Homeless non-men will receive basic income in Denver, Colorado.

OldEgalitarianMRA · 2022-09-26T13:22:09+00:00

This is against the anti-discrimination laws and will be settled in court should it make it that far.

hehimCA · 2022-09-26T13:25:29+00:00

This is wrong, plain and simple.

Booth_Templeton · 2022-09-26T13:28:50+00:00

This is comical. Even homeless men are not treated fairly in the homeless community. Political homeless environment. Whoever thought that could be another avenue for the liberals to get their claws in.

63daddy · 2022-09-26T13:56:39+00:00

As I’ve said before, it’s really telling that governments not only discriminate against men, but flaunt it as a selling point.
It’s clear the government is also misusing covid funds.

They are misusing funding and violating non discrimination laws. They obviously think they are above the law and need to be put in their place. I hope they are sued.

ExMuzzy · 2022-09-26T14:34:26+00:00

Discrimination that people will probably justify by saying women are extremely vulnerable. It's crazy.

needalife94 · 2022-09-26T16:26:34+00:00

How is this not sexism ? They are discriminating against men. Just fuck the homeless men I guess. :/

vhisic · 2022-09-26T21:26:57+00:00

I like that phrase, we should use it more in situations like this. "non men" really highlits that men are specifically excluded and everyone else isnt

JadedLitigant · 2022-09-26T17:14:39+00:00

This is easy. Identify as a woman.

Checkmate, bigots.

DavidByron2 · 2022-09-26T15:12:49+00:00

Sounds like illegal discrimination.

I wonder at what age a child becomes a male and thus gets no support?

https://travelnoire.com/denver-to-offer-140-homeless-people-12000-in-cash-as-part-of-basic-income-project

There's around 6888 homeless in the city and they are giving the $12,000 to the most privileged of the homeless - "women, transgender and gender non-conforming individuals"

That's about the 140/6888 = about the elite 2% of the homeless getting a further boost because they aren't men or tainted with the smell of men.

Well at least they're doing something for some homeless people, but it's illegal sex discrimination.

Surv1ver · 2022-09-26T13:35:15+00:00

Is it even a universal basic income if it isn’t universal distributed?

I’m all for universal basic income, but excluding parts of the population based on something like gender, ethnicity etc. is just admitted that there are 1. and 2. class citizens.

What Denver is doing is just BUI-washing an American version of appanage.

ANUS_CONE · 2022-09-26T18:37:14+00:00

I don't mean this as a joke, but seriously in this day and age, how are they even allowed to ask what sex or gender the person is?

IronJohnMRA · 2022-09-26T20:24:27+00:00

Comments are turned off.

Really? I wonder why? Thankfully, ours are on.

hottake_toothache · 2022-09-26T20:11:41+00:00

I really wonder if there will be a bachelor tax in my lifetime.

aries0413 · 2022-09-26T14:32:57+00:00

Everyone get a free ride except straight men.

XavierMalory · 2022-09-26T17:42:30+00:00

Another good article on that site:

https://avoiceformen.com/featured/mgtow-and-female-disapproval-2-2/

The author herself admits (in a roundabout way) why men are “leaving the game.”

Who on earth will fund all these programs (e.g. “UBI” for homeless women) when the vast majority of the taxpayer base has not only left, but won’t sire anymore children who would grow up to be taxpayers themselves?

JidderS2 · 2022-09-26T17:43:08+00:00

Just identify as a women.

cbr2021 · 2022-09-26T14:38:14+00:00

Get use to discriminatory laws like these if men don’t have the brains (or the balls) to protest things out on the streets.

This is what feminists are good at, and they get the results.

Your_Agenda_Sucks · 2022-09-26T16:12:37+00:00

Homeless men should simply assert that they identify as toaster-ovens and they'll get the assistance they need.

PumaRob15 · 2022-09-26T16:03:50+00:00

Good thing your not automatically a man anymore if you have a penis…

BoTheJoV3 · 2022-09-26T18:25:16+00:00

Wow. Most of the homeless are men, so they won't be helping a good portion of the homeless

pappo4ever · 2022-09-26T15:04:40+00:00

I think is time that instead of the label LGBTQURLM or 'women and minorities' groups start referring simply as NM (Non-men) it would be much easier.

Hoopaboi · 2022-09-26T20:29:02+00:00

How do I respond to people who claim that this is the result of the patriarchy, and that if we got rid of the grand unifying theory of the patriarchy, this would go away too?

I'm usually at a loss when they make these arguments other than just asking for evidence.

From my experience they'll usually do a "lol it's because of the expectation of men as the provider and women as the housewife, the same system actually hurts both of us" it sounds like a "both sides" argument and idk how to respond.

KingKookus · 2022-09-26T18:34:05+00:00

I identify as whatever gets me free shit.

StingRayFins · 2022-09-26T18:58:48+00:00

I really don't understand how women are supposedly so strong and empowered and independent but constantly get free handouts, shorter sentences for crime, more support for everything, slap on the wrist, and believed no matter what.

It's really backwards and there's no way anyone has a future with a broken system running this way. It's a meter of time before all hell breaks loose.

Baboon_Stew · 2022-09-26T23:07:29+00:00

And just like that, male homelessness disappeared overnight.

Far-Reputation7119 · 2022-09-26T20:05:26+00:00

Female privilege.

NeoNotNeo · 2022-09-27T00:57:54+00:00

Non men.

Someone please start a sub.

lu_ke_44 · 2022-09-27T00:58:52+00:00

Whats stupid too is the fact that they called them 'non-men' and not just 'women'

wowelysiumthrowaway · 2022-09-27T05:06:15+00:00

Sue sue sue sue sue sue sue sue sue

DecimatingDarkDeceit · 2022-09-27T12:16:59+00:00

For a moment I have read it as homeless men and I was overjoyed; than I have to read it again

SadGruffman · 2022-09-26T17:10:02+00:00

Why not just give a universal basic income to everyone?

mechajutaro · 2022-09-26T22:27:34+00:00

There's a larger problem here that transcends gender https://www.wnyc.org/story/strengthening-welfare-work-system/ https://www.city-journal.org/html/what-i-learned-poverty-war-13513.html * If flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR were serious about making progress, they'd have shunned any and all associations with modern day side-show attractions Carl Benjamin, Stefan Molyneux, Count Dank-ula, and some other loser who goes by Regan, in favor of partnering up with folks like Peter Cove and America Works. Start agitating for specific goals like abolishing most forms of welfare in favor of putting current recipients(even pre-COVID, fewer American men were in the workforce than was the case than at the end of The Great Depression. The trite excuse of "Well, the factories have closed down!!!" doesn't hold up, on account of the fact that we have a more diverse economy today than at anytime in history)into legit work + providing vocational training to those who want it, and we've got a shot at not just making life better for men, but lifting several million Americans in general out of poverty and into the middle and upper classes

*Quote from that article: " The reasons should have been obvious all along. Work maximizes a person’s capacity to achieve economic self-reliance. Work socializes people and instills a sense of personal responsibility in them. Work connects behavior and consequences. And it permits people, especially men, to obtain the admiration and respect of their spouses and children by supporting them." Prominent MRAs like Paul Elam, Alison Tieman, Tom Golden, Karen Straughan, and to a lesser extent Brian Martinez may not comprehend this, on account of the fact that they've each earned a small fortune via donations and(in the case of Elam and Golden)charging gullible men out their noses for "counseling services" of dubious merit

The other 99% of the male population will never achieve 18 minutes of fame as YouTube stars the way these folks have though, and our choices really are as stark as A). Leave the X-Box and the comic books back in middle school, and acquire an abundance of skills which make us marketable to high-paying employers, or B). Go through life with an encyclopedic knowledge of fantasy fiction, Star Wars trivia, and not much else-kinda like this ICMI '19 keynote speaker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxf0yzzuWCw -and pretend that never getting much further in life than stocking shelves at Wal-Mart or Tesco="being above and beyond so-called Norm-ie society, even though we're poor and highly susceptible to all of the ills that MRAs claim to care about"

Psychadous · 2022-09-26T19:10:21+00:00

So initial points -

The source is definitely biased being a men's rights group so keep that in mind. We never want to forget implicit bias.
The video is from Fox News. You can definitely hear the attempt at fear mongering.

What is more likely is that this is intended to be a pilot study. There probably isn't enough money to include all of the male homeless, so they were lazy and just excluded them. The study will likely run for a year or so and track outcomes. Then it could get turned into an evergreen program.

They should have included all groups possible (men, women, and children as well as varied demographics) but there's probably a huge budget restriction stopping this. So rather than dilute their data with only a few from each group, they focused it on "non-men". If successful, they'll likely expand it with more funding and then make it permanent. This has kinda become the way of doing things with UBI experiments.

Be careful about labeling things like this as misandrist without considering methodology, budget, or experimental constraints.

Edit: formatting

Nergaal · 2022-09-26T20:00:07+00:00

proof that men are disposable

IronJohnMRA · 2022-09-26T21:30:59+00:00

The organization running the project:

https://denverbasicincomeproject.org/home

Contact info:

Denver Basic Income Project
303.305.4066
[email protected]
1536 Wynkoop St., Suite 223, Denver, CO 80202

DoomRabbitDaBunny · 2022-09-26T22:21:04+00:00

Y'all act shocked.

You ever paid attention to who makes yo the decision making corps in most social service agency offices?

AtemAndrew · 2022-09-26T22:58:40+00:00

And then, for no reason at all, the amount of LGBTQ representation in the homeless population skyrocketed.

rabel111 · 2022-09-26T23:02:01+00:00

Sexist pigs running this disgusting program. They should be held accountable for the discrimination.

alexmijowastaken · 2022-09-26T23:21:29+00:00

UnfurtletDawn · 2022-09-27T01:19:26+00:00

https://denverite.com/2022/09/12/city-council-approves-2-million-for-the-denver-basic-income-project/

From the project itself there is no requirement on gender on their website.

But city council approved 2 million for Denver basic income project.

Money will go to 140 women, transgender and gender non-comforming people.

So now it is gender based discrimination cause the money were donated by the city specifically for that one group.

The project itself is not obliged to help everyone.

JohnnyJohnson11 · 2022-09-27T03:06:36+00:00

Not okay with my tax dollars going towards this. I live in Denver. The homelessness problem is out of control. Most homeless people are men. So you're only going to fix, like what, 10% of the homelessness problem? MAYBE, by giving women money?

CanniBal1320 · 2022-09-27T06:47:37+00:00

This is just cruel man

Blood2999 · 2022-09-27T06:49:14+00:00

Just why?

Spare_Development615 · 2022-09-27T07:12:59+00:00

Money is fungible.

If they allocate $2 million to women only that's $2 million they don't have to spend out of other budgets that can then be diverted to homeless men.

Whether that will actually happen is anybody's guess, all I'm saying is that money is fungible, it can be advertised for one purpose and used for another.

Women have alot more empathy in society than men, so if you're collecting money or trying to convince a city council then "help the homeless women" works better for actually getting funding.

Of course it'll mostly go towards men because that's who the majority of homeless people are.

BainzXoXo · 2022-09-27T08:58:29+00:00

My browser is acting fucky and won’t open it. Is it explained why?

aigars2 · 2022-09-27T09:16:59+00:00

Less and less reasons to stay and pay taxes.

Anih1list · 2022-09-30T17:32:40+00:00

It’s to balance out the male privilege held by those men /s

Title	Homeless non-men will receive basic income in Denver, Colorado.
Author	rbrockway
Upvotes	937
Comments	177
Date	September 26, 2022 12:54 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/xoihr8/homeless_nonmen_will_receive_basic_income_in/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/homeless-non-men-will-receive-basic-income-in.1133820 https://theredarchive.com/post/1133820