Warning ⚠️ Some red-pill guys have started adopting FDS lingo

Keepers12345 · 2022-01-26T04:55:17+00:00

So they're Nice Guys 2.0.😂

If their strategy is same same, different package, then I think we'll be okay.

Frogspocket · 2022-01-26T10:59:31+00:00

What amuses me most about RP guys is that what they consider to be a "high value man" is literally the exact opposite of what a hvm is. Like...

"high value men are always gonna go for the feeemales who are 20 yrs old, they're not gonna want you if you're older than 24"

"what females don't understand is that we high value men don't care about your ambitions or education, we are happy with a girl that works at McDonald's as long as she puts out"

"as long as you maintain your appearance during pregnancy we high value men will stick around, but a high value man is gonna leave if you don't put him first"

"A high value man needs variety, so if you want to keep him you have to let him cheat once in a while"

And their idea of "high value woman" is: young, pretty, naive, and most importantly...submissive and compliant as humanly possible.

And then what they consider "low value women" are: feminists mostly. and women who practice fds, educated women, women with their own wealth, independent women, capable women, women who (God forbid) are aware of our beauty, women who are confident and selective about the company we keep. Women who don't allow being used and disposed of.

So they do use the same terms but it's completely upside down. It's no wonder they hate us so much at fds lol we really do see human value sooo differently.

electroloop · 2022-01-26T05:53:10+00:00

High value male is a term used way before FDS existed. It’s red pill rhetoric. Yes, these men are aware FDS exist and lurk actively, but wouldn’t dare admit it.

lessadessa · 2022-01-26T12:15:20+00:00

This makes me never want to have sex with a man ever again.

modernmedusaa · 2022-01-26T06:27:09+00:00

Yeah the negging tactic is like manipulation for elementary clowns

And high value women have seen that tactic 100 times before - it’s played out and stands out like a sore thumb

Socially retarded men think they’re so cunning for using it …..not realising that’s the exact reason they’re repelling high value women

It’s embarrassing to witness

Their idea of ‘high value man’ doesn’t match ours anyway

Fresh and fit are the type of guys I would instantly REJECT on a night out

And the red pill crowd spends way too much energy and time on manipulating women for me to be convinced they’re high value lol

High value men are busy making money and focused on their hobbies….they don’t struggle attracting women

They’re not making a full time hobby out of how to neg women

If you have to neg women you already know you don’t have it like that Lmaoo

It’s irritating, pathetic and doesn’t have the intended effect

If anything it just makes me raise my standards even higher…bc there’s men with more to offer who have less attitude

FUBARfromLSA · 2022-01-26T04:27:10+00:00

Not surprised. The patriarchy always infiltrates anything female centered.

Hopefully, the FDS Handbook will teach enough women not to fall for it.

Japanese_Lasagna · 2022-01-26T06:07:38+00:00

Weren’t those kinds of men using those terms before? Or perhaps they’re simply trading out words like “alpha” with “high value.” These men greatly overestimate themselves and underestimate women’s ability to see through them. They don’t comprehend that fundamentally whatever a man labels himself is not how a woman may judge him. A woman can use her own observations and make her own determinations independently.

Sewud · 2022-01-26T07:31:36+00:00

What makes me sad is that FDS is morally good and red pill is not.

FDS says find a man who wants the same things as you, be it love, marriage, children or even if it's just a man who has matured past the emotional literacy of a 14-year-old. FDS doesn't say find a Peter who doesn't want to mature past 14 and force him to grow up to serve your agenda. FDS says leave the LVM to be their miserable selves alone and focus your attention on a man who does want to be a mature adult. With FDS, you don't work against what men want, you work with what men want, and that starts with finding a man who wants the same thing you want. Then you work together to both get what you want.

Red pill says to actively work against what women want. They recommend tricking women to obtain what they want from a woman who doesn't want that. It's basically rape, like finding a woman who doesn't want to have sex, and manipulating her only she feels like she has no choice. They consider that a win. It's really not morally defensible. The woman will feel awful and like she was tricked or forced.

Platipus6 · 2022-01-26T06:02:51+00:00

Those 2 in particular are the laughing stock of the manosphere. One's a rage addict who ends up screaming at the camera most episodes, the other one has an instagram profile that's tailored to appeal to men.

The rager got busted having a sugar-daddy profile, offering to pay for women. He's the epitome of low value. He also invited a lovely woman to collab, then attempted to extort sex, by saying he only collabs with women he's in a relationship with. So he's fucked/coerced all the bimbos they bring on (which they ply drinks on, then humiliate).

The lowest value thing of all, besides the dumb shit they say over and over, is their camera perspective for their podcast. They make themselves huge in the foreground and make their guests look like midgets in the shadows. It's so hilariously pathetic.

If any males are still listening to them, we have nothing to worry about. It's the dumb leading the dumb.

TENTITS · 2022-01-26T04:02:52+00:00

I would encourage everyone in this sub to get some wine, or tea, on a rainy weekend and spend a few hours on the red pill sub.

We all need to be innately aware of their strategies so we can spot them a mile away.

Unfortunately for them, all the red pillers come off so strong they always set off internal sirens even for women not yet on FDS. Also unfortunately for them their core strategies are still archaic enough that our mothers warned us about them lol.

Sure, their vernacular may change but these dumb mfs will never, and their lack of evolution will be their downfall eventually. I just hope I live long enough to see the day.

applestorm · 2022-01-26T08:03:00+00:00

I love FDS because it 100% weeds the red pillers out of our dating pool.

By making men pay for dates and refusing to have sex until commitment, we're making most of the users and abusers run away.

Equal-Ear2312 · 2022-01-26T12:51:15+00:00

I think no one should worry. High value and low value had been around since the first ever podcast came alive on good ole' YouTube. They're just words.

deadinsidelol69 · 2022-01-26T05:17:38+00:00

It was only a matter of time until scrotes started to use our wording to manipulate women, its a tale as old as time.

BasketLow8411 · 2022-01-26T06:11:32+00:00

What I love about this is they can steal the lingo all they want, but FDS is much more than lingo, it’s a practice. A lifestyle. We will see how much being a “high value male” really works for their scroteness when we won’t have sex with them or have high expectations about literally anything. They will drop their masks quick.

randomgirlimok · 2022-01-26T05:35:10+00:00

They’ll be bald, ugly, and alone eventually

vaguelinen · 2022-01-26T07:56:29+00:00

The absolute power of FDS is that while the handbook sets the base standard, the fact we do not standard shame means that ultimately the definition of a HVM comes down to each of us to decide. We each have to take responsibility for ourselves. That sets us completely apart from the scrotes seeking a magic formula and regurgitating the same content.

souredskittles · 2022-01-26T07:34:55+00:00

Fresh and fit? You mean Myron and dummy boy his co host? 😂You mean the man who claims to be a 1%er and is on seeking arrangements 😂 You must not be talking about the co host that met his gf at a yaht party and she has videos on tik tok on how to finesse men and is a sugar baby? 😂 That fresh and fit right?😂

These clowns keep losing. I kind of ignore how they use terminology. 💩 is 💩 no matter what name you give it.

butteryrum · 2022-01-26T07:59:13+00:00

"how to make yourself a high value male"

To be fair, there is a little overlap of the glossary between this sub and others. HVM is not an FDS original term. BUT that's still a red flag the guy is probably a red pill who negs so it's still wise to be hip to their games.

It's concerning to think about how even more insidious men are educating themselves on our strategies and actively thinking of ways to circumvent them.

You act dumb, like you know nothing. The dumber you act, the safer they'll feel, the more likely they WILL slip. Does he mention his two girls one guy fantasy? Tell him excitingly to elaborate, then never talk to him ever again because we know he's digging his grave as soon as he opens his mouth.

That's just me. I enjoy playing charming and "dumb" it works out well for me. People often underestimate me, which works to my advantage. But, you should do what you're comfortable with and works for you.

warinmymind94 · 2022-01-26T08:27:28+00:00

I saw one on a dating app recently his bio literally opened with "I'm a Dusty" 🚩🚩🚩🚩 immediately swiped left

saint-jezebel · 2022-01-26T18:24:19+00:00

Low value men cannot teach you how to be a High Value Man. At the end of the day, they all use the same tactics because they never change their ways on how they think of women: like objects. They continue to resort to the same low budget tactics, so the more they hype themselves up, the faster the mask falls off. They can keep trying but as long as the community keeps growing, they will keep losing. We are the target, not them.

smoskowi · 2022-01-26T14:05:13+00:00

@OP, are you an H3 fan by any chance? I've never heard of these guys this week until Ethan's video

smartierthanthou · 2022-01-27T02:14:06+00:00

They do realize that we get to decide what "HVM" means to us, right?

Should some one tell them that we vet actions, not words?

freerollerskates · 2022-01-26T16:33:32+00:00

So their strategy for becoming a high value male is... to become the ultimate zero value male?

I don't get it.

Honestly the best thing we can do is spread the gospel of FDS to our girlfriends. Red pill works by people not knowing about it. FDS works when people know about it.

It doesn't even matter if men know about it, because if we're vetting properly we're not ignoring any red flags, and you can't fake everything about your life long term. A HVM shouldn't care about FDS because it's NOT about gold digging or tricking men into marriage or whatever their paranoia du jour is - it's about respect and proper appreciation of the value of our company.

So some scrote wants to pretend he's a hvm by doing a bunch of superficial stuff, but he'll give himself away in the end. Maybe because he won't introduce you to his friends or family. Maybe because of his living situation, or how he acts in one particular situation. You can't fake this shit- you either you are or you aren't.

Davina33 · 2022-01-26T08:45:36+00:00

I had an incident yesterday where I became aware of yet another sub made off the back of this one. I have one post left on my profile where I had asked if I was shadow banned over a year ago. I have chat and messages disabled but I had a ghost notification of a message that didn't get through.

So this sad sack of a scrote commented "I hope so because you are on FDS". Lol. After cussing and blocking him, yes I shouldn't have even responded, I noticed that he comments on a sub making fun of ours. Feels so good to rent so much space in their pea brains. The amount of incel subs around and no one even posts about them, let alone harass the scrotes on there with messages. They really don't want women waking up to their abuse.

I am familiarising myself with red pill language. I haven't been on a date since 2008 before I met my ex and I'm not in a rush to go on one now. Us women can get a man so easily and men hate that it isn't so easy for them.

BedazzledSwashbuckle · 2022-01-26T15:10:14+00:00

I've heard "high value male" randomly in the wild at least four times in the past month. From non-FDS folks, men and women. And Teens.

I'd say it's entered the global lexicon at this point.

2022-01-26T18:22:30+00:00

This brings up an important point about how these terms are being used more widely in society. It's great that FDS is reaching so many people, but men will ruin anything they touch.

For example, I've heard the term "high value woman" used in other contexts, but the definition is consistent with FDS and is very similar to The Rules' "Creature Unlike Any Other." When women define a HVM, we really do mean a HVM. When men define it, though, it's twisted and manipulated into something that (shocker) ultimately benefits them.

Luckily I think FDS is a foolproof strategy and is under no threat of falling for these new scams. It's sad we have to stay so vigilant, but I'm a believer that if you follow the strategy and keep your heart/mind bulletproof, we'll all be just fine!

Shot_Presence_8382 · 2022-01-29T20:35:55+00:00

Typical man, stealing women's thoughts, ideas, wording, etc and claiming it as their own..then turn around and say women offer nothing and we're dumb/incompetent...after they've stolen women's ideas!

Title	Warning ⚠️ Some red-pill guys have started adopting FDS lingo
Author	Smolfrend
Upvotes	943
Comments	56
Date	January 26, 2022 3:55 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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