women shouldn't make men wait for sex proved with "data and psychology"

Equipoisonous · 2022-04-22T12:18:20+00:00

I'm really sick of men claiming there should be no need to delay sex for "unnecessary" reasons like waiting for commitment. These are the same men that claim hook-ups and one night stands are equal because both people had sex.

I'm sorry, but both people did not have the same experience because they have completely different anatomy and socialization. You had a great night where you had a lot of pleasure with very little worry. She likely didn't receive as much pleasure as you did from the experience, and has a lot more to worry about than you do.

Finally, for me sex just does not feel good unless there's commitment and emotional connection, period. I'm sick of people acting like we want to delay sex for some pointless manufactured shit test. I delay sex because it's what I NEED to feel safe, secure, and enjoy the experience when it does happen.

haggis_rising · 2022-04-22T12:37:27+00:00

Gotta wonder why men write this garbage in the first place - they're getting desperate.

They feel entitled to sex. The truth is, we don't owe men sex. Ever. No one has any claim on your body but you.

It's just that up until recently women have been forced to interact with them, have sex and reproduce with them because of (misogynistic) societal conventions.

Interesting-Bat3992 · 2022-04-22T11:21:43+00:00

"Maddona-whore sEdUCtiON technique"

"Make HIM feel great and stroke his ego by acting like an "easy girl" but just for HIM, you're the serious girl with other men, and the easy girl only for him"

This is literally a pickmeiesha's technique. I had done this at the advice of a libfem.

I had done this when I was at my lowest point of no self respect whatsoever.

He just repackaged it as a "technique". It's the same scrote BS of making women lower their standards so that they can use, abuse and discard the woman (his fleshlight) at their own leisure.

Don't do this. Never do this.

saint-jezebel · 2022-04-22T11:41:45+00:00

Never listen to or even give any amount of time to self-proclaimed HVM and alpha males. They sleep with the rats.

galian84 · 2022-04-22T12:31:57+00:00

Of course a male would write and proclaim something that benefits males.

Please don’t ever do this. Also, a lot of people don’t know what HVM means. And if this dude has to shout it from the rooftops that he is, he is not.

This doesn’t work, and I know because I was this woman when I was a pickme. The two times I didn’t delay sex because I felt pressured by the males and libfem media and pickme friends, I got used. Literally had to browbeat one guy into being my boyfriend, while he talked to other women the whole time we were dating. Another guy refused to even say we were actually dating. I have also seen this with my female friends, past and present. They’ve done this and for the most part, the males didn’t take them seriously.

Just don’t. Have sex when YOU are ready and comfortable, and if he isn’t willing to wait? He ain’t the one, sis.

BlueSkiesOverLondon · 2022-04-22T11:21:14+00:00

Lol his “Madonna whore technique,” as you describe it, is just how most women naturally are when they’re happy with and attracted to their partner in a serious, exclusive relationship. But that’s just it: easy sexual access to a woman has to be earned. It’s stupid to act like a man has earned that when he hasn’t. Just like it would be stupid to act like a financial advisor had earned your trust instantly and give them all your money the first time you two meet, in the hope that it will make them like you and thus work harder for you.

Also, he’s dead wrong about pretty much everything. I could go through correcting his assertions one-by-one, but frankly I have better things to do with my Friday. I will say, though, that this idea that good men want “equity” in their relationships and will thus demand early sex is super reductive, and just a fancy way of encouraging the stereotype/idea that men can pay for sex with you by getting a sufficient number of “got you flowers” or “took you to dinner” stamps, and then you owe them. No. A good man wouldn’t even attempt this with you. It’s incredibly disrespectful to try to purchase someone’s consent, and give gifts disengenuously. Good men do things they are comfortable doing even if there is no reciprocation, because they like you and want to make you happy.

adalovelace1793--- · 2022-04-22T19:01:24+00:00

I will translate: 'why dont you let yourself be fucked and fucked over for free? Waah waah' 🤣 die mad scrotes 🤮

Jay-Qualin · 2022-04-22T12:46:26+00:00

I love how he mentions other dating advice is nothing more than “platitudes and authors opinions.” LOL! Strange how we evolved to red pill teaching guys to feel entitled to women genuinely out of their league. Gee maybe those writers were onto something.

mashibeans · 2022-04-22T20:27:20+00:00

LOL well you know what, female biology AND psychology makes it so women have to selective of their sexual partners. They're vulnerable for 9 months and then have to care for that child for another 18 years, they NEED to be choosey, and this means not dolling out sex like it's free candy.

Funny how their blanket "it's biology!" "it's psychology!" excuses are only valid when it comes to justifying their shitty, selfish actions.

23eggz · 2022-04-22T14:42:11+00:00

Men are so self absorbed that they think its about seducing them and not protecting ourselves 😑

Jay-Qualin · 2022-04-22T18:52:39+00:00

Side note: funny how he talks about all these high quality women out there...yet I don't see him committing to any of them (Look at men's actions, and never listen to their words)

Also notice how he described sex in this article: "the biggest fruits of love"

So the scrote admits that sex is a big deal and a huge reward, yet he complains about how women make men wait & require investment without chipping in, and how it creates relationship "unbalance"

PenelopePitstop21 · 2022-04-22T13:46:00+00:00

Men have a really skewed idea of what a high value man is. They either think only in terms of net monetary value, or alternatively whether he can f-ck as many attractive/younger women as possible. Wealth (not merely a comfortable income) is a kinda yellow flag, something all women should consider carefully rather than automatically treat it as a sign of high value in a male. Because wealth breeds entitlement in the minds of men, and all abuse is rooted in a sense of entitlement. And being able to get any woman? Is a negative trait if all the pretty boi does with his good looks is turn himself into community d-ck. What self-respecting woman wants that?

The funniest thing is that real alpha males don't spend any time saying they are alpha. Real heroes just slip their shoes off and dive in: and if they are asked about it afterwards they are surprised, think it really wasn't a big deal, voicing their honest belief that they didn't do anything special. They truly believe that anyone would have done the same.

E.g. Stephen Ellison:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-54961075.amp

And here he is interviewed afterwards, saying "I was just the fastest at getting my shoes off":

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-54971215

__kamikaze__ · 2022-04-22T12:16:40+00:00

Nah, make his ass wait. That’s just more male propaganda to brainwash you into a pickme.

2022-04-22T11:46:01+00:00

Typical male-owned media tactics

FI-REfox · 2022-04-22T13:59:11+00:00

In the first place, the constant repeating popups on the site already tell me everything I need to know about this man's lack of understanding about consent.

I thought about doing a breakdown of each point of his chicanery (beginning with nOt aLl MeN, which his entire article is precariously perched upon), but let's just end his suffering quickly.

The problem with articles and arguments like this is that there are TWO TYPES OF MEN: HVM and LVM. His entire argument is premised on the penis wants of LVM. He cannot see any perspective other than "I want to fuck as soon as possible, but I'll wait for some time if it allows me to manipulate the other person more effectively". This is what he thinks HVW are doing when they want to wait to have sex. He does not understand that for HVW (and HVM), waiting to have sex is not a chore.

You cannot reason with these people, because they are incapable. You cannot tell a gambling addict that it's crazy to bankrupt yourself and everyone around you. You cannot explain to a drug addict that you don't also feel a burning need to destroy your body and relationships int he pursuit of a high. They cannot conceive of having the self-control to enjoy their desires responsibly. Scrotes are self-pleasure addicts and they can only understand scrote lOgIc. Of course he thinks that waiting to have sex is manipulation.

He can cite any philosophical, literary or scientific reference he likes (and he cited plenty of nonsense). Other addicts could do the same to try to bolster and argument that the desires of kleptomaniacs and arsonists are nAtUrAl and that we need to accommodate them.

But he's right about one thing. It IS "not all men". Because HVM do not think and behave as this man does. Unfortunately, however, scrotes are in the sizeable majority. That is the reason for vetting and waiting to make sure the man you choose to have sex with is a HVM and not a scrote with antiquated ideas and an improbably ridiculous name.

MsWriteNow07 · 2022-04-22T14:52:13+00:00

LOL, no matter how much these misogynists try to hide it with “science “and word salad, their inevitable hatred of women will pop out. According to this in.cel HVM won’t wait because they have options and they won’t “invest in a woman who is withholding from them.” Did you catch that? He just said women’s only value is sex. If anyone wants further proof he says, “All my relationships started with a quick bang, the rest were boring.” Yeah, of course they were boring to you, you don’t see women as human beings, so you project that onto every man and assume no man wants to spend time with a woman he’s not screwing. Real HVM don’t think like that. Men who are deeper than a puddle and have something going for them want more out of a partner than a human blowup doll. They actually enjoy spending time with women and getting to know them. I don’t have to read the rest to know what he eventually said. Some gobbledygook playbook for pretending to be the cool girl. All of these male “relationship experts” are the same. Which is why I no longer take dating advice from men. I realized one day, you don’t need any tricks to get a real HVM. Just go be the best version of yourself, limit your exposure to losers by following the FDS handbook, and live your best life.

Snoo32629 · 2022-04-22T14:36:16+00:00

Lmao I made my boyfriend wait about two years 😂 He respected my boundaries back then and still does to this day. Scrotes will call him a simp or whatever term they’ve come up with to describe a genuinely respectful and loving man, but to me he’s just a man who sees women as actual people and not someone who goes through life thinking with his dick

lvioletsnow · 2022-04-22T15:19:23+00:00

"Make HIM feel great and stroke his ego by acting like an "easy girl" but just for HIM, you're the serious girl with other men, and the easy girl only for him"

Another dumb Scrote who doesn't have to worry about STDs and pregnancy or getting murdered.

savedempath · 2022-04-22T14:15:15+00:00

"Because that only works with men who are lower quality than you are."

his theory is based on his opinion not reality. Ladies if you want a relationship don't listen to that garbage. He honestly sounds confused because he even said you should wait if you want a serious suitor lol.

Carneliancat · 2022-04-22T22:30:53+00:00

Nah, I'm not interested in common dick. Dick is everywhere, attached to really substandard men. The only dick that interests me is the dick of someone I love, who loves me back, ardently. I'm also not going to ACT like anything--I'm going to BE myself, and accept the pleasure that I actually enjoy. I'm not going to play into any poisonous societal messaging and go for the Academy Award. No role playing, no p*rn drag costuming, and no weird kInKs. If men don't like my stance, then they can fuck each other.

FUBARfromLSA · 2022-04-22T13:23:50+00:00

And then we all laughed and laughed.

thelightsource12 · 2022-04-22T16:07:56+00:00

I once had a dude try to persuade me to have sex on the third date and when I said I don't want to be intimate with someone I barely know he responded he "needs to have sex to build intimacy" I have never rolled my eyes so hard in my life

CatherineWinkworth · 2022-04-23T00:55:14+00:00

Why are we even looking at this garbage website with all these pop ups? I don’t care what some guy thinks. Let’s all read real books instead.

OxkissyfrogxO · 2022-04-22T12:14:00+00:00

Where and why are you on that site? Its like some lazy return of kings knockoff.

Edit: I'm not knocking you, I'm just asking why you would torture yourself by reading this? Its like a horny 12 year old came up with half of those graphs. Did some man send you the link?! If its for a laugh I can see it, I hope you had a good laugh though.

millions_ofpeachs4me · 2022-04-22T15:43:51+00:00

I’m not forcing a man to do anything, least of all wait on me. I have a high drive and make myself put off sex to be sure I’m with the kind of man who will be worth my time. If he throws a fit about this after all of two weeks of knowing him, I have received my answer with great ease.

They make everything about themselves, part infinity.

2022-04-22T14:41:59+00:00

Your instinct is spot on. If you see any advice like this, it is absolutely right for you to dismiss it instantly.

Bezzazz · 2022-04-22T16:22:25+00:00

🙄 I think he's full of it and wants to manipulate women into acting this way so that it's easier like scum for him to get laid. Loser.

mitzislippers · 2022-04-23T05:31:46+00:00

“scientists” pfft

lightcobaltblue · 2022-04-22T17:56:04+00:00

What you really should do is what you want!!

Junior-Lion7893 · 2022-04-26T01:38:43+00:00

There was like so many ads popping up in my phone lol

This looks more like a blog rather than something off of a legit source that I would take seriously.

This author sounds like he needs someone to stroke his ego. It feels like a cry for attention and some pickme is going to willingly agree with this bs.

Title	women shouldn't make men wait for sex proved with "data and psychology"
Author	Jay-Qualin
Upvotes	853
Comments	70
Date	April 22, 2022 11:02 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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