Do we downplay misandry?

Mojorizen2 · 2023-07-28T11:18:00+00:00

“Misandry irritates. Misogyny kills.” (Conveniently ignores male suicide statistics.)

Bascome · 2023-07-28T10:47:22+00:00

80 percent of suicides are men and misogyny doesn't kill?

What statistics are they looking at?

Oh yeah, none.

Punder_man · 2023-07-28T10:38:06+00:00

Misandry is absolutely downplayed in our society..

On social media, phrases like #KillALLMen are considered "Punching up" and we get told "No body takes it seriously"

Yet any similar hashtag like #RapeALLWomen would be considered misogyny, hate speech etc and the user who posted it would be banned if not reported to local police..
Men not being treated with the same respect women expect is misandry.

When a female teacher gets a lenient / no real sentence for raping a male student due to her position of power / control that is society saying that boys / men are not as important and so raping them does not count.

When we force a young man who was raped by his female baby sitter or an older woman to pay child support for the resulting baby in which he was not of an age to consent too.. That is us as a society saying that boys do not deserve the status of "Victim" and instead are treated as resources for the state to use at their whim. This too is misandry.

When a woman gets a 1 year prison sentence for throwing water and Lye on her father because she was enraged that he was too drunk to drive her to the hair salon for an appointment and he spends months suffering only to eventually succumb this is us as a society saying that male victims are not as important to society. This too is misandry..

I could go on but I think we all get the point here.

Its so easy for feminists to claim that "Misandry" is reactionary and doesn't cause actual harm.. But we all know full well the blatant and in many cases systematic misandry within our society don't we?

TheTinMenBlog · 2023-07-28T09:54:35+00:00

Travel around the social media verse, and you’ll soon run into a very familiar perspective of sexism.

One that tells us that whilst sexism goes both ways; misogyny against women remains endemic, and deadly, whilst misandry against men benignly paddles in the shallow end of sexism, more of an inconvenience than anything else.

As the meme goes – Misogyny kills, and misandry irritates.One is a matter of life and death.The other just has to pay the bill on dates.Misandry is sexism-lite; a kind of luke warm, off brand knock version of misogyny classic.

But of course, like most things you’ll read online, misandry is not trivial, to be relegated to the world of mere inconvenience, as like misogyny, it can kill too – and has.

If you don’t believe me – ask the countless hundreds of thousands of men and boys systemically exterminated in Anfal, or within Operation Searchlight, the 8,000 massacred in Srenbrenica, or many more disappeared in Kashmir.

History, and the present day, is full of examples of boys and men being sought out and punished, hurt or killed, purely because of their gender.Misandry sleeps under bridges.

Misandry drops out of school.Misandry gave Europe its worst genocide since the Second World War.

And these deaths, disadvantages, and disspearances, cannot be watered down to men just ‘being irritated’.Neither can the fathers who are losing children in family court, the survivors shut out of refuges, or indeed the hundreds of thousands conscripted in Ukraine, be rounded down, and reduced to ‘an inconvenience.’

What’s more the whole framing of misandry vs misogyny is entirely unhelpful.

It builds a divide where there should never be one, and turns one side against another, when it needn’t do so.

So why do we water down the experiences of men and boys across the world, why do we minimise their staggering loss of life, and why do we pit one sex against the other?

~

Srenbrenica

Family court coalition

Images by Codioful, Anton, Blake Lisk and Kiwi Hug.

Tanto_Monta · 2023-07-28T09:58:31+00:00

Misandry fuels misogyny.

KrazyJazz · 2023-07-28T11:39:46+00:00

Misandry kills a lot more. It's just slower, more discreet and better disguised. It's also socially acceptable. Unlike misogyny...

SecTeff · 2023-07-28T11:08:03+00:00

It’s odd as it presents both misandry and misogyny as in competition as to what is worst.

All forms of hate and discrimination are bad - there isn’t a higherarchy.

Tackling misandry doesn’t diminish the rights of women. It’s a high tide that raises us all. Neither does tackling misogyny diminish the rights of men.

We can tackle both and build a better more equal world for men and women where gender norms and the gender wars don’t dominate our lives.

milehin8tv · 2023-07-28T12:17:11+00:00

Thank you for including us gay men as we are often overlooked as men.

SuspiciousMeat6696 · 2023-07-28T11:44:58+00:00

Tulsa Massacre victims and Emmett Till unavailable for comment

AbysmalDescent · 2023-07-28T16:29:43+00:00

Here's a few ways a culture of misandry does kill men both directly and indirectly:

suicide/risk seeking
- A hatred of men leads to a worse mental health and self-image
- A culture of misandry means a lack of support, help, consideration or care.
drug abuse/addiction
- A hatred of men leads to a worse mental health and self-image
- A culture of misandry means a lack of support, help, consideration or care.
police brutality
- police will be called on men more often(rightfully or wrongfully)
- police will treat men as more dangerous than they are
- police will have fewer reservations using excessive/lethal force on men
vigilante "justice"
- people will have an easier time jumping to conclusions against men, especially if they are viewed as having harmed a woman
- people will have an easier time getting away with violence against men, especially if committed by women.
- people will have fewer reservations using excessive/lethal force on men
assault/violence
- people are more likely to use extreme force against men
poverty/homelessness
- A higher pressure on men to take on financial burdens leaves them on the hook more often
- Less support/shelters available for men
- Alimony and child support ruining men financially
- A higher pressure on men to make more money leads to them taking on more risks
domestic abuse
- women who harm/kill husbands are far more likely to get away with it, or have that abuse unreported
- men who are abused are taken far less seriously and have fewer ressources available
women/children first in emergency situations
- Men are expected to give up their safety/life in favor of women's.
- Men are expected to deal with dangerous or stressful situations/confrontations for women, even when those women are the ones who created those situations/confrontations
war/mandatory conscription
- Men are expected to fight to serve/protect women's interests
- Men are put into more dangerous positions
workplace fatalities
- A higher pressure on men to make money leads them to take more dangerous
- Lower concerns for safety in male dominated fields
criminalization/radicalization
- A higher pressure on men to make money leads them to more illegal activities
- Lower concerns for safety in male prisons/apprehension

JetChipp · 2023-07-28T15:47:48+00:00

A report shows that, compared to white men:

White women receive 24-27% shorter sentences

Black women receive 27.1% shorter sentences

Hispanic women receive 5.5% shorter sentences

Asian women receive 40.2% shorter sentences

So yes misandry does kill

https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/demographic-differences-sentencing

ImplodedPotatoSalad · 2023-07-28T14:10:40+00:00

Why is only the Ukrainian draft on there. Russia has a draft too…

ImplodedPotatoSalad · 2023-07-28T15:39:20+00:00

Misandry "just destroys livehoods" but since its men being affected, noone cares.

aigars2 · 2023-07-28T13:33:35+00:00

These people making such comparisons and downplaying misandry are the real misandrists

FrankenBurd2077 · 2023-07-28T11:59:14+00:00

If history has taught us anything, it's that deep down everyone hates men, even men!

KneeDeepThought · 2023-07-28T10:44:29+00:00

I particularly love the domestic violence shelter point on frame 9. Because all the shelters are run by tax money which is disproportionately taken from men's taxes. They take more of our money to provide services to the "public" which half the public is not allowed to use. There's a class action lawsuit just begging to be prosecuted here, but no politician will dare touch the third rail of politics: the sisterhood.

matrixislife · 2023-07-28T15:12:45+00:00

The Boko Haram kidnappings of 600 girls made world-wide headlines and politicians everywhere jumping on the bandwagon. No one gave a damn about the hundreds of boys who were murdered at the same time.

AdGreedy8753 · 2023-07-28T12:50:07+00:00

to a very dangerous degree. every double standard against men is misandry. Misandry against men is so downplayed that when the same problem is faced by women, it's because of misogyny that incels use to deny their existence to objects when they do the exact same thing.

Saying misandry irritates is just hypocrisy.

Zazadoozie · 2023-07-28T14:31:57+00:00

Yes, we do. There is FAR more misandry in society than misogyny.

Dkpokefan72 · 2023-07-28T10:32:35+00:00

Wow am not even suprised

Suddenly_Sisyphus42 · 2023-07-28T15:58:58+00:00

It really feels like the misandry bubble will never burst.

RoryTate · 2023-07-28T14:15:42+00:00

There is a really well-known video example of excusing misandry in the form of Big Red from a decade ago, where she sang "Cry Me A River" to a man who said he was trying to work on preventing male suicides. Feminists later tried to pretend that she was an individual outlier, but it's pretty obvious that she's very representative of the entire movement. If anything, she's tame. Compared to the actual feminist institutions that deliberately target men and rejoice at their suffering and death, Big Red is just an annoyance at worst.

Acousmetre78 · 2023-07-28T14:39:23+00:00

Misandry almost got me killed. My mother wanted to get back at my father for being misogynistic so she decided to violate me his son. She became a man hater and ruined 3 lives including an 11 year old boy. Whatever they all deserved it they had a penis.

Reasonable_Bar736 · 2023-07-28T17:29:42+00:00

Strange how the media class every Male on Female violence as Misogyny but Female on Male Violence as Non target/ Non Misandrist

TracyMorganFreeman · 2023-07-28T15:05:33+00:00

Misogyny kills and misandry only irritates, and yet men have higher mortality rates for almost every situation or activity that both can participate in.

In fact dismissing men's concerns as merely being irritated is just more misandry.

2023-07-28T17:55:45+00:00

☝️ Misandry can be false r*pe allegations too

aeon314159 · 2023-07-28T19:13:53+00:00

Misandry exists, but it isn’t anything to get too worked up over. After all, men, and the boys who grow up to become men, are nothing more than objects of productivity and utility and bodies for war. All are disposable.

angry /s

2023-07-29T05:20:55+00:00

Oh yea. It's just irritation when a woman falsely accuses an innocent man of smexual harrassment, and he ends up losing his job, family, and entire lively hood.

Mauro_Mple · 2023-07-28T12:52:09+00:00

The fact that now it's recognized and downplayed instead of being denied shows some good progress. Keep the good work boys!

Rionat · 2023-07-29T02:30:27+00:00

95% of medical child abuse is done by a female. Just remember that.

RedEdd97 · 2023-07-28T22:16:11+00:00

I'm not sure Srebenica was the best example to use here. The main motive for the massacre was ethnic hatred and Islamaphobia, not misandry, especially because it would have been men carrying it out. Also, this makes it sound like the women and young girls got off scot -free. They didn't. Much of the female population were captured and raped en masse, something which probably made them wish they had joined their fathers, husbands, brothers, and sons in death. There definitely is growing misandry, and it certainly is often ignored, but I don't really see this as an example.

standardtrickyness1 · 2023-07-29T01:51:09+00:00

Misandry comes in the form of charging men who fight back with a crime longer prison sentences for men making things a crime only if you're a man

Misogyny (usually) comes in the form of people telling women they're not cut out for...

Thats like a judge saying I'm not gonna charge you with anything and you're free to go but you should voluntarily go into that prison cell because you're a piece of **** and you'll never make it on the outside world.

Idkawesome · 2024-04-12T13:06:40+00:00

Is an irritant supposed to be a good thing? Why does it have to kill in order to be taken seriously?

Commercial_Nothing34 · 2023-07-29T00:58:46+00:00

Feminism and misandry kills entire civilizations

theoracleofosiris · 2023-07-29T01:48:12+00:00

mgtow is the only way, society will pay for treating men as they do now.

FanaticUniversalist · 2023-07-29T08:50:50+00:00

Misogyny erases women's potential.

Misandry erases men's potential... And kills them.

Glittering_Pride2443 · 2024-08-19T14:57:20+00:00

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFmo8_nUaULu1lT1FzQCoRRYmql5neLxZ&si=Lx60SJ59XiTB-vBE

Sensitive-Ad6609 · 2023-07-28T17:15:53+00:00

Yes society does and its messed up.

EdgarGulligan · 2023-07-28T17:24:11+00:00

I haven’t seen the Tin in a while, great to see you again!

2023-07-28T19:25:28+00:00

Misandry and it's legal manifestations are the leading driver of suicides in western and westernized nations.

Nevek_Green · 2023-07-28T20:51:00+00:00

Telling a woman she has to be a homemaker with an allowance kills? In what way?

DTreatz · 2023-07-29T00:32:52+00:00

Downplay?

Society ignores it completely.

Of course, it's inevitable that it will come up, because men = civilization. So if we suffer, society collapses, and now people are starting to see and feel it.

legend0102 · 2023-07-28T11:29:03+00:00

I agree with most points. But the point about the draft, I believe goes beyond misandry. It is about men being better fighters than women. Of course under equality women should fight too, but for the states a strong army is more important than a feminist quota.

Now downplaying it, but misandry falls short to explain draft.

ShogunOfNY · 2023-07-28T18:25:53+00:00

love your insta posts

JJnanajuana · 2023-07-28T21:58:26+00:00

I recently read a book by corrie ten boom, (a great woman who saved a lot of lives during the holicost at personal risk to herself) (it was pushed forward by the new york library as part of womens month)) and at one point she tells of how she was in a concentration camp when the front line was aproaching. From the woman's camp they could hear them shooting all the men in the mens camp, all day. Then they marched the women to a new camp further from the front line. Some died on the way, many were morning their husbands who were in the other camp. It was horrible for everyone but the men were killed.

I also saw a short docco on Lidice. A town that the nazis destroyed, burning down everything and going so far as to rerout the river around it. They rounded up all the villagers, made the men stand in front of a wall in groups of ten and shot them. Then they seperated the women and the children and sent them to consentration camps. Which killed a lot of them (almost all the children.)

Anyway 'nazis commit atrocity' doesnt show much, the misandry that kills here, isnt just the litteral difference in the killings, it is that they openly braged about having executed a village worth of men (civilian men who's did nothing other than live in the hometown of someone who killed a nazi official) while they hid the damage they did to the women and children, claiming relocation.

Even the nazis knew to at least pretend they hadnt crossed that line. because there is a line

And the fact that that line exsists is the point.

TheTinMenBlog · 2023-10-29T05:22:48+00:00

[permanently deleted]

Cheetahfan123 · 2023-07-28T14:14:38+00:00

I’d say it’s mostly the other way round

Elegant-Surprise-417 · 2023-07-28T17:51:56+00:00

Yes. Men are physically dominating on average, so of course it is not seen as as big of an issue.

ShitHouses · 2023-07-28T10:38:07+00:00

These seem to be things done to men by other men.

Noonbright · 2023-07-28T16:20:30+00:00

In case y'all weren't pissed off enough today:

https:// www.reddit.com/r/ AITAH/comments/ 15blko1/aitah_for_wanting_to_divorce_my_husband_because/

(Just remove the spacing to follow the link. I think AITAH doesn't allow direct linking)

Pretty sure this would be called financial abuse if this was a man

Also, found this lovely article:

https://medium.com/@alexandermoreaudelyon/title-ix-how-schools-hold-kangaroo-courts-and-oppress-the-accused-40becbf80b10

And this right here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MRA_TitleIX/comments/wlomyy/an_allfemale_program_doesnt_discriminate_against/

Pretty fucking discriminatory

Clemicus · 2023-07-28T17:56:16+00:00

In the UK there’s the 1885 Labouchere Amendment. That was in force until the Sexual Offences Act 1967. The punishment was life in prison

Prior to 1861 the Buggery Act 1533 was in force. Homosexual acts were a capital punishment. I’m unsure from when, a judge could commute the death sentence and instead send the offender to prison. There was a book a number of years ago that got numerous facts wrong and was pulped. One of the cases mentioned in the book was of an 18 year old who raped an 8 year old boy. The author didn’t research the vernacular that meant the execution was commuted

Apologies for rambling

PS Alan Turing was chemically castrated in 1952. I’m unsure if this was a deal he had received or if it was a provision under the 1885 Labouchere Amendment. The same goes for Oscar Wilde

Alert_Swordfish8711 · 2023-07-28T18:33:19+00:00

Thanks ! That's amazing and needs to be shared !

Remi_cuchulainn · 2023-07-28T18:58:40+00:00

To any moron that say this, you can reply with the white feather from England

amakusa360 · 2023-07-28T21:14:54+00:00

We do. I'm supposed to believe it doesn't exist while men are told they're innately toxic, violent and evil and can never be victims of anything because they're privileged oppressors.

VegetableTeacakes · 2023-07-28T22:42:43+00:00

Fools this guy on insta, he’s really good @thetinmen

GreenZepp · 2023-07-28T23:55:59+00:00

Considering there are more male violent deaths and more male suicides this obviously wrong and not logical!

Top-Bumblebee8411 · 2023-07-29T02:13:26+00:00

I need to constantly remind myself that the women in my life are lovely and awesome. And there are so many of them. So when I see the other bunch of them saying this shit I just have to keep thinking about them.

Top-Bumblebee8411 · 2023-07-29T02:18:37+00:00

I have decided that feminisms main fault is to not accept that we are ALL products of nature. And that nature is brutal and sometimes heartless. But they divorce themselves from any animal qualities and project them on us. So we both DO the dirty work and become DIRTY by it.

Feminist Women see themselves as keepers of another class of righteousness because we do what they are either too weak or morally above to do.

Edwin1070 · 2023-07-29T05:00:52+00:00

Same people will complain about micro aggressions against them.

alexaxl · 2023-07-29T06:44:53+00:00

You missed Boko Haram’s story of starting with boys and not getting attention; the second they abducted girls, It went global.

JacydenPurplLion · 2023-07-30T02:48:17+00:00

Short answer: Yes!

Long answer: Yes, with multiple sources and evidence!

Wordroots · 2023-07-31T05:35:49+00:00

Ok, but none of those are caused by misandry.

Radical_Libertarian · 2023-08-01T06:33:32+00:00

War isn’t matriarchy. It’s (overwhelmingly) men oppressing men (and women).

2024-02-04T11:22:27+00:00

no one gives an actual fuck

Title	Do we downplay misandry?
Author	TheTinMenBlog
Upvotes	1547
Comments	212
Date	July 28, 2023 9:54 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/15bszc4/do_we_downplay_misandry/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/do-we-downplay-misandry.1226752 https://theredarchive.com/post/1226752

Comments