Fuck it

dirkberkis · 2019-05-22T19:38:21+00:00

True to a point. Being objectively healthy knocks out so many obstacles, but you can only go so far with an obnoxious or plankish personality.

MaxInTheMiddle · 2019-05-22T20:12:36+00:00

Agree. Especially when you say to cut out pornography.

runninthrutha6 · 2019-05-22T22:11:28+00:00

I have no problems with your advice, but I do with your pseudoscience. Show me a reputable study about your "brain inflammation" please; any claim on here should be supportable.

atlantabull · 2019-05-22T19:33:29+00:00

1000% agree. Its quite a simple formula

IntoxicatedOrange · 2019-05-22T22:20:56+00:00

Green tea and chocolate have caffeine in them so that's contrary to your "avoid" list. Maybe saying avoid excessive caffeine is a better one.

This is good advice for general health, but I don't see why you think these things have a connection to having good self esteem or social skills and dating life. I've personally met a lot of people who follow your suggestions already and don't have a good dating life, and vice versa. Yes I think your list is a good way to be at least somewhat attractive, physically, and making the best of your genetics. And it can HELP with mental health issues especially around fatigue and depression, but I don't see how it can help with self esteem, anxiety, and bad social habits.

So, it's a good list, I agree with it as suggestions, but not a solution in itself to getting better at dating.

cybeel · 2019-05-23T01:33:44+00:00

I'm pretty sure there are people who watch porn, eat/drink unhealthily, don't exercise regularly, and still have a dating life.

TeapotTheDog · 2019-05-23T00:35:40+00:00

Agreed. Playing games and gaming chick are only really needed if you don't have yourself together.

"Don't be needy, wait 3 days, don't text too much in the beginning." If you have a busy successful life that comes naturally.

"Don't make yourself too available." You shouldn't be available all the time if your life is going well, you should have other hobbies and friends.

"Don't take their bs." It's basically saying you should have self respect. And you should, they don't respect you then f em.

All of these game rules come naturally for someone with a good life. Which is why they work for people who like to play games. Guys and girls especially want someone who has their shit together.

P.s. not talking shit on guys who game chicks, or anything of the sort. You do you. Just in my experience when my life is going well, I have a hard time keeping chicks off me. When things are rough for whatever reason, I couldn't land a date to save my life. Work on yourself and you'll find someone without games.

TheXXL · 2019-05-22T20:18:38+00:00

I think you are confusing a few things here. Eating healthy has a great effect on your body, working out as well, and to some degree you will feel more confident, but those are correlations not causations. When it comes to porn, that is a whole other story. It can skew your reality and only whacking off to porn and never having sex, will train you to only get off to the hard grip of your hand in combination with strong visual stimuli,which will make sex hard to enjoy.

True confidence comes from other sources,Ike achievements in life, positive experiences, moving out of your comfort zone, basically anything that makes you realize how much you can do on your own and how much success you can achieve.

traceviral · 2019-05-22T19:33:48+00:00

There isnt that much correlation... to a healthy dating life and all those things you mentioned.

Alcatraz-12 · 2019-05-22T23:24:09+00:00

jacking off reduces gray matter ? what's your source ?

CarlCarlton · 2019-05-23T07:03:36+00:00

One of my high school buddies does literally the total opposite of this, and he still pulls 3 chicks a week, with more chasing him. For context, he's 27 years old, 6'3", average looking, a bit of acne, slightly overweight, average-pitched voice, consumes porn regularly, owns a startup, makes like $50k/y, drives a Jetta, rents an apartment near the big clubs, and has an ultra charismatic personality.

One night, I was hanging out with him and a few girls he friendzoned, he straight up suggested going to a strip club, zero fucks given; the girls were like "fuck yeah."

Yes, keep sipping your green tea and krill oil. That'll change everything for sure, right?

Right???

Handsome_Claptrap · 2019-05-23T09:05:16+00:00

I would like to add more about "stop feeding junk to you brain", it's only a biochemical thing, it's also more abstract.

If you are on reddit, you are probably subscribed to subs like funny, gifs, memes, whatever. All of them are just brain junk.

You don't only need physical relax, but also mental relax. If you study or have a job that engages your brain, then you get home and spend your free time on reddit and videogames, you are constantly exerting your brain, giving it no time to truly rest, all of this while filling it of things that you don't really need, it's stuff that ends on itself.

Gaming is expecially dangerous because it involves focus, memory, quick reaction times and so on, it's highly demanding on your brain. Reddit is also bad because it makes you constantly jump from topic to topic.

Exercise is great because it tires your body, but rests your mind. You can't exercise all day, so try to have some TRULY relaxing habits.

Meditating is awesome for this, taking a walk is also very fine, listening to music or reading are good because they require less brainpower and make you stay focused on a single topic for long.

Declutter your brain. A messy brain makes everything harder.

This doesn't mean you should ditch reddit, gaming or whatever. You can clean your reddit subscriptions and stick to actually useful subs, that can help you in everyday life, you can also put a time limit to reddit and gaming, plus you an train your brain o be les jumpy by not hopping on Facebook, Instagram or reddit whenever you have a minute of downtime. Take that minute to look out the window and relax.

anon1moos · 2019-05-22T23:09:51+00:00

This is utter bullshit. There are plenty of people who are doing all the things you just said and have exactly 0 luck with women.

Yes some of these things could help but there is way more to it than that.

VDKay · 2019-05-23T05:58:34+00:00

Personally, I think moderation in everything is key. These habits are indeed good, but it's perfectly OK if you don't overdo it. You don't need to cut-off porn, but if you watch porn, like 2 hours a day, you do need to reduce it because yes, porn has some bad effects on your brain plus you are spending 2 hours doing nothing! But then again, equally bad is also abstinence (sexual frustration, repressed sexuality, etc.). Same with others. It is perfectly OK to drink a cup of coffee with half spoonful of sugar per day. It makes you alert and tones your nervous system (especially after lunch). However, if you have 5 cups of coffee and caffeinated soft-drinks a day and you can't sleep well, then, yes, you may need to cut back on it a bit. Moderation.

For me, I see like 10% people living with these kinds of extremes in their life and doing OK, but I see the other 90% who live in moderation (who also enjoying small "sins"), and they do pretty OK as well. Of course, everything is a matter of personal preference and what actually works for you, but every time I talked with people on-line or in real-life, I came to believe that all these extremes were only means of "over-compensation". They are like "I am not doing well with girls. It must be my not-yet-perfect body. I'll hit the gym every single day from now on and cut off sugar and fat", or "It must be all that brain fog from caffeine and processed foods that I can't communicate well with people". No buddy, you are just circle-jerking around the problem which is essentially to go fucking talk to people constantly. And when they do talk to just one girl and she turns them down, they are like "see?! see?! I told you I am not perfect yet!". Bullshit man! You are just finding excuses to crawl back to your man-cave and isolate yourself from the uncomfortable (yet so necessary) feeling of rejection.

MetalPandaDance · 2019-05-23T01:40:46+00:00

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kcftb · 2019-05-22T22:40:05+00:00

Dude chocolate and green tea both contain caffeine. You avoiding caffeine or not?

macook814 · 2019-05-22T22:23:35+00:00

Stopped the pronz and had great results. So happy I did.

HeadshotKill77 · 2019-05-23T09:28:17+00:00

Agree with everything you said except the part about caffeine.

Caffeine has more pros than cons (talking about coffee,tea..NOT energy drinks), Just balance its intake for the day (400mg).

recyclablebanthas · 2019-05-24T01:33:22+00:00

.....you will naturally develop enough confidence and self-esteem, and feel good enough to have a very healthy dating/social life.

We frequently have guys posting here about how they got fit and are still spinning their wheels. And most notably, show terrible inner game still. I have seen this sort of thing play out in person, watching as people got fit, regular exercise, the whole nine yards, yet still they shot themselves in the foot. One guy in particular that I knew for years, I watched unintentionally turn down a girl he really wanted to date when she asked him out, all when he was at the peak of fitness.

In contrast, one of the biggest players I ever saw, was a chronically overweight, wall-eyed dude with an overbite who pulled off some of the most ridiculous game I have ever seen. Picked up on a girl while they were driving separate cars on the freeway. Picked up on a stripper at work. Poached his roommate's blind date while he was napping waiting for her to arrive.

This is like the eternal debate about whether it's inner game or outer game. And it's pointless because we're talking about something that's necessary, but NOT sufficient alone to do the job.

Here's the real answer. Fitness is important. You ought to take care of the body you have because it's the only damn one you get. But make no mistake, fitness alone does NOT absolve anyone of whatever inner game battles they have to fight. And one can certainly win those inner game battles and start gaming, before they're "fit."

Whalers7997 · 2019-05-23T09:58:28+00:00

Add:

DMT

SouthernOhioRedsFan · 2019-05-23T04:07:45+00:00

What in the ever-loving fuck is everyone's problem with porn? Also, who doesn't love ice cream?

jeceandgin · 2019-05-23T05:31:11+00:00

So this is good advice, but can only take you so far IMO. I am in fantastic shape, very lean and extremely active. I eat very healthy, have an engineering degree from a great school and have a very high paying job. And I am still a kissless virgin at the age of 25. And I am not awkward either. Maybe a little bit but it’s not bad. I just struggle to meet women in the first place as an adult. Right now I’m trying to just have a normal social life and then worry about dating. I feel the two are connected and having a social life will help later on with dating

VDKay · 2019-05-23T05:43:56+00:00

OK, tell us the numbers. How many different girls/month were you laying before and how many girls/month are you laying now after these lifestyle changes (factor-out experience talking to girls)? What was the single most important thing you did? How have interactions with girls or other people improved?

IrtezaA · 2019-05-23T05:48:16+00:00

Can anyone explain to me why is porn bad?

Snakehead004 · 2019-05-23T12:12:53+00:00

Think the porn thing is a younger generation thing. I'm mid 30's and watch porn but it doesn't negatively effect my dating life. My peers have similar experience. The rest of the list is spot on! Well done!

Notgaytoday · 2019-05-23T13:53:05+00:00

Avoid Porn... yeah right. Maybe when I’m dead.

Evening_Description · 2019-05-23T14:50:21+00:00

What an absolute crock of shit. If this was for some general self-help garbage subreddit it would be good, but this has fuck all to do with seduction.

Kennethkukenkarlsson · 2019-05-23T18:07:08+00:00

You a crazy person

ethical_pa · 2019-05-23T18:38:41+00:00

I agree 100% with what you said. Although I think a lot of people will read this as an excuse to focus on themselves and inner game. While this is always good, you need BOTH inner and outer game to be successful. Inner game is helpful in taking care of yourself and an important part of growth and being more centered and mature. Understanding yourself is very important in developing social intelligence.

Outer game is a skill set that is inherently social and must be PRACTICED. You need to interact with a lot of people (mainly hot girls) to be able to develop into a more attractive guy. No amount of inner game is going to help you, if it's all you do, or even if that's the main thing you focus on. The 2 MUST be balanced. Inner and outer.

EDIT; I don't think inner game is hard to focus on for most guys on this sub, as we tend to be more analytical, etc. Outer game is often where they need practice. Speaking from experience, it's often hard for guys lacking in social intelligence to understand where they are lacking because they don't even know what they are doing wrong. Doing game accelerates the process of understanding as you get much more painful negative feedback. If you are motivated enough and stick with it, you can learn.

Yegelle · 2019-05-22T21:00:08+00:00

What you say about krill oil is not true.

baddog992 · 2019-05-22T22:25:25+00:00

For some its not about diet its about being able to talk to women and having confidence in yourself to do it. What good does it do a guy if he looks like superman and can not talk to women?

Luffydude · 2019-05-22T21:23:43+00:00

I got financials, health and dating down but I'm struggling with the porn lol

CallOfReddit · 2019-05-22T21:27:33+00:00

That's basically (W)inner game, bro

twice4k · 2019-05-23T00:22:48+00:00

Idk why the hell reddit subscribed me to this sub, but every single post here sounds like it was made by the jacked 32yr old that works at a gas station who still wears Converse, Jerseys, and Snapbacks everywhere they go.

Aside from that, your healthy advice isn't wrong in any way but the "avoid" stuff is totally dependent on the individual. Anything and everything is bad in excess. Caffeine is in green tea, Terry Crews binges on all that sugar/processed good shit on his cheat day, and porn can control a person or enhance a couple's sex life.

Here I thought this sub was for kinks. Lmao.

jaksketch · 2019-05-23T07:25:24+00:00

Agree with all except the porn.

TaeKwonPiccolo · 2019-05-22T22:10:14+00:00

I'm on Day 7 of my NoFap challenge, but I still watch porn. What are your thoughts on edging? Getting hard but not ejaculating??

DimitriT · 2019-05-23T03:18:59+00:00

I think that the most important thing in whole of this is the Exercise. It's not only good for your body but it's also good for your brain! That's the most important part. I'm not sure about all of the other stuff.

Brostory_com · 2019-05-23T16:08:04+00:00

Why Dark Chocolate? Only thing I havn´t heard about before.

Evening_Description · 2019-05-23T16:25:48+00:00

I'm about to go buy a dark chocolate bar, I bet the cashier will just jump on my dick the second she sees it. Gotta make sure it's that decaf dark chocolate as well. What a joke this subreddit has become.

greenlittleman · 2019-05-23T18:01:44+00:00

So, how many new girls you have had sex with in the last three years? If you follow all of this and your number is less than 50 then all of this unrelated to seduction or pickup. How to get girls - develop social skills, your looks and approach a lot. The higher your skills, looks and the more girl you approach (either IRL or online) - the more girls you will get. Everything else wouldn't give you even 10% of it.

Also it doesn't make much sense what "porn makes you needy". People become needy not because they want sex, but because they want validation. If you want to be in a state in which you don't care about getting sex then just fap. Most guys wouldn't want to have sex if they already orgasmed recently. But of course it wouldn't work. Because neediness isn't about being horny.

wishihadaps42 · 2019-05-23T21:49:47+00:00

Hey man and I wanted to respond to this. Ive been going to the gym regularly 3-5 days a week for the last year put on some muscle look much better than before, still have a way to go, cut out caffeine 6 months ago and I have ZERO attention from women. I'm still depressed, still a fool. My confidence did go up and I'm still friendly and try to talk to women in general not hitting on them and I'm still alone. Your advice doesn't always work but it does help a lot of guys.

HeavyMeringue · 2019-05-22T23:13:05+00:00

Well true but why do you think we'd downvote you.

folasanmi · 2019-05-22T22:26:27+00:00

I grew up playing soccer at a division 1 level and and it’s taught me so much about life that I wouldn’t otherwise have learned if it wasn’t for it. The importance of a healthy body and mind translate into performance and its so easy to translate that same mentality into other areas of life. I would recommend guys to be a part of something that some what forces them to do this. To be a risk taker and competitive.

fortnatsu · 2019-05-22T23:07:04+00:00

Is weed included in this list? I’ve been having incredible difficulty approaching even though I’ve done it 8 times now. Nothing bad happened. They were all great interactions that taught me much about what I need to work on but MY FUCKIN BODY just won’t stop caring what other people think. I’ve improved every aspect of my life with gym and kick boxing. I just got some god forsaken reason have this incredible flight response and I don’t understand what to do anymore. I tell myself “I’m gonna die old and lonely if I don’t” “I’m doing a disservice to her by not approaching” but every time I go to do it. MY BODY just turns away.

I think the answer to my question is practice practice practice. But I mentally can’t push myself to practice because of my limiting beliefs. It’s fucked. After reading Models, the rational male, under cover sex signals and the natural. I KNOW the interaction will go well during my day game approaches. But I still for some god forsaken can’t do it. Please help.

traj250 · 2019-05-23T01:44:37+00:00

Porns actually the worst habit I used to have ever. Kills all sexual drive and fucks with you. Become content with life, and that the biggest mistake you can make: always gotta strive for more, whether that's in terms of girls, career or whatever.

405sucks · 2019-05-23T02:18:14+00:00

Downvote me, but I’m just gonna say it anyway. I did all the above. Over the past 4-5 months I got out of an abusive relationship, got back in shape, found a six figure job, got a BMW and my own apartment. I built scrapers for most dating websites (I’m a programmer) and I go out to bars on weekends to talk to girls. I haven’t gotten a single phone number yet.
I’ll make a post on this sub if I get laid / find a girlfriend any time soon, but for now I’m on a dry spell and it sucks the soul out of me at night when I’m in bed.

MatSapientia · 2019-05-23T06:42:13+00:00

Very true, been applying the same for months. It’s enough to change your personality and vision in life, recover your natural unconscious game and enough curiosity, bravery to be social, friendly and full of energy. There is no way this recipe won’t work unless you are cheating too much.

Though I’d add: constant self improvement, you have to do more than just eating right and lifting. You need to maintain a sense of achievement

krazyken15 · 2019-05-23T12:32:34+00:00

I totally agree! Working out especially makes my mood feel a lot better but by improving your diet is the key to changing your body. Not saying you have to eat 100% clean all the time but a good balance. I keep it at 90% clean eating ( protein, fruits, veggies, complex carbs, and healthy fats) and 10% whatever ( pizza, burritos, pastries,etc)

Feral_Garbage_Boy · 2019-05-23T12:49:45+00:00

You wanna know what helps me break out of mt shell and chat people up? Crystal meth. No shit, I can chat up anybody now, be it the ladies, old folks, dudebros, and the shadow.

Crystal meth also helped me cut out caffeine completely and all junk food. I really just stopped eating, altogether. And meth is cheap too, a 30$ bag will keep a novice user high for a week.

Stick some meth up your ass, that'll get you laid.

stellarguymk · 2019-05-23T13:17:28+00:00

I'm half-assing all of these things you talk about and even in my pitiful attempts, I've noticed definite changes. This shit works.

49_1 · 2019-05-23T13:39:42+00:00

no shit? why would you think this is even slightly controversial?

popkore · 2019-05-23T14:50:04+00:00

You have no idea how much I needed this

kslidz · 2019-05-23T15:05:10+00:00

Porn (reduces gray matter in the brain,

just want to address this.

the only 1 study (that hasn't been retested since 2014) that found this only found less grey matter with excessive watching of porn. Also there is no indication that more porn means less grey matter in specific areas of the brain or people with less grey matter in that area are more likely to watch excessive amounts of porn.

please don't say stupid 3rd hand science that hasn't even been verified in their own field.

also

AVOID...Caffeine...ADD:...Green Tea & Dark Chocolate

take out caffeine but add caffeine?

agjrpsl · 2019-05-23T01:27:44+00:00

You should write a book. You got it right . Thank's.

Butt-Fudge · 2019-05-23T00:51:12+00:00

I... actually agree with you. For 3 months in college, I decided to live this way as a last resort to clear my stubborn acne. Not only did my face clear up (to a point), but I was definitely happier and more confident. I would chat up people not because I felt like I had to for "practice", but because I actually just wanted to get to know people.

It all went to shit when I got busy with school/work again. And the depression. It just puts you into a vicious cycle.

Waffle626 · 2019-05-23T04:50:18+00:00

Dating isn't worth it

kayj5843 · 2019-05-23T00:31:54+00:00

Agree totally I would add just to see what type of food does what to your body Don't eat anything for 2 days just live on water let your body flush out the waste and snap you out of the reality that this food has made you gone through. After that try eating what you eat the most slowly and be aware what it makes you feel. If the food makes you tired 1st then gives you energy later it's the bad food for body and brain. Also after that meal don't eat anything and see how much time it stays in your body. For this you have to be really really aware the whole day. If it stays in your body for more than 12 hours then it affects your body in really bad way. It fuck up you sleep pattern every singal day. If you stomach has anything in it before sleep, it causes inertia in you body, just for litmus test if you wake up really tired and kink in your eyes, you should stop eating that food. Meat, beef or any other type of fles food stays in the body for 24-36 hours depending upon if it's raw, cooked or fried, and body temperature is 37 degrees. Try to put meat in 37 for 24 hours and see what happens to it, that's happening in your body. Best thing you can eat - honey it takes half an hour to full go through human system and it's the only substance on the planet that's formation is closest to human blood so make it as the culture. Just keep experimenting and don't ask from your toung what it wants, ask from body what it wants. If you keep following this you will start becoming more concious, more alert, your brain will start functuing way better and slowly you will start being at ease all the time. Only the 1st part is the hardest I.E being aware of what food does to you and start ignoring what the toung wants. Hope it helps Thanks

I learnt all this from YouTube source. A guy name sadhguru. You must check him out I doubt slolwly u will not start loving him. Kj

muff_marauder · 2019-05-22T19:37:13+00:00

Excellent, truthful advice.

comu_nacho · 2019-05-23T00:14:49+00:00

I'll add reduce screen-watching time. Video games, social media, TV, Youtube, etc. most of it just numbs you.

TRUETOHISWORD · 2019-05-22T21:34:51+00:00

Thank you great info

legend503 · 2019-05-22T22:37:52+00:00

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