U.S. Men Less Concerned Than in 2017 About Sexual Harassment

ScootsScoots · 2019-03-19T14:38:18+00:00

The movement itself was headed by two hypocrites. One engaged in the very act she was railing against (Asia) and her friend (rose) then defended her.

Couple this with all of the False accusations and I'm very cautious to believe attention seeking victim mentality leftist women who claim anything.

Real victims are being drowned out by the noise of leftist women who want to be a victim so bad because it benefits their narrative.

No Becky, you weren't raped. You took part in a gangbang at the local frat house and now you regret it. Blow it out your ass.

geyges · 2019-03-19T13:38:25+00:00

Men that don't harass women are burned out by the coverage. They don't see it as a problem because:

1) They don't do it.

2) They don't see others do it.

3) It doesn't happen to them.

Why would a normal person care about something that's not part of their personal experience?

I personally don't know what type of stuff the HR has to deal with in my workplace, but other than a little spiel during the orientation, I haven't heard anything related to harassment and I haven't heard of anyone getting harassed. Why would I care?

Supernumiphone · 2019-03-19T17:26:02+00:00

Why do you think US men are less concerned than in 2017 about sexual harassment?

I suspect that a lot of it is the growing mountain of examples of women using the movement for personal gain. Men are seeing over and over women lying and destroying men's careers and lives with no evidence and no repercussions. Just an accusation is enough, and they know it could happen to them. So it's gotten to the point that instead of meeting new accusations with empathy, the default reaction becomes skepticism. We're all becoming jaded.

The biggest mistake the #MeToo movement made was in shouting down those who tried to remind us to hold on to the presumption of innocence, and withhold judgment and punishment until the facts were in. Forcing Matt Damon to apologize for simply pointing out that there are gradations to abuse and maybe mild forms shouldn't be treated the same as the most severe. Hounding anyone who didn't eagerly "believe all victims." This opened the door to allow women with personality disorders to use the movement for personal gain, which of course they did. Then some of them got caught, and now everyone knows they can't trust it anymore. That's what happens when you throw out protections for the innocent.

positivityatgunpoint · 2019-03-19T14:41:12+00:00

Despite the rhetoric, most men aren't harassers. The ones at the top, the ones who can get away with and the ones who are criminals anyways tend to be. Mainstream feminist movements only concern themselves with these people while most of the other men are invisible. The world's a horrifying place if you only pay attention to the horrifying things.

(Controlling for culture too, one culture's idea of a man approaching a woman might be harassment for a woman in a meeker culture, but a woman in that culture knows what to say or do to properly shut him down, because the women in that culture are taught to have an equal amount of backbone)

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2019-03-19T15:09:39+00:00

this is what happens after a hysteria bubble pops.

people stopped accusing daycare centers of ritual satanic abuse after the mcmartin trial too

big public moral panics mark the coming END of a concern, not the beginning

diffdedbed · 2019-03-19T13:59:28+00:00

After having someone try to slander me with a false #metoo, they can fuck right off.

Kinaibhlan · 2019-03-19T14:10:10+00:00

It's really not as big of a deal as the media makes it seem

wekacuck · 2019-03-19T15:14:20+00:00

Amber Heard

Aziz

You forgot Asia Argento. I do still care deeply about this, but I'm much more jaded. Particularly about anything involving the entertainment industry. I just literally don't give a shit about entertainers anymore.

ZodiacBrave98 · 2019-03-19T14:19:19+00:00

False allegations were weaponized politically. Kavanaugh is a good example.

That turns the question from "What can we do to stop this?" to "Did this really happen?"

Million-Suns · 2019-03-19T18:17:59+00:00

Why do you think US men are less concerned than in 2017 about sexual harassment?

Simple. Most men started using Mike Pence rules, and stopped mentoring women, or hiring women completely.

In short, they are better protected.

[deleted] · 2019-03-19T19:20:45+00:00

Everyone, not just men, are starting to realize that all this rape culture and rape hysteria bullshit is... well.... bullshit.

wingbark · 2019-03-19T13:27:36+00:00

Well the metoo movement and sexual harassment was THE news story of that year, to my memory. You couldn’t turn on a tv or get online without seeing a headline related to it. It was just more visible. Now it’s more out of sight out of mind.

Pope_Lucious · 2019-03-19T19:03:26+00:00

The panic has run its course and people are coming back down to earth.

GradualDecomp · 2019-03-19T16:21:11+00:00

Everything has become so politicized that offering any empathy or credibility to "the other side" is perceived as sleeping with the enemy.

I suspect that a vast majority of men, even the most conservative men, would give a shit if they were to learn that a woman friend or family member was dealing with sexual harassment or assault. I expect most would be extremely upset. Because that's personal. It's also easier to believe someone you know.

Similarly, a liberal minded person can't really get away with expressing any kind of understanding or sympathy to what may have lead a good person with good intentions to vote for Trump. Even the most far left person out there could easily excuse a close friend or family member for voting for him, while demonizing all the others.

I can easily apply this personally. There are many political issues that I truly give a shit about, but I'm so burnt out from the outrageous media coverage that I have straight up run out of mental energy to discuss, think about, or act upon them. I think most of us are there.

These are crazy times. We're all tired.

yasee · 2019-03-19T14:24:12+00:00

instead of guys caring less as a dismissive thing you could also interpret this as guys thinking that metoo is working as intended, e.g. it's less of an issue now because it's being addressed and more people are aware and sensitive to it

niem254 · 2019-03-19T18:57:06+00:00

Boy who cried wolf.

LinkedFerret69 · 2019-03-19T19:36:32+00:00

I think they may be less concerned because of all this #metoo stuff. What they are seeing is now men in powerful positions being held accountable for their actions and no longer being accepted by the general population. So, at least in their eyes, there is less need to worry because when it happens the people get punished.

Also, women because of this are becoming more vocal about the issues. Some aren't even trying to ruin men's lives, they just want the comments to stop. Like if a guy says "love me them mondo gazungas" she may just tell him to stop and inform his manager to make sure it doesn't happen again. Again, no charges or wish to punish him, just stopping the issue before it gets outta hand (pardon the unintentional pun).

Just what I think. Concerned could mean "I don't see it as an issue because they are being held accountable"

Pyromed · 2019-03-19T21:18:42+00:00

Likewise, the 46% of men who now say people in the workplace aren't sensitive enough to sexual harassment is down, by eight percentage points.

I think this says a lot honestly and not in a bad way. I think all the support has boosted companies propensity to take problems seriously which was surely the point of metoo despite its failings.

Acknowledging that shouldn't be seen as a bad thing. In a perfect world we'd want that number to be zero to begin with.

rus9384 · 2019-03-19T13:28:52+00:00

Well, I guess #Metoo movement caused hype. Just like people are no more interested in spinners as they used to be.

BirdManBrrrr · 2019-03-19T14:41:47+00:00

Why do you think US men are less concerned than in 2017 about sexual harassment?

The news cycle. When #metoo et al is overshadowed by Trump's latest tweets or a native american dude banging a drum in some kid's face it's no longer in the forefront of anyone's mind.

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Bntt89 · 2019-03-19T21:14:40+00:00

They probably mistakenly believe that with all this coverage, that some is being done. If it isn’t in the new all the time they won’t know about it. I also don’t think they keep up on it on a regular bases.

poppy_blu · 2019-03-19T23:50:25+00:00

Because the angry paranoid alarmists of the manosphere do not represent most men

TheScamr · 2019-03-20T04:42:07+00:00

Until society puts women who are false accusers on registries and makes them felons I don't care. I have seen to many women and spoken to too many women that are fucking lunatics when it comes to not punishing false claimers.

ilptrandom · 2019-03-20T14:30:42+00:00

I think they've just worked out that to be effectively me-tooed you need to have been systematically predatory for years including at least a few instances which were illegal in nature (assault, deprivation of liberty, workplace discrimination etc) , and that if all you've done (like most men) is mess up on etiquette and make a faux pas here and there that you regret and learn from almost as soon as it happened, the rules have not changed for you at all. I think they've also had a bit of a think about it and placed themselves in the situation of men other than the accused men... the husbands and boyfriends and fathers... and decided that well just maybe there should be some sort of option in place for stopping seriously predatory men that doesn't involve having to beat them to death.

kandyapplez · 2019-03-19T14:04:22+00:00

because men are inherently unempathetic to women and don't like hearing them complain about anything whether its valid or not. its also become politicized so men on the right will say its not as important.

Title	U.S. Men Less Concerned Than in 2017 About Sexual Harassment
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Date	March 19, 2019 1:18 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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