Going through a hoe phase (or just having the ability to go through it) would fix most modern men's brainrot about women.

bv0724 · 2024-12-17T06:06:00+00:00

Not that I disagree with your CMV completely, but the part where you say men going through a hoe phase (or serial monogamy) would vanish the brainrot concerning virgins immediately seems to be untrue when you look at PPD. There’s way too many non-virgin men who seem to desire virgin women here.

funfacts_82 · 2024-12-17T06:49:57+00:00

i went through several hoe phases and it doesnt fix anything.

SpiritedAd4051 · 2024-12-17T06:03:24+00:00

I think this is the most real post on this sub in the last two years. Absolutely. Bang a few hoes, and most dudes will chill tf out and get over most of the weird angst.

TopShelfSnipes · 2024-12-17T10:22:53+00:00

I don't fully disagree with this, but this is easily disproven with the experience of most promiscuous men who settle down.

Most men are still getting in relationships, meeting women, and gaining the experience to make informed decisions of what kind of partner they want.

Most men also don't hold this "obsession over body count" viewpoint, which you even acknowledge isn't strictly about body count but about opposite sex interest in general and belief in ones's capability for fidelity, which, as evidenced by cheating in tradcon circles, isn't exactly foolproof.

I don't see this as anything serious, unless it's some kind of "incels get to experience the wonderful world of sexuality too" fantasy, in which case, maybe the small number of people that hold that viewpoint wouldn't feel like such outliers, but if this "system" were true for them, it would also be true for more attractive men and those that struggle would continue to struggle in proportion, though it might be slightly reduced which would put them in "wannabe" territory which may or may not have the desired effect on their viewpoints when they find most of the people interested in them unattractive.

notmyrealnamepapi · 2024-12-17T06:24:08+00:00

Promiscuousy is very unhealthy. We should not recommend promiscuousy for any gender. This will only cause trouble later in life when you can't even be satisfied with one person anymore

EetinAintCheetin · 2024-12-17T11:46:24+00:00

Let me get this straight? The average woman goes through a hoe phase and fucks a bunch of men, but men don’t ever get to fuck a bunch of women? So who are these women fucking? The same 5 guys in the entire universe?

Open-Quail-2573 · 2024-12-17T06:03:46+00:00

Getting ran through will not make your perception of romance/love and understanding of the opposite gender better. Being in too many relationships traumatizes most people, regardless of gender.

ConstantCode8637 · 2024-12-17T06:26:03+00:00

Then who are hetero women having sex with during their hoe phase if "men are not able to go through that journey"?

I think what you say in the last paragraph is why a lot of men are not successful.

You have all this buildup that men having a hoe phase will improve the way they see women and the relationships with them, just to end it all with young women have astronomically high standards, and that it's just over for men- that's defeatist.

Idk but to have this assumption means that maybe the women some men are focusing on are the hot, high maintenance women who several men want, so they entertain the guys who have confidence, charisma, and are physically appealing

There's gotta be some solution as opposed to putting the onus women's standards.

PracticalControl2179 · 2024-12-17T06:46:02+00:00

Red pill men suddenly become sex positive when they become passport bros.

wtknight · 2024-12-17T14:22:12+00:00

Hoe phases are more likely to make one think that there is always someone better out there than to make one realize what one wants. Everyone has to settle for less than perfect eventually. It’s no accident that studies show that previously promiscuous people are less likely to take to eventually accept long-term monogamy for themselves.

Clean-Luck6428 · 2024-12-17T20:34:06+00:00

I think 1-2 attempted actual relationships will help you a bit more in knowing what you want than a ho phase. That said, I think men would have less cloudy judgement if casual sex was more accessible so they can want a woman for the right reasons.

OffTheRedSand · 2024-12-17T06:38:56+00:00

somewhat agree, BUT it would make women have a much harder time getting ltr and dates which isn't so appealing to women.

what you're suggesting is basically make the straight dating scene more similar to gay men, this would just make sex so easy to get but much harder for a relationship to get. this won't work because cas sex is not that tempting to women the same way it is for men.

the straight dating scene is the way it is because there's a balance that need to exist between men and women, swap one gender with the other you'll get a the same problems the lesbain or gay dating scene has.

so it's not really fixing men's dating woes, more like replacing a problem with another problem.

Acceptable-Truck3803 · 2024-12-17T06:08:09+00:00

Most people would be a lot happier if they had more options. A lot of people are bitter because they get 1,2, or 3 options throughout their entire lifetime. If they screw it up or something goes wrong, it’s over.

Thus for both genders your still attempt to follow rules 1,2,3. 1. Be attractive. 2. Don’t be unattractive. 3. Follow rules 1 and 2.

S0yslut · 2024-12-17T08:27:54+00:00

I can understand how negative repeated negative experiences with women can make someone bitter but I consider negative experiences to be “bullying,” “lack of friendship” or “lack of empathy” for example not just being rejected sexually. People don’t have to accept your terms for relationships that is fine. We need competition to encourage men to do better. A lot of the sexless men I know irl are obese and sometimes even jobless for 5 years so I can’t sell that to any woman nor will I. My friends deserve better than a jobless fat loser living in mommy’s basement. The crazy thing is that represents real people I know not just a stereotype. Women can’t save you from yourself. Even when fatties do make it into relationships the weight gain gets worse not better.

flipsidetroll · 2024-12-17T06:39:23+00:00

The weird disconnect here that redpillers seem to have. All the content creators are self described chads. They all went through a hoe phase. The red pill man I know went through a crazy hoe phase. So it’s weird to see men embracing the red pill from people who went through a hoe phase and still failing at relationships.

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bluepvtstorm · 2024-12-17T10:56:28+00:00

I am misunderstanding. What exactly is a hoe phase. Is it fucking or dating? I dated a lot. I went on lots of first dates, a couple of second dates. Had some guys I dated for a few months and said nope.

Was I having sex with these dudes. Nope. I was just out there exploring life. I was in my 20’s with a body that I earned from 5:00 AM PT and a lot of pushups. I dated a lot to see what was out there.

That’s what your 20’s are for. Date around, see what you are compatible with. Date the shy guy, date the guy from another country, date the guy who does weird magic tricks, date the guy who you talk to for 8 hours cuz work is boring. You date around. You don’t fuck around.

There is a difference.

The problem became when men decided a woman dating is her fucking. It’s not the same thing.

Again for you younger guys thank the men that came ahead of you and ruined dating for you all. They got creepy and predatory and lied on their dicks to look like the big man on campus so women said nope. If you are going to lie about me fucking you to protect my reputation I am going to narrow my scope. If we work together, nope. If we have too many mutual friends, nope. If you see me in a bar, nope might not be safe.

If the standard is just dating a lot then yes I had a hoe phase. If the standard is fucking a lot. I did not have a hoe phase. I was just in my 20’s dating.

I was engaged by 22 and by 27.

rustlerhuskyjeans · 2024-12-17T13:07:13+00:00

More often a woman’s hoe phase is having random sex with men that have no interest in a relationship, who are cool and more attractive guys than they are. Women in a hoe phase often get with fboys. If it isn’t that, women are trying to have sex with very successful men, who also have way too many options for sex, and offer a dream insta life free of work or worry.

Once a woman has to date real men to get a real relationship, that’s not with a cool hot guy or a well off man. They get really depressed about it, knowing all those men really wanted nothing to do with her, she was just entertainment. She has to face she was just a regular pretty young girl and has to be with a regular guy, it’s not an easy mental transition and they will regret their past. Promiscuity is traumatizing more for women because they never had control to get in a relationship like a promiscuous man does.

This is why I find it really hard to date women in their 30s that haven’t normally been in a relationship. They want composite of all the great qualities of the men they been with, not me. They have a list of requirements for a man to deal with the fact they never got the men they wanted. Easier and more fun to date younger women or women out of a divorce, they’re not jaded about men. They appreciate you a lot more and are looking for love.

Majorllama66 · 2024-12-18T00:14:30+00:00

Idk man. I'm a guy. I absolutely had a hoe phase. It didn't do much to change my opinions of modern women.

I think modern men and women both have lots of issues. Different issues.

As long as a woman is honest, monogamous and SDT free I don't really give a crap about her past (sexually speaking). I lost count of my past partners so it would be pretty fuckin hypocritical of me to judge a woman for doing the exact same shit I did on my early 20s.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2024-12-18T04:39:22+00:00

I don't see how anyone can argue against this.

missmireya · 2024-12-17T06:40:50+00:00

Nah. Men and women are not the same. Besides, promiscuity rots the brain imo. Its unhealthy and abnormal. Yes, I know plenty of still people do it. I said what I said.

If every man got a "hoe phase" I doubt it would ever end for them. Why would any man pursue a committed relationship when he can get a different woman every single day of the week? It would be like living in Candy Land.

Vegetable-Cupcake-12 · 2024-12-17T06:32:11+00:00

😂😂😂

James_M_Croft · 2024-12-17T11:17:39+00:00

See... Thirsty teenager boys are not famous for going for trad wives and low n women. Quite the opposite. While experienced men dont seem to prefer high n prog women either (even if they will agree they are the easiest women to get sex from). The trad wife and low n thing seem to me just that a bigger number of experienced men joining the internet. the internet is not just a bunch of thristy teenagers anymore. And at leats for me. I thought I wanted prog sluts in my teenage years. i was wrong. I just wanted easy sex.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-12-17T14:24:50+00:00

I’m sorry but “if only we gave bitter men exactly what they want, how they want, when they want it” Would not lead to “less rotted men” it would lead to just more soiled and entitled behavior.

You don’t give a brat what they want just cause they are throwing a tantrum. Thats not how the world works and that’s what these dudes are learning the hard way.

SteveSan82 · 2024-12-17T09:51:12+00:00

Women who go through a hoe phase do have repercussions. Their reputation is destroyed and they are unable to pair bond.

Kingozejungle · 2024-12-17T11:14:08+00:00

To qoute Brixan Atlas, Whatever podcast, “men just don’t want whores”.

Batiatus07 · 2024-12-17T10:35:42+00:00

As a male about to graduate from his hoe phase I think they are useful for guys, this is also true of relationship only guys. The hoe phase is helpful for dudes in that it shows them all the traits in women they don't want for a long term relationship. It's also a great confident booster for guys so they can be sharper and pull better women. Then when you come across a keeper you can immediately recognize her as such.

Fab_Glam_Obsidiam · 2024-12-17T13:24:10+00:00

Everyone should have a hoe phase. I credit gay men with figuring this one out tbh. But sadly not everyone (women or men, straight or gay or whatever) has the opportunity. I don't necessarily think this is just because of women's standards being to high. After all, it's men who paradoxically want to have lots of sexual partners, but want those partners themselves to have as few sexual partners as possible (ideally zero). It's more that being on the out sucks no matter what gender you are.

Short of straight men just dating each other, I don't really have a solution. I'm not sure there is one.

Title	Going through a hoe phase (or just having the ability to go through it) would fix most modern men's brainrot about women.
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Date	December 17, 2024 5:45 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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