[FR] My Main Event

ChokingDownRP · 2019-05-16T03:12:04+00:00

Is this actually a main event, or just him overtly stating what he wants sexually (maybe even more like negotiating desire)? I would think a proper main event, by a high value man lays out the vision and a full range of expectations for many aspects of life... Not crying to her that she doesn't make you feel wanted.

It sounds like you have decent frame to be able to calmly talk through your issue and tell her what you want... But I had this same conversation as a blue pill beta faggot when I told my wife that I wanted more sex... Because I do so much nice stuff for her. FUCK that was lame, but sounds a bit like this talk, only delivered with more confidence and knowing a bit of Kung Fu.

johneyapocalypse · 2019-05-16T00:09:23+00:00

You want your wife to lust for you.
Same thing may happen after 20 years with anyone else.
The thing she said need not have been rehearsed. She's normal and human and contrary to what many dumbasses think she has the same kinds of thoughts that you have. That's okay and nothing to be afraid of.

Reach, you just want someone whom you didn't need to instruct to desire you. But I'd say this dynamic is more common than not in a two-decade long marriage.

So you have to decide. Which do you want more: unbridled, natural desire or long-term companionship? Perhaps you cannot have both, with this woman.

You could just keep on cheating until it's out of your system, too.

man_in_the_world · 2019-05-16T03:58:30+00:00

If I were to describe what I want vs what I'm getting, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I can't quite put my finger on it. The desire seems genuine, but it still feels forced. ... This feels like a naugahyde imitation of the sex life I want.

In addition to that, I continue to be struck by how she dropped the "maybe we're just together because we're together" thing in the conversation. Seemed to me to be a rehearsed line. Something she'd been thinking, not something she just spit out off the cuff. Either an out-loud rationalization by her to make herself OK with me potentially leaving, or a blatant hint that I should kill the puppy.

Your satisfaction or not is entirely wrapped up in what you imagine might or might not be going on in your wife's head, in comparison with what you think was in the other woman's head. My usual line here is "Stay out of your wife's head!" This is clearly all about external sexual validation, which is a slippery and unstable basis for a LTR ... as you've discovered with your wife.

Unlike most of our deadbedroomed newbie validation-seekers here, you have built your SMV to a level where you can successfully chase and taste that super-sweet, sick validation high again and again through a series of ONS, STR, and short LTRs until familiarity or doubt rears its ugly head again with each ... and maybe this is what you truly desire, or what you need to work through some deep-seated insecurity.

For me it would reflect inner insecurity, so my frame finds it pathetic and weak. But you sound good enough to get away with chasing validation if you want or must, so do you ... just don't expect to replace your wife with a unicorn and ride off forever validated into the sunset; you'll be up inside her new head with the same old doubts before too many years have passed. That's just the way of this path.

Cloudy_Pirate · 2019-05-16T03:29:42+00:00

Thanks for sharing this. It is kind of sad, but very interesting. You are a good writer. I'm about 2 years behind you in my MRP journey (although I guess we all start at different places and proceed at different speeds).

I have great respect for how you have worked systematically to increase your SMV, up your game, increase passive dread, and trigger a main event where you stated what you wanted. And it worked right? She agreed and gave you exactly what you asked for!

But...

I'm getting exactly what I asked for and it's not turning out to really be what I want.

That is profound to me.

Several other guys have shared some really intriguing thoughts on this. I especially liked the link from /u/Persaeus. I'm interested to see if he adds more to it.

It could be that you got a taste of New Relationship Energy or a different flavor of Feminine Essence and found it intoxicating.

But it's fueling an idea that I have been wrestling with for a several weeks as I read through married red pill theory. I see it in your field report and I've seen it in a couple of other guy's OYS reports. We raise our SMV and add passive dread in order to make ourselves more attractive and increase our wive's desire. The easier (retrospective) solution would just be to marry a girl with a lower SMV up front. But rarely is this recommended. Most of us married the highest SMV girl we could. And then (usually after letting ourselves go for awhile) we worked to raise our SMV higher and higher in order to command the sex (quality and quantity) that we desired.

But it seems like at some point - when game and frame and SMV and dread are doing their job and the sex is readily available - it leads to dissatisfaction. It is almost like the male version of hypergamy... the idea that I could do better. Craving either higher quality sex OR a higher SMV woman (where part of her SMV is her sexuality towards you). That is what I read in between the lines of your field report.

Congratulations on the successful job so far. You've gotten everything you wanted (originally) and then some. I'm sure you will figure out the rest. I look forward to reading about it.

Sepean · 2019-05-16T07:00:54+00:00

This tinder girl, I bet she was trying too. Just like your wife is trying now, because you finally expected it from her. And that's some jarring shit - why wasn't she like this before, is it fake, yadda yadda. Every girl's sexual performance is a mix of how hot she thinks you are and how hard she tries. Even if you're fucking hot, lots of girls will still just enjoy the ride and not put in that extra effort unless you push them. You just gotta be more dominant, take what you want.

Careful with what behavior you accept, you're teaching others how to treat you.

Give it time, perspective changes. Stay dominant, don't accept her sliding back, and you'll eventually internalize that's it's silly to think your wife would be different to any other woman. They don't gag on your dick for funsies, they do it to make a dominant man happy, and if they think their pussy can do the same job just fine you're not getting all that kinky variety.

Persaeus · 2019-05-15T23:17:42+00:00

I’ll come back to this post tomorrow; but I want to leave this right here https://reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/baxqte/the_thing_you_really_want/

Hey Reach I’m back in the MRP saddle. First some housekeeping, the above link is to the TRP comments. Here the link to the original post.

Second, thanks for making this post. You pretty much summarize what was rolling around my head for a few weeks after the “The Thing You Really Want” post. Not going to sugarcoat it, that post from Whisper was a 2x4 sized splinter in my brain for weeks. Honestly, it put me into a state of depression for a short while.

TLDR - You probably cannot have what you really want in any long-term marriage; and sure as fuck cannot have it the one your currently in.

For all the bravado on squirting anal reports, i'm only aware of two posters: https://www.reddit.com/user/InChargeMan and https://www.reddit.com/user/bogeyd6; and i'm not at all sure that bogeyd6 was claiming the level of lust/passion described by Whisper.

The primary criticism of Whisper’s post, and you take a few swipes here in a similar vein, is that pushing back her boundaries to a “full menu” using dread or SGM or whatever is just validation seeking to prove to yourself that you’re the man and how she loves you sooooo much. I can tell you that I have killed that validation seeking to the point that I don’t even think about what’s on the menu and to the point that as far as the sex itself goes I’m perfectly satisfied with cad’s lasagna.

Still I hunger for that unhinged passion/lust. Why? Because it’s the taste of victory. It’s the taste of my male sexual strategy winning which brings us to the crux of the problem as I see it. IMHO, the lust/passion-aiming to please at all cost is driven by her sexual strategy which is essentially to audition for the best male available. The better the man, the stronger the audition. This “audition” occurs in the limbic brain and is not a conscious action. The problem is that your wife cannot audition for a role she already won; and unless she has a Godzilla sized hamster she can’t help but resent having to audition for a role the already won. Now here’s where the story gets a little murky. I feel like under some good circumstances I experience about 75% of that passion with this same old woman; but without her unbridled passion that is not enough to ignite the bonfire. Maybe she sees my 75% as 5%. Maybe she thinks she’s at 75% when it feels like 5% to me?

Becoming hot and implementing dread will cause her to see you as a sexual being with options, and improve your sex life, but it’s not the same thing as unfamiliarity and the risk it ecompasses or the uncertainity of truly auditioning. But even if you crank the dread all the way up to FMoFY, she’s still conscious of the fact that your forcing this choice and action upon her. Conscious action and unbridled passion are mutually exclusive because the latter requires surrender of consciousness.

So once again, it comes down to what do you really want and what are you willing to sacrifice to get it? If you want the cocaine (it’s brain drug btw) of maximizing your male sexual strategy than you can either smash on the side until that comes to head and see what happens; or if you really must have the best cocaine than divorce your wife and line up thots for their audition. As MitW notes though, there is no unicorn that going to give you both cocaine and the warm glow of “love”.

Right now, for me, snorting cocaine is not my optimal life strategy to accomplish my current mission. Mission’s change though, and I’m not ruling out cocaine in the future.

Couple thoughts on your main event:

First off, unless she’s a retard she's very sure that your fucking other women. Been telegraphing a branch swing for three years (aka “dread”), goes away on a b-trip, and then comes back to implement a sex strike. Yeah, she knows. Cue the “hysterical bonding”; and you’ve pretty much blown your cover on smashing on the down low.

"maybe we're just together because we're together"

lol, female power talk. A shit test to see if you blink on your demands. No, it was not rehearsed. Power talk is natural for women.

justpickanyusername · 2019-05-16T00:15:13+00:00

Boundaries, expectations, and wants.

I have been somewhat fascinated by this dynamic. You mention your wife has some boundaries that have been put up. It looks like you are wanting to pull some of those down. Some have come down in recent years, but not all of them. I don't know if it really matters what those are as you didn't specify. I have seen guys in here wanting to get the wife to do anal or a threesome or whatever. It doesn't really matter what the boundary is as this varies.

I'm just fascinated by the dynamic it presents. My guess is the girl you fucked off of Tinder had very few boundaries and you had your way with her. Your wife has boundaries that you haven't cracked and may never crack as long as you are with her. Some boundaries are virtually unbreakable. In other words, no matter how hot a dude is some girls just won't drink his piss no matter how much it gets him off (just an example).

My question for you is more centered around the why of tearing down the boundaries because I think it matters. Is the main motivation to tearing down the boundaries a show of devotion to you and the validation kick it will bring? Or, is it more of a this is what I want and I won't be happy having sex with these boundaries in place? I think a clear understanding of the two is important.

There is nothing wrong with having expectations and wants. I think it is just a good idea to understand why you have those expectations and wants. It will help you determine better if she still fits and can meet your expectations. Likewise, you need to determine whether you are just trying to get her to "drink your piss" because you want a show of devotion validation kick because you feel you deserve it.

You have known her for a long time now. She is likely not going to change a whole lot. What you see is what you get for the most part from here on out and most of her boundaries are likely going to remain. I used an outrageous example of drinking piss, but she will probably wall up to certain things sexually for you and anyone else out there. That is just her.

Can you live with that or not is essentially the question you will have to answer.

FereallyRed · 2019-05-16T03:01:23+00:00

You gave her a 5000 foot rope. It all is dragging along behind you. She's also getting dragged along behind.

That's a lot of drag. And when you change direction at the front, it takes forever for her to even realize something happened.

I think the issue is that neither of you had much of a chance to be socially interactive during the young phase. You both had each other. This created a lot of comfort, but innoculated her against dread. She's never been dumped before.

The other thing I see is you still have a need to save the relationship, after years of grind.

The purpose of the dread ladder is to remove the binary.... "Is it me or is it her why we aren't working out?" Dread takes you out of that scenario.... You've changed to the point where you are truly an attractive person. So it's not you.

That logically leaves her as the problem. And by giving her a few thousand extra feet of rope, you unfortunately increased her comfort.

Where's her incentive to wake up?

You've been serving the same lasagna every day for twenty years. You noticed she doesn't get excited about lasagna anymore. So you change the recipe to the best lasagna you can make, but to her it's still lasagna.

I think you have to stop serving her lasagna so she realizes that she was taking the lasagna for granted, "don't know what you've got 'til it's gone" kind of thing (Great... Poison Song Earworm. Fuck.)

Your problem is you like to serve her lasagna.

Why? For her or for you? Both, I know. Is there a covert contract there? Sure is. Is there some validation seeking? Yes again. Do you like being the guy that serves the best fucking lasagna she ever had? Of course. But she's never had anyone else's lasagna.

Might be time to open an Italian restaurant and stop serving her free lasagna.

Plus you TOLD her she better start appreciating the lasagna because it's so fucking good. That's setting up a premise that is inherently fake because it's in her best interest to suddenly pretend she's now SO excited over the same lasagna she's been getting everyday.

Maybe when she realizes your lasagna is fantastic after all she'll start ordering takeout and loving it again.

That's it, I'm tired of typing lasagna. And hungry.

Lasagna.

tspitsatgp · 2019-05-16T02:14:13+00:00

I reckon you just want out of your marriage. Fair enough. It's been a long-time, you are a new man and you want to see what else is out there -- it's gnawing away at you isn't it.

I held my ground again - "If this is something you have to try, I don't want it. Either you are going to be this person or you aren't."

This can be taken two ways:

Either you are you this person already or you aren't. Rhetorical question. Clearly she isn't this person already based on your 20~ years experience with her. So it isn't option 1.
Either you will comply or you won't. Negotiating desire. As you stated, it cannot last. It's option 2.

If I were to describe what I want vs what I'm getting, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I can't quite put my finger on it. The desire seems genuine, but it still feels forced.

So... you are asking your wife to comply with a vibe that you can't quite describe but you know you don't feel it with her.

Maybe the grass will be greener, maybe it won't. Goodluck.

mabden · 2019-05-16T01:16:37+00:00

Here's my take, if your wife has sexual "boundaries " she overtly enforces, it is due to actual personal issues she has with sex and/or she is not attracted enough to you to overcome them.

In your quest to fulfill your sexual desires, you generate overt dread forcing your wife to drop her boundaries. This leaves you in the same position you started. Is the sex you just experienced real or memorex?

In shorter words you've created a no win situation for both of you.

weakandsensitive · 2019-05-16T01:59:59+00:00

Familiarity is an interesting thing.

bogeyd6 · 2019-05-16T03:05:08+00:00

Pretty much like everyone else. You skipped the SGM and and expected something extra from her which she will not just give. You have to take. It's contradictory for sure and is totally not PC, just how its done. You reached the point I was at two years ago. When you get everything you thought you wanted, what else is there?

You had filet magnon, you dont want hamburger but something inside you says there is yet one more thing. The answer is, if you have this question she doesnt have the answer.

Reach180 · 2019-05-16T13:13:38+00:00

Well, to preface: Your map, your mission. Even if I think you're making your mission LARPing for the rest of your life.

Smacks me as a heaping helping of naivete understandable coming from a boy who met a girl at 16 and then after many years decided to see what the fuss was all about outside the nest.

I've heard pop stars all talk about the moments (I remember John Mayer explicitly talking about it once I think in a playboy article...yes I read an article in a playboy once) they eventually stop fucking fans and shift towards something they consider more on the level and meaningful.

At some point, whoever they are with, will eventually become familiar to them at which point all of the worship will morph into something else. And I'm sure, like the rest it runs the gambit from Tommy Lee/Pam Anderson's gushing over each other's sex tape to some maintenance sex. To believe otherwise to me would be fantasy.

If you never want that something else, and for ego validation's sake you only accept that level then you'll have to maintain a situation of constant newness and scarcity. Until your desires change or you find the unicorn or a convincing facsimile since they don't exist.

We talk about women who didn't get a chance to ride the cock carousel flinging off a beta they settled with early to go ride it in their 30's or 40's until they hit the wall or stop being unable to pull any kind of quality. I'm sure if you two hooked up early you feel like you missed out on something.

You and your wife have been together since you were 16. You can never explain experience. Maybe you have to earn it.

I've always looked at relatives and friends who married their high school sweetheart and stayed with them forever as having escaped something fucked up about our western mating dance. They get to have the time to grow up together and they seem to compliment each other more like a true couple rather than 2 individuals settling. There's no alpha zombies. They get to have kids at more biologically appropriate ages....and really make and stick to long term goals. But maybe there's always the what-ifs since they are surround by the rest of us who danced that dance for a while.

Side note: It's kind of bizarre/does not compute that you complain that sex is all about pleasing her but what you are getting is some sort of unenthusiastic chore sex at the same time up until your passively forced talk.

RuleZeroDAD · 2019-05-16T17:55:26+00:00

What to do when genuine desire looks you in the face.

It all depends upon whom the look comes from, and your willingness to jump at that signal.

Be careful, that shit is like heroin, and you could end up chasing the wrong dragon for the right reasons.

SBIII · 2019-05-16T10:04:25+00:00

There's always going to be a difference between a ONS and and sex in a marriage or LTR. I'm guessing by the fact that you've only realised that now, you haven't fucked around a lot. Maybe you should. It might give you a different perspective on things.

JudgeDoom69 · 2019-05-16T13:56:01+00:00

I would say this was less of a Main Event and more of you attempting to negotiate desire, (and succeeding in the negotiation to an extent). You want your wife to desire to please you, so you threatened her with basically "lust for me, or we are done". So she went through the motions for fear of losing her situation. It's not genuine lust, but she gets an A for effort.

What you are seeking from your wife is the thrill and passion that only comes in the infatuation stage of a new relationship, during which both partners have something to prove and something new (strange) to offer each other.

If you insist on that level of passion, you will need to spin plates (either in addition to your marriage or in place of it).

resolutions316 · 2019-05-16T03:27:49+00:00

Your situation has so many parallels to my own, but you’re in a much stronger position than I am, DL wise.

The easy answers, if there ever were any, are pretty nonexistent at this point. The hardest thing is knowing what you want, and having enough confidence in that to give up what you have.

Thanks for posting this.

amalgamator · 2019-05-16T00:22:43+00:00

This is what Schnarch calls “critical mass” in his book Passionate Marriage. Good stuff. Marriage is a growth machine. You got better...now it’s up to her and then you decide if your are satisfied. Will she bring her best self to this? We’ll see. Keep up the pressure for growth.

LongRoad_518 · 2019-05-16T13:35:58+00:00

> "Well what if I try all this and it's still not enough for you." I held my ground again - "If this is something you have to try, I don't want it. Either you are going to be this person or you aren't."

My 2 cents... if she's willing to make an effort, she's trying to please you. If it's not good enough for you, then you have every right and are in the position to continue to cheat or divorce. I'm not sure this is a main event... it sounds like she's already pretty submissive and wanting to please you. You just aren't happy with the relationship and her. That's fine, shit happens, move on if you want.

BobbyPeru · 2019-05-15T23:28:39+00:00

So, you’re 3 years in, and you’re trying to negotiate desire?

Daddy_ThunderCock · 2019-05-16T14:26:07+00:00

What I want in my life is a woman that gives herself to me sexually. All of her. I don't want obligated compliance with what I want. I want a woman who wants to please me. I don't know if it's the baggage of our past, that you don't trust me, that you're too familiar with me, or that you think there's some sort of sexual retirement coming for you post 40. But this isn't something that will get out of my system. It is who I am as a man. For a long time in my life, I didn't understand it - I was never able to articulate it to you. I thought it made me a selfish person for wanting it from you. But I understand it now, and I'm not ashamed of it. I'm telling you that in my life, I am going to pursue this.

Our sex life right now can be summed up as this: You allow me to please you. Much of the time, I am fine with that. Pleasing you pleases me. And so as long as I keep my head in the space of getting my pleasure from pleasing you, I enjoy myself. But when I want something other than what pleases you, I am left cold. This isn't about having a list of the places I want to put my dick, and my mouth, and your mouth, and we check the boxes. This is about how I want someone who seeks out what I want and is excited to be the person who gets to do it with me.

I allowed you to hold the cards all this time, by taking my options off the table. But when it dawned on me that all I will ever get is to be allowed to please you, my willingness to go along with these terms shriveled and died. I'm telling you now that I know what cards I hold. (I took my shirt off) Look at me - this is what your husband looks like. I know what options I have, and if you ever pay attention when we're out in public, I know you know what I could find in an hour if I walked out the front door looking for it.

I always wanted this with you. I like our life, our kids, our house, and I like you. But my life will not be what I want it to be without this. I want it more than I want it to be with you.

I feel like I could have written this, wow. All I have ever wanted is a woman that gives herself to me sexually. I feel like we are in the same boat except I have way less experience in my RP journey. Good luck to you brother.

NMMNG_1 · 2019-05-16T18:52:43+00:00

So right there, we had sex....during which I blew past some of her prior boundaries and she was hot for it all, not a word or even hesitation. And this continued in the immediate aftermath. I'm under no impression that this is the new normal. Hysterical bonding, for sure. But it was fun to play in this end of the pool with her.

For a bit, anyway. If I were to describe what I want vs what I'm getting, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I can't quite put my finger on it. The desire seems genuine, but it still feels forced. Stoney likes that old 'naugahide remorse' post. This feels like a naugahyde imitation of the sex life I want. /u/Persaeus said to me on my background post "Once you've had filet, you won't want to go back to hamburger". And that is true. I know that's a big part of it. My wife's even offering the special reserve hamburger she didn't realize she had. It's still less than satisfying.

In addition to that, I continue to be struck by how she dropped the "maybe we're just together because we're together" thing in the conversation. Seemed to me to be a rehearsed line. Something she'd been thinking, not something she just spit out off the cuff. Either an out-loud rationalization by her to make herself OK with me potentially leaving, or a blatant hint that I should kill the puppy. The mrp commenter in me sees "kill the puppy", but the guy close to the situation doesn't.

Perhaps it's time to re-read Passionate Marriage (PM), from the expanded list. This is almost textbook PM.

Congrats on finally being your own judge. Your tale gives me so much to think about; I have a long, long road ahead of me.

Thank you for sharing this.

screechhater · 2019-05-17T03:11:56+00:00

It was blatantly spit out at me in the following words, “I just want you in me, and I don’t care “where” as long as you are in me.”

It comes with dominance, changing of the game and altering fuck sessions while- Immersion, Dominance, Emotion....

It’s all in the sidebar.

Not a main event

A diatribe of what you expect - an ultimatum. (They don’t work).

Wait for the falling off of the train as you fall back into your old habits of exuding inconsistency in your frame and exposing your hidden agenda of “hot and bothered wife” at the flip of a switch

BostonBrakeJob · 2019-05-17T15:13:04+00:00

Have you considered that she just doesn't know how to please you?

A lot of your post resonated with where I was at about 4 months ago. I also didn't want to have to instruct her on expressing her desire.

I, like you, didn't want to sit her down and force a talk either. Instead, I just started commanding the things I wanted during sex. I don't know where this will lead long term. She may "learn" what I like and start doing it on her own (expressing her desire to please me, now that she knows how to), or I may have to continue to be commanding to bring it out of her.

I enjoyed it, a lot more than I expected I would. And her body let me know she liked it too, which was fun. So even if this is just how it has to be I'm good with that.

More dominance on your end may be something to consider if you want that needle to move?

cloud_knight · 2019-05-15T22:41:17+00:00

I appreciate this post, thanks.

On the surface, there's a lot of "she" and it could be misconstrued as BP faggotry. But I think you've articulated an important MRP corner to turn.

You've broken your one-itis and realised you want sex of a certain standard - and it doesn't have to be with your wife. It's your ego talking; but fuck it, why live with mediocrity?

RandomlyChosenTitle · 2019-05-16T01:27:23+00:00

I'm under no impression that this is the new normal. Hysterical bonding, for sure.

In more than one sense most likely. Decent chance that she's aware of the cheating, or at the very least suspects, and isn't sure what to make of it yet. And maybe that's the answer if you're okay with getting that particular itch scratched elsewhere. Don't ask, don't tell works surprising well in some cases.

Taipanshimshon · 2019-05-17T21:00:03+00:00

So I’m going to ask you a question.

“ and so what now ?”

You gonna divorce her over not desiring to please you ?

You gonna have intermittent tinder dates to get that part of life ?

I’m honestly asking.

Coz we can’t decide for you.

I can tell you that I couldn’t let go of the past so I kicked her to the curb. I wasn’t happy. That’s it.

What’re you doing to do?

Aechzen · 2019-05-18T02:00:19+00:00

Thank you for your post, and thank you for linking to the backstory. The backstory was relevant to understanding this post better.

First, you're not the first guy who went to 11 because you just felt like there had to be something better out there. You found it, you could have found it easier and closer to home, but you cared more about secops than getting your dick wet. I can respect that degree of caution.

Second, it's easy to get the impression from lots of MRP and especially mainline RP that marriage is The Worst. You've pointed out many of the positives you get from your wife. She sounds like a solid First Mate. Her hard limits, some of which have already fallen and frankly more will probably fall if you keep your foot on the gas, sound like the worst thing about her.

Third, plates. It's possible to keep your wife, and also fuck as regularly as you want outside your marriage. You know how many options you have bro. Do what you think is right for you. It sounds like your wife wants to keep you, and you might be able to go to 12 with her enthusiastic suggestion. Is your wife bi?

facility99 · 2019-05-20T22:51:35+00:00

You seriously took off your shirt and said "look at this?"

markpf73 · 2019-05-16T17:56:34+00:00

Yup - she’s been writing checks her pussy can’t cash.

FinancialLeopard5 · 2019-05-22T22:59:36+00:00

Your OYS history is exactly like mine. The only difference is that we have only one daughter and I told her that I'll not move from city because of her job. Thank god I didn't did that.

FinancialLeopard5 · 2019-05-22T23:07:48+00:00

May I ask what os TRT that you told on OYS?

TesticlesTheElder · 2019-05-16T03:28:46+00:00

Your entire 5000 words of sperging boils down to this:

I did not expect her to handle this well

That’s because she’s fucking someone else and is glad to have a chance for you to kill the puppy.

Redpillbrigade17 · 2019-05-15T23:55:51+00:00

How long have you been married for? Have you met with a divorce lawyer yet? If you haven’t, you’re not really ready.

Title	[FR] My Main Event
Author	Reach180
Upvotes	86
Comments	156
Date	May 15, 2019 10:01 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MarriedRedPill
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