Before you read I’m a 20 year old 6’2 male, decent physique and social circle and have gotten from 6.5-7 on TRM , so i am not a bitter 5’7 neck beard loser. You can dm me to confirm that (further proof average men are almost doomed, jk) After reading through this sub since joining Reddit, noticed it was hard to relate to a lot of opinions and complaints ,and I quickly discovered why.
Although there are a few zoomers and millennials in here, many of the things the women give advice about do not apply to dating dynamics in gen z and many of the men here seem either above 30 or just complete introverts. I will attempt to point out dating differences in Gen z or millennials that you may not recognize or experience as part of the more mature population. Note that these are my opinions and experiences

  1. Options - many of you think social media does not play a huge role and we should “just go outside” and socialize, but you have to understand that women are spending more and more time on social media these days. I went though my female friends instagram (with consent) and she had several dms from guys and dms in requests and some of these men were very attractive to even include D1 athletes. My friend would be rated a 4.8 on TRM (she knows she’s not the most attractive). Even if average young women don’t download tinder, they can still be flooded with insane options, and the idea that many of these women don’t have couple high hundred or over a thousands followers is asinine. I myself am a slightly above average guy but have almost a 1000 legitimate followers. FYI many zoomers meet or date off IG.

  2. Beauty standards- Believe me when I tell you that even if you are 6’2 (which I am , humble flex ik )as a zoomer, that alone will not give you the expected boost you think it will. Contrary to popular belief, if you do not have a certain look, (tiktok e boy look) ,Eurocentric classicaly handsome, bad boy ,or pretty boy with some masculine features, you may also struggle. Now don’t get me wrong you can still get a relationship Average or above average looking, but these women are bombarded with options and tiktok handsome men and from my conversations with Gen z girls, the average or above average men is UGLY to them. Do with this as you will, and I know black pill is hated around these parts but sometimes I can relate with what they say. Factor in that a lot of zoomers today are taller and live in the gym because of tiktok. The beauty standards of Gen z are brutal but I will not get into that today

  3. “If he wanted to he would” rhetoric - As a result of the women being on social media a lot, they are bombarded with perfect social media relationships and impossible ideals for a 18-23 regular man to uphold and so therefore even if you are a good partner you will be seen as underwhelming and doing the bare minimum to Gen Z women. They also compare their relationships to their friends and favorite rapper or YouTuber. I fear this mindset might even go on with them into marriage.

  4. Pronounced status search- I am currently in college and I see that zoomer women are very status oriented, they look at your social standing A LOT, if you’re an athlete or in a frat or have a good following on any social media you’ll probably get a lot of girls and it is because of the values of our generation and things like that. The reverse is the case too, many simply will not give you as many opportunities to court them if you have no social backing or social currency in some form

  5. Nerdy/UwU/gamer girl is obsolete- This idea makes me laugh because these nerdy women of today also get tons of male attention now and fit a certain niche a lot of men love and so therefore they get status and heaps of male attention sometimes which could give them status and ego. The male nerds of today are more down bad but the females have enough to pick from.

  6. The feminization and leftist ideologies pushed on men - Due to feminism and SJW dominating our education system, men today are Simps ( didn’t what to use this word but couldn’t find a more suitable one) , they worship women , buy only fans and flood them with lots of love and attention, which isn’t necessarily bad but just boosts the ego of said women. They also have no back bone and I fall victim to this myself sometimes. There is also a push for zoomer women to hate men, see them as the enemy and be freed of the shackles of “evil men” (I’m just tryna get laid not dominate you)

TLDR : dating is getting worse and worse, and zoomer men will need to jump more and more hoops to Compete

My advice for y’all men who struggle and are between 18 and 23: get surgery for the awfully ugly lot of you (controversial I know) organically grow you IG like i did, workout not to be a stocky roid head but to get a lean v taper physique, learn charisma and charm, if in uni join a frat , take care of fashion, hair, skin and get whiter teeth. P.S - TRP, Fresh and fit and others helped me get any little success I have with women today.

P.S love you all. Sorry if I made errors