Women will abuse good chivalrous men if they sense weakness.

Remote-Ad-5105 · 2023-03-26T14:24:19+00:00

Never take a woman out on an expensive first date lol

NationalistGoy · 2023-03-26T14:18:09+00:00

I will be the first one to confess j used to do fancy first dates in the past. Not anymore.

First dates have to be coffee or a light meal. Nothing expensive or too elaborate.

bigpapirick · 2023-03-26T13:43:31+00:00

So from this we gather that THIS woman had these standards. I don’t think it’s right to assume ALL women do.

Also if a woman is open to sex at this time in her life I agree. But not everyone is in that state at all times in their lives. I do agree that in my experience women who are interested push for intimacy sooner rather than later but this black or white way you frame it is really damaging and unproductive.

Early-Christmas-4742 · 2023-03-26T13:48:11+00:00

This is a very elaborate argument based off nothing but speculation.

Here's the solution though. Don't invest anything into a date that you're going to feel "abused" is she doesn't turn out to be into you.

gate18 · 2023-03-26T15:01:20+00:00

There's a man on the news that's known to rape women

what are we to say: "men will rape women"?

You gave one woman as proof that wome will abuse good chivalrous men.

I have one man as proof that men will rape women.

What makes you right and me wrong?

LoopyPro · 2023-03-26T15:34:58+00:00

She is a pro feminist women and doesn't believe in paying for dates

That's not a feminist, that's a walking contradiction.

bottleblank · 2023-03-26T17:17:17+00:00

She doesn't seem to comment on whether she'd continue to date either of them. From what you said I was expecting some kind of horror show "so, like, he was such a dweeb, lol, but hey, free shit, amirite ladies?"

Now, sure, I can't comprehend being able to have two dates back to back, and I don't really connect with the whole "talking stage means you get to date as many people at once as you like", but that's apparently a thing, so I can't reasonably judge her on that either.

If she really does have a demanding, disrespectful, resource-extracting attitude towards men, well, then of course I agree with you. But I didn't see her express that in the video you linked.

She says she enjoyed both, she didn't say "cool, got free shit out of those two saps, who's next?", she didn't say she wouldn't date either of them again, and frankly I'd expect her not to say "and then we went back to his place and banged", because that's TMI, it's crude and immature, and if it's the first date then I see no reason to expect that.

Safinated · 2023-03-26T14:48:35+00:00

Yes, this is a single woman doing something that doesn’t result in sex

And.....?

januaryphilosopher · 2023-03-26T13:45:59+00:00

Nobody is abused by going on a date they agree to and doing things on it they also agree to, being free to back out at any time. Maybe you wouldn't like it. Doesn't mean they're abused.

Lolabird2112 · 2023-03-26T16:20:11+00:00

Nothing about this is pro feminist. She sounds like a red pill woman.

MistyMaisel · 2023-03-26T19:41:29+00:00

Dude, sex isn't owed because ya dated. Fix your heart.

Soloandthewookiee · 2023-03-26T14:10:20+00:00

These men went through the trouble of being gentleman and traditional and caring. And in return she's extracting as much resources as possible from them and not having any sex.

So by "extracting as much[sic] resources as possible," you mean sunflowers, a dinner, and a bottle of wine?

And you think that entitles her dates to sex?

Clearly not the men who takes her on these dates

How do you know?

This is quite literally afbb in action

How do you know?

SHE WILL FUCK FOR FREE AND SOON.

And then you'll call her "run through" and not worth dating, right?

AnyIntroduction3288 · 2023-03-26T16:09:30+00:00

Wait wait wait. So she went on two FIRST dates? FIRST dates. With STRANGERS and you’re mad that she isn’t having sex with them or being exclusive with them????

What???

I highly doubt that these guys are only dating her. And how is a nice dinner and flowers RESOURCES? Can I support a family of 5 with some flowers and a good meal?

Men whine that women don’t want men who treat them well. I just had a comment from a guy who insisted that women like to be treated poorly by bad boys. This is a comment I get here like daily.

But here is a woman getting treated well. Like a princess. And she clearly enjoys this good treatment. And men are still angry???

I only want men who treat me like this. If he isn’t going out of his way to impress me then, as your words say they are fuckboys. My boyfriend gave me this treatment for a while and while now we share dinner bills and whatnot he still is obsessed with me.

nicoleberry16 · 2023-03-26T14:15:14+00:00

Your post makes a lot of unproven assumptions.

First of all, the idea of chivalry is outdated and based on patriarchal gender roles. Also, just because a man takes a woman out on a date and pays, doesn't mean that the woman owes him sex.

SlashCo80 · 2023-03-26T20:09:53+00:00

I didn't watch her other videos, but unless she actually states that she's using these guys for free meals or something with no intention to take things further, I'm not sure I see the problem. This vid just showed her going on a couple of dates, as normal people do. Are you implying that the guys are victims for not receiving the sex they were owed?

ashleyrose56 · 2023-03-26T15:13:09+00:00

Omg you guys here can't stop whining about paying 50€ for a dinner. Thankfully, I have never met men in real life like you.

Tell me how being invited to a dinner date is abusing the man? No one took the wallet out of his pocket. He willingly paid for it, as he should do if he likes her.

Sure-Vermicelli4369 · 2023-03-26T13:58:27+00:00

This is a human condition that is not exclusive to women, imo.

You should make sure the woman is invested in you before you overly invest in her.

just_a_place · 2023-03-26T18:21:07+00:00

If she actually likes you, SHE WILL FUCK FOR FREE AND SOON.

I can vouch for this.

Women will abuse good chivalrous men if they sense weakness.

I can stake my life on this.

AstronautLoveShack · 2023-03-26T14:05:34+00:00

That’s one woman. That is not all women. My husband paid for our first date. I paid for our 2nd date. And so on and so forth until we die.

BigOleGreenTrees · 2023-03-26T16:13:07+00:00

Meh. I've seen men brag about fucking 2 different girls in the same day. I've seen men brag about tricking multiple girls into believing he's their boyfriend while he sleeps with multiple other girls. Whatever women are doing is just a small attempt to reclaim what men have already invented and owned for decades.

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roger61962 · 2023-03-26T15:45:04+00:00

This is the reason why i am only with women who paid on the first date

Whnitallfallsdown · 2023-03-26T15:56:30+00:00

Don't send one red cent on a girl you haven't fucked yet

AllStickNoCarrot · 2023-03-26T20:03:31+00:00

This could just read as "bad people will take advantage of individuals who don't set boundaries or stand up for themselves."

Physical boundaries are a bit different, and situations change when threats of physical harm are introduced. In your example though, it's a situation that the man could just choose to not continue with. If he's desperate he'll likely let himself get strung along. If he's content and happy with his life outside of a relationship, it's probably easier for him to avoid somebody that demands a lot since they would be making his life worse, not better.

This is why dating advice often circles back to self-improvement. It's not about a person making theirself more appealing, that's just a by-product. It's really about a person learning to be happy on their own so they aren't overly dependent on any one person to be happy.

DapperDan1929 · 2023-03-26T20:11:52+00:00

She will? Lol 😂

Ok-Application-7614 · 2023-03-26T21:14:01+00:00

Here she is going on three dates in 24 hours. I assume this is with three different men: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRvx5xUq/

I wonder how many non-desperate men would agree to take a woman on a date and pay for it, if she transparently said, "BTW I'll also be going on dates with two additional men that day and possibly fucking them".

Waratah888 · 2023-03-27T00:36:32+00:00

From one video we deduce that all women abuse all men all the time? Or is it a little, just a little more nuanced?

Take a leaf out of jordan petersons approach, drill down to the details.

Badartist888 · 2023-03-27T07:31:23+00:00

I used to take women to bars on my first date (when they were quieter so often late arvo) and get the first round of drinks, normally while saying "I'll get this round, but I'm driving so can't have too many". Got myself bought as many drinks as I got them. Did allright.

Ah low pressure dates in comfortable venues with security (just in case its a weirdo catfishing you)..

Sophiatab · 2023-03-27T19:14:16+00:00

If the men find her company pleasant and fun, she's not using them. Paying for the date is the bare minimum requirement for attractive female companionship in our current society. And she is definitely not extracting many resources from them at all. The women who "extract resources" from men in payment for their dates usually walk away with at least a grand in cash or presents.

Title	Women will abuse good chivalrous men if they sense weakness.
Author	No-Return-3331
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Date	March 26, 2023 9:50 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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