Q4men: Do you hear men bragging to other men about their wives being submissive and obedient; or more men complaining about their wives being difficult?

I am specifically asking about wives and girlfriends, not plates. Men will brag about a plate being submissive and obedient and cook and clean for him all the time. That is something else, it’s a way of saying “I don’t even give her commitment and she does all this for me.” That’s not what I am asking.

Have you heard men brag to other men about their wives or committed gf’s being submissive, obedient, not needy, cool girl, cooking cleaning etc.?

I understand that men at the bar will complain about their wives being a pain in the ass, or being emotional, or shopping too much. (I am talking about the non-mean-spirited venting men do at the bar, not internet mens’ spaces where they show actual contempt for their wives.).

I think this is two-fold, it is partly venting, but it is also bragging.

Men have told me on PPD that the hotter a woman is, the more difficult-ness they will tolerate from her.

When men brag about their wives being difficult, they are basically saying “my wife is hot enough to be able to act that way.” By complains about it they are also sayin “I am responding with amused mastery or joking because I am not threatened by it, but my wife is still hot.”(

Edit: you guys understand I’m employing psychoanalysis here, right? That I think there’s a subconscious effect, not that men are literally at face value saying “my wife is difficult” and the other guys literally say “she sounds hot.” I am speaking of the unconscious things people signal here.

I am wondering what men think of another man who brags about his wife being the perfect submissive bang maid?