"Entertain me"

darkstar505 · 2016-01-03T18:11:21+00:00

Fat or out-of-shape and entitled to be so.

A conversation I had with literaly EVERY girl I have dated in recent memory:

Girl: I am chubby and I really want to do something about it.

Me: If you feel like that, join a gym and exercise.

Girl: Noooooo because I am lazy!

Me: ...

MattyAnon · 2016-01-03T12:11:19+00:00

Moral of the story: Start making your own demands and stick to your guns.

You're advocating celibacy - most men aren't going to go for it.

This is happening in the West because women don't need men for financial support, but men need women for sex. So they call all the shots to the betas while Chad gets all the action.

Moral of the story: spin plates.

squidracer · 2016-01-03T22:48:04+00:00

This is why I keep going back and forth with MGTOW.. Now that I'm in my 30's I'm just not seeing the point in putting forth the effort anymore..

Every relationship has the same cycle..

Excitement.

Boredom.

Arguing.

Breakup

Shyrk · 2016-01-03T20:50:25+00:00

It's like dating an NPC.

I laughed entirely too hard at this.

Exogyra_Ponderosa · 2016-01-03T13:23:42+00:00

Don't expect more than sex from women and you won't be disappointed.

Get to the top 20% and wait it out. Things won't be like this forever, the pendulum always swings back.

redpillbanana · 2016-01-03T16:24:51+00:00

Women are in a "buyer's market" (i.e. men are cheap) in the US and other Western countries for various reasons.

Roosh talks about this phenomenon a bit in his article: Men Are Nothing More Than Clowns To The Modern Woman.

I wrote a bit about why American women are so demanding in this submission: Why are attractive American women are so picky compared to other attractive women around the world?

If you're stuck in one of these countries, your only choices are either to leave or to push your value higher. Almost everything on your list can be seen as motivation to become a higher-status and higher-value man.

Going through your list:

No hobbies or talents

For a plate, I don't give a crap what hobbies or talents she has.

For a LTR it is more important, partially to get her off my back so I can do my own thing and partially because she'll be more interesting to be around.

The exception here is if her hobbies include massage or fitness or something else that might directly benefit me.

Expect you to carry the conversation

Women want high-value men who are leaders and leaders are the ones that initiate and move the conversation forward when it suits them.

Expect you to be the more successful one. Often incredibly disproportionately. Usually while they have some lame-ass job like stirring coffee at Starbucks. The hypocrisy.

Not hypocrisy, but hypergamy. The man needs to be higher-status than the woman for her to be attracted. The prettier she is (or the thirstier the men), the higher the status gap needs to be.

Fat or out-of-shape and entitled to be so. You can't have an opinion on the matter.

High-value men shouldn't have an opinion, instead they should have an action. Next.

Expect you to be a never ending source of entertainment. Funny, witty, clever, original. Includes but not limited to taking them out on dates to keep them entertained and keep them from getting bored.

High-value men are humorous, while women have a sense of humor to appreciate how funny they are. Christopher Hitchens goes into why women usually aren't very funny.

A high value man should also be leading an interesting life, so it should be relatively easy to invite a woman along for the ride.

High number of partners, but now many expect you to wine and dine them to get it.

Again, next.

Expect you to know how to cook for them

A high-value man, or at least a man good at attracting women, will probably know how to whip-up at least some basic dishes. Standard way to get a woman to come over is to offer to cook dinner together.

Expect you to sexually impress them

Again, a high-value man will be impressive in this area.

boomerbux · 2016-01-03T16:35:46+00:00

This is bang on. I recall when I was in my 20's and still desperately trying to pick up women in bars, the expectation they had was that you would do a stand up comedy routine improvised on the spot, yet also be dark and mysterious, be a bad boy and also a super nice guy with a heart of gold, have neck tattoos and a good job. Fucking ridiculous.

CalamariRP · 2016-01-03T16:53:47+00:00

The thesis of this post is the first thing I've noticed about women since unplugging. They offer of themselves whatever you are confident enough to take, and to act otherwise is a shit-test failure. I disagree that the bar has been set high as you said. It is much easier nowadays to work yourself into the minority percentage of men who have their way with women. Modern women are not happy, contrary to their hedonistic lifestyle, they lack the forethought to realize instant pleasure is not satisfying in the long run. By working towards virtue as the Stoics put it, we set ourselves, and our mentality, as the prize to be earned. Women are just accessories.

scarletspider3 · 2016-01-04T03:08:30+00:00

This is why we need to knock chicks off of their pedestal on our way up. Chicks are just not used to rejection like men are and will turn into a heartbroken teenager when turned down. Make a chick conform to your standards and if she doesn't then next her. If more guys had standards then chicks wouldn't be as low in quality as they are now.

NavyBoyRoy · 2016-01-03T15:25:11+00:00

Sadly, simply sticking to your guns will not work. There is always a bigger badder man that can make a woman's panties wet. I have personally seen this. You don't pay, you don't play. The market is too heavily in their favor.

I am in the anger phase, and will be for a long time. I agree with you. I actually used the dance monkey dance example in a post not too far back. I agree with you. I feel like a buffoon, keeping them entertained. To me, they are nothing more than a wet warm hole. As another sage member here described, he liked demolishing their shit tests. I tried to take on the same mentality. I have 1 plate spinning (not sure if I can technically call it that), and I kick her ass out when she acts up. She tries to go no contact and then buckles, and comes over for dick. Simply not caring has done wonders for me.

Anyways, I agree with you. These women are more like prepubescent girls incapable of worldly tasks.

LateralThinkerer · 2016-01-03T15:50:45+00:00

I agree with most of the comments, but I'm going to throw in one more thing: Selection bias.

If you're drawing from dating apps, online dating sites etc. then you're implicitly reading from a group that is at least relying on profiles rather than presence to achieve sexual/social circulation. Further, it's very likely that the hive mind drives them to write very similar profiles...because they want to be the same as everyone else. Many of the women I've dated from dating sites tell me the first thing they do is set up a bogus "male" account to see what everyone else is writing.

Find the black swans - the ones with different profiles, different and definitive statements about themselves and you might get somewhere but the rest will just be dull, self-entitled and homogeneous cannon-fodder.

KKP4 · 2016-01-03T13:35:47+00:00

More than half of the points you listed applies to most women in my country (southern EU), plus it perfectly describes my last 2 ex LTR (1 year & 2 years). I had at least three hobbies at the time (Music production, DJing, skateboarding) while having a regular job and I had to take care of my dying mother and keeping my father's psychological health in check and all she did was bitch and moan about how I'm not entertaining her enough. Meanwhile she did absolutely nothing except study and watch series and bullshit youtube videos.

obama_loves_nsa · 2016-01-04T02:10:43+00:00

And THIS is why I married a girl from Eastern Europe.

Boom. I felt like spreading my seed and settling down finally but made DAMN SURE it wasn't going to be an American psycho bitch with no talents whatsoever.

Plus eastern euros are skinnier naturally, healthier and they don't even blink when you expect them to have the house cleaned and meals prepared daily. In fact they enjoy it.

whisky1111 · 2016-01-03T23:12:26+00:00

American women are like fast food, overpriced for what it it and ultimately bad for you.

AmlanceJockey · 2016-01-03T18:21:31+00:00

Girls don't want a guy who is funny. They want a guy that makes them laugh.

The confident jerkboy who compares her face to a poodle makes her laugh. Even though its not "funny". The amateur stand up comedian that orbits her is funny, but she doesn't wanna fuck him.

Zchavago · 2016-01-03T18:11:06+00:00

Agreed. That's also why there are so many overweight girls.

PrinceofSpades · 2016-01-03T18:56:35+00:00

Welcome to why, if I marry, it'll be with a younger foreign bride.

http://www.westernwomensuck.com

You can find some real gems on this blog; I used to read it pretty religiously a few years ago when I first swallowed the pill myself but was having problems digesting it.

Important!!!*: Just remember, these women aren't unicorns. AWALT. If you bring them over and let them, they will turn into and be no different than these entitled American women we deal with daily. You MUST maintain frame no matter what, with any woman. That's the lesson we are all here to learn.

funATL · 2016-01-03T19:39:39+00:00

Good post. I share your thoughts on most American women. I think the problem is a general lack of self-worth on both sides, men and women in the Western world.

Men who lack self-worth feel a need to fuck as many women as possible and are desperate to do so. Men who have high self-worth don't feel this way. They don't pursue so desperately and enjoy the process, not worried about failure.

Women who lack self-worth feel a need to get as many male orbiters as possible without putting forth her own energy. This expands her ego and makes her feel worthy. Women who have high self-worth don't feel this way. They enjoy putting energy into relationships and value their closest relationships with men and women.

MajorStyles · 2016-01-04T02:34:55+00:00

"If you are a woman and don't know how to cook, clean, be a good, loving wife, or want many children, you are worthless."

THIS. You cannot negotiate on these points. It's this or nothing.

The_Junto · 2016-01-04T05:54:33+00:00

Had a Tinder girl say this to me via text the other day. Back in my beta days whenever I received this message I froze up and actually tried to think of something original and creative to say. Now I say "not my job" and let the Betas be her dancing monkey. This is why I envy women. I wish I could have an army of desperate, obedient pussies to send me funny gifs and tell me ridiculous stories whenever I feel a bit bored. Guess I need to lift more, then I can build an army of fat bitch orbiters to "entertain" me while I fuck the tens.

charlesbukowksi · 2016-01-04T03:50:32+00:00

This is an example of prey telling you how to be a hunter. They don't need any of that. Women need a constant, decisive man who can countervail their inconstant indecisive prattle. They want someone who can take the role their father played in childhood. A patriarch.

Women are good at being entitled, and surprisingly that gets you far in life. Believe you wear a crown and see how many treat you like a King. Back that up with determination and planning and you'll be a force to be reckoned with. But the latter isn't necessary for the height of female ambition.

the_red_scimitar · 2016-01-03T22:51:39+00:00

I realized and started to become disgusted with this about 2 years ago, in online dating. And yeah, I always think of it as "silly man, entertain royal me". Anytime I see "make me laugh and I'm yours", I gag thinking about the men who are going to try to be funny, thinking in the beta-brain how THAT is the way to her pussy. Funny (~pun) thing is, it actually can be, but not because you're supposed to be a performing chimp. It's part of DGAF, agree&amplify, etc. But don't ever dance on command.

Spiral-knight · 2016-01-04T00:10:27+00:00

You know what demographic of women, anywhere on earth can be counted on to not pull these stunts/obey their genetics?

whores. Some time ago an older poster made a compelling argument for the use of paid sex

BloodRoseTRP · 2016-01-04T03:10:14+00:00

It isn't like this in other countries, the tables are turned there.

On the contrary, it is like this. Only they don't blatantly state it and express it in other more subtle ways. I find that the more "liberal" the country, the more likely the women will straight up act entitled, and the more likely the men will bow their heads and put up with it.

the_red_scimitar · 2016-01-03T22:54:10+00:00

It isn't like this in other countries, the tables are turned there. Women have to also prove themselves worthy of marriage. If you are a woman and don't know how to cook, clean, be a good, loving wife, or want many children, you are worthless.

In what country that a modern person would want to live in, is this so, exactly as you've stated. And by this, I mean without technological or cultural "slumming". I personally don't particularly care for Bedouin women.

I am not waiting for OP to provide anything that actually is meaningful in response.

rrealnigga · 2016-01-03T23:38:54+00:00

It does seem like they basically bring their appearance and vaginas. You could argue that their "game" is simply different, it relies mainly on physical attractiveness because that's what men like. Stop talking about women like they are a different creature that evolved on its own, men and women are the same thing. Whatever is in women will have its reflection in men. In this case, women don't need to bring much to the table because men don't require them to, they only require their tits/ass/vagina.

rebuildingMyself · 2016-01-03T18:00:56+00:00

It's supply and demand. Dating sites have way more thirsty betas than women so therefore, women get lazy and the bitchiness comes out (why bother being nice when there's six other guys worshiping her?).

Stythe · 2016-01-04T00:07:52+00:00

This is generally true. Not for all of them, but I find even with the most interesting women, the best thing they bring to me s a good/ submissive attitude. Without that, everything else is a lost cause. But a lot of women.... well, attitude is all they have.

br0wnnote · 2016-01-04T02:06:18+00:00

Why do people get the dating apps?! Every reason you've listed as a bullet point fits the waste of space that is a women on these...

Dating apps are filled with spoiled lazy brats. Can you find an occasional motivated, smart, successful women on them? Maybe, I'd rather play the lottery.

Delete the dating apps. Do everything you can do to become a better man, along the way there will be plenty of women.

Moral of my story: Most women remain lazy, childish and ask, what can the world offer me. This is Tinder women.

Purecorrupt · 2016-01-04T16:15:44+00:00

Women are losers. They have to sit down to pee and bleed every month for no reason.

~Patice O'Neal

This is how I Pep-talk myself when I have doubts about myself for whatever fucking reason. Out of the dozen or so different girls I went out with last year there was only one girl that did anything mildly interesting. It's too bad she was only doing it to cope for shit I probably don't know about. And quit a stable job to do so yup...

4FF41R · 2016-01-04T16:38:18+00:00

Fat or out-of-shape and entitled to be so. You can't have an opinion on the matter and expecting you to be athletic with six-pack abs.

killxorxbexkilled · 2016-01-04T17:09:22+00:00

No hobbies or talents - I've found this to be pretty damn common. I've met very few women who were legitimately into anything beyond a shallow interest in an activity they picked up from a boyfriend along the way.

Expect you to carry the conversation - If I'm carrying the conversation that means she is short on intelligence and/or social skills. Next!

Expect you to be the more successful one. Often incredibly disproportionately. Usually while they have some lame-ass job like stirring coffee at Starbucks. The hypocrisy. - The man earning more than the woman has been the common social hierarchy for as long as I know. If I'm just fucking some girl on the side I could care less what she earns because she isn't getting anything from me except dick.

Fat or out-of-shape and entitled to be so. You can't have an opinion on the matter. - Can't have an opinion? Says who? I know what you mean though...this trend of "body acceptance" has allowed women to get away with being fat without having to succumb to social shaming (very effective btw). I say bring back the fat joke to mainstream USA and fuck their feelings.

Expect you to be a never ending source of entertainment. Funny, witty, clever, original. Includes but not limited to taking them out on dates to keep them entertained and keep them from getting bored.

These bitches can expect whatever they want but they get what I give them (which just so happens to be funny, witty, clever, and original), and if that's not good enough they can take a walk.

High number of partners, but now many expect you to wine and dine them to get it. - Haven't encountered this. In fact, I've found that girls these days are easier than ever (young and old alike). I can usually get xxx pics within a day of texting some girl

Expect you to know how to cook for them - The worlds greatest chefs are all men so...ha ha. But seriously no girl has ever expected me to cook (the expectation, I think, was for me to take her out and buy dinner)

Expect you to sexually impress them - No shit. Don't you expect the same?

kick6 · 2016-01-04T19:28:14+00:00

http://therationalmale.com/2014/09/23/the-burden-of-performance/

This is the way things are, and always have been.

BluepillProfessor · 2016-01-04T20:40:13+00:00

Upvote for comparing modern girls to NPC's. Hilarious.

200mgtestc · 2016-01-05T00:49:28+00:00

"Sticking to your guns" is validating her frame. Responding to "you need to be funny" with "let's talk about what you need to be/your standards/etc." is a conversations that acknowledges her premise.

I'd prefer to just laugh in her face because that's dumb. Then we can start talking about something else.

Money_Bags97 · 2016-01-06T04:03:36+00:00

All of you saying you wish you have found TRP at 18 (like me) just letting you know IT SUCKS.

Girls my age and younger don't care about having a strong, masculine, rock to lean on. They legitimately want a guy who wines and dines them, talks for hours about mindless bullshit, because that's the Disney fairytale they've been raised to want. They want a guy who's silly, and makes them the center of their universe. Complete opposite of what TRP says.

It's like the whole dynamic flips at a certain age. They haven't had a chance to explore.

I don't know what the fuck I'm trying to say maybe I just experienced an anomaly.

DumpmanDumpman · 2016-01-03T21:47:46+00:00

The beta boys here try too hard to please women. It has never been an issue for me because I have been great with the ladies all my life and am also very successful. Anybody who bends over backwards for a woman is a fool.

DaBaulz · 2016-01-03T18:42:04+00:00

This is true if your low value or chasing the wrong women.

Every woman is an entertaining dancing monkey for a special guy she dreams she can get. If the above is happening to you, your just not that guy yet.

ChairBorneMGTOW · 2016-01-04T06:16:11+00:00

I'm going 'speed dating' in a couple weeks. Figured I'd give it a shot. And because IDGAF about the outcome, I fully intend to run an experiment, and probe these broads (30-40) about what they do.

Not asking about their job, but what they DO with their life. Like cross country skiing, playing an instrument in a band, running a dungeons and dragons game, Army reserve (National Guard for y'all Americans), political volunteerism... Whatever.

I fully expect these broads' interests will end at eating dinner, drinking with friends, or the tv shows they watch. Or spoiling their kids (single moms are sadly allowed into speed dating).

I expect I'll meet nothing but BASIC BITCHES. Or as Roussey calls 'em, "do nothing bitches".

On the off chance I meet a woman who actually DOES something, I'll give her a shot.

another_lease · 2016-01-03T23:29:31+00:00

They bring a vagina to the table.

If men learn to love their hands... I mean really love it, they will free up 50% of their brain.

Beam_Me_Up2016 · 2016-01-04T01:10:53+00:00

"You better have an interesting opener because if anything is in my profile, it's stuff that is impossible to use to spark a conversation!"

The more I think about it, men who focus on online game are probably about ready to check out of dating altogether... and just move on with their lives, MGTOW style. The nature of women on dating sites just "seals the deal."

albino_red_head · 2016-01-04T00:31:20+00:00

Being funny in a cocky way, ripe with sexual innuendos is a great way to attract the women you want. If they're demanding it, they probably have felt the tingle before. I recommend learning some cocky/funny behaviors.

hb8only · 2016-01-04T19:34:49+00:00

if you want your women to loose a weight, you must say sth like "I love your big sexy ass" - she would start today loosing a fat believe me. reverse psychology is needed

unicorn-carousel · 2016-01-03T23:58:18+00:00

A really common thing I see is "You MUST be funny!", "Make me laugh", "Funny guys only!" in girls' bios.

LMAO, you read bios. They get the first laugh right there. Expect [...], but guys will do it because they're tired of humping their pillow. Who cares what they expect, just be yourself bro. Chad wouldn't get pissed because chicks want guys to be dancing monkeys, would he? Economics agrees it's good to get as much as possible for as little as possible, yea? I get where you're coming from, but so what? Others have given good responses, but really, who gives a shit what she says?

In practice: swipe right and carry on, screen matches over a drink or a jog (that's a great date, btw).

Goomich · 2016-01-03T19:58:04+00:00

Fat or out-of-shape and entitled to be so. You can't have an opinion on the matter.

Stop right there blue scum. WTF are doing with them after confirming this?

Saint_Gainz · 2016-01-04T12:59:13+00:00

Either one of two situations are occuring here. 1) You're a complete loser sociopath with not even an iota of common sense or 2) You're a complete loser sociopath with not even an iota of commen sense. It's almost laughable (but mostly sad) that your trying to find a partner on a dating app. Dude, really? You think you're going to find legitimate qualitites from an individual over an app that limits your bio to 155 or whatever characters is a good idea? You fuckin twat. Furthermore, everything you're saying is 100% a complete oxymoron. You sound like such a whiny bitch it's not even funny. You expect these girls to be confident and strong with a variety of charactertisics that "bring something to the table" and here you are crying into your keyboard like a little twelve year old prepubescant boy who just found out that becky doesn't like you anymore. What it sounds like to me is you're an insecure guy, you're probably the asshole of your friend group (if you even have any), or you're just another sheep among a conglomerate of pathetic losers, you constantly try to make excuses for your lack of success (i.e. this post), and above all you completely put blinders up and fail to recognize your own flaws because..."NO wait...me?!...how could ME...I...HAVE ANY FLAWS?! HABERDASHERY!" So kid, it's time for some real talk, so wipe up your tears and nut up you little pussy. It's called self reflection, it's probably the most important, if not the most important, characteristic to have. And to practice it everyday is nothing short of imperative. So next time when you're on your fifth wank of the day, lay down what I shouldn't even recognize as a synonmy for a dick, and ask yourself where mommy and daddy went wrong in molding a son into what is now a sad and pitiful little boy. You, amongst many others alike of your proletarian breed, are what makes Darwin have an aneurysm. Now...with all that aside, even if you went through 5000 girls on a dating app, you wouldn't have even stepped up to the surface of how many girls there are out there who are genuine and have "brought something to the table", that i have met that have much bigger balls than the sackless bitch i see here today. Fuck, my buddy's 8 month old daughter has a bigger sack than you. Your credulousness is astounding...a dating app haha, i can't get over it. Get your slothful ass out into the world and begin finding some substance within yourself, and maybe, just maybe, you'll actually find someone who's humble enough to let you suck their dick. Who's alpha now you cheeky cunt.

Title	"Entertain me"
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Date	January 3, 2016 12:04 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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