What's so bad about women fucking a string of "Chads" then settling down with a guy who wants a relationship?

says_harsh_things · 2017-02-24T21:27:12+00:00

This is a fundamental disconnect between what guys define as 'best' and what girls define as 'best'.

Most men place number 1 priority on raw, passionate sex with a loving partner. All of the relationship stuff is secondary at best.

When a woman refuses to have the sex she had with chad with her beta, he's NOT getting her 'best' no matter how hard she tries to define hand holding, netflix watching, and trips to her mothers house as the 'best' parts of a relationship.

If she were having enthusiastic, raw, adventurous, and experimental sex with the beta the same as she did with the chads, i might agree with you more. But....shes not that sexual of a woman now.....is she? She just...doesnt do those things anymore.

Its like saying "you get all the best parts of ferrari ownership - the maintenance, the insurance, the depreciation, the chance to say you own a ferrari with none of that worthless headache of having to drive the thing FAST. Arent you lucky?"

alreadyredschool · 2017-02-24T21:12:22+00:00

the alphas only get the casual sex, while the betas get everything from her, her best!

Are you ignoring the fact that most of these alphas could have a relationship too?

Like what's so bad about this?

If it hits you it's bad. Basically it's "if she wouldn't have given you the time of the day with 25 you shouldn't LTR her if she is 35"

prodigy2throw · 2017-02-24T22:47:32+00:00

I don't know. Pretty sure women would feel pretty salty if they found out a guy used to spend thousands of dollars on all his previous gfs and now he barely spends any money on his current gf. Or if he used to shower his exes with compliments but the current gf only gets it once in a while begrudgingly, when she asks him.

Now in that situation, yes maybe there's some women that don't want a man to buy her gifts or who doesn't need to be told she's pretty. But I'm sure there's also lots of girls who may think to themselves "he used to spoil all his exes unconditionally but he doesn't do that to me. Maybe he doesn't like me as much. What if he's SETTLING for me?"

Alternatively, I've heard women on this sub say they don't like men with high n counts either. So maybe there's just a natural revulsion to it.

Deane_ · 2017-02-24T21:53:20+00:00

Nothing is wrong with a woman doing that. In fact it's probably optimal strategy for a woman. I know that as a guy if I could bang a bunch of 7+ chicks from 16-30 then settle down with a 5 who would financially support me I'd feel like I hit the lottery.

The problem is no guy wants to be a beta bux- for obvious reasons.

darkmoon09 · 2017-02-24T21:54:50+00:00

Like my other post, the alphas only get the casual sex, while the betas get everything from her, her best!

This has to be a troll post. I give you a B-.

No, the beta doesn't "get" anything from her. Anything he does "get" from her is extracted, bit by bit, like pulling teeth, with her kicking and screaming the entire time. Women who marry betas after riding the carousel sorely regret it.

exit_sandman · 2017-02-24T22:26:59+00:00

What's so bad about a guy not wanting to marry a woman who does that?

[deleted] · 2017-02-24T23:24:08+00:00

It doesn't feel good knowing that as an average guy, I can struggle to date in my twenties and then "settle" while the average opposite sex can get sex from the top men and then settle into a cushy relationship where they are taken care of at the end.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2017-02-24T21:14:27+00:00

theres nothing bad about it in the abstract, RP rails against THEMSELVES being the BB

SetConsumes · 2017-02-24T22:38:36+00:00

In the (imaginary) scenario TRP describes a woman compromises on her sexual pleasure when finally getting into a relationship because she wasn't able to get commitment from the guys she was actually attracted to. Now obviously no one wants to feel settled for so I get why this specific scenario would be bad and something to avoid. The real problem is that TRP thinks nearly all women do this when in reality there is absolutely nothing to suggest this. Most women have sex and get into relationships with men they're attracted to. If you meet your future wife at 28 and both of you have a couple of relationships/ONS/FwBs under your belt you're not getting any seconds at all.

Jewdius_Maximus · 2017-02-24T21:13:13+00:00

There's nothing inherently bad or good about it. Life is short and it is what it is. I just personally don't want to marry a whore whose had 100 dicks in her an sucked 100 more before the age of 25. I don't want to marry a girl whose had a train run on her by an entire football team in college. I don't want sloppy 50ths. Sex is part of getting the best. I don't just want her emotional best. I want her sexual and physical best too.

[deleted] · 2017-02-24T22:47:10+00:00

Well, let's ignore STDs for a bit.

Despite red pill claims I see quite a few of these women remain single, or have a hard time maintaining relationships.

Casual sex can almost be like a drug. When they do settle down many expect that"honeymoons" phase to last forever, because that's the rush of STRs.

The alpha's only get casual sex, while the betas get everything from her, her best

Her best is that pussy when it's young

[deleted] · 2017-02-24T22:07:27+00:00

Because you're a chump if you're the guy she settles for. You had to do more work to get less of her than Chad did, she's still attracted to Chad so she'll probably cheat on you at some point, and she likely did nastier things for Chad than she did for you. You're not getting the best of her, you're actually getting the worst from her.

SmurfESmurferson · 2017-02-24T21:21:50+00:00

Nothing at all.

A lot of TRP guys seem delusional, though. They think that they'll find a virginal 18 year old who has never really interacted with other guys, who will become so horny for them that they turn into their personal super slut. Oh, and who has male interests for the rare times she's not touching their wiener.

I wish them luck in their search.

wtknight · 2017-02-24T21:33:31+00:00

It's fine if she acts the same way sexually with the guy who she is in a relationship with compared to how she did with those casual sex guys in the past, but sometimes that's not the case.

sam_the_terrorist · Fri Feb 24 21:58:20 2017 UTC

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SetConsumes · 2017-02-24T23:57:36+00:00

She devalues her sex and the sex of other women in society. If most women make men work for their sex, then the ones that don't cheapen sex in general, lessen the power women that don't put out easily have.

Of course now we're at the point where being a slut is normal and virgins are shamed. Granted sluts are still shamed too. Lol.

Settling down with a guy that's good for relationship was to include having had the woman during her most beautiful years, instead BBs are getting women after their most beautiful years have passed too, giving him less fond memories and things to keep him attached and loving her.

mordanus · 2017-02-25T05:33:29+00:00

You aren't getting her best. You get the aged version of the girl that other guys wanted to be with. Now that she is less attractive and her options are limited she thinks that she can land me as her support system. I'm also getting all of her baggage from her failed attempts at relationships. I'm getting the insecurities and disorders that this brings as well..... yeah... definitely her best.

trail22 · 2017-02-24T21:28:55+00:00

Not much. But women don't like to admit that they are as superficial as men.

HitchensTwoPointOh · 2017-02-24T22:39:08+00:00

Because she ignored the guy wanting a relationship because he wasn't a challenge and didnt give her the tingles and instead went off and fucked a bunch of chads? Your question kinda answers itself.

OurThrownAwayDreams · 2017-02-24T22:00:09+00:00

There's nothing wrong with it. It's how people strategize for happiness. I used to think "well, any is better than none right?" Then I realize I deserve someone who really values my love, not someone who loves my value. The women who had been with Chad all her life suddenly wants to settle down with me don't value my love. She loves the values I provide. And god forbid if some day I can no longer provide those values, she's gonna drop me instantly. What am I looking at? The rest of my life in a shitty tiny apartment, still paying alimony, probably won't get to see much of my kids if she wins custody. Sigh...

Either way... I'm gonna be living in a tiny, cold, and lonely apartment. Might as well be a free man and not having to worry about alimony and shit. At least I can do the things I want to do, start a project or read books without getting interrupted, etc.

Nozickspeaks · 2017-02-25T21:00:25+00:00

Imagine youre not a person at all, you get to be one of her life experiences. Would you rather be the life changing Europe trip she went on in College or her tiresome 9-5 job she has now and has been working for the past few years?

FairlyNaive · 2017-02-25T00:28:08+00:00

the alphas only get the casual sex, while the betas get everything from her, her best!

Too fat, even for you.

[deleted] · 2017-02-25T10:06:42+00:00

Like my other post, the alphas only get the casual sex, while the betas get everything from her, her best!

And last week I read an article by a feminist author where she unleashed hell on men who divided women into girlfriend and fuckbudy. It was said to perpetuate rape culture and slut shaming. Funny how all feminist arguments seem to dissolve when the genders are reversed.

Typhoon_Ashbite · 2017-02-25T14:16:23+00:00

Because no man wants to be a beta bucks and/or the simp who has to pay a premium price for used goods.

[deleted] · 2017-02-25T14:55:20+00:00

. Like my other post, the alphas only get the casual sex, while the betas get everything from her, her best!

But a woman's best is sex, lol. If she's offering the best, steamy, hot, non-strings attached, all-a-chad-can-eat buffet, how flattering it is to be told that a woman wants you to deal with her problems, issues, needs and wants and dreams? And expectations.

oh, that guy got to fuck her without even learning her name. Meanwhile that guy gotta date the chick and wine and dine her for one month before she puts out. We don't want the guy to think she's a slut! He's boyfriend material. he's the lucky guy, not the string of Chads who made a boxing bag of her anus.

washington_breadstix · 2017-02-26T20:18:26+00:00

It's very bad for the "beta" man who has to deal with a relationship where his partner isn't actually physically attracted to him.

No one wants to be the one who is settled for.

exit_sandman · 2017-02-24T22:48:48+00:00

Low effort trolling shitpost, reported.

DarkLord0chinChin · 2017-02-24T22:32:53+00:00

It's as bad as men deciding that women aren't worth it and living the bachelor life.

If we assume that the value men bring into the partnership is commitment, and the value women bring into the partnership is their youth, then the situation where a woman decides to spend her youth on superficial hedonistic pursuits instead of marriage and then settles when she realizes she can no longer do it is equivalent to a guy deciding to spend his most productive years on hedonistic pursuits after realizing he can no longer get a young woman

In the end, it's all a question of morality. Should people strive to create families, raise children and build the society? Or should people focus on their own freedom and get the most enjoyment out of it?

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EchoZeroEleven · 2017-02-24T22:14:25+00:00

On a strictly logical level, yea no biggie, whatever.

Some men can't divorce emotions from sex, and some consider sex to be sacred.

"only casual sex"

If sex isn't really isn't valuable in the least and is nothing more than two people mashing genitalia together, then yea, there's no debate here.

If.

[deleted] · 2017-02-24T22:23:16+00:00

There isnt anything particularly wrong with it, it's just useful to be aware of it. When you are aware of it, you can make an informed choice about who you want to enter into something with.

AtLeastTwoPills · 2017-02-24T22:27:14+00:00

In general, people become better at what they put their time and effort into. It comes down to odds. The woman who has been looking for and working on long-term relationships will be a better bet than Stacy McBangingChads.

darksoldierk · 2017-02-25T01:26:19+00:00

The beta gets the things that men could care about equally as sex, but not more. In other words, if you imagine a weigh scale, with sex on one side, it would require all of her other qualities to be favorable to the guy, and all of them to be put on the other side in order of the scale in order for the weigh scale to even out. Since all of her other traits are favorable. It's extremely rare for her to have enough other qualities that are favorable to the man.

"her best" to a man includes her best years, physically. Take that out of the equation, and by definition, she's not at her best.

Alth12 · 2017-02-25T02:17:40+00:00

I look at it as her lacking self control over impulses previously. Same as someone who is an alcoholic etc. There's a saying in addiction you're never an ex addict always a recovering one. She's a addicted to something, sex, variety of partners, the adrenaline rush from the risk, or the feeling of giving an eff you to 'society', whatever, but if she's slept with a LOT of guys somethings there.

If she's slept with a LOT of guys it's not as easy as flipping a switch into happy monogamy land. There's a reason why marriages with either party having a high partner count fail so often.

If they're honest about it it can put a seed of distrust, They're on a hen/stag do in a foreign country, with strippers, in a sexually charged atmosphere, are they going to slip? Extreme example but even every day things would make you worry more than you would otherwise.

Even if they don't tell you, like all recovering addicts put in certain situations enough times, and the chancd they'll mess up gets higher and higher and if you find out its over, if not the first time eventually.

My issue is that people take the attitude there's no consequence to actions, that it's okay to sleep with absurd amounts of people because they can flip a switch and become perfect LTR material just like that. Emotionally she probably is giving her best, sexually it's case by case. I just don't think her best would be good enough.

Carkudo · 2017-02-25T02:27:20+00:00

Unless you live in one of those places with fucked up family law, there's nothing "bad" about betabux. It's just not an attractive prospect for men - you get to pay a shitload of money and endure a shitload of stress for something that more and more men apparently find to be not worth the price. You're not going to experience love. You're not going to experience good sex. She's not going to have your back when you stumble. So, why would anyone want that?

rulenumber303 · 2017-02-25T03:10:21+00:00

Nothing. I mean obviously there's hazards to casual sex... but that's her risk to manage and nowadays most manage it well. And obviously having had a lot of sexual partners changes a person, but it does so in complex ways that are more neutral than they are good or evil.

If there are guys who aren't getting laid until their thirties, and even then only at the cost of full commitment, then those guys need to take responsibility for the fact that their whole lives they have done very little to make themselves sexually attractive other than learn how to earn an income. That's something they did to themselves. They certainly don't have to go off and commit to anyone now if they don't want to, but blaming women for the fact they didn't get sex or commitment until their thirties is bullshit...men who earn decent money or show a bit of self-starting behavior with the clear prospect of earning decent money and have some sort of attractiveness to them are snapped up very fast quite early on.

I mean seriously what did those guys want... some woman to marry them while they are an unattractive pimply pasty socially inept student who spends any moment he isn't studying on playing games and wanking to porn? What has she got if once she commits he decides he don't even have to bother with school and employment just like he decided he didn't need to bother with physical activity and becoming socially competent? No resources to live a good life and maybe raise kids, and an unattractive man she can't even console herself by fucking. Might as well kill herself now, life is over.

That's the thing, guys here go on and on about how you can judge people's futures by their past. Well you can also extrapolate people's past from their present too. Is he socially inept and physically undeveloped? Does he have no topic of conversation other than computer games? Whoop, I know what he's spent the last five to ten years of his life doing... porn and gaming while making sure he gets good marks to keep momma off his back about his porn and gaming. Without parental pressure and legal requirement he probably never would have bothered much with schooling either. He's got a ten year history of unmanly behavior, starting as soon as he was adolescent enough to put up a fight against being made to do things he didn't want to do.

To guys like that all I gotta say is that Chad easily walks all over you to get to those girls and that is not the girls' fault that they prefer Chad. It is your fault for being as low value as you could get away with and not have your mother make your life miserable.

[deleted] · 2017-02-25T03:57:11+00:00

->implying they are capable of settling

GoldPisseR · 2017-02-25T05:18:31+00:00

Because sexual monogamy is the core tenet of a relationship.And if you don't marry the most exciting best sex of your life it'll inevitably fail or be underwhelming at least.

LUClEN · 2017-02-25T06:39:52+00:00

Because the guy she settles with isn't her first choice. He's who she chooses when she can't get a commitment from the others.

People don't like being second fiddle.

whostonedtx · 2017-02-25T07:18:07+00:00

Not redpill or blue pill but a lot of younger women (20s and under) have this fantasy of being able to get the bad boy to fall in love with her and change for her and they can grow together sort of thing. You hear about it in songs and movies etc it's like Society romanticizes this idea of getting a player to settle down. While some women do achieve this a lot of them get heartbroken in the process. So they date/fuck someone else to forget about them and act like they don't care. What better way to show you've moved on and don't care than with a new man?

Again I blame society for portraying this idea of "not caring is cool" having no emotions is cool, maybe deep down a few women want to have relationships and settle down but guys have called them "clingy" and "crazy" "obsessed" etc this goes both ways so you have two people downplaying their feelings and playing games.

Ultramegasaurus · 2017-02-25T08:11:30+00:00

They treat the guy they're settling down with like dogshit.

Merger-Arbitrage · 2017-02-25T09:17:45+00:00

Of course women would wanna fuck hot guys who are good for fucking

Hot guys =/= good for fucking. Good fucking and hot guys aren't a guaranteed positive correlation.

This is a cheap shitpost. By former troll under a new alias.

IIHotelYorba · 2017-02-25T10:02:18+00:00

I don't think it's bad.

the alphas only get the casual sex, while the betas get everything from her, her best!

...Alphas get eveything they want. The "bad boy" stereotype is just an example of how far women are willing to go to be with an alpha. There are plenty of alphas of every stripe. It generally just means they're comfortable being the center of attention. They don't have to be a career criminal, a giant steroidal brawler, or a John Wayne impersonator with a giant gold belt buckle.

Anyone can have more alpha traits, this is why I advocate for them. It's not to point and laugh at betas, it's to warn about the downside of deciding to make decisions that cast you as beta. It's a route most men think is "safe," but is often harder, self defeating, or in worst cases even isolating.

rreliable · 2017-02-25T10:52:20+00:00

Nothing wrong with it. I'm no misogynist. If it makes you happy, keep doing it and vice versa.

fredgravy · 2017-02-25T13:17:20+00:00

And once they get comfortable and don't want to fuck their ltr?

I guess you are choosing to ignore that part..

[deleted] · 2017-02-25T19:53:00+00:00

Who wants to feel settled for?

Who wants to settle down with a slut?

Not I.

despisedlove2 · 2017-02-26T01:58:26+00:00

Nothing, if the said number of Chads are less than 3.

lilchaoticneutral · 2017-02-27T20:23:05+00:00

It's easy and most women do it. We're wired to enjoy novelty. A beautiful woman who saves her self is pure palladium. Same for a man but I know more men like this than women. Like in the Bible Saul says "only 1 out of a hundred men was noble among them, but of women I could only find 1 of 1000 who were upright"

[deleted] · 2017-02-27T20:38:17+00:00

It's not bad, but most guys don't want to be her last choice after she gave her youth and energy to others, but only settled because of other benefits.

We want to be loved and lusted for, too, you know? I really don't understand why you're even asking, OP. Isn't it obvious that it's possible that some men (in this case most) wouldn't like to live knowing that they aren't sexually attractive enough? Like, don't you see that the girl of their dreams is unlikely a girl who was passed around by other guys and then settled?

Me2_0 · 2017-02-28T16:16:33+00:00

Dont you people fucking work out? I'm sorry but if you cant fuck your wife hard enough, you need to hit the gym.

Obviously communication helps to see how hard she actually wants it.

[deleted] · 2017-02-24T21:24:35+00:00

The actual answer is nothing, I don't care about other people's relationships, but those relationships are generally based on compromise and the man settling for less than the woman's physical best and offering his commitment in exchange for the woman settling for something she is less attracted to compared with those guys. I wouldn't look down on two people, both of whom are attractive, have been extremely promiscuous in the past coming together in a very genuine way, but what you describe here is not pretty to look at.

Title	What's so bad about women fucking a string of "Chads" then settling down with a guy who wants a relationship?
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Date	February 24, 2017 9:10 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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