Discussion : I’m starting to see the first wave of attractive hit forty voluntarily single

Weary_Regular1256 · 2023-09-08T11:18:22+00:00

What is there to discuss here? You are describing the personal lives of actual living people and are using these to describe 'a wave of attractive hit forty singles'.

Maybe these women struggle with something you don't know about? There have always been people who've never married and it's pretty shitty thing to poke a finger in their lives and put them in a discussion thread.

ArturoOsito · 2023-09-08T12:40:02+00:00

First of all wtf does "first wave of attractive hit forty voluntarily single" mean? Is there a typo here or is English just not your thing?

Maybe the hot one has been super focused on career. Maybe she has been hurt. Maybe she's just awkward and/or lacks rizz.

As for the one who wants a hot 25 year old, it's not uncommon at all for women to be totally delusional about what their sexual market value is.

The big one sounds like she has assets but is letting herself go.

Who knows. Life is weird.

Alhambra-squatch · 2023-09-08T12:18:26+00:00

You seem to be under the idea these women are interested in marriage.

That’s your philosophical end goal, but just like mgtow, not everyone wants marriage and babies.

Could they have not found someone? Maybe. I have had dozens of girlfriends, never thought to marry any of them. They didn’t “find” me and I didn’t find them.

Marriage and relationships aren’t for everyone.

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-09-08T14:19:49+00:00

What exactly is interesting?

Your intense judgment of your coworkers marriage status?

ratboi34 · 2023-09-08T11:37:35+00:00

I mean it's not the norm, but pretty common. A substantial minority of people won't ever be married or have children. This is not just true for women. 20% of 40+ women and 25% of 40+ men have never been married and don't have children. Some really chose to be that way, but apparently 80% of those people actually wanted a partner and children, but it didn't work out for them. I don't understand why it's so surprising to some people. Also, it's not surprising that you can observe certain bad or weird behaviours in chronically single people.

catwatchwsmyshame · 2023-09-08T14:59:11+00:00

Gotta be a fucking loser, especially as a woman when you have literally 1000s of choices, to be single at 40. Or fat, like the last one. That's if you are looking, which all clearly are.

Oh you got a big job and make a lot of money? Wow, who cares, no man wants to be around you still. That says a lot, no money can fix that. It's basically the same as a stem engineer need who makes bank but has no social skills. Now you are just a rich loser.

dishonouronmycow · 2023-09-08T11:01:49+00:00

I think we will see an increase in charities for the lonely & elderly in an attempt to combat the effects of people being alone as they age

oneblackcoffeeplease · 2023-09-08T10:52:01+00:00

and what it means for men.

alcohol abuse
video games
porn
hookers
depression
suicide

(thats not necessarily a new thing tho, go to small scrufy bars and look whos in it, its always 90% old single dudes and a waitress in her 50s)

Nellylocheadbean · 2023-09-08T12:33:50+00:00

Let them be single. Men don’t wanna be settled for anyway. Unfortunately women don’t really like men & would rather be depressed, lonely and single than deal with a man who provides her no value or low value.

This means for men that your sanity will probably start to deteriorate. Men may not need to survive but it’s clear men need at least one woman in their life to protect their own sanity. In general You don’t see women killing themselves or killing their man because he left her. Actually over 30% of women homicides are done by a man she is or was romantically involved with.

SierraMistSoda · 2023-09-08T14:59:02+00:00

Men are just not pursuing marriage as much anymore. They don't have any money, but the little money they do have they are afraid of spending a dime on someone else who isn't perfect.

Flightlessbirbz · 2023-09-08T17:31:04+00:00

What do you mean “first wave”? There have always been voluntarily single attractive people. Then you go on to describe one woman who maybe fits this description, one two isn’t attractive, and one who isn’t attractive and usually isn’t single. So I’m not exactly sure what point you’re trying to get across here. You can’t really speculate about the lives of people you don’t even know that well.

Lovemelikeareptile1 · 2023-09-08T10:50:51+00:00

Hey, maybe I'm crazy and also old, but maybe it's time to stop reducing women's value down to their ability to catch a man who is willing to provide their security.

daddysgotanew · 2023-09-08T11:15:21+00:00

They’ve all had 100 good men who wanted to commit. Those men just weren’t good looking enough .

Oh well, it’s time for a population crash anyway. We have way too many people in the US

Reasonable_Listen514 · 2023-09-08T19:35:33+00:00

Until they start complaining to the world that they never started a family because "there aren't any good men", then I don't care what they do. If they don't want marriage and kids, and had rather be single career women, good for them. At least that way, they won't ruin a man's life by getting into a marriage they never truly wanted.

AreOut · 2023-09-08T10:59:01+00:00

In the first case I simply don’t get how she’s single. Absolutely stunning. Surely an attractive guy would have wanted to commit to her by now? And it’s not like she’s not looking, she’s on a premium dating app you pay for.

nah, attractive guy that wants family won't commit to a 40yo woman, unless they already have kids

0DarkFlirty · 2023-09-08T11:56:02+00:00

Just because they're single doesn't mean they aren't fucking someone and getting their sexual needs met

Lift_and_Lurk · 2023-09-08T13:25:42+00:00

My wife’s yoga instructor is over forty, divorced. She’s turned to casual sex with younger dudes because men her age were all about getting married(more often re married) when she was very happy with her single life. So she found that younger dudes were way more receptive to just casual hookups. So she’s been enjoying that for a few years now. Maybe one day she’ll settle down, or even settle down with a younger dude? Who knows, but right now she’s really happy with how things are going. And she doesn’t seem to have any shortage of young men looking for casual, so: yeah.

Rottingcarcasses · 2023-09-08T14:22:28+00:00

I’m 35 and single and childless. Here’s the deal I was in an 11 year relationship and then a 3 year, which means since age 18 I have been single like 4 years max, about 2 since 20. So even though I count as single now doesn’t mean I was always single or never going to partner again. I’m finding a lot of men who want to remain childfree and unmarried too. That doesn’t mean they are failures or won’t partner.

Plenty of men have great attributes, but upon further inspection are hardcore alcoholics or want to cheat alot. Could I date one of these men? Yes. But why? I don’t blame the attractive woman for wanting a decent partner. Sometimes the more attractive you are the more men treat you like a sex object.

Safinated · 2023-09-08T14:39:25+00:00

Taking anecdotes and opinions and presenting them as facts and generalizations not very scientific or convincing, and often inaccurate

AcrobaticRhubarb2147 · 2023-09-08T15:08:26+00:00

Finally, women are wising up and staying single

Hellknightx31 · 2023-09-08T11:38:24+00:00

Time isn't kind to single women in the long term. Opposite for men in the long term. But hey, let them lie in their own grave.

Cethlinnstooth · 2023-09-08T11:24:01+00:00

Well a twenty something incel could do worse for himself than a medium term relationship with an unattractive forty year old woman. I mean seriously...a guy offered that should give it three years. If she's got her own place move in and save on rent... maybe save up enough to passport bro for a few months later on. Learn how to not be clumsy in bed. Learn how to desire a job well done. Let her show you a few things.

I don't think it is unrealistic for a 40 year old woman to aim on a series of medium term relationships with young men of low RMV. Tell your friend to go become part of a scene that had lots of male virgins and start systematically devirgining as many of them as possible until she finds one willing to come back for more. Magic the Gathering, maybe?

It is time low value men became pragmatic...like women have always had to be. There's clearly sexual resources that can be accessed, if you're stalled sexually it just makes sense to swallow your pride and use those resources.

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kvakerok · 2023-09-08T13:03:13+00:00

I know some women like that too. Sadly, most of them don't have a personality outside of a job.

They have never put a single thought into the talking points they parrot on every occasion and are impossible to talk to. It's like trying to have a conversation with a TV screen.

One, formerly child-free, has moved to a middle of nowhere, got in with her HS ex boyfriend who is divorced and has 3 kids, and is now trying to be a family woman, which she has no clue how to, but I sincerely wish her luck. The others are... permanently single.

Ok_Smile_60 · 2023-09-08T13:31:16+00:00

Weird, I’m 36 and I have a few friends in those same groups, haha. For the first, we all say it’s because she keeps choosing the wrong men. She always says how she wants a family, always says how lucky her friends are to have great husbands…then goes out with bartenders, musicians, and guys living with their parents. The common theme is these guys all look similar, are dumb and attractive, so I think her type just doesn’t line up with what she wants.

For the others, women in their 30’s are plenty attractive, and she doesn’t talk about wanting to be married, so she’s just enjoyed life. If she does come to regret this in her 50s, cognitive dissonance will fix that.

The last, yeah, it’s sad. But she’s still fun to hang with

ComfortableOk5003 · 2023-09-08T13:37:15+00:00

The first chick probably has Shit personality for gf material

Ohmaygahh · 2023-09-08T14:31:02+00:00

I have already seen the first cohort of stubbornly single attractive women hit 40+. I'm currently seeing the second cohort getting past 40+ single.

The first group is having a bit of hard time with it, but the second wave is better equipped. That latter group has already had their fill of hot passionate wild sex in their youth, they have long been focusing on interpersonal family and friend relationships and living life gardening, knitting, traveling (with and without the fling at the destination, not expressly to find strange cock as a primary motivator anymore), and working hard.

CryptoThroway8205 · 2023-09-08T14:34:22+00:00

weirdly is adamant she wants men in their twenties

As long as she still can. Obviously, lots of younger men want a hole where they can get one and it's not like you see a lot of wrinkles at 35. So the men will settle at least short term.

SoldierExcelsior · 2023-09-08T22:36:29+00:00

In the first case I simply don’t get how she’s single. Absolutely stunning. Surely an attractive guy would have wanted to commit to her by now? And it’s not like she’s not looking, she’s on a premium dating app you pay for.

What would you rate her?After 30-35 how hot can she be?If she's that attractive the guts that can bag her can bag a younger version of her Also Attractive women that have been gassed up on pretty privelege since 10 years old tend to have toxic personality traits.The men she wants don't have to put up with that especially not from some 40 year old,and when she was younger she probably kept telling herself she could do better and wasn't going to settle.

The second is delusional but to the point I think it’s irreversible. But why not just…cash in and find a guy at least your own age? A twenty five year old hot guy is never going to settle for her and surely she knows this?

People like what they like,that's like someone telling me to cash in and find someone my own age,I don't want a single mom with c-section scars ,stretch marks, cellulite and breast like droopy dog ears.I want someone I find attractive and pleasing to the eye.Im sure she gets offers from 20 something year old guys and has been ran through by a bunch so it gives her hope.

The third seems to have gotten lucky a few times, and I don’t know if once again it’s because she’s only ever dated guys who are quite a bit more attractive than her and now she’s failing to calibrate but she’s desperate for kids. This is the one I know the most.

It's not luck, men are like water they take the path of least resistance. Hot guys aren't going to turn down mid tier women that throw themselves at their feet.They may even Daye them for awhile to they find something better and this is why every chick I see on tik tok is complaining a out her heart being broken and asking why do guys cheat.You can bet if I'm dating a 5 and get an opportunity with an 8 I'm taking it everytime.Also women don't have a realistic view if their snv most think they're far more attractive than they are.

I frequently see post of mid tier women and every woman and some simps in the comments are telling her how beautiful she is,it confuses tge hell out if them,some women don't even understand how being over weight us a complete turn off to most men but sure they will smash as a last resort if she makes it easy a nut is a nut but they wont commit to her.

giveuporfindaway · 2023-09-09T02:25:03+00:00

I know a 40 and 50 at work. They have resigned to listening to Kpop and watching Korean dramas. They are both 4's or lower. I think they'll be single forever. They don't seem too unhappy, but I do wonder.

NakedStreets · 2023-09-09T15:51:22+00:00

I’m starting to see the first wave of attractive hit forty

Lol. “I never noticed this before, so it must be the first time it’s happed.”

Main character syndrome turned up to 11.

Title	Discussion : I’m starting to see the first wave of attractive hit forty voluntarily single
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Date	September 8, 2023 10:46 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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