The most exhaustive incel study to date, releases its findings...

Diligent_Divide_4978 · 2024-03-04T11:56:41+00:00

The research has been consistent for over a decade, and I wish this study, while generally accurate (if overly simplistic), would’ve included some of these following established findings in the lit review as well instead of leaning on “misogyny” as one of its planks:

Inkwells are statistically less violent than average men.

Men rate women on a normal distribution while women rate 80% of men as below average.

63% of young men are single. 66% of young women are in relationships, but the average age gap in relationships is only 2.2 years.

50% of male university students are virgins.

The bottom 95% of men report having less sex while the top 5% report having much more.

83% of high-functioning autistic men are permavirgins.

Facial attractiveness is heavily correlated with female arousal.

70% of women would avoid men for being unattractive while only 31% of men would avoid women for being unattractive.

90% of women of all other races reject Asian and Indian men on sight. 40% of Asian women reject Asian men.

Men of all races heavily prefer women of their own race. Women of all races except for black heavily prefer white men. In the minds of many women, a man’s attractiveness is made or broken by JBW or the lack thereof.

Women of all races except for black would rather date short white men than tall ethnic men.

95% of women would reject a man simply for being 5’5.

Height is a statistically more important factor in reproduction than hard work and status.

Lonely men need to know that it’s not their fault.

Never blame yourself for your genetics.

springy · 2024-03-04T16:37:13+00:00

Toxic feminists love to call men who disagree with them "incels". I realised that they consider it a terrible insult. So, have begun responding to toxic feminists by writing "looks like we just found a female incel", and they sure don't like it.

Scarce12 · 2024-03-04T12:39:20+00:00

So right now, Reddit admins are looking pretty stupid. By the looks of the study, this site is more likely contributing to male suicide then anything.

Vova_Vist · 2024-03-04T13:00:39+00:00

modern meaning of word misogyny = anything women don't like

TheTinMenBlog · 2024-03-04T11:29:54+00:00

Like most things related to mens mental heath, the incel crisis continues to be manipulated, exploited and deliberately misunderstood by the usual in-group gang of noble social justice warriors.

Politicians, the media, celebrities, VAWG ‘experts’, and your sassy neighbourhood feminist all pile on; cultivating yet more division, more toxicity, and more ignorance.

Meanwhile, those who claim to be advocates of mens mental health, wash their hands of the incel crisis entirely.

Waving away the very problem they want to help solve, by virtue of it not being quite cool enough for them.

You see… information, data, and research are seldom a citizen of planet outrage, as the majority of people here prefer to base their opinions on the obtuse ideas of angry instagram know-it-alls, and hard headed narcissistic nitwits.

And so the most exhaustive study ever done into incels, released just weeks ago, slips below the radar. Its ground breaking findings not high enough on the outrage-ometer to tweak or trigger the interest of our so-called ‘advocates’.

The report, outlined in this post, tells us what we all need to know, but sadly few will probably read…That incels are an ethnically and politically diverse group of lonely men, with a large overrepresentation of neurodivergency, living with terrible mental heath, many of whom have turned against women.

Not primarily a counter-terrorism crisis, but a mental health one; that we simply do not care enough to try and solve, and would rather ladle shame and vilification onto.

For if you try and put incels next to any kind of plea for compassion, prepare to be bazooka’d by your friendly and virtuous neighbourhood ‘mental health advocate’.

It makes no sense.

So where has everyone gone when it comes to the very extreme end of the men’s mental health crisis?

Will we ever dig into what’s behind the incel phenomenon?And will we continue to talk about men, rather than talk to them?

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Full study

Images by Ales Nesetril

AlexanderKrasnikov · 2024-03-04T12:25:56+00:00

Okay, but question No. 1: Who are the incels? Are they people who just can't find a girlfriend? People who besides that feel anger and frustration toward the world? Or is it simply a slur?

From what I've seen it seems like 60% of men before 30 can't find a girlfriend. Does that mean that 60% of young men are incels? If so, cases of misogynistic violence are rather damn rare. So what's it like?

BiggerMouthBass · 2024-03-04T18:03:11+00:00

Disliking modern feminism = misogyny. Got it. Now define incel. It stands for involuntary celibate. Incels are not men who go their own way (MGTOW).

randomusername1934 · 2024-03-04T11:59:33+00:00

Why would they want a study, even if they commissioned it, or to understand the phenomenon? They've got a perfectly good political boogieman, why sully that with something as tawdry as reality when they can still use it?

ChocolateNo484 · 2024-03-04T12:56:17+00:00

Participants felt high levels of misogyny ? What does that mean (slide 8).

ConciousnessEmerging · 2024-03-04T20:16:59+00:00

It's really interesting how 42% of incels are POCs.

Isn't that higher than the percent of POCs in the general population?

2024-03-04T12:00:43+00:00

thats all just literally me

Mobile_Lumpy · 2024-03-04T16:26:17+00:00

This just reaffirms what I've been saying about actual incels. They are much more suicidal than homicidal. How do I know? Because I am one, and knows how it feels wanting to end it every time I wake up. There is really a very small group of incels that place their frustrations on others, most of our frustrations and hatred is directed inward against ourselves.

wordjedi · 2024-03-04T17:43:19+00:00

ha ha incels center-left not "alt right" and also almost half PoCs

Gosh, how do you make a villain out of people you're supposed to support, feminists? I always thought of incel hate as kicking somebody when he's down, like hating homeless people for being poor.

Really in my opinion the reason for the incel boom is society never figured out anything to replace the old social norm of most people marrying in their late teens or early twenties. Women may not have liked marrying somebody as average looking as themselves, but that's how it shook out when most people had to find somebody to marry in their town or neighborhood.

We're doing a crazy social and genetic experiment having single mothers be normalized, and a small handful of charismatic men, aka "chads", father a disproportionate percent of children and then not be there to parent them. Even if women hook up with many strangers then marry a high income man later to have children with, all those hookups wear down their ability to love and increase the odds of divorce. Oh well, good luck with that ladies ¯\(ツ)/¯

Garfish16 · 2024-03-04T13:42:37+00:00

I'm always curious how they define incel in studies like these.

Rasollia · 2024-03-04T13:46:49+00:00

People who insult incels are actually perpetuating toxic masculinity. It says more about them than the person they are insulting.

I consider being called an incel a compliment.

HotwheelsJackOfficia · 2024-03-04T21:55:43+00:00

"I'm going to pretend I didn't see that" -- literally all of society. It's easier to say "ugly man bad" without asking yourself why you think they're bad.

Lonewolf_087 · 2024-03-05T00:36:35+00:00

Autism yes I believe it but autism has been around for ages is it just now women have decided to throw people on the spectrum out because they aren’t measuring up? My single #1 biggest belief as to why incel things are on the rise is that women, particularly younger aged women, selectively treat a smaller percentage of the male population with a degree of interest and are willing to spend time interacting with those men. Those who are outside of that are ignored or brushed away. It’s the same issues faced by children who are chosen last in gym no different except this behavior is being done by grown adults.

The sad part is there is no solution to this. This is a mindset that has been developed as a consequence of cultural values and how women have been raised and what they have been taught. Women have been placed upon a pedestal not unlike a queen bee and our society is going the way of the hive. We need a level platform where neither men nor women have an upper hand one where their actions lead to consequences. Both genders are required to act fairly towards each other, are required to include each other.

NCC-1701-1 · 2024-03-04T13:17:31+00:00

Thanks for the link, no time to read it all now but I do think the major conclusions should not be a surprise but unfortunately they are. The problem for the feminists is that with the ever shrinking pool of men to blame they will have to lie and invent somebody if the incels cannot be blamed. The whole idea is stupid anyway- blame men who are NOT interacting with women for some of women's problems. Not that anybody should expect feminists to be reasonable but it seems like a lot of men fall for the bullshit too. Glad somebody finally has some data, incels are NOT right wing either as I suspected. Right wing men tend to get laid more in my experience because they have more of the masculine traits that women like but won't admit they like, left wingers call things like weightlifting toxic for instance but the ladies love athletic bodies.

I am very concerned about young men, in fact this is the majority of young men. It affects all of us if this important cohort continues to be demonized and ignored. I already hate how feminists ignore the fact that somebody has to work to keep this place going but that is far different if the guys who make this place work actually stop giving a shit. That is why I promote working hard but to not give a shit about marriage and most women.

Let me add a few things as someone who has been active in online dating as both normal dating and a sugar daddy. The 10% number is too large, all the swipe and messaging stats show it's the top 7% or even lower. Online dating apps, instagram, feminism, and now sugar dating have radically altered the pair bonding strategies of women and are leaving the majority of young men in the sexual desert. Womens natural hypergamy combined with the huge choices online are perfect for each other. The top 7% of men (looks, money, status) bang a LOT of women, why not after all. They will hook up with but never marry any non-fat woman who shows interest. Women don't mind sharing these men, however they bitch like hell when that same guy won't marry them (go figure). They all think that is their league, which is the origin of the top 10% thing, and the 80% of men are below average looks thing.

Sugar dating and things like only fans should not be ignored as it is very popular with good looking women. Bad looking women can't make a go of it and complain about the good looking women, lol. Once they get hooked on cash it's like a drug and it's growing every year. Hard to get good numbers and I can try and dig but evidence points towards 10-30% of college students at many universities are sugar babies or sell something like feet pics or whatever. That's on us guys I am afraid that I am guilty, sugar dated several college women and I was simply amazed at how well women can act like they really like me, scary good in fact. Maybe men can too, but no way in hell would I marry most of those ladies and they told me point blank they are going to lie about their past to any future partner. A lot of them even had boyfriends already. Even worse were the single moms who had babies with loser men and then shop around for somebody to rush in to save their financial situation. I didn't mind dating as I like kids but come on, I am not going raise your kids.

The race thing was already well known, black women have it the hardest of all but they hate white men probably because black men want white women too, lol. Height factor is definitely real and well known. But still remember it's the top white men, not all white men. All you have to do is be Henry Cavill, it's simple guys.

If you don't have the looks to be swiped right, or the money to be a sugar daddy then your choices are very small. It's not your fault and whatever you do, DO NOT GET MARRIED.

mrmensplights · 2024-03-05T00:49:00+00:00

The fact that anyone ever thought "counter terrorism" when thinking about incels just shows how brutal, uncaring, savage, and oppressive society is towards men.

StrikingFig1671 · 2024-03-04T17:25:51+00:00

When america learns that this is how china destroyed it, its gonna be real surprised.

Its also a Palpatine level plan that will take like three generations before our dopamine is gone and men no where to be found.

Check out how they promote masculine content on their closed internet and ban faminists left and right, and how much feminisim is promoted in american tiktok.

"When women are in power, evil happens."

2024-03-04T20:24:32+00:00

Do you honestly think those feminists care about what incels embody? Feminists just want an enemy, in fact they'd be disappointed if the "incel" turned out NOT to be the vile enemy.

tricepsmultiplicator · 2024-03-04T15:08:46+00:00

Where are the studies on femcels? These embittered feminists deserve a research grant and pretty PowerPoint graphics too.

2024-03-04T15:37:04+00:00

Shoot, anytime I promote MGTOW on social media there's a half dozen triggered fembots that call me an incel. I don't fall into any of the categories listed in this slide show. I've simply experienced enough modern western women and have made my own conclusions.

EpicHajsownik · 2024-03-04T20:34:19+00:00

People dont realize hwo much a woman could help a man by Just showing affection to them

MC1781 · 2024-03-04T23:56:11+00:00

Hahaha! The left is going to have a meltdown when they read the 2nd to last one

Ozwald_A · 2024-03-05T00:44:21+00:00

Pretty sure labelling us as Incels doesn’t help our mental health situation.

Imaginary_Score1980 · 2024-03-05T04:09:17+00:00

The elephant in the room is why are there so many incels in the first place for it to be a phenomenon today. The experts never seem to address this.

Former-Dragonfly2226 · 2024-03-04T18:39:18+00:00

The term ‘incel’ needs to be seen as a hate term. Most of us are volcels (voluntary celibates), or just choose to be single. ‘Incel’ is judgemental and writes a false narrative.

FF7Remake_fark · 2024-03-04T19:04:54+00:00

There's a lot of incels out there that are angry and promote views that are violent. But what we see online is a very loud subsection. People posting promotion of violence or hatred need to be shut down. But lumping in people pointing out issues with how men are treated in society is exceptional harmful and should be shut down, too.

It sucks to say it, because feminism did incredible work historically, but the movement has been hijacked and turned into a convoluted version of female supremacy. Instead of empowering women by saying "you should never let yourself be restricted by your sex", it's become a very hateful movement that fights against rights for men and fights in favor of retaining the benefits women enjoyed in a society with a dominant male patriarchy.

The craziest part is at this point, main stream feminism claims to be intersectional, but the absolute vitriol pointed at men is primarily damaging to minorities, people with disabilities, and other marginalized subgroups that men belong to.

In short, I'm really fucking tired of incels being represented as a pure hate group, and not a symptom of legitimate issues and lack of mental health resources.

Joneboy39 · 2024-03-04T20:12:47+00:00

who honestly would self describe as an incel other than the people described in the report tho?

Randomuser223556 · 2024-03-05T01:42:37+00:00

I am a KHHV Truecel. Any time I put forth counters to the ADL misinformation about incels I get shouted down or banned. I’d expect it in feminist groups and so on but the largest shouters are men, specifically the likes of Rollo Tomassi redpill gurus.

vanislandbroyo · 2024-03-05T02:18:13+00:00

Incels can be male or female but in reality with should not be calling people incels. Period.

Wrong_Composer169 · 2024-03-05T04:20:54+00:00

Im best friends with a dude thats in like the top 5% of men and hes extremely misogynistic even admitting it himself.

Every ugly guy that ive met has been nicer than my friend and I have never heard them say anything bad about women unlike my attractive friend.

Ninjurk · 2024-03-05T05:37:20+00:00

Interesting and makes sense.

Cute-Tomato-9721 · 2024-03-04T22:07:28+00:00

Feminism is def responsible for a lot of issues. Call me sexist or whatever…but women participating in politics has been a disaster. “Feelings” shouldn’t determine our political policy. I wouldn’t call myself an incel or mgtow. Giving power to women is like giving full power to a child…who is mainly responsible for pushing gender theory/transgenderism…women lol they let a 4 year old determine life changing decisions. This isn’t men.

FedUM · 2024-03-05T02:09:00+00:00

I think it would be really interesting to see this study done with a focus on gay men. We could then compare the results. I bet they would be somewhat similar. Not everybody wants to act like women are better than men.

Also, it's hilarious that there's no agreed-upon female equivalent of “incel” despite probably 50% of women fitting that description.

barkmagician · 2024-03-05T03:02:13+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1aj433n/incels\_myth\_vs\_reality/

SkGuarnieri · 2024-03-05T05:25:00+00:00

No surprise whatsoever for anyone that has been a part of Incel spaces for any extended amount of time, both as Incels and not. (As long as you've approached it in good faith)

Sharp-Mousse-7994 · 2024-03-05T07:03:21+00:00

What the fuck is an incel?

saito200 · 2024-03-05T16:04:40+00:00

the cure to all men problems is to build muscle imo

sniper1905 · 2024-04-11T03:42:03+00:00

Heartbreaking stuff.

themagicklizard · 2024-03-05T01:11:20+00:00

1/3 sounds kind of low tbh. I bet that’s something they were afraid to admit during the study.

TheTinMenBlog · 2024-03-05T09:26:20+00:00

Good I only would reject a muslim man because they are invading my country. I am white myself and not a fan of race mixing. Otherwise the right wingers hardly acknowledge incels problems here as well. I more than often heard from rightwingers that incels should "man-up" and they are often hated for their consume ect. Not the military tall type. Leftis on the other side are calling them toxic.

2024-03-05T05:15:56+00:00

I'm not an incel, I've been been in a relationship for 14 years. I am autistic though and way more men tell me I'm faking it or it's a made up disorder than women. Women are at least more receptive and understanding about mental health. I'd really love to see that change in the man community. Mental health is important and it's fucking bullshit to put someone down or tell them they're faking it. You don't know them and you don't know how their brain works.

Edit: downvoted. Point proven lol.

hotpotato128 · 2024-03-05T04:31:13+00:00

As a virgin myself, I have no sympathy for most incels. I think they make all virgins look bad. According to Professor Sam Vaknin, most incels are covert narcissists. He said that in this video, around the 1:09:00 mark. Based on social media comments, I think he's right.

I knew one incel. He was disabled from a car accident. He was one of the nicest guys I've met. However, most incels on social media are just trying to get sympathy and attention (narcissistic supply). Most incels don't want sex. They want narcissistic supply.

It's interesting to me that Dr. Vaknin and William Costello's research points in the same direction. Narcissists become depressed when they don't get narcissistic supply.

Capital-Corner7585 · 2024-03-04T21:16:21+00:00

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