Man or Bear: which would you choose

PatricAdams · 2024-05-07T12:38:44+00:00

Statistically speaking the mother is more likely to harm her own child than both the male stranger and the bear combined.

FrogTrainer · 2024-05-07T13:35:32+00:00

Remember, these are the same women who shamed men for not wanting to be alone with a woman in a professional setting.

hendrixski · 2024-05-07T12:33:25+00:00

I like the slide about "would you rather leave your child with a woman or with a crocodile" because most child abuse is perpetrated by women.

Hopeless0341 · 2024-05-07T12:20:34+00:00

Thank you for making this and slapping people in the face with facts. I been in the woods and came across bears they scare the shit out of me because they can be unpredictable and you can’t stop them if they want to chew on you. Most men you run into will pass you by with a nod.

kkkan2020 · 2024-05-07T13:43:06+00:00

they say bears are predictable... how are they predictable again?

Net_Flux3 · 2024-05-07T12:58:27+00:00

Woman or a crocodile?

See, this is the way. Instead of crying about these trolls and biting the bait from these femcels, giving them exactly the reactions they want, why don't men strike back with "a woman or a crocodile" trend and give "statistical proof" as to why crocodiles are "safer"? For one, crocodiles get put down if they attack men while men aren't even allowed to defend themselves if attacked by women. Another reason is that crocodiles can't rape men while women aren't just perfectly capable of doing that but are legally incentivised to rape men (child support). Not to mention crocodiles kill fewer men each year than the number of men killed by women, statistically speaking.

See? It's a "statistically" "objective" FACT that crocodiles are safer for men compared to women!

PragmaticMind_ · 2024-05-07T12:08:11+00:00

If mods remove this, then I'm done with this sub.

Independent-Cut-8704 · 2024-05-07T15:23:55+00:00

What pisses me off about the Man or Bear thing is how fucking harmful it is to young boys. I had to deal with society calling me a violent oppressor before I even knew what those words meant and to see this shit be passed around again…. Makes me so mad.

HesperianDragon · 2024-05-07T15:03:05+00:00

A question for my fellow men:

Would you rather be lost in the woods with a man or a woman?

TKD1989 · 2024-05-07T15:17:40+00:00

Proves how insanely dumb feminists are

FourEaredFox · 2024-05-07T12:16:22+00:00

Slide 6 is gold. Reminds me of an old show in the UK called "The Day Today"

TheTinMenBlog · 2024-05-07T11:57:44+00:00

As per usual, I’m late to the party; and like Goldy Locks, Winnie the Pooh, and other children’s stories… this party includes bears.

I’m not slow to such meme wars because I’m unaware, or unable to respond to them, but because I always hope I don’t need to – and that the common sense of humanity will prevail.

But it rarely does.

And more often, the grasping hands pull us all down into the mud of stupidity, to sploosh about in what is yet another race to the bottom.

Yes.

A shrill army of TikTokkers are making the claim that women would rather meet a bear in the forest, than a man.

And not Paddington with his marmalade sandwiches… but a literal bear.

A bear, that can weigh 600 lbs and stands at 8 feet tall, that will eat you alive, is the womens’ preference over some random man, who is probably eating a sandwich and just as startled as you are.

To those who chose ‘bear’, I don’t believe you.

Nor do I believe such an idea makes an important rhetorical point either.

Such low IQ memes make no well intended attempt to address the causes of violence, risk factors, ways of mitigating them, or indeed those most at risk.

No… instead we’ve chosen to talk about bears.

Here’s a question, do you think if we swapped every single man in America, with a bear, rates of violence would increase, or decrease?

Has a bear ever saved you from a burning building, a flood, an accident; stepping in to help you, or protecting you from danger?

Or better yet… if you live your life terminally online, marinated and immiserated within TikTok outrage, are you really the best person to comment on violent crime rates at all?

So what is the point of such thought experiments, if not simply to divide us further?

What do you think?

Man or bear?

~

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services

FBI Statistics

U.S. Department of Justice 2020

Infinite_Procedure98 · 2024-05-07T12:34:32+00:00

Only 0,000001% of women's deaths are caused by by [name of rare poisonous spider]. So go with it rather than with a man.

saito200 · 2024-05-07T13:39:00+00:00

We live in the meme dimension

entingmat2 · 2024-05-07T13:42:12+00:00

These slides are awesome, keep up the great work 👍

Random_User-2024 · 2024-05-07T13:58:39+00:00

Here is a video of the man or bear hypothetical in real life. A woman alone encounters a bear in the trail. The bear isn't aggressive, but is curious and follows the woman slowly as she backs away. Interestingly, towards the end of the video, the woman, retreating the bear, encounters a male stranger, presenting her with the real life choice between man or bear. Of course, she chooses the man.

https://youtu.be/ICVpIUeD6gY?si=q-_mphUwZ6x7gVhg

rohan62442 · 2024-05-07T18:10:33+00:00

Why? Why do you care?

The past week or so since this has been going on has been really revelatory for me. The misandry isn't a surprise, but I was shocked by how much more cynical and (it has to be said) selfish I've become.

There have been men and women arguing against his question and opposing the misandry with facts and logic. They've been wasting their time; these misandrists didn't reason them into this answer and you won't be able to reason them out of it.

And I don't care. Neither should you.

To all the misandrists who picked the bear: I, too, would prefer if you pick the bear.

Poppa_Cialis · 2024-05-07T20:12:10+00:00

I like to ask them a new question which makes their heads spin " bear or a black guy" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Awkward_Buddy7350 · 2024-05-07T12:43:47+00:00

I love the memes that came out of this

Embarrassed-Tune9038 · 2024-05-07T14:12:29+00:00

Would you rather be with a woman or alone?

kevon87 · 2024-05-07T20:27:23+00:00

Women: we would rather be in the woods alone with a bear than a man.

Some time later: Suicide rates among bears skyrocket, women most affected.

DrewYetti · 2024-05-07T16:09:14+00:00

Of course women prefer bears over men as they’re over 6ft, muscular, hairy, territorial and unemployed. Women choose bears over men and then complain about it when the bears become aggressive towards them. Sounds familiar?

Future-AI-Dude · 2024-05-07T14:43:18+00:00

This is getting so old... Every post is about this... A human with any common sense (this excludes feminists) doesn't need a study to know what the logical answer is... It's feminist rage bait...

SuperKing28 · 2024-05-07T15:44:22+00:00

I can’t engage in this stuff. I just spent way too long on a tiktok live trying to argue this with nobodies.

If you pick a Bear, you are mentally ill and shouldn’t be allowed to have kids.

Punder_man · 2024-05-07T19:58:08+00:00

"If you were to enter a board room alone, would you rather see a woman or a venomous snake?"

I'd rather the snake.. because its wont accuse me of sexual assault or harassment and so i'm less likely to lose my job / career..

I'm sure we can agree the above example is equally as stupid as the Man Vs Bear one..
But i'm using the same 'logic' that the Man Vs Bear example does..
Yet if I were to try posing this question on social media i'd be called a misogynist and incel wouldn't I?

Nobleone11 · 2024-05-07T21:35:49+00:00

Unbelievable they managed to turn an obviously misandric opinion piece into the latest social media trend.

Miserexa · 2024-05-08T01:52:50+00:00

These are all the arguments I've been using these past couple of days and I've been blocked like ten times. I'll take it as a win.

thapussypatrol · 2024-05-07T15:12:27+00:00

If they'd said "black person" instead of "man" suddenly the vibe changes, somehow

weatherinfo · 2024-05-08T00:55:44+00:00

I’ll take the crocodile because it won’t make up accusations to get attention

Tiny_Professional358 · 2024-05-08T02:31:24+00:00

Feminists:”hurr durr the man is unpredictable the bear is not”

InvasiveSpecies1738 · 2024-05-08T08:26:25+00:00

Also 89% of kids SA’ed by workers of some institution (e.g.: teachers) are boys reporting reporting crime committed by female staff.

Would you rather your kids teacher was a crocodile or a woman?

Aswol · 2024-05-07T14:15:40+00:00

I hate this so much... its so dehumanizing. This makes all men seem like some horrible monsters with one flick of a finger. Not to mention the whole lot of logical fallacies that this men or bear diacussion uses.

I understand where are they coming from. Those who choose the bear originally, and not because of the bandwagon, are victims who lived through something noone should.

But it doesnt justify the collective criminalisation of a whole gender. We are one mental gymnastics away at this point from collectively punish and dehumanize all men. This is not ok... if this was done with women all hell break loose. Also what should happen is that those who commited the crime should be dealt with. If we start the blame game and ostracise and so on, without the proper procedures, innocent will suffer.

Even the best intended things can quickly get out of hand. A good example of this are the Angelmakers of Nagyrév. They killed between 50 to 300 people (historians are not sure in the exact number), mostly men. What happened here is that at first the women in Nagyrév were doing illegal abortions. Later this spiraled into poisoning with arsenic. At first they killed abusive husbands, but the first world war broke out, and all available men went to the front lines. So these women left alone while, the town itself housed several pow-s. These women had several affairs and lovers from these pows etc etc... and when the husbands came back after the war ended.. well... the women there didnt really wanted to return to the old ways with their husband so everyone was poisoned left and right... Its a long and interesting story, check it out if you have the time.

Roddy0608 · 2024-05-07T16:24:07+00:00

It really highlights how much misandry there is in the west. People are basically admitting they hate men.

Lonewolf_087 · 2024-05-07T17:57:16+00:00

I want to make a meme of I’m out in the woods camping and I’m looking around and she’s on her phone. Bear comes out of the woods, eats her then the bear and I give each other a high five. LOL

Pristine_Fig_5374 · 2024-05-07T21:35:21+00:00

In my most honest opinion: the man or bear discussion simply shows how low the western society has fallen. It's a degenerated accumulation of people, who can't think in common sense anymore and are so far away from reality that...they would be eaten by a bear, if they would follow their own rules.

Preform_Perform · 2024-05-07T21:36:09+00:00

I was thinking along the lines of seeing a rattlesnake or a woman while on a hiking trip and picking the rattlesnake because rattlesnakes are cool, but at this point it's whatever.

DecrepitAbacus · 2024-05-08T07:07:24+00:00

At last...something which makes flat earthers seem sensible.

TotalBlank87 · 2024-05-08T17:56:17+00:00

Is this American discourse in 2024 lol. Country is finished

AigisxLabrys · 2024-05-07T16:25:44+00:00

This man vs bear is the one of the most first world problems I’ve ever seen.

Libracharya · 2024-05-07T17:10:43+00:00

Not just any bear. Cocaine Bear

LateralThinker13 · 2024-05-07T20:16:04+00:00

Beautiful takedown.

Tinnitus_Maximouse · 2024-05-07T20:42:22+00:00

What about the bear?

Give it a week, and it would be begging to be with the men!

EnemyRoninPrime · 2024-05-07T23:31:30+00:00

I don’t like this at all, I understand girls with male based truama posting this, but this shit is just gross. Like some women will use your for money and cheat and yet most of us I hope don’t hate all women. Because we know that people are individuals and not dictated by gender

Infinite_Procedure98 · 2024-05-08T06:21:06+00:00

The true intentions of this story (being derogatory to men) lie in comments to posts about it. After two exchanges, "women who chose bear" become ad hominem. They start to make supposition about your personal life. They go "if you disagree, then you're the problem" (really? So disagreeing with stereotyping make me a rapist?). They come with questionable statements like "every single woman has been raped or abused at least once (I've understood how they get this when a woke feminist told me that eye contact or catcall is abuse). They claim "ANY" woman will chose the bear - I know a dozen who don't, the others called me a liar. The only reason they made this story is to gaslight men, and I prefer to be insulted than gaslighted.

InvasiveSpecies1738 · 2024-05-08T08:19:51+00:00

Any man that speaks up for a bear is not a man, but a bitch.

mikroastos · 2024-05-07T14:21:52+00:00

Also we have to add that poor men commit crimes because in a world that doesn't care about them when it just happens and they need money there is no other options.

It's fucking easy to say " oh look at all those men committing crimes " but you know what is not easy seeing them one by one in the eyes to investigate what made this man violent. It was the bulling he had growing up ? It was his parents negligence ? So many things can happen to a man and turn him into something he even doesn't want to become.

ABBucsfan · 2024-05-07T15:18:35+00:00

Reality is some women know how rediculous it is. Why do I say this? I know women who hike solo and gasp they do run into men in the trails regularly. As far as I know they aren't preparing themselves to use that bear spray on them

When you dramaticize and exaggerate it kinda of detracts from the point you're trying to make. Not sure why people still try to argue that way

The-MatrixAgent · 2024-05-07T16:28:57+00:00

Also this is a really good sideshow showing statistics, one thing the people who said the bear don't understand is most people living in America won't see a bear and even in bear territory like where I live I've only seen about 1 or 2 but each say when I go out I get in close proximity with hundreds, and have never been attacked by men, but if I was in close proximity with 100s of bears each day, I would have been dead years ago, the only reason why bear attack deaths are so low is the majority of of places don't have bears and even prone areas like Alaska they carry proper protection and know how to avoid bears, so this is really a logical question knowing that if you are 10 feet away from a man and 10 feet a way from a bear the bear will most likely kill/attack you before the man would

stevesax5 · 2024-05-07T16:52:38+00:00

The Bear must be over 6 feet and shredded.

proteios1 · 2024-05-07T18:14:21+00:00

this all defaults to the basic idea that women are emotionally driven with intellect being submissinve to the emotional drive. Men the other way around. Meaning that when a man and woman complement each other rather than compete against each other, good things happen.

Hawtbawxin · 2024-05-07T18:52:02+00:00

They wouldn't chose the bear they would run to a man for protection at the site of a bear.

Last_Friday_Knight55 · 2024-05-07T19:16:10+00:00

Depends on the color of the man and the bear

BarParticular1473 · 2024-05-07T20:31:53+00:00

Wtf is up with people comparing men with bears?

Beljuril-home · 2024-05-07T20:41:46+00:00

I think a good followup to any woman who chooses the bear is to ask:

"Would you rather be stuck in the woods with a bear, a random man, or a random man you know?"

I would bet most women choose the man they know even though women are at a much greater risk of harm from men they know than male strangers (while men are at greater risk from strangers than men they know).

This just goes to show you how terrible humans are at probabilities.

If they pick the bear over the man they know or the man they don't then they are outing themselves as misandrists.

Kiboune · 2024-05-08T03:52:45+00:00

I wouldn't choose human. Stupidity of this discussion omits meeting woman in forest. Girl who would see another girl at the forest and would think "oh, thank god", has a high chance to be stabbed. In apartment under mine, girl stabbed her friend and tried to hide her in a snow. I remember reading news article about wife stabbing husband because he didn't like her soup.

kuunami79 · 2024-05-08T19:26:49+00:00

If you actually put them in a real situation where they have to choose a bear or a man, I guarantee you the majority of women would choose the man over the bear. I think women of today have been conditioned to automatically take shots at men whenever the opportunity presents itself and there is no societal backlash for doing it. Men are expected to be respectful of women. But that expectation of respect doesn't go two ways.

Dazzling_Sea6015 · 2024-05-08T22:24:47+00:00

All women who wants to be alone with a bear, please leave for the woods and go find a bear. Just don't go calling an overwhelmingly male forest ranger force when the bears aren't so safe anymore.

Expensive-Bid9426 · 2024-05-07T16:49:14+00:00

I choose bear.

A bear won't lie about me, undermine me, defame me, and ruin my entire life thinking that it will make him virtuous enough for pity sex.

Modernhomesteader94 · 2024-05-07T16:56:28+00:00

I think it’s time to face facts, men are just pure evil! All men, there’s no grey area. We’re all just basically the devil.

That’s what society has raised me to believe about myself.

The-MatrixAgent · 2024-05-07T16:19:10+00:00

Ain't know way someone said by "logic" russian roulette is a perfectly safe game

jcruz18 · 2024-05-07T16:35:29+00:00

Common sense is no longer common, unfortunately.

ThePaulGoddard123456 · 2024-05-07T21:00:09+00:00

Women want the bear until it tries to kill them, then they want a man. Brienne of Tarth knows that.

hohol_biba · 2024-05-07T21:17:49+00:00

Just read some of their stuff where they tryna use maths. It looks like they have missed it since 6th grade lol

MannerNo7000 · 2024-05-08T00:12:44+00:00

Love your work.

knumberate · 2024-05-08T00:29:52+00:00

What color is the man? What type of man is he? These are the questions that need to be asked. A tattoo face ms13 gang member? I might take the bear. A roided out Aryan brotherhood guy fresh out of prison? I might take the bear. A pudgy guy pushing 40 wearing khakis and a polo shirt? I'm not taking the bear. I'm making dad jokes regardless of race.

TauregPrince · 2024-05-08T18:02:07+00:00

If I was attacked by a man in the woods I'd have zero expectations of a bear protecting me.

DescriptionGeneral25 · 2024-05-11T17:26:43+00:00

Why don't they all just go live with bears then? They'de be doing us a great favour

throwaway_aagghh · 2024-05-23T02:35:29+00:00

I’m all for mens rights but these stats are stupid.

Only 0.2% of American men are arrested for violent crimes each year

What about men of other nationalities? This makes no sense. When you say 0.2% no doubt seems too small.

AlexCode10010 · 2024-07-09T09:35:44+00:00

I noticed a blog "not all sharks kill people" and I found it incredibly funny, since, by statistics, sharks are one of the least likely animals to attack humans. Yet we avoid them because of a stereotype.

Lazy-Spray3426 · 2024-07-17T22:07:20+00:00

Great work by the way. Got a website?

capital_anxiety · 2025-04-04T22:44:12+00:00

If it is true more women harm their kids it's because they're the ones who are around, keeping them alive, as opposed to men who are not there to take care of the kids. It's probability...the ratio of time spent with them.

Fast-Jaguar-1613 · 2025-05-07T18:15:38+00:00

Fuck all this bear talk now

You have 3 chooses

Your in the woods with either a

Man

Bear

Chimpanzee

One of these is not like the other

No_Activity_5246 · 2026-03-11T15:46:21+00:00

*dates horrible men they chose entirely due to looks, generalises personality to all men. “Definitely bear!”

MikiSayaka33 · 2024-05-07T18:45:34+00:00

Now, if it's a rad feminist soy boy, who is a liar and is a sex pest. I pick the bear, the bear ain't lying about killing me (Due to me invading his turf, interrupting his meal and etc.) or by some miracle, I escape the apex predator to live to see another day. Unlike the male feminist ally, who wants to ban weapons. So, I won't obtain one to kick his butt.🤔😅

Rizzistant · 2024-05-07T21:32:47+00:00

What do you say if someone claims they'd rather risk the higher chance of an immediate death over that of a low chance of rape-murder? (Not my take, but I've heard it)

EmotionalButterfly29 · 2024-05-07T14:15:24+00:00

This entire thing is just so frustrating because literally every argument they have for choosing bears is a complete lack of statistical knowledge. Would you feel safer if every man in your city/town was replaced by a bear, do you think they are just going to be frolicking around licking honey, not even noticing humans walking around? "Oh my that bear is eating my friend alive and ripping out her intestines while she's wreathing in agony but at least it didn't have the potential to look at her weird🥰😍😍💖go slayyy girlie💅💅".

dud157 · 2024-05-08T04:41:24+00:00

Wasn't there just a green text outlining this a few days ago?

wordjedi · 2024-05-08T09:54:52+00:00

It can't be true that "only a tiny minority" of men commit crimes against women?

Actual_Yesterday8280 · 2025-07-25T15:26:09+00:00

Would you rather talk to a woman or a tree about your feelings?

Intrepid_Finish1114 · 2024-05-31T02:11:16+00:00

I will pick a bear because a bear's intentions are very clear. I wouldn't even go into the woods alone with a woman. Men and women both pose a threat because mankind is unpredictable. I hate the way we word this, man or bear. Because it should also be women or bears. And I'm not saying men aren't dangerous they are. Men are disgusting perverts but so are women. But I do not agree with the term, “it’s not all men”. But it mostly is, how many men are there that are rapists, and child molesters. Still, I wish we would use the term woman or bear more often too. Like I said mankind is a vile disgusting creature but so am I, I'm far from perfect but we should be more aware of the meaning behind of man or bear.

Maryam-954 · 2025-05-26T15:45:29+00:00

A bear wouldn't lure me to it's den with the promise of safety then maul me while my back was turned.

Kafkabracadabra · 2024-05-07T19:48:09+00:00

There's something missing here...

Isn't the thought experiment based on the fact that the woman and the man/bear are ALONE, maybe in a forest or a similar secluded space?

Yes, women do encounter thousands of random men on the street, but there's a huge difference between encountering someone in a social setting in broad daylight and encountering that same person in the woods, where a crime is likely to go unpunished.

Leaving aside all of the sexist stuff, we can wonder how many people would still respect morality if they could do something that advantages them, without suffering any consequences. Just visit a public toilet and watch how manners go down the drain when nobody can know who is the filthy douche who destroyed the whole place.

Now I'd like to believe that, for the love of God, most men are decent enough not to hurt a random woman even in that random hypothetical setting, but then there is still a huge risk to take into account. Humans are not inherently good or evil, but they are capable of extremes (in both ways). A psychopath man is way more terrifying than a random bear and a random bear is way more terrifying than the average man. This thought experiment is more interesting to me when I think about it as a bet concerning the extreme cases, not as some kind of social theory that "shows" how vile men are.

Title	Man or Bear: which would you choose
Author	TheTinMenBlog
Upvotes	1201
Comments	234
Date	May 7, 2024 11:56 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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