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Procter & Gamble the owners of Gillette have this morning announced results and have taken an $8 billion write down on the value of Gillette. In my opinion a lot of that is due to the feminist male hating advert they aired at the start of the year.

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Title Procter & Gamble the owners of Gillette have this morning announced results and have taken an $8 billion write down on the value of Gillette. In my opinion a lot of that is due to the feminist male hating advert they aired at the start of the year.
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Date July 30, 2019 11:50 AM UTC
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Comments

[–]Men-Are-Human 410 points411 points412 points 6 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

I haven't touched a proctor and gamble product knowingly since that advert. Keep up the boycott!

[–]jeribbobminesium 133 points134 points135 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here

[–]BigAl265 104 points105 points106 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Damn right. It's amazing how much shit we were buying from P&G, it's all gone now!

[–]mgtow-zen 95 points96 points97 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I'm glad people are targeting Procter and gamble, not just Gillette.

Let's not buy ANY of their products.

Also, it might be good to mention to the pro Procter and gamble SJW's, that this corporation has a history of practicing dead peasant insurance. Something to think about when you hear about how Procter and gamble are champions of human rights...

(For those who don't know, dead peasant insurance is when you take out life insurance policies on your employees and cash in when they die. It's a process Wal-Mart claims they stopped doing. This would make even Wal-Mart more socially responsible than Procter and gamble, if you think about it)

[–]eboyster 35 points36 points37 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I work at Walmart. They pay for my life insurance.. I’ll look into who actually gets paid out and let you know. That’s pretty fucked up to hear!

[–]mgtow-zen 18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These are two different policies. You may not even know about the policy they have. (If any - Wal-Mart got called on this, and they claim to have stopped) AFAIK, P&G still does it.

[–]Ed_Radley 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean, they technically have a vested interest in their employees being around. This is different than them taking out insurance on random people they think will die soon which is actually illegal. I just think it might be a bit much to have policies on anyone outside of management because the replacement cost wouldn't be apples to apples.

[–]chancethebanker 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Realistically, as long as it is not being charged against you or financially affecting you (i.e. being included as a life insurance policy being paid on your behalf on your taxes) then it would make sense for them to take out policies on employees where there is a real chance for losses or effects to continuity of business if they were to suddenly bite it. Like anyone in a critical, niche, or otherwise hard to replace position.

[–]someguy92614 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here is a link to their products

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https://us.pg.com/brands/

[–]mondo135 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Old Spice and The Art of Shaving are owned by them? Shit!

[–]zeerust2000 66 points67 points68 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Me too. Screw them.

[–]furry8 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Same - bought dollarshaveclub to replace it but I wasn’t too happy with them....

Will try a safety razor next

[–]tdabc123 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Safety razor + badger hair brush = life changing event

[–]furchfur[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. I switched to a safety razor with traditional razor blades and a brush.

It is much cheaper, better for the environment and you get a better shave.

https://www.superdrug.com/Wilkinson-Sword/Wilkinson-Shave-Soap-Bowl/p/117598

[–]furry8 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. Any brand?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just went with Willkinsons razors. Not safety ones. Cheaper and do the job the same.

[–]tdabc123 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, not really. Just picked a mid priced (not the cheapest, not the most expensive) one of amazon.

[–]mondo135 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I use a Merkur 178 Classic safety razor (2 piece). Bought it from Amazon 10 years ago for $28. It's now $40.

The equipment really is built to last and only lost a few hairs on the Tweezerman brush after all this time.

Blades and shaving soaps and creams are trial and error. You can get a sampler pack and decide which you prefer.

[–]Innercepter 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I tried a Harry’s razor and have been pretty happy with it. My face is very sensitive and I had to try four razors before I got to Harry’s. They are super spendy, but the cartridges last quite a while.

[–]TheDrunkSemaphore 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just buy direct from Dorco and save money. Dollar shave club just rebrands dorco razors

[–]SirGuileSir 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep - no longer in use or on the (approved) shopping list.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Hey what laundry detergent and fabric conditioner do you use/recommend?. Tide and downy's are the only remaining P&G products I use now. And I want to move to alternatives.

[–]WolfShaman 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I use All (free and clear) for laundry detergent and Snuggle fabric softener.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks.

[–]WolfShaman 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My pleasure!

[–]Needbouttreefiddy 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We use Persil which I think is Unilever?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. I've used it once before when it was on sale in Amazon. Will try it again.

[–]risunokairu 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What blades do you use? , dollar shave club absolutely sucks.

[–]furchfur[S] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I use these and they are good and cheap.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-DERBY-EXTRA-DOUBLE-EDGE-SAFETY-RAZOR-BLADES-mens-shaving-natural-skin-saving/382652671089?hash=item5917e06471:g:bLAAAOSwGmZb2KYN

Obviously being metal it is all recycled. No plastic which is good for the environment.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Something with superinvasive ads on youtube sucks? I would have never expected it, the next rhing you're telling me that Skillshare is terrible

[–]Thaurane 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There were only a few for me so dropping them was really easy. I switched to shick razors and was amazed at the quality difference. I didn't realize how shitty Gillette razors were.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

But Tide is so good.

Edit: why the down voted? What's a better alternative?

[–]hart-r 210 points211 points212 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Had a gentleman at a Gillette display ask me if I’d like to try their blades.

“Thanks. But I don’t use Gillette or other Proctor & Gamble products any more.”

Multiplied by a few million and a simple statement can pack quite a punch.

[–]such-a-mensch 58 points59 points60 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Did you tell him why? Imo that would be better feedback.

[–]DontFeedTheTech 88 points89 points90 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The show booth employees, or even retail employees, cant take feedback. They aren't provided means to send it to Head Office. When I worked retail for walmart and other stores, we were always told to "take it" and then disregard it. Social media is more meaningful.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Depends. I used to work for a company that provided trade show services for a number of clients (design the booth and experience, build + source, negotiate with venues, get it all on site, then staff it with our staff).

Our reporting at the end of every shift included sections that asked for feedback like this and it was passed back to the client—generally high level in their marketing department, as that was the level we were dealing with them at.

As long as you’re polite and keep it brief, I’d say go ahead. It’s not really going to hurt!

[–]Halafax 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

trade show

Exhibitions is big business, store displays aren't going to offer the same potential for feedback.

As long as you’re polite and keep it brief, I’d say go ahead. It’s not really going to hurt!

Truth. Maybe not useful, but won't hurt.

[–]Ahielia 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Retail employees in general can't relay criticism to head office in a way that the head office will care about. Any time a customer at my store has a beef with whatever the company does and decide to take it out on me, I always tell them to notify the head office either by calling, emailing them or write to them on social media as it'll be a lot more effective that way.

[–]hart-r 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Saying words to someone trying to sell would be meaningless. Men no longer buying their products says much more .. straight to head office :)

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I told them id rather cut myself. And i still wouldn’t be doing that with a gillette blade

[–]miketrance74 points 6 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I have too much toxic masculinity to use proctor and gamble products.

[–]Me_ADC_Me_SMASH 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It reacts with the blades, I just can't use them anymore!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The last package of blades seemed to be infected with a progressive pathogen. My Schtick razors however have been great

[–]RoryTate 133 points134 points135 points 6 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

I think they already knew they went overboard with the male hating when they hastily released that follow-up ad with the much more traditionally masculine veteran in it. Then they did another 180 and said that identity politics was their official direction and doubled down on the initial misandry. P&G/Gillette seems like they are a company at war with themselves, as happens wth many large businesses that are poorly managed and have weak leadership.

[–]Shippoyasha 29 points30 points31 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I keep hearing their aural ads on Spotify and I just laugh at their lazy attempt to do the traditional manly advertisement.

A little too late. Consumers understand and remember when they are being attacked. Maybe next time, don't hire a director with a history of disdain for a certain gender

[–]mgtow-zen 83 points84 points85 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I found that pro military ad to be the funniest example of just how incompetent Procter and gamble really are.

In one commercial "toxic masculinity is the scourge of males everywhere"

On the next commercial, let's celebrate the military industrial complex which has infiltrated Hollywood and made a kind of "men have no emotions" culture.

If there were something called "toxic masculinity" you can blame it on the military.

And here's Procter and gamble, celebrating it.

What a bunch of goons they are.

[–]MasonTaylor22 23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

P&G fails at pandering and Virtue Signalling

[+][deleted] -19 points-18 points-17 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Found the dumbass who knows jackshit about the military but insists on opening his cockholster about it anyway.

[–]Kill_Frosty 22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Crazy how brainwashed some American's are about the military. Like holy damn they have you guys trained to attack anyone who questions their trillions of dollars of revenue.

[–][deleted] 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You are an idiot. Have you served? Rhetorical question, the answer is no. I'm in the military you fucking brainlet, you don't lose all sense of individuality, you learn to operate as a group and identify with a group. That doesn't mean you become an insect. That doesn't mean you lose all sense of self. Jesus, where the fuck did you even hear that pithy little saying? I've found more support for my depression, which I've dealt with my entire life, among my peers in the military than I ever did in my own goddamn family, and certainly than among my civilian friends. Because here, everyone knows hardship. Everyone knows isolation and misery. Everyone experiences hopelessness at some point. And so everyone understands. They listen. What they don't do is rub your back and pretend like sobbing is a solution, or that misery and pain is an excuse to shirk your duties. You learn to operate past it and make do. Christ, you fucking civilian braindead morons. Watch Platoon and The Hurt Locker and suddenly you think you know everything. Go huff paint jackass.

[–][deleted] 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Dumbass, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. Slop? What slop? Have you eaten it? It's not gourmet, but outside of a long deployment, it's about the quality of any cafeteria food. Once in a blue moon visitation with my family? Outside of operational commitments, ie deployment for the most part, you can take leave to go anywhere you want mostly whenever you want, provided you have the leave days. Which you accrue at 2 and a half days a month. But you say once in a blue moon visitation.

Fuck, me, you are ignorant. This is not criticism, this is pompous self-righteous fuckery, which is irritating enough by itself... except you have said not one, NOT ONE, informed opinion. But goddamn if you aren't sure of yourself anyway! "Once in a blue moon visitation". I've seen my family twice just this year so far, my father once more than that, and they all live out of state. The leave policy in the military is more generous than many civilian jobs. Yes, it is because I'm currently stationed in the United States and not deployed. But in those cases where I WAS deployed, and I couldn't go stateside, IT WAS BECAUSE OPERATIONAL CONSTRAINTS PREVENTED ME, NOT SOME DIABOLICAL PLOT TO ENSURE MY HUMANITY DIDN'T SURFACE.

Christ in heaven, I would not expect this kind of shit outside of a leftist echo chamber, certainly not in a men's rights sub. Jesus. Lady, dude, whoever you are, you are speaking purely in caricatures, and they are caricatures used to demonize veterans and the military as a whole. That is why, added to the just generally maddening WRONGNESS of everything you have stated, I'm so irate.

[–]agiganticpanda 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruit_training

Dude, literally army training is a purposeful reprogramming from civilian life and often enforces what are considered traditional expectations of masculinity. It's not some "leftist echo chamber" it's literally what those in charge say it is and it's something that's ramped up in modern times - it wasn't always like that either.

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[–]RoryTate 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't read that comment in the same unforgivingly negative way you do. People can respect those who serve, and the sacrifices they make, yet at the same time question the unfathomable volume of money, the amount of psychological damage and dehumanization that training and fighting causes, the continued disposability of men, etc, that occurs by way of the military. It is not so sacrosanct that it cannot be criticized.

[–]dontpet 87 points88 points89 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let's bloody hope so.

I'd also hope it serves as an example to others.

[–]furchfur[S] 52 points53 points54 points 6 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

Do not believe the waffle regarding currency movements (from 14 years ago) in truth men are not buying Gillette products anymore! The auditors have instructed them to make the write down!

From the results:

Goodwill and Intangibles Impairment

During the April-June 2019 quarter, the Company took a non-cash, after-tax charge of $8 billion to adjust U.S. Dollar carrying values of goodwill and trade name intangible assets in the Gillette Shave Care business. The charge is a non-core EPS adjustment of $3.02 in the quarter and $3.03 in fiscal year 2019. (Refer to Exhibit 1: Non-GAAP Measures for the full reconciliation of GAAP to Core EPS results for the quarter and fiscal year.) The impairment was due primarily to significant currency devaluations that have occurred since carrying values were initially established nearly 14 years ago in 2005.

The Shave Care business has also been negatively impacted by market contraction of blades and razors, primarily in developed markets, due to lower shaving frequency, and competitive activities.

P&G said the Shave Care business has consistently generated significant earnings and cash flow and continues to be a strategic business with attractive earnings, cash flow and growth opportunities.

[–]fgrsentinel 53 points54 points55 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I assume this is a report to their investors. Saying that it's because of inflation or whatever looks nicer to their investors than "we fucked up, alienated the vast majority of Gillette's consumers, they've stopped buying Gillette products almost entirely, and we refuse to apologize or backpedal because this response from our customers shows that our ad was clearly right."

[–]iseehot 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The impairment was due primarily to significant currency devaluations that have occurred since carrying values were initially established nearly 14 years ago in 2005.

So, they decide after 14 years to do a large write down in one quarter.

The Shave Care business has also been negatively impacted by market contraction of blades and razors, primarily in developed markets, due to lower shaving frequency, and competitive activities. and shooting the company in the foot.

FTFY

[–]StrawhatMucci 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Does the title mean they lost 8 billion dollars in profit?

[–]furchfur[S] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It means that if they had there time again they would not have bought Gillette for $57 billion.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4214485.stm

Basically the investment they made has had a permanent fall in value in their opinion. So writing down the investment.

But yes they have potentially lost 8 billion if they cannot sell Gillette for more than the value in the accounts.

[–]Aaod 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The Shave Care business has also been negatively impacted by market contraction of blades and razors, primarily in developed markets, due to lower shaving frequency, and competitive activities.

I mean it could be both Dorco for example is shutting down their website.

[–]TheDrunkSemaphore 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I assume they'll still sell on amazon? I used to buy on dorco website but amazon was cheaper and easier

[–]Aaod 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah still sell on Amazon but no coupons/discounts which is how I always bought. If it wasn't 40%+ off I didn't buy it.

[–]Mythandros 42 points43 points44 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

A good example of "get woke, go broke"

[–]chadwickofwv 17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not until they go out of business, so let's make sure that happens.

[–]Mythandros 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed.

[–]GanymedeCosmos28 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminism, Not good for business.

[–]Chesterfield_McNabb 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get woke go broke.

[–]furchfur[S] 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

P&G's Gillette razor business is not for sale even after $8 billion write-down

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/p-gs-gillette-razor-business-is-not-for-sale-even-after-8-billion-writedown-122137193.html

[–]SouthButNotOut 24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

P&G has sought to stem market share losses by lowering prices on its razors and highlighting product quality in TV commercials.

I would say that’s the one thing they didn’t do in their commercials...

[–]kaszak696 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because there is nothing to show. Gillette is just overpriced junk with silly gimmicks.

[–]pwnzusauce 29 points30 points31 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Keep voting with your wallets gentlemen, let them lose more money-no one pushed them to attack males and masculinity.

Gillette ads were very good in the past https://youtu.be/mgzHu3pxgG8

But like all other progressive companies and franchises they decided to get woke, we simply let them go broke.

[–]mastermomo16 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn dude... I see nothing but positivity in this. I can also see crazy feminists today somehow trying to equate this to "toxic masculinity".

[–]OhCanada424 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look an ad from before the feminist movement that is respectful to men ANNND dosent objectify women! Im blown away at this actually.... it hurts to watch this then just look at the world around us today, how did things get so fucked up.

[–]Criket 39 points40 points41 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The vice-president is a male hater feminist. I will look back at their products when she get fired

[–]chadwickofwv 25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I will not. I have no forgiveness when it comes to corporations.

[–]Ashenox 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

They aren't people they don't change for good reasons so your logic is sound AF.

[–]JoelKeys 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Even if they do change for good reasons, why support a company like that when there are plenty of other businesses who you could use. The glory of a buyers market.

[–]Ashenox 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's the thing Companies never change for a truly Good reason. They change in order to bring in more profit.

[–]Not_An_Ambulance 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, I view profit as a neutral reason. Horrible things might be profitable, but along with padding speculative investors pockets you also fund retirees and jobs, which I consider positive social effects.

[–]JoelKeys -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure I agree with you there. McDonald's got rid of plastic straws to protect the environment. They didn't need to. It sure as heck didn't bring them in more profit. I don't know anyone who uses them. If anything they cost McDonald's more than they gained from it.

I think if we expect an entire overhaul of their whole ethos just because a new president steps in or whatever, we are being overly optimistic, however, I also think it's a bit nihilistic to suggest that companies never change for a good reason.

[–]Ahielia 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I will look back at their products when she get fired

Just because 1 person is fired doesn't mean the company will "go back to the way it was".

[–]empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They’re supposed to earn your trust back with good values. You don’t throw it back when the toxic element is seemingly gone.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope that's right.

[–]odiegh 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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fuck you gillette!

[–]mondo135 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

wheeze AHAHAHAHAAAHHA!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I used to buy expensive razors from Gillette. They were convenient and I could easily afford them. After that ad, I switched to a double-edge safety razor... it's awesome and I'm much happier.

Get Woke, Go Broke.

[–]Jeffb957 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Shocking misandry aside, Gillette is to shaving what McDonald's is to fine cuisine.

I switched to a double edged safety razor and never looked back

[–]JcbAzPx 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's more like what Red Lobster is to fine dining. They try to hide their poor quality by having higher prices to make you think it's better than it is.

[–]Tanonymay 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or Apple

[–]Jordandavis7 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aside from the man hating bs ad they put out this year, Gillette razors are insanely overpriced. INSANELY. I’ll never buy them for a couple reasons, 1 as I mentioned before, they are overpriced, instead I get them from Dollar Shave Club or whatever the other one is (I have my wife order them) Secondly, their bullshit man hating advertisements, I will never give a company like that my hard earned money, I hope they fail

[–]EricAllonde 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good. It's a start. Keep it up, let's drive this man-hating business into the ground.

[–]RogerWebb 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

I imagine if a rapper took the stage and started yelling the n-word at the crowd, that their sales would decline as well. It turns out that telling your customer base that they're a bunch of shit-heads isn't a great sales pitch.

Edit: Grammar error

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I imagine if a rapper took the stage and started yelling the n-word at the crowd

I take it you haven't been to many rap concerts?

[–]RogerWebb 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Context, and the ending, make a world of difference. But yeah, looking at it, I see your point.

[–]RedPillAlphaBigCock 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I will never touch their products again however I don't think this is the reason - reality is so few of us have seen the garbage ad

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism and the SJW mentality are shit tests. All companies have to do is keep their mouths shut and not play their game. No need to pander to the crazies and whacos.

And more importantly do not do business with Feminist or SJW companies or individuals.

[–]jeff_the_nurse 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They’re desperate lmao. Keep up the boycott, my fellow MRAs! This is some nice work we’re doing!

[–]HobbyProjectHunter 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is such a vindication for many of us on this sub!! Collective victory :)

It's not okay to alienate one your biggest group of customers and not have consequences.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These shitty feminists need to fuck off and die.

[–]Tailtappin 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, I won't buy Gillette razors and other grooming accessories but other than that I don't know what else they sell and I couldn't be bothered to investigate.

Before we take credit for their losses as some sort of grand victory for men's rights, don't forget that the trade war with China is likely one of the biggest factors in their sales and earnings numbers.

[–]Ashenox 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tbh if you care just don't buy Gillette marked products. That's the extent of it. Easy to see so easy to just move on.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmmm, turns out the markets work. Who knew?

[–]bkrugby78 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If anything, I don't know if this had a factor or not, but they finally started doing similar to Dollar Shave etc by lowering the price quite a bit. This was my biggest caveat though their ad definitely rubbed me the wrong way.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't understand that Gillette thing can someone explain what happened?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They made an ad, ostensibly with the idea of combatting the less scrupulous men in society, but in doing so they implied the majority were like that, and that simply wanting to flirt with a woman was toxic, as well as basically parroting the "toxic masculinity" narrative.

People got pissed.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah thanks

[–]Next_Flow1 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This really isn't necessarily the case, men are growing beards these days, dollar shave club stole a market share, its not a good market to be in right now

[–]Blutarg 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whatever the cause, it's good news.

[–]bobbyb503 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get Woke, Go Broke

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I switched to Harry's razors.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Friendly reminder that Harrys is just as bad. Check their website out.

[–]TitsAndWhiskey 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“Every year, we set aside 1% of sales for organizations that are redefining masculinity for the better.”

Yeah no thanks.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok, I'll look into it.

Yeah, I'll be dropping Harry's too. I sent them an email so they know why. Here it is:

After Gillette’s anti-male ad I switched to your razors but today I found out that your company also has an anti-male (masculinity is bad) point of view so I won’t be buying your razors anymore either. This kind of thing is no longer acceptable.

I forgot to include their quote ('Every year, we set aside 1% of sales for organizations that are redefining masculinity for the better.') in the email but I am sure they can figure it out or maybe they read reddit.

Think I'll try the Dollar Shave Club if they don't hate men and masculinity.

[–]MultiPass21 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

While the number is not necessarily the sole indicator of success, P&G’s share price is at an all-time high right now.

While there may be some impact on the Gillette business, there’s no reason to think they’re sweating this boycott and its ability to sustain.

To be clear, I’m not saying I’m pro P&G, only that we should avoid overstating the impact of their awful marketing decision in their Gillette division.

[–]Darkrush85 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Their share might be high but if people continue to boycott them their sales will go down and there is only so long until bad sales figures upset share holders as their shares may start falling too.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fight continues for us

[–]SheroQuinkan 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Can someone link me the ad?

[–]Hanginon 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here.

[–]turnipduck 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fantastic, the Gillette campaign in particular was disgusting

[–]MasonTaylor22 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No P&G in my house.

[–]peepeeandpoopooman 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Boycott Gilette!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And P&G

[–]Male_Positive 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool :-) I am still boycotting Gillette. I have been clean for most of a year now and you should be too.

[–]Dharmsara 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s what you get for not understanding your target demographic

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The free market works.

[–]manthedan20 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

good work boys. fuck modern feminism. it used to be pro woman but it turned into man hating.

[–]BlackEron 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, there's a big boycott

[–]Dutch_Windmill 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's what they get for shitting on and insulting most of their consumer base. God I love capitalism

[–]icedragon71 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get Woke, Go Broke.

[–]Rockbottom503 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I stopped buying Gillette after seeing that shit show of an advert

[–]Wisemanner 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

WHO has taken an $8 billion write-down? Sorry, I have never heard of that company.

[–]furchfur[S] 25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Procter & Gamble owns Gillette. Gillette is a brand and a company. They bought it in 2005.

It has a value in the financial statements to recognise their purchase. This value sits their in the Balance sheet until they sell the company or it no longer has a value. It is an investment made by P&G when they bought Gillette.

It has been agreed with the auditors that between 30 June 2018 and 30 June 2019 the value of Gillette has fallen by $8 billion.

Hence the carrying value has been reduced by $8 billion.

The Gillette brand has been damaged and permanently impaired so a write down has been agreed. P&G investment in Gillette is now worth $8 billion less.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think that was sarcasm... edit: still thanks for the explanation.

Not buying P&G products since the ad! Uphold the shunning!

[–]Wisemanner 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was!

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Umm you’re totally wrong, did you read the report?

I’d love it if this were true, but it’s just BS. They did fine even with the significant losses due to foreign exchange.

Sales were up.....

Need to rally the troops around fact, not fiction or we all look like idiots!

[–]Mr_Shad0w 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good. Their products suck too.

[–]sonofsuperman1983 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think we should look at all Procter and Gamble products. Nothing is stopping them from rebranding.

[–]Alfa229 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get woke, go broke.

[–]sonofsuperman1983 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

procter and gamble itself are still climbing

[–]NecroHexr 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

surprised pikachu

[–]havetheconch 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I doubt the advert made that much of an impact. The press release indicates the write down was because of “market contraction of blades and razors” because of “lower shaving frequency” (ie more guys wearing facial hair - true) and “competitive activities” (Dollar Shave Club, Harry’s, etc).

[–]DuneBug 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've seen different stats on this but I find it hard to believe they haven't taken a huge hit. I lean liberal and I was/am still pretty pissed.

[–]pn1159 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope that is the reason and I hope it continues.

[–]CougarKiller 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes ... Glad I am not alone on this

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Since then I’m using BIC and so far so good. Fuck Gillette, old spice and etc

[–]azazelcrowley 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It may well be that the desperation caused the gamble rather than visa versa, but it demonstrates that it didnt work at least.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Stopped buying any of their products the day I saw that advert, started buying Harry’s razors, and told all my friends. I’ll never ever purchase anything they make again.

[–]_manve__ 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Harry's is the same shit. They donate to fight "toxic masculinity".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You’re kidding me! Really? Any recommendations on a sane brand, or shall I just grow whiskers and be done with it?

[–]_manve__ 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I switched to "Prince 6" from ALDI. Good quality US blades and 4 times cheaper than Gillette.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks

[–]Halafax 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just to clarify, I've stopped using Gillette and P&G.

But I strongly suspect we're looking at the cause of the "men are shit" commercial, not the effect of it. Corporate knows long before they have to announce earnings how things are going. They were falling far short, and decided "Why not appeal to women?" They buy the lion's share of home goods, and they are easily flattered by the "men are stupid" trope. Witness the never ending parade of retarded dads on TV.

[–]gdobssor 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn’t like P and G anyway because they test on animals. Didn’t realize they own Gillettte.

[–]Jackson2615 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Go woke ...….go broke!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Very good timing, I am running out of Gilette razors and was looking for a new one. Any recommendations (that are available in the EU)?

[–]Red_Pill_Fanatic 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Until there is an apology (which will never happen ever), it's not just Gillette, but all P&G brands that should be boycotted.

They (the larger 'they' in the corporate world) won't stop until the "star" company in virtue signalling makes it clear that it's not a profitable endeavor.

Men haven't fought back... until now.

[–]seandc33 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only 8 Billion?

[–][deleted] 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ZimbaZumba 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You honestly just saw it as that? If so you are astoundingly naïve.

[+][deleted] -19 points-18 points-17 points 6 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Gillete commercial "Some guys are pieces of shits... If you see a guy being a piece of shit let him know..''.. How is that insulting? Could it be some of you are pieces of shit? Didnt bother me because im not a piece of shit...

[–]Double_A_92 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Because they weren't necessarily pieces of shits. Is telling somebody to smile so bad? Is talking to a women on the street bad? Is wrestling with other boys bad? Is BBQing bad? Is ignoring some employee during a meeting so terrible?

[–]Gray32339 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those darn barbecuers and their toxic masculinity!

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Is catcalling ok? no.. Is assuming everyone who crosses your path in life is there for you( this isnt an rpg)? is having two little boys hitting each other instead of playing trucks or barbies... Is down playing people because of their sex wrong ok? I am polish. Our women are our peers.. They are equal to us.. They are not sandwich makers or baby makers... America needed laws 100 years(suffrage) ago to tell men they arent property and have rights.... Am i surprised conservatives and neoliberals got upset because it shows the shady side of western civilization?

[–]Double_A_92 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Is catcalling ok?

It's a stupid, unpolite way of telling a woman that you find her attractive. Probably doesn't cause much harm unless you are super sensitive.

is having two little boys hitting each other instead of playing trucks or barbies...

If they don't hurt eachother and they both agreed to it, yes?

Is down playing people because of their sex wrong ok?

Probably not... but everybody gets down played if they accept that, it's not just a gender thing.

They are equal to us.. They are not sandwich makers or baby makers...

Nice strawman...

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Says you....

A guy in mens rights... A circle jerk of conservatives and neoloberals who pat each other back for calling out 3rd generation feminism...

Let me guess youe mother wasnt equipped to raise you properly?

Strawman? Hiatory and facts... Sorry your history makes you look like this country needs to be reminded not to be trash..

[–]Double_A_92 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

Sorry what? It sounded like you wanted to throw insults at me, but you couldn't finish forming any coherent thought.

Also here to be constructive: A "strawman argument" is when you say that your opponent supports something that they don't actually. E.g. you said "Women are not sandwich or baby makers", which is easy for you to argument against, and win a fake point. But we never said that, especially not in this thread or in anyway related to the Gillette ad.

Another example maybe from your point of view would by if I said. "Feminists what to kill all men! But men don't deserve to be killed. How can you support feminism?!" Seems like I got a point there, right? But feminists probably don't want to literally kill all men.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

You are attacking a video because it insults your pathetic existence.... Points? Maybe you pathetic life you value some devate points.. You lost when that video triggered you...

[–]Double_A_92 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

Lets make videos about women being sluts, and black people being thugs then... Nobody should feel insulted then, right?

Don't you people have any integrity at all? Everyone should have safe-zones for everything, except people that you don't like.

(Also points as in "to have a point".)

(Also also, you are triggered by people being triggered... Ironic.)

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Conservatives had safe zones for years...

Me having an opinoon a bout your useless self.. Isnt triggered. Im holding you accountable. If yiur oarents werent trash and raised you to have a spine. You would know the difference.

[–]Double_A_92 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Oh the left and their art of replacing arguments with insults :D

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Let a company make an ad where they tell black people to be less toxic (in the same manner) and then tell me that isn't racist.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How bout they make a video about white people being less toxic... Ill clap.... We have too much white trash in america... Majority of conservatives are toxic..

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nice trolling, you got me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wait.. So systemic racism is ok by whiteys?.. Burning down black walstreet was ok, limiting rights to just 50 years ago was ok... Lynching black boys for hiting on white girls was ok? Closing urban centers and dropping creating crack epidemic for polticial gain is ok.... But damn lopk at those people struggling.... Lets make a video about their forced existence..... Im a polish immigrant.. Im white... The reality is... We just need to correct conswrvatives... People who believe in fairy tales... If they cant be educated then they should be erradicated.... Pick one

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, all of that was ok, obviously

/s

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