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What was your first real world experience that really made you swallow the pill?

by TheShearerComplex | December 18, 2018 | askTRP

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For me it was my first girlfriend where the light switch effect was so clear.

She started a new job and hit it off with a guy there, who wasn’t really that interested in her (he was going through a new girl a week). Overnight her behaviour towards me changed from talking of marriage, to “not being ready for a relationship right now”.

She came crawling back a couple years later after riding the carousel for a few years but it was already too late. However, at the time I was soo confused, how I could go from the “one” to an almost stranger to her. It made no logical sense. It messed with my head for quite a few months (I hadn’t come across redpill at the time).

Then slowly ready the sidebar hit home exactly what had happened and hit me like a train.


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Title What was your first real world experience that really made you swallow the pill?
Author TheShearerComplex
Upvotes 268
Comments 157
Date 18 December 2018 03:09 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]hatethiscity247 points248 points  (17 children) | Copy

My ex wife was my first love. We met at 19 and got married at 21. I was naive and insanely insecure. Our relationship was insanely codependent and I derived a lot of my self worth and identity from the relationship. We had our ups and downs but always were committed. When I was 24, she started hanging out with an old friend from high school (guy). Like a light switch, our conversations about the future changed and she was increasingly more disrespectful. 2 months after her reunion she left me for her friend and tried to screw me financially in the divorce. Icing on the cake is she needed me to move out so her boyfriend could move in.

I'm certain she doesn't even reflect on our marriage or even consider how her actions affected me. She most likely is still the same superficial selfish insecure bitch.

[–][deleted] 94 points95 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's great. I love when those bitches suffer 😀

[–]One_time_back_when29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds very familiar

[–]Killmepls201815 points16 points  (11 children) | Copy

hey, i am in a similar situation, my gf did a half branch swing after 2.5 years of ltr and planing our future together. I told her the first time about my depression and childhood problems 3 month prior to our break up. Guess that was the mistake. Anyways, do you think that women generally regret their branch swinging, especially if you do well in future? i know its a bit childish to think about it and life isnt fair but still want that bitch to suffer like your ex. I think everybody believes that they are special, but i was special, i was dominant, confident, funny, caring, good looking for her smv etc. and just fucked the part up with my psychological problems.

[–]hatethiscity45 points46 points  (4 children) | Copy

Oh I completely know that my ex wife. When my ex-wife left me, I was unemployed and taking way too many classes towards a chemical engineering degree at a competitive school. During that time , money was tight and I guess I wasn't seen as a provider because she had no way of seeing the bigger picture.

I now make a nice 6 figure salary , I'm 8% bf (although I've always been lean), I stopped thinking I'm special and I'm totally okay with the fact that in the grand scheme of things I'm fairly meaningless. I have an incredibly strong frame and I've tried working through therapy to realize that not all women are like my ex-wife. But to be honest I've dated too many girls that are just looking for the next best thing. I've also pushed away many girls that probably were good for me , but I considered my value higher than theirs. Overall my life, friend group, and happiness is all way better after taking trp.

Honestly I dont think most women even reflect on their behavior unless their situation ends up for the worse. Then they just look st themselves like a victim

[–]HoneyXBoy16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Its these experiences that make us grow in life. Glad to hear you got back on your feet and experienced a lot of women. One thing you realize once quantity is achieved, is quality when you see it. You no longer have oneitis and actually know how to grade a woman's quality.

Very inspiring, keep being strong. Peace

[–]Winning__0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is what I really learned here. How to grade women. It’s been really helpful

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

They can't help it, it's nature for em

[–]mynameismcfly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly I dont think most women even reflect on their behavior unless their situation ends up for the worse. Then they just look at themselves like a victim

every, single, time. And it's why the cycle with these types of women always continue

[–]Ramesses_19 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy

Women are wired for short term decision making. They aren't thinking clearly or logically when they make these decisions, they are rewarding their own emotional impulses which are essentially selfishly based. Women are born with an inbuilt feeling of responsibility to secure the best deal for themselves. Not you, not their partners, not their friends, not their parents. Themselves. And later on for their children. Even women who we would not consider selfish are still dedicated to this cause.

So their decision making is emotionally fueled, based on getting what's best for them and with no real long term planning. It's literally about how they feel in the moment. She meets someone "better" (could just be new/different) who she thinks she has a chance with and due to hypergamy she is compelled to do what it takes to get this new/better opportunity. But the female end game is the lockdown. If she attempts to branch swing and fails to lock him down she will experience pain, regret, even panic and desperately look to whatever branch she thinks she can get safely back onto. Ex's are the path of least resistance: she knows she locked you down once before so you're the fastest potential route to getting back that security. Unfortunately she hasn't come crawling back because you're special.

So yes they do suffer, absolutely, but it won't be in a permanent ongoing state like what we experience. After you reject them they move on to the next and then to the next until they finally get their lockdown. And in the meantime they can fill the hole with a thousand tinder cocks. So the only way they'll "regret" it is if you are on their radar and obviously better than who they currently have locked down. As soon as you're off the radar they're not experiencing that any more. And if they find a man they perceive as better than you than your relationship might well have never existed (except for the occasional fishing for attention/validation).

[–]ResentfulMofo7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

How sad is that? I can run into a woman who’s on the same level as my girl once a month who’s giving me signals she’s attracted to me and curve them without too much thought, but the day my bitch meets a dude who’s a bit higher than me who she thinks she has a shot at commitment with, she will basically forget about all our history in a matter of weeks probably.

It’s a very depressing thought honestly. I have been with my LTR for 7 years now and constantly improving but who knows when my time will be up. I can only hope I can continually raise my SMV and lower the chances of it happening.

[–]Ramesses_6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

How sad is that? I can run into a woman who’s on the same level as my girl once a month who’s giving me signals she’s attracted to me and curve them without too much thought, but the day my bitch meets a dude who’s a bit higher than me who she thinks she has a shot at commitment with, she will basically forget about all our history in a matter of weeks probably.

It's not quite that black and white but yes it does suck dude. They aren't like us. You've just got to appreciate them for what they are, what joy they do bring. And don't forget as time goes on your SMV remains fairly stable (assuming you keep in shape) while hers sharply declines. When marriage works it's because of this - she can't get anyone better than you because the better dudes out there are going for hotter and younger. When a woman feels like you're her absolute best option and that she's lucky to have you she can be VERY devoted. Female devotion is indistinguishable from male love apart from the loyalty and permanence aspect.

It’s a very depressing thought honestly. I have been with my LTR for 7 years now and constantly improving but who knows when my time will be up. I can only hope I can continually raise my SMV and lower the chances of it happening.

What are your ages? If you're into your 30s you will be absolutely fine if you two break up (after the pain). You'll be out banging women the same age as she was when you met her and she'll have no shot at the types of guys she could have gotten 7 years ago.

The real lesson here is a life lesson: we just aren't in control of as much as we think we are. She could leave, of course she could leave. She could cheat on you, you could lose your job, you could lose your legs, anything could happen. But you can't live with a defeatist attitude. No matter how fast things can fade away you've got to make the best of where you are right now.

And don't forget that while breakups absolutely do hurt it's almost never too late to start again and to do so even better. You'll have all the accumulated knowledge, experience and improvement and you can start things off on the right foot with whoever's next. Whether you guys stay together or not you can have a great life.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

They’ll regret branch swinging if it doesn’t pan out to be a better branch. If the new guy leaves them for example, or if he ends up in finance trouble while your finances get better, it the new guy becomes a slob while you become super fit, etc

[–]MisterSexy111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I sneaked over to RedPillWomen one time to see what TRP was like for them, and one of them posted their own saying: “If you want to be the wife of a general, marry a lieutenant.”

TRP women are aware of their own hypergamous nature, so they stay loyal to their man...if he has he has long term potential, which makes one question if it’s really loyalty but that’s not the point.

To answer your question, yes. Women who are not self aware who branch swing do regret their decision later on, and it’s such a sweet, satisfying moment when they come crawling back.

[–]sonnydanger2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Happens to the best of us. My last LTR was the reason why i found TRP. Basically the same as you OP, light switch effect, it was over within two months and came begging back a year later. By then i was deep in TRP and improved my SMV ten fold.

[–]flapjacksrbetter0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Im surprised u didnt flex on her

[–]AstuteBlackMan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This must've been traumatic for you but the ending makes it so sweet

[–]russiantrolldoll62 points63 points  (17 children) | Copy

Started dating an extremely beautiful and sexy 10. Everything about her was perfect, her voice, personality, best sex of my life even to this day.

Before dating her I never knew what borderline personality disorder was. I don't even have to describe the nightmare of the next 5 years to anyone here.

[–]ttann7129 points30 points  (2 children) | Copy

The crazy ones always give the best sex just facts

[–]bwoodski9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unfortunately that's too true

[–]MisterSexy110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This.

[–]kendallb18310 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

BPD will show you a layer of hell these guys cant even comprehend unless they have been raped by it.

[–]Shittybillyall8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lived that nightmare for a year. Never again

[–]send_it_for_the_boys6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy

Mine was an 8, lasted 3ish months. Went in with the strongest frame and idgaf I’ve ever had, came out barely remembering who I was. Stay clear boys.

[–]slifer31 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

what did she do that 'damaged' you?

[–]send_it_for_the_boys1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Narcced me pretty good, and Slowly but surely chiseled my frame away until I couldn’t even remember what frame was. It’s definitely my fault for allowing it to happen, and not staying on my shit, but at the same time I don’t remember even noticing, I just woke up one day like what the fuck is happened to my mindset, and a month later I still can’t seem to get back, I even have a lot of abundance, self confidence, hit the gym all the time making great progress. I’m just unhappy, I’ve gotten extremely resentful and built up a bit of an attitude that it isn’t helping me one bit.

[–]slifer30 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

so she gaslight u or whatever? hopefuly u get in the right mindset with time

[–]send_it_for_the_boys0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

She most definitely gaslighted me

[–]slifer30 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

would u mind giving me examples of what she did or said? if you dont want to its aight

[–]send_it_for_the_boys1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah, let’s say if I passed shit tests she would get angry. “I did fail on some comfort tests as well but who gives a fuck”. If she disrespected me or tried getting to me and I ignored it or played it off idgaf and wasn’t phased she would get pissed, she went like 3 days saying one word responses to me “in attempt to get me to get on my knees and whine and beg to her” she went from in the beginning “I just love how you speak your mind and do things and your a dick but your not really a dick” to trying to use being a cunt to get me to kiss up to her, and then tried crying and ranting how I’ve destroyed her and hurt her feelings and she can’t blah blah. Needless to say she may have cheated on me idk I really don’t care. She also got upset about her ex bf getting engaged and wants to talk about it with me? I ended it there. Didn’t talk to her for 2 days she whine and begged and begged and I gave in and took her back and that was about when it the disrespect really started, she was uncontrollable, girls are moody bitches, but she may be fine and take a nap for an hour and wake up from a dream of me cheating and hate me and legit accuse me of it she was most definitely an insecure controlling narcissist. I knew her 8 months and could write you a novel. Sad thing is I had 3 good plates and her before I got into ltr and they all hit me up when they found out I was single but I can’t even talk to them correctly and it was even worse that TRP got quarantined like a week into my LTR so not having fully internalized the pill being out in battle fucked me up. I took good lessons from it all though, just let myself get too vulnerable.

[–]volvostupidshit0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This is why men who think they can tame cluster Bs because they think they are just the same with normal girls are delusional or need some experience.

[–]send_it_for_the_boys0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

True that

[–]CopAPhil2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Baby momma has BPD. Wouldn’t wish my worst enemy to date someone with that shit. She never tried to help herself and I’m surprised we made it as far as we did. Unfortunately still gotta deal with her crazy ass.

[–]russiantrolldoll2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh I know. Most of them won’t even accept that they have it because they are too narcissistic to acknowledge they aren’t perfect. And the ones that do accept it go on to use it as an excuse for their shitty behavior. Unless someone is prepared to save that hoe and force feed therapy and all that shit for the slight chance of getting her to act right then they are just hopeless monsters out to fucking make people go crazy.

[–]audiotrack97 points98 points  (5 children) | Copy

I look at Red pill more from a self improvement perspective than the game and woman.

Still i am amazed how mainly dominace, leading, keeping frame, confidence and abundance works perfectly.

My relationships at work are better. With family too. Personal happiness is much higher since i am not nice guy anymore. For other People is better too for me to stay how i am right now. Disarming shit tests from women makes them giggle. Dominace in bed is So cool i would have never thoght. And they like it. Teasing girls is fun and they like it. Talking to random People is fun because i make it fun. Today i worked out with girl who did heavy squats and she said my presence is fun and weight is lighter. And Yes lifting ftw

When i think about stuff i wrote down every Time i take Red pill

[–]Killmepls20182 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

how did you improved your self so much? i think i suffer from giving people that i dont know bad vibes. Any books/posts/actions you would recommend?

[–]audiotrack23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

For me the road could be categorized into something you may knew already:

unconscious incompetence - this was my BP days with my wife until I got divorced (massive oneitis)

conscious incompetence - when I read all the books, side bar, articles, meditated and generally STFU and lift

conscious competence - I started applying what I learned to the extreme - just for the exercise without any hopes t o get the girl etc. for example I invited girls to come to my place after short convo (never worked but got my nerves calmed cause rejection does not matter), going for a kiss close far too soon (always rejected but it does matter) started talking to people at my gym, never DEERed to my wife anymore (eg she asked why I don't want to do something and I always replied because I don't want)

unconscious competence - for me it is not possible to reach that stage right now cause still I am thinking in RP terms sometimes when interacting with people (eg with girls with which I talk or have sex sometimes I tease them playfully sometimes give comfort and just after that give dirty talk) maybe someday it will be ingrained forever, an example would be something I will remember for a long time cause it hit me in the head: after sex with girl we were resting with music in the background and neither of us were talking, after some time she asked my what I am thinking about, and I remember how it triggered RP cache to come to my brain and recognized this is a kind of shit test to which in BP days I would reply sth like this about how beautiful you are or somebull shit, this time I said I am just wondering if I can fuck you one more time today (it was 1h sex for me very long), she started to giggle and we kissed

do you think you have good sense of humour? It's quite important in my case I would say

what also helped me is meditation and mindfullness

mindfulness means you are in the moment

for example I type this post and stop for a while to listen to sounds around me and smell scents and feel keyboard under my skin

this transfers to interactions with people cause when I am talking to them I know when I am overthinking so I can stop this immediately and just be myself (and don't fear any kind of rejection becauses I know I will handle all kinds of rejections and rejection does not matter anyway)

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

don't be a dick, just be stoic and laid back

[–]wildtimes30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Learn about funny. Be funny. Stand up comedy basics are a must IMO. If your mind is finding the funny in every situation, you’re more fun to be around.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-up_comedy

Stand-up joke

In stand-up comedy, a "canned" joke[40][41] is made of a "premise...point of view" and "twist" ending.[42][43] A joke contains the least amount of information necessary to be conveyed, understood, and laughed at;[44][45] the setup contains the information needed by the audience in order to understand the punchline.[46][47] Most of stand-up comedy's jokes are the juxtaposition of two incongruous things.[52] According to the founding editor of The Onion, there are eleven types of jokes.[53] Stand-up comedians will normally deliver their jokes in the form of a typical joke structure, using comedic timing to deliver the setup and then the punch line.[54] Stand-ups will normally frame their stories as having happened "recently."[55] The comedian's delivery of a joke—the pause, inflection, "ener[gy]," and look—is "everything".[56] Comedians often include taglines (dependent punchlines that follow another punchline)[57] and toppers (independent afterthoughts that follow a punchline).[58][59] Some sources may use tags, toppers, and afterthoughts as synonyms.[60]

[–]jakethesnake5000125 points126 points  (10 children) | Copy

Got dumped by a plate and chased. Ignored and she came back but i said I didn’t want her and she got obsessive.

Most recent is divorce: wife said she would never take my money now the bitch is getting caked off my hard work

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (1 child) | Copy

That sucks man... I’ve just survived a divorce myself... definitely taken a hit to my standard of living and finances

[–]jakethesnake500010 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

It happens. I learned my lessons

[–]singingonthetrain 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Do prenups not do it anymore? Is there a way to get married and not have finances at risk in case of divorce?

[–]Nicolas06318 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep with proper contract. But if you make childs in many country, married or not you'll have to pay for that.

[–]golgynat0r2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

nothing is guarranteed

[–]hatethiscity12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

I feel your pain man. I will NEVER legally get married again. I made this very clear with my current girlfriend. We can have a wedding and exchange rings, but no one will ever get me to sign a contract in a courthouse that legally fucks a man over.

[–]geo_gan1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I thought even bullshit drunken Las Vegas marriages were considered legally binding and real? Certainly any church wedding is isn’t it.

[–]hatethiscity2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Depends on the state and whether paperwork js signed or not. As long as there isn't any documentation, it cant be upheld.

[–]ElegantCyclist11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most recent is divorce: wife said she would never take my money now the bitch is getting caked off my hard work

Don't get married, people.

[–]YoungManHHF0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

damn dude

[–]ghcortez35238 points39 points  (2 children) | Copy

I never really had to swallow anything. Reading TRP philosophy clarified a lot of issues I didn’t understand, but it it wasn’t a bitter realization. I was motivated to learn because I dated the girl I loved and she LJBF'd and blew me off for another guy because I acted like a beta faggot. I played “friend” for three weeks until she announced she was fucking someone else in front of me.

[–]SupremeBBC2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow bro. That's some heavy shit right there.

[–]account_for_rel2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus christ, same story here!
For a week I was confused that whether it was okay for her to casually tell me that she slept with this dude and it was amazing, coz you know we were technically 'friends'... but my brain was absolutely fried. And I realized, it was NOT okay. I was NOT her 'friend'. I was being dishonest. I was hoping for a chance by being a friend. And now I know, thats never gonna work. lol

[–]vullnet12378 points79 points  (3 children) | Copy

My ex girlfriend. Showed me nature of women. Changed me for the better.

[–]KinkysMT14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same.

[–]HeWhoContinues3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same here

[–]Wedidntdoshitreddit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

same.

[–]FlexGunship35 points36 points  (4 children) | Copy

For me it was cumulative.

I noticed that reality was nothing like what people kept claiming. If I listened to all of the good and decent people in my life (and there are plenty of them) I could predict about half of my future... Something had to account for all of the huge discrepancies.

The "nice guy" thing was the first to go. Then the respect for "political correctness". For a while, I became completely disillusioned with females, and just kind of got whatever I wanted and moved on.

I found "the red pill" well after I had single-handedly recreated many of it's "teachings".

Useful set of rules. I have my own brand that I live by. I want a family and have a great girlfriend. TRP was just one quick stop on a lifelong journey of personal-reinvention.

[–]the1pope5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

How did you handle it singlehandedly bro, before you took the pill?

[–]FlexGunship9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

I used to be jaded by successful people (which is what society, weirdly, seems to suggest you should do)... I just flipped a switch and started admiring them.

One of the first books I read was "Who Says Elephants Can't Dance?" by Lou Gerstner (former CEO of IBM). I had almost no interest, but forced myself to read through it. It was good, by the end. But it was TOTALLY alien to me. Like, I didn't even understand the mentality or language in the book. And that was enough to tell me I didn't understand shit about being successful.

Little things like that. And they spiral.

Observe and internalize.

Downside is that no one is harder on me than I am on myself. I have to remind myself to talk to myself like a friend would.

(At the risk of sounding like an arrogant prick, I'm also the most successful person in my immediate circle of friends and in my immediate family... It's a good thing, but it means I have to always hunt for role models.

Btw, that doesn't mean I don't love and respect the people in my life. My parents are amazing human beings.)

[–]the1pope0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

'It's a good thing, but it means I have to always hunt for role models.' Who are some of your role models that actually inspire you mentally, emotionally, financially and in game in general? Thanks for the reply man, itreally means a lot.

[–]FlexGunship3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lately, Elon Musk. Even Trump (maybe not in the way you're thinking).

My first aspirational role model was probably Christopher Hitchens. The dude is (was) relentless, clever, educated, well-spoken... You get the idea.

I started reading "self-help" books, but not the Chicken-Soup-type shit. I read "Influence" by Cialdini. "How to Win Friends..." by Carnegie. And these guys became role models, briefly.

Oh, that's another thing. Don't keep a role model for too long. I've never heard anyone say that. You can always come back later for extra inspiration, but you're not trying to become a mindless zombie clone... You're your own person. How you pick which traits you want to integrate into yourself is "who you really are" in my opinion.

Right now I'm trying to leach some leadership off my boss, the VP. He's damned good. Not perfect. Aimless sometimes. But never pushed around. He's really quick and it's hard to get a hit on him.

My longest term role model is definitely my dad. He's one of the hardest working, most genuinely good people that I've ever known. I haven't gotten enough from him, yet. But I also don't think he'd last long in my current job. So, another case of trying to get just the traits I want.

Anyway, books are great sources for role models because the people who write them have tried to cut out their shitty traits and distill their narrative down to something you want to have be a part of you.

Lastly, you can be your own role model. When you do something good, or particularly effectively, you should remember it. We, as normal humans, have a huge range of capability... From awesome to shitty. When you nail it, you should try to hold yourself to that standard. It doesn't come automatically. Just because you rocked it on Tuesday doesn't mean Wednesday comes naturally.

Having yourself as a role model has the perk of "self-support". I know I'm crazy hard on myself in my own head, so looking up to myself for something I've done is an important thing for me to be able to do.

[–]WillSalt130 points131 points  (4 children) | Copy

No specific event. Mostly curiosity. I see red pill as a useful perspective and not something to follow religiously.

[–]Rkingpin39 points40 points  (1 child) | Copy

Agreed. It fits with my ideas of how men should operate

[–]PhenomDaLord6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same. I think it was just the nature of being a man that helped formed the ideals I had and then I discovered redpill and the "manosphere."

Finding theredpill for me was just affirmation w/ bonus material and a cheat sheet.

[–]BloodSurgery1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can relate, I didn't had any relevant experience that made me swallow the red pill since I'm very young. Simply discovered the subreddit, thought it made sense, and have been here for a year and a bit more.

[–]kybervoid0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

agreed

[–]I_Dont_Type57 points58 points  (5 children) | Copy

Acid red pilled me. The differences between men and women were clear as day when I took it. Afterwards I remembered something about a sexist subreddit that attempts to explain women, and here I am today.

[–]_Tactleneck_19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

Nice. I too had overhead from my soon to be Ex that someone she knew was reading up on “asshole redpill subreddit crap”. Months later when I was getting ready to leave her, I knew where to turn to better myself.

Edit: I also enjoy a deliberate trip for the high quality reflection

[–]the1pope3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I bet you never looked back since 😄

[–]_Tactleneck_5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You got it.

[–]axxxman2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

First time I did acid, I ended up on Reddit in the afterglow. I remember wondering why I had never noticed why the threads were spirals.

[–]CryptoNShit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I take everything on acid with a grain of salt, but when I did acid with my ex I thought she was evil or something. I think she acts stereotypically how the jezebel spirit acts, which is what I now believe I caught up on. At the time I just blamed it on the acid and never thought of it again.

I don't think she has BPD but I'm positive she was a legitimate narcissist. Do I think she is evil? Yeah all narcisists are evil in their core.

[–]rubenescaray75 points76 points  (3 children) | Copy

Met a girl in college, started hitting it off but I my BPD old self ruined with too much attention.

Later I found out she was sleeping with a guy in my own building, one night I heard a women yelling, crying and calling for her mother.

The same girl was being forced into more sex with this guy (both drunk, she drunkier), she wanted to leave, he didn't want to stop.

I went out and asked what whas happening and she only looked at me, and went back to the apartment of the guy and they both ignored me.

Since that day I stopped looking at women like princesses that can do no wrong, a few weeks later I found out the main sub.

AWALT.

[–]tallwheel18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

"She wanted to leave". Yeah. Sure she did. :)

[–]cluelessguitarist13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus man thats fucked up

[–]frmisunderstood21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

😂

[–]renfsu23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

Was extremely beta with a girlfriend for 5 months, who waited until I got sent to do disaster relief for a hurricane to dump me over snapchat. Turns out she had a plate during the relationship and chilled with him as soon as I left. Felt broken but after reading on trp, I don't blame her. She shit tested me many times a day and I failed every single one of them.

[–]pimptendo20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was a blue pilled cuck. I was engaged to my highschool sweetheart, which almost destroyed my connection with my best friend. We were together for four and a half years and she left me to fuck a friend of mine 2 hours away. Talked to my best friend about it and he turned me to the red pill. It helped me get over how badly I was burned.

[–]_Tactleneck_17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

Was in an LTR for about 2.5 years at the time. We were struggling but I believed I was doing all the normal things to make things better. Was mowing the grass outside after cleaning the house all day and she came back from lunch and started yelling at me for eating her leftovers.

I knew life wasn’t supposed to be like that, so I started digging and digging until I found TRP. Sidebar posts and books was like a revelation. That was 3.5 years ago.

[–]edivadd0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How’s going with ltr and what changed in your relationship?

[–]_Tactleneck_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That relationship ended about 8 months later. I went hard red after being blue the entire time and she cheated on me.

Being able to emotionally detach/A&A/etc helped me gain back some control over the relationship at first. But as I worked more on me, I became so angry that instead of stepping in and acknowledging we needed to break up, I just kept turning up the heat until it all burned down.

It needed to end and life’s way better now, but looking back I should have ended it earlier. I was just being petty and smashing everything to pieces out of revenge, not a good path to take my friend.

[–]desistrategist16 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy

my aunt plotted to murder my uncle (and she did, ordered a hit by someone else) so that she could control all his assets once he's gone. True story. My family witnessed the whole botched up alibi / drama unfolded for more than 20 days as my uncle (a true gentleman, RIP) was reported missing by us, until the cops recovered his body dumped in a nearby village (his throat was slit). Luckily, the assailants who dumped my uncles car at a secluded spot were captured on a CCTV and one of the accomplices in that footage was my aunt's very close friend.

If hate / money can drive a woman to insanity while being in a relationship with a sane guy (RIP uncle), then I don't wish to get married at all.

[–]Deathrow222 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

What in tarnation bruh wtf

[–]desistrategist1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

you know what's surprising. They were married for 32 years and she committed the crime at the age of 52! Police are declaring the motive as money while we (family) agree it was a hate crime. She just hated my uncle's guts that she separated from him for like 5-6 years before his untimely death, lived in a different city, meanwhile plotting to take him out. Some of my beta male family members are still in disbelief as aunt being a woman gets the benefit of doubt.

[–]MisterSexy110 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What happened to the aunt? I’m going to punch a fucking hole in the wall if she didn’t end up in jail.

[–]desistrategist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She is currently in jail, but there is a plot twist. The police discovered the slain body of my uncle and disposed it after 5 days, they took photos of the crime scene and of his body. My aunts' lawyer is convincing her son (my cousin) to deny to admit that its his dad's body and report his dad as missing. No crime - no kill - aunt walks out of prison. Not so easy but their defense is finding all sinister ways for her quick release.

[–]ttann7134 points35 points  (4 children) | Copy

Had oneitis for a LDR, believed in that Disney b.s, now she’s engaged. My mistake, won’t happen again.

[–]ToiletPaperPringles18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

At least you’re not the one engaged.

[–]ttann7113 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

True. And that guy is screwed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I hade huge oneitis man for my ex. We were friends for a year or more before we dated (she had a bf). I legitimately was on a holiday in the US and thought the whole time how my life would be complete. Sure enough we eventually dated and I found the experience to be extremely unrewarding and shit. Looking back - oneitis was such a shit thing I can safely say that I will never get it again.

[–]ttann711 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This chick was already with someone, I was the side bitch. The dude she is engaged too now is the same person she has been with the entire time. I know of at least one other dude she cheated on him with. Like Neo I’m out here dodging bullets.

[–]kingoldmaster 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Got cheated on the night I told her one of my family members passed away. This was by the same girl who dumped me 6 months prior because of 'commitment issues', but later came begging for me to take her back after not being able to score with anyone else - which I stupidly did.

I was such a fucking blue pilled idiot during that time. Honestly I was overall more optimistic but I was young (18). Now, I have a single plate at university which is completely for the purpose of stress release, I spend a lot more time with my bros and have made massive gains in the gym over the past ~3 years. Red pill is the way bros. Live for yourself, not some life force sucking leech you think you love.

[–]Soupses 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Take my advice and do not cuff that single plate while in college. Get another plate asap, she will want commitment eventually.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (5 children) | Copy

I would say reading ‘The Game’. By Neil Strauss was the spark...

[–]0ggles3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Checked the book out at the local library when it came out. Puzzled on the Bible look at first, now I understand.

[–]DiscordantMonk2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same!

[–]epiigram300 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ditto

[–]mickey__-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

How?

[–]xKo1727 points28 points  (1 child) | Copy

When a plate said she liked me after a few months and I responded basically with Im not sure if I want a LTR. She proceeds to fuck Chad later that week and the entire dynamic falls through. I sort of had oneitis and was sort of butt hurt but absolutely amazed at her behavior. I told myself I would never get so invested in a woman that only aroused me sexually EVER again.

[–]boomcheese440 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She was a plate, you didn't care about her. And she moved on when you said you didn't want a LTR. Did you expect her to pine when she could do better?

[–]Hazkinz11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Girlfriend of over 5 years left me on Mother's Day. I basically took care of her, helped her out a lot, put up with more shit than I should have, she hardly helped me with anything, and a few other things. Basically, I put way more energy into the relationship than what I got out of it. I am not great with women and usually shy so this was my first relationship. Where I had always told myself if I ever had a girlfriend, I would do my best to treat her the best I can and to try to avoid arguments and try to discuss them like mature adults (basically avoid yelling/screaming, but this obviously backfired).

After dealing with all of that, she moved out at her own convenience and then left me. I always wondered why would this happen to me after all I have done. I eventually listened to the audiobook "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Dr. Robert A. Glover. That helped me open my eyes. I haven't swallowed the red pill entirely, but I am still learning.

[–]snaptogrid22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy

No need for me to "get red-pilled." But I'm an old guy who did most of my growing up pre-feminism, so I never had to wake up from the "men and women are the same" lie. Also, I grew up with a popular older sister, so I was seeing first-hand and up close what girls are really like from the day I was born. When I look at Rollo or Heartiste or others, I'm often amused and entertained -- they're smart, funny, observant guys and writers, and god knows they have a knack for making their points vivid and striking in fresh ways. But the substance of what they're saying doesn't come as news to me -- it's just the wisdom of the ages, what all guys used to know back in the pre-feminist world.

[–]Original_Username72 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

It honestly makes me SO mad that I was raised under such a lie. It's done untold damage to my life and my daughter's life. It's hard to imagine there was a time when people generally knew how things worked between men and women. It's cool to hear that it wasn't always this way.

[–]temerity180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They didn't know. Just lucky guys with appealing sisters

[–]Freedom__Fighter21 points22 points  (2 children) | Copy

When an ex LTR went out for her friends birthday, they both said would be back home early that night by 11. No text “running late”, or “change of plans”..... ignores my messages.... comes home at 3AM wasted and a raging cunt. I made her friend drive home, she was not staying here.... I def lost frame and freaked the fuck out. Turns out they met some practice squad Patriots NFL players went back to their place to hang out, her friend “passed out” and my LTR was doing lines of coke with them, but swore she didn’t do anything with them. LMFAO. I bet you $1000 that lying cunt fucked or blew them. Needless to say, even tho I had no idea what RP was I had too much of a backbone to accept that kind of behavior. Hard next. Led me to finding TRP.

[–]askmrcia6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

All the more reason to hate the patriots lol.

I'm kidding. That's messed up. Very similar story happened to my buddy.

His girl did coke with Ohio state football players and swore up and down she didn't do anything with them.

My buddy did end up taking her back though. The girl literally has him on a spell. He's stupid but he'll learn the hard way

[–]Freedom__Fighter2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh man, that’s rough.... can’t believe he took her back. I can’t blame the football players... they’ve worked hard for their physique and are crushing it. I am pretty fit and was then as well, but I weighed 20lbs less because my workout regimen was all martial arts, very lean and ripped. Was 165 at 5’10”, I didn’t look very threatening even though I knew how to take people down and end fights quick. Now I lift and have put on considerably more muscle mass and weigh 185, 3 years later.... still working on gaining more mass. But for her she must have been wet instantly while grinding on their cocks all night at the club with their bigger muscle physiques, going back to their place to just “do coke”..... like how naive do you think I am? LOL guys just have hot chicks come back to their place to have drinks, do coke and partake in deep intellectual conversations LMAO

[–]NotoriousSnake10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oneitis at 19, she cheated with her ex

Never went through an anger stage - I was just grateful AF that I learned the truth when I did

22 now and I'm so glad I swallowed the pill

[–]sonnydanger4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wish i had found trp at 19, you're way ahead of the curve; keep it up.

[–]bigflame1238 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can you please elaborate about how she came crawling back to you after a few years? I love it when this happens, looks like pure karma.

Also I’m sorry to hear about it messing with your head for a few years, stuff like this is just depressing

[–]paperclip_of_doom21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Had probably the worst case of oneitis in human history. Stumbled upon the sub when I was "trying to win her over." I was intrigued by the content and kept lurking for a while but it didn't quite hit home yet at that point. She fucked me over bad and after a while realized that she is the perfect embodiment of everything that TRP says about women. Told her to fuck me or fuck off. Well she fucked off for good, and that day everything made perfect sense and I could remember myself literally physically running out of fucks to give and I haven't given a fuck since. I also bought my gym membership that day. It was a good day...

[–]dtyler864 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I discovered the red pill mentality naturally, entirely by experience ranging from little things with every girlfriend and me doing what I thought was best as instructed by my older sisters. Of course they told me to do stupid shit like she’s the best girl,write her love note, send her gifts, it worked out for everybody but me. After being cheated on in a long-term relationship, learning to basically just fuck and Chuck girls and seeing how the less I cared the more addicted they became it became completely obvious.

Only then at the age of 27 did I discover TRP.. now without even really trying there is a serious deal of dried game going on in every interaction I had with girls that are interested in me. I went from being dumped or cheated on to being the person that has to break it off every time.

[–]D3athN0te1016 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

My first gf dropped red pills down my throat.

I was super clingy. Hell, post breakup I actually stalked her until I got bored.

She told me I was clingy af, and to hit her up when I grew up.

In hindsight, I appreciate her honesty.

That said, appreciation wasn't my initial reaction. And I went through every stage of the Red Pill Awakening prior to even finding TRP.

  1. Denial - Immediately upon being told to grow up and stop being a clingy fuck, I became defensive. This lasted for about 3 months.
  2. Anger - Then I reached the NiceGuy phase. I had a legit hatred of women, and just looking at them made my blood boil. I was a stereotypical NiceGuy, and even had a literal beard on my neck. This lasted about 6 months.
  3. Depression - I felt powerless and confused. I'd wonder how I could improve when I didn't even know where to start. It was a catch 22, and asking for help got me "just be yourself" responses, and internet searches yielded legions of pua scams & feminists giving crap dating advice. I've never been the brightest bulb, but I know a hustle when I see one, and I knew i couldn't just keep being my old self if I wanted different results.
  4. Hope - I found MGTOW, which led me to start focusing on myself. However, it also fed my anger towards women that the frustrations of being socially inexperienced caused. 6 months ago, I left after realizing this.
  5. Acceptance - Having been working on myself for a while, and having been working in construction (initially for the lack of women), I was now physically fit and had a decent amount of F.U. Money, so I decided to go out and learn how to socialize (a milestone I'd been putting off due to fear of rejection and/or being percieved as an idiot). Upon doing so, I realized that rejection wasn't so bad. It wasn't fun, to be sure. But it wasn't the stab in the heart it used to be. What changed was thart I'd now had a sense of self worth. I had eliminated women from the equation in my MGTOW days, which led me to replace my source of validation. I now rely on my financial achievements and self development for validation. This is good, because I can control how I live my life and how much I strive to achieve. The same can not be said about women. I've accepted that rejection is just part of life, and have stopped taking it personal. Took me 3 years, but looks like I finally grew up.

All I can say is, I'm glad I stopped being a bitch by the age of 22. Some people spend their whole lives swallowing blue pills.

I doubt you'll ever see this, but thanks Tara. I owe you an apology, and my respect.

[–]enterim5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

LTR of 1,5 years, was planning my future with here. Bluepill as fuck. Having a family with her was literally the biggest source of my motivation for everything.

My mother got ill with depression and suicidal thoughts. I Took care of her 24/7 for 3 months. Business income went downhill because of this.

My LTR used the free time without me to cheat with one of my business clients ( Found it out myself, she kept denying it ) . Right before christmas. Kicked her out of my appartment immediately.

Blamed her cheating on me being distant ( Family First ) and stole around 8.000$ as well.

I had no one to talk about it, my family was already suffering because of my mother, so I just told them the relationship ended because there was no future for us.

She did not ask once afterwards how I am doing. Or if my mother is good again. Instead went straight into the relationship with the guy she cheated with.

This fucked me up quite bad and I am still struggling to cope with this. But this is how I ended up here - so I guess I am kind of thankful. Learned my lesson.

[–]robgymrat874 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fell for a hot fitness chick, had the onenitis. Definitely learned from it

[–]the1pope3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Discovered TRP a couple months now, and I'm in a LTR with this chick now, she just told me she's going to be a Sex Worker because I can't satisfy her emotionally, physically and financially. Totally gobsmacked , but I have hope everyday as I read through the sidebar and top posts from here lol. Thanks to everyone here for truly and passionately contributing to help noobs like me become the best version of their selves. Looking forward to any suggestions on any books/posts that I can read.

[–]OracleofFl3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I can help cut to the chase on this one for you: Dump her! She is nuts.

[–]the1pope0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

It's not that easy for me to atm, we both went halves on a flat. And the tenancy is due to end next year in march(my birthday month). So till then I'm gonna read and reread the sidebar and the posts on here 😂

[–]OracleofFl4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

3 to 4 months away? Simple, start lifting now and getting your life straight because this isn't going to end well. Do not go halves on a flat again. It will be March before you know it. If you are talking about March or 2020, you are a total sucker for signing a lease with anyone for that long.

[–]the1pope0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Aha nah it's march next year. And I've just signed up for a gym membership, and yh just tryna focus on myself now. I bet she will start to sense the changes herself. I realised I was being too needy and just found out it's called Oneitis 😂

[–]ramokaly7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I always had TRP tendencies due to my middle eastern upbringing but living in western EU for a long time beta-ized me. I woke up after I found myself chasing a girl with a bf who strung me along like it was her profession. She did me a favor though so I ain’t salty.

[–]RedPillAlphaBigCock2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not bragging but I always new this was the way. I grew up in Ireland was was not fed any garbage via media. Maybe I was but I was always very present - it all comes down to presence and ignoring society's BS

[–]BitingInsects3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

AWALT concept just clicks and makes sense after you think about it and it makes life easier to manage. Understanding women don't think the same way you do = win. Don't argue with them (or anyone) = win. You see guys fighting with their wives or girlfriends constantly over dumb shit. I'm sure those women wish their men had sense enough not to argue back with them and had even a little bit of this belief ingrained in them.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

To me, and I suspect a lot of people discovering the red pill later in life, it’s more the other way around: I got a whole bunch of life experiences that I struggled to make sense of (Why did this girl leave me? Why did that girl got attracted to me? Why did that girl did that?) and that you’d usually brush off as “I don’t understand women”, and then one day you stumble on the redpill and get reading and this is like someone’s just switched on the light: everything I ever experienced with women suddenly made sense.

[–]TheBigPone2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was 16 and suicidal. Cried in front of my mom because I was stressed with everything in my life and was looking for a friendly shoulder and she straight called me a pussy.

[–]2319Skew7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

I've wrote this story so many times I'll just put the cliff notes:

Fell in love with a 'good' girl that was: devout, good with family, kind, saint in the streets and whore in the sheets, virgin, strong religious moral compass, great with family and friends, attractive (picture Alicia Keys) but not insanely hot.

For awhile, things were good but every so often things would get hard. Ups and downs. Sex and me keeping frame kept it going for so long. Without knowing I was doing red pill things like creating dread (I dress well and fairly attractive so girls hit on me often - especially when married), was reserved (initially with my emotions), and worked on my dreams advancing in career and my passions. Also after fights or arguments, I made her submit to me sexually and practiced a lot of the sex god methods.

So as all things are good, I decided to have a baby with her. After almost 11 years. I figured why the fuck not. I don't trust anyone else so let's bring a child in.

I also got laid off after she got pregnant.

Now, I'm no fool and put aside around 33k for this eventuality as well as stock options and shares. At first things were OK but we're going through a recession so I don't find work right away.

It's like a switch went off. Despite the fact that I brought that money in and I found work right away the damage was done. She started to bring up things that took place 10 years, used the whole 'I just gave birth' to get her way, family and friends were on her side as she made more and more irrational things and she grew further and further away.

No sex turned to no intimacy (any form of affection) because she didn't 'trust that I loved her' and she would constantly criticize me.

Eventually, I went through a depression as I didn't want to cheat and she was giving me a no win scenario. I also was concerned because I felt like I was going crazy since society expects the woman to be right by default.

I told her that I needed some time to reflect on our marriage where she let slip that she already clocked out. I said fine and left.

Within less than 2 weeks, she went from cold to crazy. I "abandoned her" and our child and she spent the next 2 years trying to destroy me in any way she can. She tried to play mind games but I was already out and trying to make my life so she went after me through my son.

Took half of my earnings and savings and alleged that I had terrorist ties and that I beat her.

She still plays bullshit games but not as much since she looked insane from the last time she went to court. Now she's all friendly wanting to divorce without hard feelings because it's best for our son. I know she's probably found someone but isn't mature enough to admit it and instead hides behind our child and blames me for everything that happened to her.

[–]donkeydodo3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Man, bitches are crazy. I’m glad I found TRP while I’m Young, I’ll never get married

[–]2319Skew2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Said the same thing before I got married. Only difference is that I didn't have TRP so I hope that helps you stay strong and driven brother.

[–]CassWCD2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not the catalyst, but this happened at an Xmas party over the weekend. A pretty, but thicc HB 6 was there trollin for dick. I (34) engaged her properly, mostly ignoring her, fucking with her, or treating her overly entitled mannerisms like that of a 5 year old child. My purple pilled buddy engaged her with a good old fashioned “so, what do you do?”

After proudly proclaiming that she was 28, unemployed, and that she didn’t think any man there couldn’t get her off, it peaked my curiousity.

Me, slyly: what makes you so sure?

thot: because I’m better than you

here I am, war veteran, 6-figure income, 9 smv, marathon runner, mtn climber, etc. etc. blah blah

me: oh yeah, why’s that?

thot, dead serious: “because I have a vagina”

It hit me like a ton of bricks my dudes. I knew it was important to hold frame here, so I made some smart remark and kept fucking with her, and at the end of the night as I’m getting in the uber, she came sauntering out to get my number.

*The important lesson here guys is that girls nowadays believe they are entitled to the very best hypergamy has to offer, regardless of what little they bring to the table. * Suburban Southern California, if it matters. And yeah, I’ll probably fuck her because I’m a trash monster and I don’t care. haha

[–]dani0980 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

9 smv? Whut?

[–]WithItOrOnIt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So... How the story ends ?

[–]Imperator_Red2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Cumulative for me. I just had a series of events occur in college in which women's behavior made absolutely no sense to me and I could not understand what was going on. Advice from friends was absolutely worthless. They were either natural alphas and could not relate to the average guy's problems at all, bought into society's narrative and parroted the same useless platitudes, or were angry and frustrated like me. I just kind of figured out TRP on my own.

Oh it seems like the more I show that I'm into a girl, the less she's into me. Guess I'll just pretend not to care.

Oh it seems like girls constantly say they like certain things but their actions dictate that they like something else. I guess I'll just stop listening to what they say.

Oh it seems like if I ignore this girl's text for 5 hours then she goes insane with lust for me when she comes over later that night. I think I'll ignore her texts more often.

By the time I discovered TRP and the manosphere, it really wasn't a big shock for me. I'd already internalized most of the principals. TRP just gave me the last 25% and the theoretical framework around which all the data fits (e.g. hypergamy).

[–]bf1bro18 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

I'm not proud of this. But when I was 18 (25 now) I went to a nightclub and had about 20 minutes until my friends arrived. I bought a drink and went outside to this smoking area. I didn't smoke but you could still be out there for fresh air because the area was huge. Anyway this 10/10 girl comes over and asks for a cigarette, to which I reply I don't actually smoke and was just waiting for friends. She spat on my face and called me a cunt so I went to security with a thick piece of throat grease on my neck area and said what happened. They went and talked to her and after about a 15 second conversation that I observed from about 15m away she was giggling and the security guard was as well and I knew I was fucked and they asked me to leave, and when I went outside and called the police to explain (she spat on me and the nightclub would have clear footage in that outside well lit area) they arrived and when I explained it all they basically said it wouldn't be worth their time and that I needed to leave the area immediately and that I need to pick better places to hang out at if I am "looking for trouble".

My blood boils just thinking about this.

I 100% hope that 10/10 blonde CUNT dies in a car fire while on loudspeaker to her whole family. No regrets. Society does not need someone like that in it.

[–]Whatdoin271 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

That bitch would of caught one back hand. ✋

[–]askmrcia1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Then you would be in jail. Honestly if it was me it would have been very hard to hit her after that.

I had a similar story except the girl slapped me hard for no reason. I really wanted to punch her lights out, but knew I couldn't.

[–]Whatdoin270 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Big deal. I'll go spend a night because of a flawless record. It'll be worth it...

Sorry but a bitch spitting on me is equivalent to a hostile action. Don't care who you are, you'll catch one back hand. That is all.

[–]Notenthy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Had a crush on a girl in high school, we started to hang out, a lot, after a while she told me she had a boyfriend. However, we stilled hanged out, she hange out more with me than her boyfriend. I was a needy blue pilled trainwreck. She was a 100% borderline girl, but boy what she could turn me on. She said she was turned on by me. She used me as her emtional tampon. We never had sex, even though we talked about sex like 40% of the time. After me trying to suicide a few times because she fucked me competely up I found the TRP. Everyday where like, one day we where high on life, the literally next day, she got mad and sad on me for always made up things, and all hell broke lose. She demanded that we negiotade terms and conditions all the time. Now I know genuin attraction cannot be negotiated. During the worst period we sended like 180 000 texts during a 4 month period. That is sick amounts.

Finally after the suicide attempt I got myself out of it, later found TRP. Dissed her. The fucked up thing, she with no hesitation started doing the same thing with the next guy, with no guilt for what she did to me, after a while he realized what she was doing and dissed her, then she moved on to the next guy, she is still using this guy as a emotinal tampon, they go to the same univeristy. Poor guy.

That was the sickes ride of my life, it was like being high and suicidal every other day for almost a year. 0,2 inches wrong and I would have died. So glad I missed.

[–]T-P-T-W-P1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Watching my wealthy father’s life and marriage fall apart because he is very blue in combination with being an asshole. Also I just graduated college and the whole social scene is a TRP case study. I’m a tall white athlete so my SMV isn’t the worst. Sophomore year I was introduced to a pretty hot chick at a party my friends and I were hosting by a fairly distant mutual female friend under the assumption that this girl was down. Lo and behold, a couple hours later and without much hesitation, she’s bent over the edge of my bed. She seemed respectable and would’ve definitely been interested in making that a consistent thing but I learned shortly after she had a boyfriend of nearly a year. Dude was in a frat and seemed well liked but was about 5 inches shorter, unathletic, and not as good looking. Think they dated for a bit more after this so I assume he either didn’t find out or was crazy blue which would make even more sense. This girl seemed genuinely affectionate and honest prior to intercourse but really was just a cheating sloot who got a hankering for a better dude after a few drinks. Won’t go into crazy detail about her vibe but the moral I took from it is if chicks who are seemingly the way she was can do what she did, then they all can. Also throughout college I witnessed instances similar to this happen to my friends on both sides of the equation. Found the sub junior year of college and things sort of clicked into place. Men and women are very different, emotional connections are primal trickery, and it’s important to stay on top of your shit because women have options and are often open to better than the ones they’ve currently got.

[–]Thisismybot81 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There was no major event for me tbh. Probably why I'm less butt hurt than a lot of guys here.

[–]shango130 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

I was in a morbidly codependent realtionship with a BPD girl. Once I figured out that she was a lunatic I ended it but thats not what did it, it was the lack of support from family, and people telling me I could have "fixed her" and that "you could have been her rock" like it was my job to raise a grown ass woman. Thats when I realized that our culture is fucked and that women are treated like victimized children that need rescuing and special treatment.

[–]Eldudearino890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No it should have been her parents job. Obviously that didn't work. Then it should have been her job to realize she's got issues, and to find help for it. Fuck her if she don't want to help herself. She will one day after a kid or two and a divorce. Keep your head high.

[–]RPinthemaking1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Met this girl on reddit. Got into an LDR with her, lost my virginity to her. She asked to move in with me, I said yes. Sex stayed consistent for half a year or so, then crashed. Combination of her scaring me multiple times that she was pregnant and her consistent bickering with my mother, which was enabled by me, led me to breaking up with her. Got oneitis for her after that and then somehow stumbled upon TRP. Wish I knew exactly what it is I googled to land here.

[–]Sad_Sleeper1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well it was in june this year. I am late bloomer and was total blue pill. I am now 27 and the ex is 29. So she is trying to lock her best option before she hits the wall. She started fucking her best male friend 2 weeks after she ditched me.

I blocked her and deleted her number. And started improving myself. I know i can do way better. So i am working on me. I feel great, but still it is just the beginning.

From time to time i am getting back to the anger phase.

Even though 6 months have passed, guess who called me on my birthday 2 weeks ago, The Ex.

Sooner than expected she will hit the wall. She started smoking intensivly, decided to loose weight but with fatburner and cardio. Not eating properly and ofc not sleeping properly.Drinking alcohol. You get the idea.

[–]Builtblind2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oneitis

in love with girl for 10 years. Once I actually got her I beta'd so fucking hard I pushed her away and killed all attraction.

In an attempt to get over oneitis I came to TRP and started reading the sidebar. Most of the concepts are things I do naturally but when I get invested in things and lose frame I am the biggest Blue pill ever. Now I try to read at least a few minutes of the sidebar everyday

I cant say there have been any moments yet where I think "Holy shit TRP just saved me". Like I said most of these things come naturally for me as I am a total asshole and they kinda go hand in hand. But being apart of the community definitely helps to remind me to keep frame and not let these bitches or situations break me.

I am the god of my own little world

Goals

Lift

Fuck these bitches to sleep

Repeat

[–]frontyer00771 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It started when i read about PUA. I got good at game and could easily hook up with girls. But I was still blue pilled and wanted my unicorn to settle down with.

Well it started by me catching oneitis for a red flag, she literally was a red flag and she had most of the bad qualities you guys could list up. She fucked lots of dudes and I acted like a bitch about it. Until we decided to get exlucive. She fucked a fb 1.5 weeks later. At that point I ghostet her and found "Entrepreneurs in Cars" on youtube. He gave lots of truths and I recognized myself and the chick in everything he said. I then progressivly became more and more redpilled after consuming the material on the Internet.

[–]HumptyDumptyFellHard0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was in a LDR(I know stupid), started out wonderful(beta as they come) and as months went by, I started to get vibes from her that she was checking out.

At the time my SMV was low, so she had the upper hand. She hooked up with a dude, I gave her another chance(I know even more stupid), months later I found out she was talking to other guys and getting attention from them. Then she dumped me because I found out..

Know I can see that AWALT, LDR are shit, bitches will go get attention from other dicks if you aren’t giving it to her, the one that cares less in a relationship has the most power & there will never be a unicorn.

[–]DadOnDabs0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For most guys here it's the realization that unicorns aren't real

[–]Suqat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

First gf. Was a great girl, but I really learned the medium is the message, even though I was holding on to AFC conventions at the time. For example, had a conversation with her where I basically came to the conclusion that "love is conditional with you." She admitted this was true, even though unconditional love is what we should "strive for". Got dumped after trying to conform to her every desire for me, she got disgusted and dumped me. Gave me some hard thinking to do. Found the rp while looking to spice up the relationship again (Before dump), and it really made sense the first general read through. Of course it didn't register in time, but it has changed my live in a way I can only be thankful for.

[–]nummas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For me it was most girls I liked contacting me to get in touch with my better looking friend. This was well before I discovered TRP, but I had basically laid the groundwork myself with my thoughts on women and when I stumbled across TRP, it confirmed some of what I already thought and I gained much more valuable information.

[–]prrraveen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bad case of ONEites, she started giving me shit. Somehow found redpill. I got to know how beta I am.

I started lifting, dress better, day game, hold my frame. Life is so much better. I turned from a weak person to strong person

[–]kybervoid0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My story is I was a freshman in college on a track team. I am now a Junior in college, but 1.5-2 years ago I doubted my ability and wasnt confident at all in myself. I chose to sit out a year(or redshirt) so that I could be focused on building the team up. Well I shouldve realized that the teammates I had were driven with different goals.

It was tough, not being able to run and have guys that you would beat in practice look down on you because you werent on the traveling team(or non redshirt/practice squad). I understand its college and you can go out and party but did they really have to do that every weekend? Dont they want to be successful in other areas of their lives too?

This caused myself to have many dark thoughts, some of which "am I good enough" or "I should just kill myself". I essentially felt like a failure as a man, because my own father(parents divorced when in 6th grade) had not been there for me. I, the eldest of my family was forced to grow up and help my mother. Sure my Dad has always been around, but its complicated. He doesnt want to help pay for my school and he hates the fact that I am athletic and not as smart as he was.

During this time I went onto youtube and began to search videos about mens fashion and lifestyle and discovered channels like alpha m, RMRS, and Jose Zuniga. That led me down another rabbit hole to text game and learning about what it takes to talk to women/what women want, etc. Eventually I went on reddit and typed in alpha male and saw what popped up. This being one of the first sub reddits.

[–]send_it_for_the_boys0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My experience I met a hot 26 year old on my 21st birthday, she made out with me because it was my bday. set up a date the weekend after, mind you I hadn’t had a gf or anything like that in a while. We hit it off great, fucked her a lot for like a month, Then I started sending sweet messages and being “nice” and failing shit tests “in which I had no idea existed” her attitude changed and I had no idea what was going on had no idea anything about a shit test or anything. It ended with her telling me how nice of a guy I was and that she wanted to be friends. Ended up googling some things which lead me to the shit test, later found TRP. Always been a lifter and a good worker so I had that going for me, but little did I know that slut was one of the best worst things that had ever happened to me in my life. ps....she also taught me the value of wrapping your dick.....chlamydia...

[–]whostonedtx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Female here. I would say some red pill stuff is true and some blue pill stuff is also true. I take what I can learn from both.

I was in a 4 year relationship with a guy who basically consumed my life. He was really needy and I ended up distancing myself from friends to avoid conflict and became overly reliant on him. Once he realized I was hooked he flipped the script on me - started cheating, became addicted to porn and stopped having sex with me and that messed with my self esteem. For both men and women I realized it’s important to have friendships and a social life outside of the relationship because if not you run the risk of one person becoming “too comfortable”

I realized I was attracting those type of relationships because I sucked at socializing. So I use TRP more for social advice and am forcing myself to be less introverted.

[–]ValuePrestige0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing special. Read the stuff and realized how it applied to the reallife. Not one special Moment but a long term process

[–]Bluefishermen130 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Being 5´4 i was born with the red pill in my dna.

[–]kybervoid2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Im confused by this



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