A lot of guys who want virgins, even if they are virgins themselves, aren’t pure enough for a lot of women who want to wait for marriage

Patrickstarho · 2022-10-12T20:44:25+00:00

The majority of men don’t want a virgin, they just want someone with a low n count.

AidsVictim · 2022-10-12T20:56:18+00:00

Is this virgin debate even relevant to more than 2% of the population that still retains those values

anjovis150 · 2022-10-12T22:00:50+00:00

Lack of relationship really seems to fuck people up. That's what I've learned from this sub. The posts are just getting more and more out of touch.

JDWhiz96 · 2022-10-12T21:57:49+00:00

IDK. I mean, since I’m religious and a virgin, I think it makes sense to want a virgin partner, no?

If I weren’t religious I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t care. I care more about loyalty and dedication, kindness, and honesty.

NockerJoe · 2022-10-12T21:55:18+00:00

The flip side is most religious celebate women find meeting anyone who even wants to match that standard really hard at best. Most people like that are usually married by like 20 or else go to places like christian colleges where they expect to get married within a couple of years. If the entire physical aspect of your relationship hinges on doing something and both people actually want to do it then they'll be doing that thing ASAP.

The kind of woman you hear about struggling the most with dating is usually the religious types who either missed that boat or want a longer but still celibate relationship before marriage. They can have morals all they want but theres 4 billion women on earth and the overwhelming majority of them don't even care about this, at least to this degree. Most mentally healthy men who don't come from a scarcity mindset aren't particularly concerned with failing a church girls purity test anyway.

RahLyt · 2022-10-12T20:18:53+00:00

These posts are ridiculous every side is trying to shame the other into accepting them.

"If you want a virgin you better not watch porn, this really hot girl broke up with her a dream man because of it" lol

Can we block this topic for like a month?

Embarrassed-Tune9038 · 2022-10-12T21:39:09+00:00

It isn't even about purity, whatever that is. It is about being mindful of your future husband and endeavoring to arrive there with minimum baggage.

You are half of why it'll work or fail.

LVZpackerd · 2022-10-12T20:37:59+00:00

Its obvious that most guys in this sub have a difficult time with women and have no idea why. Their perspective and understanding is twisted and defective. A lot of this is from porn, online media, movies and tv.

They accept no accountability or fault for their ignorance and will do nothing to improve it. Instead they blame women for their problems.

TheSandNinja · 2022-10-12T23:13:24+00:00

Depends on the threshold of the girl.

I’m a religious volcel. Never watched porn. Don’t really follow female accounts on IG. But I’ve hooked up with a lot of girls. Making out mostly, occasional crotch grabbing, oral etc.

If a religious girl doesn’t want me for that, very understandable. It’s a fair preference.

Emet22 · 2022-10-13T02:37:59+00:00

If I don't masterbate or watch porn and am also a virgin, would I fit the bill?

vogel777 · 2022-10-12T20:12:13+00:00

Yeah, lots of them also want prostitution to be legal, they just hate women and see them as a utility to be used for their pleasure and comfort. They don't see women as people and therefore are not worthy of any woman at all.

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hari_hbp · 2022-10-13T01:48:11+00:00

This keeps getting funnier everyday ...

Alive_Time · 2022-10-13T02:08:02+00:00

If you want a virgin spouse get married really young. Otherwise you were never really 100%, serious.

Expecting most healthy people to not orgasm shortly after puberty is delusional.

BetaNatalis · 2022-10-13T06:42:28+00:00

All this debate aside:

If it’s important that a woman’s partner not watch porn…..and he claims he doesn’t…..he’s fucking lying. They all watch it. And most of what they watch would be very very disturbing to their GF/SO/Wife/whomever.

Ohmaygahh · 2022-10-13T14:09:25+00:00

Purity? lol hello Dr. Josef Mengele = )

DeJuanBallard · 2022-10-13T01:17:06+00:00

Most dudes just don't want to lose their virginity to a non Virgin, it's that simple, stop reaching.

SoIlikeMangos · 2022-10-12T20:12:51+00:00

They want a fairytale. Most men are not capable of that

VasiliyZaitzev · 2022-10-12T21:09:14+00:00

You are assuming that men and women want the same things in a partner. It's a form of "gender blindness." Women tend to prefer sexually successful men and that means men who can get women/men that other women like.

Moneydamjan · 2022-10-12T23:52:00+00:00

women don't really value the same things men value, attraction is asymmetrical

2022-10-13T00:23:16+00:00

Any guys on here who think that "women who aren’t virgins are impure hoes" are in for a harsh reality check, whenever it may come. For one, they need to get off Reddit and explore the real world around them.

You're somewhat right that a lot of the "purity" oriented girls tend to be super religious and would probably reject pornography watchers, but I would also somewhat disagree - many so-called "pure" virgin girls actually frequently engage in oral sex and sodomy in order to avoid breaking their hymen. This mentality is super toxic and a relic of a less enlightened time.

I think what's important to note is the general difference between virgin guys on here and virgin women - often virgin guys are not virgins by choice, but rather because they're failing to attract and seduce women they're attracted to. Virgin women however are often virgins purely by choice, as practically any reasonable looking woman can get laid just by saying "yes" once to one of the multitude of horny men trying their luck every day.

Virgin men are likely to have major issues with things like appearance, personal hygiene or perhaps social skills or lack of confidence, in ways which impair their ability to appeal to women as partners. Virgin women however are less likely to have such problems.

The angry virgin men who frequent Reddit and listen to manosphere podcasts fail to appeal to most women in society and hence are also unlikely to appeal to virgin women too. Rather than blaming sexually active people and wider society, from the darkness of their dirty mancaves, they should consider being honest with themselves about their major flaws and making realistic efforts to work on themselves to become more desirable prospective partners.

domdomdom333 · 2022-10-12T20:25:05+00:00

So what else do you propose men masturate to? Draw their own material and only use that? Have a wank and try and remember how hot those new wheels would look on your car? Try and remember the warm feeling one summers day when you were sitting outside eating bbq with beer?

It's healthy to get off, "clear the system" so to say. Just so happens that men need visual material. Sure the motion might work eventually but it won't be the same. Thats like making a warm meal and putting it in the fridge straight away to eat it cold tommorow. Sure you won't die of hunger but what was the point of all that prep?

Pretty sure in the same logic it would be very hypocritical for women to masturabe to romance novels. Aren't they getting off to a hot situation also involving a different man to the one they'll marry later down the line?

Laytheblameonluck · 2022-10-13T00:42:36+00:00

I don't guys mind it if women watch porn but didn't sleep around.

Infact such a woman would be a catch.

HazyMemory7 · 2022-10-13T01:50:42+00:00

A lot of the virgins I know who want to wait until marriage consider porn to be akin to premarital sex.

I believe you but this is complete and utter non-sense. Porn and actually having sex are two vastly different things. And ending a relationship with an otherwise great guy because he watches porn is a poor decision. If it's that much of a hang up, discuss it with him and express that you'd like him to stop watching it.

The women that are like "if a guy watches porn, I'd never date him" probably have a million other hang ups and are left wondering in their mid 30s when Mr. Perfect is going to show up.

abaxeron · 2022-10-13T09:43:56+00:00

Why should a pure woman want an impure man?

Oh yes.

Men who watch/ read lewd content, search tags: "holding hands", "eye contact", "L-bombs", "gentle", "mutual orgasm", "kissing", "cuddling", "smiling"

"Pure" women's search tags: "true crime" "mpreg" "omegaverse" "mlm" "ddlb" "reluctant" "mm rivals to friends to lovers" "destiel" "ineffable husbands" "butt cherry"

As we all know/s, it doesn't count.

StupidWhiteBoi · 2022-10-12T23:28:29+00:00

A lot of the virgins I know

so like 7 people

I thought blues understood this, genetics takes you further in life whether male or female, as long as your good looking, honest, and decent person you can be with anybody

alphasupremacy5555 · 2022-10-13T00:00:10+00:00

It's pretty obvious why men watch porn. If a girl is with a guy and she's not going to give him sex then she can't ask him to stop watching porn. If a woman isn't a virgin, that doesn't make her an impure hoe. That idea that it does is stupid. A woman is only an impure hoe if she has slept with a lot of men or she does sex work. I personally would prefer a virgin girl though apparently that's too much to ask for these days and although I very much respect a virgin girl's desire to wait until until her wedding night, I just gonna lose interest in her. The reality is that a lot of virginal people are very religious and that's why they insist on what they insist.

gmanex · 2022-10-13T05:49:38+00:00

man virgin not pure

2022-10-13T07:14:50+00:00

First of all, I believe that it is a healthy preference for any woman to demand a man who doesn't watch porn. This of course also includes men who did watch porn in the past but ultimately ended up regretting it and stopped watching it for good for the rest of their life. Because porn and masturbation can cause death grip syndrome as well as erectile disfunction, which both could ruin the bedtime.

Now, I don't believe that porn can be put on the same place as having had a lot of sexual partners, it is similar but consuming porn would be the "lesser evil" here. This doesn't make consuming porn good though, best is to just stop consuming porn.

As a virgin and religious man myself, I believe that high n-count women have it even easier. They get to enjoy multiple amazing men and if they, at the end of the day manage to become a muslim and truly regret their sexual outter marital past, they simply become a brand new blank piece of paper, unwritten, ready to fill up the pages with amazing deeds. Whereas, me, who already is religious and unfortunately did watch porn and struggled to stop, even though I regret watching porn I can never reach that blank slate of paper status. I can only regret and keep going forward in the hopes that Allah forgives me.

I better put a dot here before I end up writing a novel.

Ramzabeo · 2022-10-13T09:05:53+00:00

I was very promiscious before my wife and she was a virgin, we are still together 10 years later, about to be 11, it has nothing to do with body count or w.e, its about the persons character.

january21st · 2022-10-13T15:51:29+00:00

I wonder how many guys would have a problem with a virgin women who masturbates/watches porn…

no_bling_just_ding · 2022-10-16T20:37:59+00:00

the women arent all that pure either

Title	A lot of guys who want virgins, even if they are virgins themselves, aren’t pure enough for a lot of women who want to wait for marriage
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Date	October 12, 2022 8:05 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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