You need to be doing a combat sport

Frozen_Tundra · 2014-08-29T18:58:57+00:00

I am a 2nd Dan in Judo, 1st Dan in sport jujitsu and taken 4 years of boxing and a couple of years of bjj. I will speak to this from the judo perspective as that is what I have the most training in.

Let me first say I think it is awesome that you all are or want to be involved in combat sports however there are some things new people should be aware of when choosing your martial art. You must do your research.

1) Be aware of McDojo's. These are scam martial arts "dojos" where someone has taken a few classes and created a new martial art or claimed to have been trained by some unknown or even created an association and promoted themselves to "grandmaster" LOL.

2) Look for a martial art that is not just kata based. Choose one where you actually get to go close to full out on each other. Sure in say Karate you can't go around and kicking each other full force in the head because that is just stupid, but at a minimum you do at least need sparring. One of the beauties of Judo is during randori or tournaments, you get practical experience using what you have been taught.

3) Understand that each martial art has its limitations. Judo for instance does not teach strikes. They used to have them in them but were removed. Once you get to black belt there are a few striking katas but that is it. Many clubs also do not teach the self defence behind the throws but if you have half a brain and watch the Nage No Katas you will see it. Also notice that in the video it is all grips on the gi. Originally these grips were under the chin and so on, once training you will see how they can be applied but it isn't recommended to train that way because it is pretty dangerous to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOcVfmmMBLY

4) Understand that though each martial art has its limitations, it does not mean it is bad. There is no perfect martial art. Each just specializes in certain things.

5) If you decide to take multiple martial arts, it does not mean they will work together. For instance Judo is a circular art, where as say certain kung fu styles are straight line. Judo's right hand fighting stance is a left handed boxing stance. If you spend enough time in Judo you will learn both left and right handed fighting and even neutral grips that will allow you to go either way.

6) Doing weightlifting certainly isn't a bad thing when taking martial arts. But doing bulking/bodybuilding I have found limits ones flexibility, stamina and so on.

So how do you avoid the scams? If Judo, all you have to do is see if they belong to your nation's official association. Some clubs are better than others, but at least the sensei has passed the basic standards. If a different one, the sensei/instructor should have no problem telling you who trained them. Research them on the net.

One of the best pieces of advice I got when taking boxing... when you walk in smell the gym. If it smells of sweat and hard work you have found the right place, just research the instructor. If it smells of perfume to make it smell nice for women, go somewhere else....unless you want a place full of women then by all means.

Mightyskunk · 2014-08-29T16:22:45+00:00

Just don't walk around in Ed Hardy or some Tapout(or variant) shirt. Makes a man look like those pitbulls with faces full of quills from a porcupine.

Live it, but don't be it.

Chicago1871 · 2014-08-29T18:31:29+00:00

I've really been considering doing this but I have a couple of concerns. What if I value not getting seriously injured/taking repetitive hits to the dome?

I lift weights regularly to stay in top form and as a precautionary measure, just in case I have to defend myself. And the risks with weightlifting are minimal once you develop good routines.

But I mean as an entrepreneur I value my brainpower. I'm not sure if combat sports really fit the lifestyle. Thoughts?

Blacquebit · 2014-08-29T16:02:55+00:00

Cant up vote this enough. I've been training Bujinkan for several years, now training Doce Pares. Also in the gym 3 times a week. I'm in the best shape of my life, and I turn 45 in October.

Disaster532385 · 2014-08-29T17:57:20+00:00

where do you people find all the time to do all these activities?

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forbinsdecline · 2014-08-29T22:51:48+00:00

Good points, but keep the repetitive low-level head trauma to a minimum.

rogicar · 2014-08-29T19:36:09+00:00

As a person that's been in the boxing culture for a long time let me give a small reallity check. I wouldn't say this post is wrong but it is a little misleading.

I'm in gradschool at the time so I'm not in the shape I was when I had more time and when I was at competition level but let me tell you, if I were to show you a before and after picture from then and now, most of you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, though i was in great shape back then and now i could barely run a mile without hard panting and sweating my balls off. The typical boxer's body is not what you'll see in men's fitness magazine. Therefore don't expect to be getting any physical attraction boost from it if you're an ectomorph like myself.

If you're a fatty or more on the mesomorph side then by all means boxing is the type of workout you really need. I've seen a lot of dudes that are borderline fat that end up looking obese because they're so obsessed with muscle gain that they ignore any sort of fat loss. They have a whole lot of muscle build up but it's under a layer of fat that to the typical person, they just look fat.

The confidence boost everyone claims you get from this is real but very confined and limited. Being bullied in my younger years I now get off on knowing my skinny ass could put down the typical 200lb man if he gets out of line. This confidence is really awesome for my personal reasons but to my experience it only has worked in male to male interaction and it does nothing along the lines with attracting women per se. The typical boxers personality will completely be shut out game wise by the first flamboyant dude coming by.

To further illustrate, the typical boxer, would probably be interpreted as a Beta by most people from their apperace. A great example, would be these two fuckers. The one on right, Pacquiao, no need for introductions is an all time great and the one on the left, Morales, has been involved in some of the most jaw dropping blood curdlling matches I could remember seeing as a kid. If you were to see them on the street, most would completely dismiss them as beta. If women didn't know about their stature and accomplishments they would completely dismiss them as beta as well from the personalities they exude. I would think it's that they subconsciously are very satisfied with their masculinity that they rarely get the urge to peacock with shit like tatoos, intimidating haircuts, masculanizing accesories, loud mouthing ect. I don't know, your explanation is just as good as mine on that last part.

The last part I want to warn about is signing up to a boxing gym. A part of the reason I've pretty much almost completely left boxing is that boxing gyms have terrible hours. They're typically open 4-6 hours a day on the weekdays and weekends they are open for like 2 hours if you're lucky. They're definitely no 24 Hour Fitness. My local gym here is open exactly when I have class and closed on the weekends. Check to see if the gym hours are fit for your availability. If not, it's an extra big stress in your schedule that will likely end in money down the drain.

redpillbanana · 2014-08-29T19:11:19+00:00

For a great intro read to BJJ, check out this article by the great Sam Harris: http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-pleasures-of-drowning

The last two paragraphs are great for a tl;dr:

From a self-defense perspective, practicing BJJ exclusively can introduce one dangerous habit: Because BJJ is geared toward fighting on the ground, and is so decisive there, you can easily acquire a bias toward going to the ground on principle. When rolling on the mat, perfecting arm locks and chokes, it is easy to forget that in a real fight, your opponent is very likely to be punching you, or armed with a weapon, or in the company of friends who might be eager to kick you in the head (facts that are given cursory treatment in most BJJ training). To spend years perfecting the art of ground fighting is to risk forgetting that if a fight starts, the last place you want to be is on the ground.[2]

To study BJJ for self-defense, therefore, is to prepare for the worst-case scenario—but the worst case remains a high probability in any sudden encounter with violence. If you are ever attacked by a bigger, stronger person, there is a very good chance you will find yourself on the ground, wrestling in some form. The difference between knowing what to do in this situation and merely relying on your primate intuitions is as impressive a gap between knowledge and ignorance as I have ever come across.

fuckingkike · 2014-08-30T00:48:57+00:00

Do you not live somewhere you can carry a pistol?

prodigyx · 2014-08-29T17:01:36+00:00

I agree with the concept, but combat sports just aren't fun for me. Not that it isn't a great skill to have, but a contact sport is just much more fun. Many of the same benefits and I enjoy it 100% of the time I am doing it.

a_chill_bro · 2014-08-29T21:18:08+00:00

I consider bodybuilding akin to male beauty pageantry

I don't agree with the beauty pageant take. Bodybuilding is about constantly pushing your body to the next level and becoming stronger. It's an art, a science and a philosophy all rolled up in one.

It by no means should be your only form of training though. That I can get on board with.

MrMagwitch · 2014-08-29T22:59:04+00:00

kneeonbelly · 2014-08-29T18:53:10+00:00

Having trained BJJ for several years before ever starting lifting, I agree with you on the confidence and self-assurance that you can win a fight. But you are reducing weight lifting to bodybuilding "male pageantry" when that is just one facet of the lifting world. Powerlifting, olympic lifting and strength training have enormous carryovers to physical prowess beyond aesthetics. If you are stronger and more explosive than someone your same height and weight without martial arts training, you are almost guaranteed to beat them in a fight. Martial arts ability oftentimes trumps size and strength, but all other things being equal...the bigger, stronger person will win.

DoctorWelch · 2014-08-30T00:25:15+00:00

My only problem with things like this is I have a history of concussions from sports. What do you guys think would be the best martial art to take up considering that.

nguyenwhatarmy · 2014-08-29T17:57:08+00:00

I've been involved with Muay Thai for almost 9 months. As a place where a bunch of guys can get together, have a laugh, motivate eachother, beat the shit out of eachother, and then grab a beer afterwards, the masculinity that such gyms promote is invaluable to us as RPers.

Combat sports and lifting don't have to be at odds, they can complement eachother. I used to loathe going to the gym. Now I'm much more motivated to finish my set cause, in my mind, my opponent is smashing out his sets.

The fitness and fighting ability is only a part of what learning a combat sport can do. Combat sports instill confidence, respect, and mental grit that can be found no where else, and will also help you make new friendships. Bitches wet themselves after they see you fight as well.

However, finding the right gym and teacher is also something that should be paid extra caution. McDojos will never give you the same benefits as a good gym and fighting community will.

"You train to look good. I train to kick your ass."

Frozen_Tundra · 2014-08-29T21:00:12+00:00

i don't see the point of this. if you enjoy it or have a legitimate talent for it, like you are going to do it professionally, fair enough, but it's not really a useful skill in everyday life.

you think chuck lidell is going to step on your foot on the bus and you're going to have to throw down?

tell you the truth, i find a lot of these MMA guys queer as fuck. like they need an excuse to roll around with other men while acting all macho. you can be a badass who is into this combat stuff but it doesn't make you a badass. i'd say the majority of people who are into it are just posers who are trying to overcompensate for something. boxing is cooler than mma or ninja shit though at least.

McRedMan · 2014-08-29T18:46:26+00:00

what is this shit about: a) you gotta be able to win a fight! b) my fighting style is better than yours!

just do a sport you enjoy that makes you fit and look good (being good at martial arts & bodybuilding both accomplish this), if you get into fights regularly you should fix your brain rather than your fighting ability.

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Chirp_Downvote_Celly · 2014-08-29T22:44:42+00:00

Think I'll stick to lifting and owning a gun. Thanks though.

Barles_Chukowski · 2014-08-29T23:37:32+00:00

Don't try to pick up women at a combat gym. You'll fail, first of all, because you suck and everybody knows it and that's not alpha. Second, most of the girls you find there aren't there to meet men. That's what regular gyms are for. They're there to learn to fight, or to learn to defend themselves. They're hyper-aware that they're in a men's lair. They're martial artists. They don't want to create any drama at their home gym by dating a fellow student, and neither should you. Third, you think the other men aren't gonna be watching you make an ass of yourself trying to chat up the cardio kickboxers? We do notice, and we notice how uncomfortable it makes them feel, and we remember it later when it's time to spar and roll.

Walk into the lion's den, learn to kill lions, then return to the sheep. Don't think you're gonna impress the lionesses your second week in. You're only gonna make the lions mad.

thrway79 · 2014-08-29T16:29:48+00:00

All good points. I'm doing competitive Muay Thai and have been training for the last six months. One thing to note however is that there is a trade off when you compare weight lifting to combat sports. Weight lifters can increase their muscle mass with no bearing on their functional performance. What I'm getting at is that typically weightlifting physique trends to have higher SMV. In combat sports carrying all that muscle can inhibit performance. I found that out when I couldn't v guard on day one and was wide open to get KNFOd due to poor flexibility and the size of my shoulder muscles. So.. depending on keep that in mind in your strategy to attract. I do get more swoons in discussing the fact that I have competed in tournaments too. Combat sports do usually have better stories and improve your mental toughness.

Subcommandante_Khan · 2014-08-29T16:13:27+00:00

Good point. I'm gonna have to get on it.

RedPill4LYF · 2014-08-29T20:32:38+00:00

I've been considering taking a martial arts class next time I go on a nofap stint. I'm gonna need the extra focus.

General_Fear · 2014-08-29T20:49:17+00:00

General question to you all.

How can you combine lifting and combat sports? My understanding is that you need to rest in order to get the most out of lifting. But if you add aerobic exercise like boxing, won't is reduce muscle growth?

_DiscoNinja_ · 2014-08-29T21:14:17+00:00

I started taking Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu a year ago after I discovered TRP and decided to make physical fitness a priority.

A year later, I've lost 70lbs, I'm in the best shape I've ever been in as an adult, and when new guys come in to class that have never trained before it is very easily apparent that I would have an advantage if I were ever in a real fight against an untrained dude.

CaniborrowafeeIing · 2014-08-29T22:26:01+00:00

Ive done Japanese Jiu Jitsu and Krav Maga.

I think in essence the point that OP is trying to get across is that the ability to defend yourself in case a fight is unavoidable its a big boost to know you have that ability.

Lifting is still a great thing to so though as building up muscle is good in practically any situation.

Do what makes you feel confident.

Idle_Redditing · 2014-08-29T23:37:40+00:00

I did mma. It didn't help me at all with being alpha in my interactions with other people. Adopting the trp mindset and learning about what people are really like has helped.

I also got 2 big concussions who's aftereffects won't go away after almost 2 years. I'm not going to wind up with scrambled brains like an old boxer. Come to think of it I should just get a good gun and renew my Concealed-Carry license.

Narbiscus · 2014-08-30T03:18:46+00:00

Can you give a short list of some combat sports to add to what you already mentioned? I'm 17, and I'd like to be able to research and find what I like. I don't know of many.

bbidabbong · 2014-08-30T17:11:43+00:00

That is why I train martial arts for life. I was, and still am, self defense instructor and I used to work with police and army. Combine that with the fact that now I can deadlift almost 3 times my bodyweight, and bench press 2 times my bw..yeah bro I am fucked up. :D

1) True story. Endurance will be enhanced.

2) Definitely, a lot of muscular, tattooed guys around, but puppy eyes look. Submissive body language. Even they can add up black SUV or something. Still, beta. If you are not alpha for real..you can not fake it.

3) About kilograms, it all depends. And in world of street fighting, nothing guarantees nothing. Usually, the more aggressive guy wins. Regardless of anything else.

4) :)

5) Also yes. What you did yesterday? Self defense and boxing lessons.

garlicextract · 2014-08-29T17:36:58+00:00

4) Boxing fitness classes are full (I'm talking 90%+) of in shape young women, even if you don't want to compete or learn the sport go to those.

Pardon me but I find it really, really difficult to believe boxing classes are >90% hot in shape young women and <10% dudes looking to box.

trpcounselor · 2014-08-29T21:38:16+00:00

I kinda agree but disagree. I've done boxing but have weight lifted for considerably longer. I no longer box. However, if I were going to choose between one or the other weight lifting has gotten me to a pretty big size and strength and that's what i would choose. Not to be that guy but id choose my pure size and strength over your average boxer or martial artist. (6'1, 215, 9% body fat). Wasn't it Roy Gracie who went against a bodybuilder and was getting rekt and woulda got rekt if it wasn't for the match not allowing for punches and only way to win was opponent tapping out? And that's motherfucking Roy Gracie....

bhormaci · 2014-08-29T17:32:37+00:00

Competitive shooting is much more empowering...you can actually be confident in your ability to defend yourself and anyone around you from harm. Fighting is good to get in shape, as you mentioned, but I would caution against thinking it is practical for self-protection...if you can solve a situation with fists, you should have just walked (or run) away from it.

BeatArmy99 · 2014-08-29T18:36:23+00:00

Balderdash. I could just as easily say that you need to be playing a team sport. You'll learn far more valuable life skills than you will fighting with your hands.

Anonymouse12345 · 2014-08-29T17:50:34+00:00

Visited my Chiro yesterday about my lower back pain. I'm a young adult male (young 20s), I commute daily to my school, work out 3 times a week, spend a lot of time walking but above all I spend even more time sitting (classes, studying, subway, etc). Turns out all my issues are due to lack of movement. I consider myself well above average in terms of "fitness" but I still don't pump my heart actively for 2-3 hours a week. Weightlifting doesn't do that, walking 100 miles a week doesn't do that. You have to find a sport that you enjoy that will have your heart pumping 2-3 hours a week.

In case you're wondering how is this related and why weightlifting isn't the answer - it's all about bloodflow. When heart pumps hard it shoves bloodflow into areas of your body that don't regularly get blood (and oxygen, nutrients with it) when an area of your body doesn't get bloodflow after a long period of time it gets stiff, muscles get tight and nerves get very sensitive. Stiff neck? This is why. Lower back pain? This is related. Tight hamstrings? This will help immensely. Low flexibility? Start moving

superyay · 2014-08-29T16:50:42+00:00

There are weight lifters that roll into my gym all the time. Fairly large dudes who think they have what it takes to grapple.

All these guys that roll in are larger than I am, but they can't go 2 minutes without tapping due to not being able to breathe. Not surprising when they don't show up again.

Drogoe · 2014-08-30T03:57:27+00:00

I spend so much time dating and banging chicks that I just about have time for my career. Throwing a combat sport into the mix would mean I'd have to sacrifice my chick slaying. I wish I had more time, in the day and in my life.

merkmerk73 · 2014-08-29T17:36:35+00:00

There's some seriously good advice in here.

Furthermore it's considered one of those 'active' hobbies that hot women say they always want in a man.

beginner_ · 2014-08-29T19:41:31+00:00

Probably good advice. I've often heard boxing training it the most hardest there is. I actually thought about it to too just to drop my fear. Never been hit or have hit someone. This would be the ultimate shock therapy for me.

phe_nom · 2014-08-29T19:50:55+00:00

Agreed. I do bjj, used to do judo as well. From a practical standpoint these are two of the best martial arts since 90% of street fights end up on the ground. I am going to add a striking martial art like Muay Thai though just to be a more complete fighter.

BitingInsects · 2014-08-29T19:57:06+00:00

Aside from the physical benefits of combat sports, I think they have a strong psychological impact as well. I notice fighters and most athletes at that have a sort of confidence about them in any surrounding. I have a shy cousin who became an amateur boxer after a bad breakup - it completely changed him for the better. He's more comfortable in his skin, more aggressive and assertive.

It's not like a "I can beat up most of the guys in this room" sort of thing. I feel like it's more of a "I can take care of myself, I've been tested and protecting myself is one less thing I have to worry about right now."

GotRobod · 2014-08-29T20:08:54+00:00

I've already been hitting the gym every other day, I want to increase to daily and focus on every muscle group now. Combat sports are at most 3 to 4 times a week;

What is the best I can do as far as practicality?

grogz · 2014-08-29T21:51:41+00:00

I thought about doing that, but is it really worth it if you're not sparring? I don't want to soind arrogant, but I'd like to keep a straight nose in my face.

sirmadam · 2014-08-29T22:07:08+00:00

I train muay thai…the who I train under is a tiny bloke but actually has the ability to kick the shit out of anyone you put in front of him…not like other McMMA gyms that some shyte has spent a day training how to give the class. You may never need to use the skills you acquire because you only need to know you could rip someones head off to know how to talk them down so you don't have to.

xwm · 2014-08-29T22:15:02+00:00

How does one go about locating a gym like this? I have been considering bjj and kickboxing/muay thai, and am probably going to start next month (due to financial constraints, but that is for another time), but it is hard to tell which gyms are any good/have trainers who know what the hell they're teaching. Tips?

[deleted] · 2014-08-29T22:22:03+00:00

This is good advice. I'm 195 pounds at 5'9 with 12 percent body fat and I still kinda feel like a pussy. Will be adding some kind of combat sport in the future when money isn't tight

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Juracule · 2014-08-29T23:41:16+00:00

I would be doing BJJ but I'm gonna have a p busy uni year coming up alongside with lots of cycling and lots of lifting meaning I would have too much on my plate, I feel.

Otherwise I would be doing it.

I did thai boxing and boxing when I was like 15-16 for 1.5-2 years or so. Was cool but boxing isnt big at all in holland and most boxing gyms are mediocre. Suffered 2 concussions from it and had headaches often. I have only put it into practice once to completely destroy a guy after years of bullying. Fixed everything for me and for that I'm grateful.

kanaduhisfruityeh · 2014-08-30T01:07:09+00:00

Guys with MMA training are pretty good in street fights. You just have to look at the "exploits" of some of the MMA fighters in the street. Guys like War Machine and Roger Huerta.

I saw another amateur MMA fighter on one of those Jail reality programs who fought off a bunch of gang members who jumped him. He was able to fend all of them off, although I think he may have broken his hand in the process. Some people have talked about carrying guns but you can't get a pistol in jail.

moonsuga · 2014-08-30T01:39:23+00:00

does getting into a police academy count? ;)

[deleted] · 2014-08-30T02:46:59+00:00

I do Kali so you you have stick, kife and dagger solo and double, s short word/double short sword, sword/dagger then long sword. Filipino boxing, Filipino kick boxing and wrestling along with their CQC system. It's really fun and I love doing it.

johnyann · 2014-08-30T02:52:07+00:00

You forgot the part where it is fun as fuck to beat the shit out of a heavy bag for a half hour.

Stopher · 2014-08-30T03:07:09+00:00

Does it have to be combat? I fucking love sports but I don't think it's a good idea to get hit in the head. Best workouts I ever have though are competitive type pick up sports. Tennis, hockey, basketball, soccer. I'm seeing stars from getting winded. I really push my self. I just don't want to get hit in the head.

PimpDawg · 2014-08-30T03:08:12+00:00

I've done judo, bjj, and kickboxing. BJJ is serious fun, boxing gave me headaches, but judo is my go-to for self-defense. I last used it in a bar scenario when a guy was messing with my date. I put my left arm over his right bicep and asked him to give us some space (he was pushing people).

Here's how it went down: him - "You got a problem?", while spreading his arms out me - chin down, hands up, circle him - big swing me - duck under, ko-soto gake, full mount, arm triangle

I used to train with one of the bouncers, so no legal trouble was had.

All of it started with a throw. But yes, I put my guard up, an circled away from his power hand. Miscalculated actually - he was left handed. Didn't matter. Did the boxing help? yes. Did the bjj help? certainly. But judo is my go-to.

bigb3nny · 2014-08-30T03:10:45+00:00

What about when your older and dont want to let some retard van damn wannabe going "50%" sparring. I get injured enough playing sports.

jjshinobi · 2014-08-30T03:28:21+00:00

I now target all muscles in the boxing gym except legs. We do 5 laps around the plaza, 5 rounds of shadow boxing, 5 rounds of the sack, then we go to the ring and practice our combos. After that, ab workouts, the machine (that targets triceps, chest, shoulders and arms), and then we get into bars for 1 last minute of what we have left. It's only 1.5-2 hours / weekday. Definitely get into boxing.

skyw4lk3r · 2014-08-30T03:38:02+00:00

If you want to be strong and healthy, I would highly recommend that you consider Hsing-I or bagua or one of those internal martial arts. These arts can also promote health and longevity, while teaching you how to fight.

Also another thug to really understand is that the martial art is only used to develop yourself. Actual fighting is only based on efficiency of the moves. And doesn't really need to e the same moves you used for development. This is where the internal arts are superior. So if you are looking for something that is going to make you stronger and healthier even when you are 50 years old, then do give them due consideration.

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breakingmad1 · 2014-08-30T11:12:04+00:00

Actually unless you are a pro athlete avoid any kind of contact sparring. More and more research shows sparring is dangerous long term, its constant low impact blows to the head, these all add up. Robbie Lawler a pro mma fighter doesn't even spa between fights any more, and more and more athletes are waking up in regards to sparring. It's really.not.worth the health problems you'll get at 50 just for the sake of being alpha

Geocan001 · 2014-08-30T11:22:46+00:00

So much of this right now. The only reason I quit doing combat sports was because my favourite trainer left the gym where I trained. I'm doing a strength regime currently (rather than bulking) because I found out he's opening his own gym.

As soon as my contract is up and his gym is open, I'll be back into Muay Thai and shoot fighting. I had gains up to 115kg at the gym, and it made me feel sluggish, bulky and just fucking HUNGRY all the time. Being big is expensive. As where when I trained under my fight instructor, I got down to 90.5kg and found my appetite to be more appropriate. I still drill on my off days and have plenty of equipment.

Still, my next endeavour might be to get a Rampage Jackson build. Something a bit heavier, but still fight worthy.

NutmegPluto · 2014-08-30T12:40:12+00:00

Bodybuilding is stupid, if you want to talk about practicality I don't know why you wouldn't do powerlifting instead

jabbajac · 2014-08-30T14:34:04+00:00

What's your opinion on parkour? I know it's not a combat sport but it's got plenty in terms of overcoming fear and functional strength.

Rogerdodger1985 · 2014-08-30T21:19:51+00:00

Spend time sparring.

Learning the stuff and drilling it is important but you'll remember maybe 10% of what you've learned in live sparring.

Plus there is no bigger ego killer than getting punched in the face. Sometimes you need it tbh.

mag_gent · 2014-09-02T16:56:57+00:00

I definitely agree with this. I recently joined a boxing gym and it's been a great experience so far. Before boxing I would just concentrate on lifting. But now I realize it feels much better to develop your body for function rather than just looks. I don't even think it necessarily has to be a combat sport just some kind of sport that you genuinely enjoy. The important thing is to train for function rather than appearance. In way you feel more like a man even if you're not becoming biggest dude at the party.

Heizenbrg · 2014-08-29T21:56:08+00:00

PENCAK SILAT

karmacrunch · 2014-08-29T23:05:48+00:00

This post inspired me to join a MMA club,thanks

[deleted] · 2014-08-30T03:26:35+00:00

Yep, just started Tai Chi and Fencing. Love them both so far. Between those two, working out every day, hiking & swimming, I feel fucking amazing all the time.

Priivet · 2014-08-29T20:40:40+00:00

I have considered this to replace some gym time. My problem is the weird attitude some of these martial arts classes sometimes have. I'm not interested in their rituals and affirmation bullshit. I wonder if the one JJ place I tried out was just an anomaly.

vengefully_yours · 2014-08-30T15:45:31+00:00

I wrestled in high school, qualified for state, had a positive win-loss ratio, pinned most of my opponents, knocked one out, broke three ribs on one kid, and broke a teammates arm in a wrestle off for varsity. Later I wrestled in the military at the base level and did well in freestyle and very well in Greco Roman while stationed in Europe.

I grew up in a nightmare of a family, constant beatings and abuse. Wrestling was my means of stopping it. However, the random and incredibly violent attacks did a few things that I turned into positives. I can read people extremely well and accurately gauge their intent. I have no fear of getting my ass kicked because its happened so often. I've seen it all before and adapted wrestling to defense and a very efficient, quick, and potentially violent offense where I don't need to hit anyone. You want confidence? Try knowing through experience that 99% of men out there can't hang with you, having enough muscle mass to bench over 450, and still being able to finish a fight in seconds at 45 years good. Sounds like bragging, doesn't it? That's not my intent, its more to show what can be done to turn negatives into positives, and give you confidence that you earned the hard way.

Two wars, military training, combat exp, and a shitty life where people tried to use, abuse, and take from me constantly also played a part. Most of my strength didn't come from a gym, its from the first gulf war in 90-91. The more you endure, overcome, experience, and survive of a harsh life the easier everything else becomes, because you have seen worse. You can get there without the wars and abuse, but like OP said you have to get active and actually compete.

I like the way Theodore Roosevelt said it.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

Title	You need to be doing a combat sport
Author	RH1N0GE
Upvotes	165
Comments	269
Date	August 29, 2014 3:38 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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