skinned, eye color, yada-yada…..

Hollywood people have the best plastic surgeons on the planet, barely any of it is real and tangible. You sound like you’re 18 years old dude lol. No adult would talk about a womens ‘perfect hip-to-waist ratio’ or ‘perfect Boone’. Cringe as hell

Orange_Paisley · 2021-11-09T19:17:04+00:00

I think plenty of women can have multiple types too. I like tall lanky guys, dark stocky guys, chubby guys a la Jack Black... my husband is a 5'8" athletic Mexican and my last long term relationship was a 5'7" skinny Filipino skater boi.

Boplic · 2021-11-09T19:52:23+00:00

Men and women are attracted in very different ways, and it’s shown in the constantly cited dating app data. Men, having a much larger libido and being able to feel greater attraction from looks, tend to put more women on the “more attractive” side. Women, with a lower libido and less look based attraction, tend to put more men on the “less attractive” side. As seen in real life though, they’re very willing to date men that they would’ve placed on the “less attractive” side. It’s because their attraction tends to come from words and behaviors rather than just looks.

Sorcha16 · 2021-11-09T20:15:06+00:00

Height has never been a factor in who I find attractive or date. I'm 5'1 so it probably factors in.

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BasicallyYogurt · 2021-11-09T21:48:46+00:00

Yes, men are turned on by a much wider range of physical characteristics then women. There was a pretty good OkCupid excitement in this.

You could also just go to a club. The guys girls are trying to hit up share all the same traits.

Wildhouse83 · 2021-11-09T22:30:55+00:00

Women in general have much higher standards for men than the other way round. Physical appearance is just one example.

Artistic_Guest4386 · 2021-11-10T00:06:33+00:00

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nodegreenoknowledge · 2021-11-10T00:50:31+00:00

I think both have attraction towards physical features but I can say men are more loose with looks than women. Women seem to always want a 7/10. But men will dip down to a 4/10 for a late night.

It think it’s basically almost equal. But

Sen_ri · 2021-11-10T01:32:56+00:00

Well I prefer short men and never like chiseled features. I prefer a beautiful looking guy to the handsome guys.

The desirability of women dating online peaks at 18 and for men it peaks at 50. So men of the widest age range are messaging the 18 year olds.

I don’t see how a bunch of women having a fixation on tall men is any different from a bunch of men having a fixation on young women. In reality people don’t date based on singular traits of a spouse.

Actually what do you have to say about the guys saying women hit the wall at 25? Aren’t they fixating on a narrow range of women?

NoMarriageNoKids · 2021-11-09T19:24:44+00:00

I'm tall so the variation works well in my favor.

Fusiontron · 2021-11-10T12:44:53+00:00

I'm pretty sure this is an established fact, women find a smaller range of men attractive than men do of women.

For me, I'm appreciative of differences in face/height/race/etc. but she's gotta be fit. See the music video for Macarena to understand what I mean.

Title	Do Men Appreciate Physical Differences in Women More Than Vice Versa?
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