Purple pillers, How do you deal with the entitlement mentality from guys in various aspects of rel

RinoaRita · 2022-05-09T00:33:29+00:00

I haven’t actually seen high n count guys demand low n count women. I’ve mostly seen low n count men complain that the the women they’re dating has a high n count and it makes them feel insecure or that they’re angry that the girl they’re dating had a wild past.

High n count guys also just settle down and say they got it out their system during their crazy bachelor days. The guys that never got to experience that are the ones who are mad.

YouAskedIt · 2022-05-08T23:27:46+00:00

Don't date them. Note the hypocrisy and move on. There are too many decent guys that aren't that way to waste your time.

athlete2biz · 2022-05-09T01:36:10+00:00

this post just sounds like you are hooking up with/dating guys who are out of your league and who dont take you seriously,

EstateThin1549 · 2022-05-09T00:00:21+00:00

It's impressive for a man to have a high body count. It requires good social skills plus whatever else it is that women want. Most men have very low body counts.

It is not impressive at all for a woman to have a high body count. It doesn't take any skills of any kind and suggests a lack of self control.

I don't like the way it is, nor do I expect any woman in my life to be a virgin, but that is the why of the double standard.

The oral thing should be a 2 way street 100%

SmarmyPapsmears · 2022-05-08T23:46:39+00:00

expecting women to have a very low N count, while they don't have low N count themselves and the audacity to judge women based on the N count, while they have a much higher N count

You have to accept that in order to be viewed as feminine, you have to keep your count low. It's not about man vs woman here, because men and women aren't the same.

Apart from this, some of them mentioning they don't do oral while ASKING for oral from you. The entitlement!

Tell them to fuck off. To me, no oral is a DB.

kaiden08 · 2022-05-09T01:03:05+00:00

Men and women are not the same so apples to apples comparisons are not legitimate

KekeSmall · 2022-05-09T00:38:53+00:00

The answer is to not deal with them. It’s fruitless to exhaust yourself trying to convince people all the time about why they’re wrong. And that includes everyone in your life, not just a Ron’s tic partner. Sometimes it’s best to let people stew in their own ignorance.

Actual-Necessary5051 · 2022-05-09T01:42:52+00:00

What’s “N count”?

Guitar-Master9891 · 2022-05-09T08:12:35+00:00

expecting women to have a very low N count, while they don't have low N count themselves and the audacity to judge women based on the N count, while they have a much higher N count

Most guys will invariably run into women with higher N-counts than them. Your average dude has a lower N-count than your average girl (thou not by much) and while it may not like them they will have to learn how to deal with it if they want to have a relationship with a woman. That's the way it is today.

On the other hand, I have a really high N-count and I date women with incredibly lower N-counts than myself, and while I don't expect every woman to have a loe N-count, it is my first requisit to enter in a LTR with a girl. If you like it, fine, if you don't, your route. That's what I want and if you can't offer that then another woman will.

Apart from this, some of them mentioning they don't do oral while ASKING for oral from you. The entitlement!

Not my case (I love to give actually, and while recieving feels good I don't demand it... At least at the same rate I give hahah) but I see your point.

I can keep going but you get the idea. why don't they realise it's a 2 way street or am i wrong in assuming it SHOULD be a two way street

All my relationships are a two way street in the sense that I give women the option to come and go, at will.

But they HAVE to meet my standards too. If they don't they are out.

And also...

Well, I'm very attractive man, and I think that that's the biggest reasson why I got a huge n-count.

On the other hand I've run into lots of average and even ugly girls who has a high count and I was like "yoh, why should I pick this girl if there is that hottie right there with half her notches?

Usually, it's like a man's n-count correlates to how attractive he is to women in general right?

A woman's n-count just tells you how easy she is, and nothing more. Humble, honest personal opinion thou.

spunkystoic · 2022-05-09T15:54:01+00:00

I actually don't think guys are that entitled at all from the anecdotal evidence I've seen.

I've seen far more entitlement from the women in my circle.

kinhk · 2022-05-09T18:48:43+00:00

Entitlement for men. Standards for women. 😂

Rushbyb · 2022-05-09T20:35:34+00:00

Study after study has proven that high N count women are highest demo graph for being unhappy in marriage and like 15 times more likely to cheat. Im not a betting man and i like the odds in my favor.

Sex is mostly physical for a man and women have more emotional experience with sex.

DatingVX · 2022-05-09T09:56:03+00:00

Men and women are equal in terms of human worth, but we are not equal in terms of social rules/standards and realities.

A women's high N count is not the same as a man's N count. Just like how most men don't need their women to make as much money as them. A man's money is valued more than a women's money for example.

Him not giving head and asking for it is definitely entitlement though. Don't give him head if he does not want to give it to you, period.

PlayfulLawyer · 2022-05-08T23:57:01+00:00

The same way that I feel whenever a chick is 5 ft 4, 190 lb, can barely boil water much less cook a good meal ,3 kids 3 fathers and is wack in the sack and yet wants a 6 ft tall, attractive guy who makes really good money and can take care of her financially, which basically is people are allowed to have whatever standards they want, and we're allowed to laugh at it, ultimately it would behoove you to be the kind of person that your potential significant other would want

odd_cloud · 2022-05-09T00:02:21+00:00

It seems like what you describe is a double standard rather than entitlement.

ThisBoringLife · 2022-05-09T00:57:58+00:00

Hmm...

People who have such standards should realize they're placing themselves to a very small pool of women, who might not even accept them after a while realizing what kind of person they're dealing with.

ChibsFilipTelfordd · 2022-05-09T01:28:23+00:00

Id consider myself a purple piller maybe.. and well it really depends on the guy. Most guys are not wanting to take take take and not give anything.

In fact I'd argue even RPs who are professing what they'll do and say are more giving than you think.

People talk a big game on the internet, but... irl most of these RPs are just soft regular guys trying to improve through toxic means

99% of people give and receive oral, unless there's some sort of disgusting medical problem on either end

heartheartdoki96 · 2022-05-08T23:27:32+00:00

Shit guys give shit.

I think they're bitter and sexist. They think society had failed them and they only care about themselves so they won't look for proof that doesn't justify their shitty sexist ideas

How do I deal with it? Don't date them. Not all men are like that and the ones who are are abusive

shadyMFer · 2022-05-08T23:40:23+00:00

You are wrong in assuming it should be a two way street. Men and women are different, and they serve different roles in a relationship.

Guitar-Master9891 · 2022-05-09T08:58:27+00:00

I can't trust a high N-count woman my commitment.

I can trust myself.

She can trust that I'm commiting to her despite I don't need her, I have many other options and I have better things to do than proving myself to her.

More often than not, these are enough reassons for women to overlook my past indiscretions.

And I agree, life it's not fair.

Period.

Catherine772023 · 2022-05-09T12:35:20+00:00

I wish I could know ASAP to reject them.

If I found out I would dump them.

It’s not acceptable for a guy to have such an attitude and expect me to put up with it. He’s basically saying he only cares about his pleasure and has all these expectations for me with no standards for himself.

Why would I want to be with a man like that?

Kondijote · 2022-05-08T23:56:58+00:00

How do you know they don’t have a low N count themselves?

Apprehensive_Boat_70 · 2022-05-08T23:40:52+00:00

I have always found these kind of complaints stupid, if you as woman dislike high n count men just dont date them, is not like you re actually forced either through force or societal pressure, women can reject men for whatever reason and nothing will happen, nobody will come and call you insecure or whatever shaming attemtps are there on the book, but it is obvious you all want these kind of men since you complain that they dont want to date you, i dont give a frick if a gay man doesnt wants to date me since im not into men even though i have had my fair share of attention from gay men, i dont give a frick if a high n hoe doesnt wants to date me since im not into them, the only problem is that they wont get over it and as man you still face a lot of backlash for it even if you re low n count and your values align with what you preach, so fuck it.

AbbreviationsHot1200 · 2022-05-09T02:57:04+00:00

Its not wrong to demand a low N count woman.

A woman with a high N count is likely to be an unsuitable wife.

It completely normal for a desirable man to sew his wild oats and then settle down with a chaste woman.

ppd_reject · 2022-05-09T01:08:54+00:00

By not bending over and backwards to meet their requirements. I lead my sex life as I please even if I know it will turn off some guys, and don't go on second dates with men who have sexist expectations. For example, I went on a date with two or three guys who told me they "respected" me more because I didn't sleep with them right away (or something similar), so I thanked them and explained to them that I only date men who see me as an equal.

If it's a man I'm not dating who expresses similar thoughts I let him know that he's being self entitled and turn it around by making comments about his wallet. Most of the time they get it.

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John_Oakman · 2022-05-09T01:53:09+00:00

Why do you care so much for what they want? Perhaps despite what you officially proclaim they are actually relatively high value... or at least more high value than the males who are more in line with your views...

ClaraBow01 · 2022-05-09T02:44:50+00:00

Avoid at all costs.

LittleDragonMaiden · 2022-05-09T02:48:15+00:00

The easiest thing to do is not be in a relationship with a guy that you feel is entitled. I don’t pay much attention to the opinion of men that aren’t in my life.

sarkington · 2022-05-09T03:07:23+00:00

You just point out reality? What else are we supposed to do?

Do you think we are dating these people irl?

Coolio_Street_Racer · 2022-05-09T03:37:15+00:00

Well I can see how you would think that placing a double standard on women is wrong.

I hope if you think that you also see putting double standards on men is wrong.

Personally I disagree. I don't have a problem with double standards going both ways. In fact I think it's dumb not to have double standards.

Federal_Bat_5355 · 2022-05-09T03:45:05+00:00

Sex is weird and I don't do it and I want the guy who I date to also not do it because it's intimidating and also sort of gross if everything is just about lust. If a guy judges me or gets mad at me for not doing the do then I ignore him.

I think people should be less bothered about people who openly don't like them. If these high N count men don't want me, ok. I go to a different man and he will invalidate the opinion of the first guy. So, I guess my answer is just to find people who have the same values you do.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2022-05-09T04:13:01+00:00

Deal? I don't have to deal with the opinions people spew on the internet

humdf · 2022-05-09T04:54:32+00:00

As you ask - i am entitled a.f and your poster sample.

i can't answer as i do not have to deal with me.

but

i love giving as receiving

Shredddz · 2022-05-09T08:12:07+00:00

you are confused. people need to be judged differently because of different biology and different implications and motivations for actions that appear to be the same but are not.

you having a high n count is different because you are not a man and have different imperatives so it has other motivations and needs to be judged. you cant say male and female body count is the same. It really is something completely different biologically.

most men are doormats, women are entitled beyond hope. this post just shows how entitled you are that you perceive justified demands as entitlement while being insanely demanding for no biological reason other than greed and because you can.

badgersonice · 2022-05-09T13:28:27+00:00

Short answer: Don’t date them. You shouldn’t date anyone whose values and behaviors you don’t like or respect.

Long answer:

Find out their reputation and core values before you have sex with him or commit to him in any way. If you have any social network in common, then you can find out what kind of guy he is. Let your friends tell you about him: a true friend will let you know if the guy is selfish or a slut or a hypocrite or a misogynist or whatever, and judge him that way.

If you have a low n-count because of your own personal sexual values, then only date a man who shares your sexual values. Many men are not desperate sluts slobbering over every female in sight who suddenly change when they hit 30 and decide the women they spent years of effort fucking aren’t “good enough” so they now want to be loyal to a nice prudish low-n girl and never have casual sex with randos again. You don’t want to date the guy who spent his youth putting in tons of effort to fuck lots of women he doesn’t value as potential girlfriend material, who he thinks aren’t “good enough” to commit to.

If he pumped and dumped (or cheated on) lots of other women and loved variety and casual sex, why do you think he’s changed completely and will now be happy with you? If he really wanted to settle down, he could very easily date someone just like himself who shares his sexual values. Sure, some men will finally settle down after getting it all out of their system, but then likewise so will many women… so why does he think he’s too good for the women exactly like him? There are several possible reasons… but none of them are good for you.

If he truly believed ex-sluts like him could be marriage material, then why isn’t he married to one of the many female ex-sluts just like himself already? Let him marry women who actually have something in common with him: they actually are a much better fit. This is what normal high-n men do, because they like the women they have sex with.

And listen to all these men here telling you exactly what they think of high-n women: they say high-n women are not worthy of commitment, are disgusting or repulsive, are not capable of loyalty, and are not good wife material. You should judge such men by their own standards: if they are high-n and think high-n women are not capable of loyalty, then you should assume they are also not capable of loyalty. If they call the women they have had sex with “icky” and “disgusting”, shouldn’t you be disgusted by the idea of having sex with a man who loves having sex with women he thinks are “disgusting”?

Seriously, just don’t date entitled guys. There are good men out there who are not trashy hypocrites.

Also, obviously dump a guy who expects you to give oral, but doesn’t reciprocate.

cf_in_canada · 2022-05-09T15:24:13+00:00

I personally have never had a guy even ask this question or initiate this conversation so I assume I have simply never been attracted to the type of guys who care about this stuff or think a lot about it.

Do I think highly of them? Not really but then I've already been voting with my feet thus far so it's a moot point. They can care about what they want and be hypocrites if they like. Over there. Away from me.

SylvestorTalone · 2022-05-10T01:12:36+00:00

Do you clutch as many pearls over women's hypocritical standards (ie virtualy the entire suite of desirable male characteristics)?

cholmanattom · 2022-05-11T14:48:09+00:00

Most of the complaints came from beta men who got settled for. High N men will just move on or even trying to play down their own wild past.

Advice for men: don't be one of those beta men.

cholmanattom · 2022-05-11T14:55:31+00:00

Another thing, I personally prefer low n woman since I am a conservative low n guy myself and other people opinions will never change my preference. Go ask some chads if you want someone to ignore your wild phase.

smegma_enthusiast · 2022-05-11T15:01:37+00:00

eg: expecting women to have a very low N count, while they don't have low N count themselves and the audacity to judge women based on the N count, while they have a much higher N count

I ignore them.

I assume they are only guys people online coming up with scenarios. I haven't really met High N guys that want low N women outside of this sub.

I have high N friends that date each other and I have low N friends that date each other and then there's this whole different narrative on this sub.

2022-05-11T15:52:36+00:00

I don't know any men like this IRL. Unless your dating tradcons, or have had sex with his friends - he's usually fine.

dottywine · 2022-05-12T06:37:09+00:00

I avoid those men 100%. I've never been with a man who wouldn't give me oral. How can you expect me to give you oral and you won't give me oral? I've been with a few guys who REALLY enjoyed giving oral. Those are fun nights.

It's only one or two times I was with a guy who expected me to go down and I had to ASK him to go down on me. In my head, I was over him. it was a one time thing.

And luckily, never been with a guy who just flat out refused. I almost went on a date with a guy who said it was "gross". No date lol.

So anyway, girl, NO! You are NOT wrong for thinking it's a two way street! It is a two way street! And if he loves giving oral (you'll know if you're about to go down and he tells you no and he goes down again ;D), that's even better. Those guys exist.

ThatGirl50 · 2022-05-09T04:11:02+00:00

No one in real life has asked for my body count. Because awesome adult men don’t give a single fuck

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