Where are the impartial women?

bluepvtstorm · 2023-11-24T18:44:32+00:00

In real life I am pretty impartial. Men can get the short end of the stick on a lot of things like child support and alimony.

In this space it’s very hard to be impartial because the blanket statements are usually so egregiously bad that I can only see it from what the bloody fuck is this nonsense.

Fun_Push7168 · 2023-11-24T19:46:23+00:00

Honestly they don't stay around long. I think often what we see here is a tendency to assume another gender is hostile.

I see a lot of times, when there are reasonable takes from women , they're attacked anyhow.

As well as a tendency to grasp onto a negative portion of someone's statement and attack and generalize it to an overall attitude when a more diplomatic approach could yield a more fruitful discussion.

Hell I've seen women basically agree and still have their viewpoint picked apart as if the goal was to turn them against the person.

There's enough vitriol to make it not worth the time for women who are amenable. Of course we see more women who simply like to be argumentative when there's a big push against even those who aren't nearly so much.

Conflict attracts the most attention as is typically true anywhere.

Mexcol · 2023-11-24T17:58:37+00:00

Women naturally dont diverge as much in opinions as men, beacause they risk differing from the group views and thus jeopardizing their standing/acceptance among the group, which would spell death in the natural kingdom, the female plausible deniabilty serves this purpose and decreases the risk.

sometimesthisisweird · 2023-11-24T17:16:59+00:00

Here, nice to meet you.

Men can suck. Women can suck. Most people are good.

mlo9109 · 2023-11-24T19:32:13+00:00

I guess I'm an impartial woman if we're using the same definition as for the men in #3. Like, I believe there's truth to the statement "not all men, but somehow always a man." But also, women aren't innocent either. Problem is, if I express this, I'm accused of being a pick me and not supporting the sisterhood.

Educational_Mud_9062 · 2023-11-24T17:31:55+00:00

Ehh, I've run into a few having random conversations here. They seem to be a minority, but they're there.

wtknight · 2023-11-24T23:29:05+00:00

The few Red Pill women who have been here tend to be impartial about women. A few purple pill women here might have some impartiality.

But yeah, most of the women here tend to rally around "Team Woman" because the attack from men here is so relentless.

operation-spot · 2023-11-24T18:14:24+00:00

When y’all say neutral or impactful women what you often mean is a woman who will agree with your statement. I also see a lot of stereotypes and want to use my own perspective as someone who would be included in that stereotype but that it doesn’t apply to.

SlowEffective8146 · 2023-11-24T21:23:52+00:00

Good luck with that. Misandry is so common and accepted that women who are pure and complete misandrists even on PPD will writhe and flail at the thought that they're actually hateful. They will use any mental gymnastics possible to say hateful things and hate men without actually admitting they hate men.

MagicPigeonToes · 2023-11-25T01:04:28+00:00

I fall into the last category (as a woman), but I’m asexual and don’t care to date anyone. I call out everyone’s imbalanced black-and-white bullshit.

UnpopularTaylor · 2023-11-25T02:24:42+00:00

I consider myself fairly impartial IRL — men and women suck in different ways. Men and women excel in ways differing from each other. However, even when I speak in support of men being treated better re: dating I get dog piled by men on here just because I’m a woman. My anecdotes about loving on my bf, my bf loving on me, or my friend circle treating BOTH men and women well are seen AT BEST as fictional, and at worst somehow twisted into Wahmen bad, Men good.

That was an account I deleted since no matter what I’d say, because I am a woman on PPD, my experiences are somehow always false, unrealistic, made up, or I am an example of the worst in women. Why should I say “men and women both suck” when overwhelmingly men suck on this subreddit?

Spydive · 2023-11-25T11:13:13+00:00

They get downvoted and shushed. Look towards the bottom.

waffleznstuff30 · 2023-11-24T17:49:41+00:00

I'd like to say impartial. But there's way more incel/red pill stuff that flies around than crazy women talking points. Most of the opinions given by women are pretty valid. Come ladies let's get some wild stuff here equality! So we can point and laugh too.

We have Charles Dickens incels now. "We are Victorian street urchins. Could you spare a crumb of coochie."

Government distributed girlfriends and government run databases on where the single women at?! I see you are alone milady the government says you have to be sex friend now.

Modern women are (insert something negative here)... And it's a real problem.

Women's standards are too high!!!! Please settle.. pretty please 🥺

Women over 30 are expired goods please get wine and cats and Prozac and get to a nursing home already. Single mothers are terrible being a stepparent is the most cucked thing! Other men will judge me!

Low body count virgins who actually want to have sex with me are the only way to go. Because vaginas get loose because because a literal baby can come out of there and it goes back. But more than one penis will completely demolish it.

Chad and Tyrone have these harems and hordes of women. Because apparently we are all attracted to the same man.. and all value the same kind of dude.

So please I implore you oh great crazy feminist women say something out of left field and crazy so we have something else to gawk at I'm begging you.

Because most women's talking points seem rational in comparison.

John_Oakman · 2023-11-24T20:02:48+00:00

u/LillthOfBabylon, though her pursuit of pure honesty & truth tend to rile up just about everyone else to the point of irrationality.

MidoriEgg · 2023-11-24T17:19:36+00:00

I try to be impartial as best as a human with their own inherint bias can be, but I will say I see a lot more of the incel stuff that the extreme femism stuff on this sub, so that’s what I end up debating.

I’d love to see a woman more women saying things that are really stupid and extreme so I could feel more balanced.

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2023-11-24T17:47:46+00:00

I spent almost 2 decades disparaging and criticizing women and lawyering men in red pill spaces. now that the rhetoric has shifted to mentally ill blackpool nonsense I am lawyering women from their insanity

Jaded_Interaction162 · 2023-11-24T18:31:51+00:00

I'm a woman who watches a lot of blackpill videos. Does that count as impartial?

FebruaryEightyNine · 2023-11-25T01:52:49+00:00

FUCKING THANK YOU.

I'm glad you've pointed this out because its fo fucking weird. I noticed before and mentioned that it only seems to be men having a debate about the best course of action and only the men on here who seem to push each other back on whatever their ideologies are. Reddit (and much of social media) has devolved into this weird group think among women. Its kinda amusing because real life is so much different.

I honestly think it's because a lot of the women here aren't particularly socially adept. I tend to find the easier you have it finding like-minded individuals who you can share politically incorrect beliefs or gender affirming ideas in real life, the less likely you are to sit on reddit farming karma among disparate ideologically like minded jackasses. I have friends who've shared thoughts that would make some redpillers blush so I hardly feel the need to agree with every bozo who parrots Andrew Tate online.

Sorry but the average women on here is a buffoon. Even if you don't agree with the redpillers, you can't honestly agree with the stance of every single woman on here. I see women on here with completely opposite takes receive a ton of upvotes and no pushback. Its fucking pathetic.

The sad thing about Reddit is that it wasn't what forums where in the naughties. It's no longer of relatively computer savvy misfits and enthusiasts, Reddit is essentially for the garden variety chump whose USP is simply being a redditor instead of being an individual with a specific interest in a topic/passion/pastime.

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EveningEveryman · 2023-11-24T21:03:47+00:00

I only care about the truth not both sidesing things.

ZeeMark17 · 2023-11-24T18:13:15+00:00

They are here. They sometimes get called names by other women or they act like number 2 in your list depending on the topic being discussed. If the topic being discussed is decent and has a decent argument along with it, you will find them.

SleepyPoemsin2020 · 2023-11-25T02:05:54+00:00

My guess is, assuming that your observations are factually correct and not a result of seeing information that confirms your pre-existing beliefs (not accusing you of this, this is just a common human problem, and we don't have actual hard data on this in your post), that this is because this space has more negativity and extreme views towards women than men.

To support my conclusion: this is a space that welcomes TRP that is not quarantined.

This means this subreddit specifically welcomes a group that many find to be quite misogynistic.

It's not welcoming for example, FDS, which some people claim is a female counterpart. It's inviting TRP.

When people have less of a stake in the conversation and are not being attacked as much, it's easier to be impartial as you define it.

Also, for ladies who are looking for actually neutral discussions on dating etc., why on earth would they want to come to a place like this where they are going to be bombarded with bad faith, egregious statements?

Instead you get women like me who are specially looking to trash on TRP. Not men, mind you, I don't like generalizing 4 billion people. But red pill men, yes.

Edit: to sum up, this sub invites misogyny as its base and gets reactive misandry. And women who are looking for a neutral conversation are likely to be repelled by the misogynistic base.

RedditIsCensorship2 · 2023-11-25T17:30:20+00:00

Women have a much bigger in-group bias than man, believe very much in the women are wonderful effect, are solipsistic as fuck and can't handle accountability. So therefore you won't find any neutral women. They just can't.

Grand_Appointment191 · 2023-11-24T18:59:06+00:00

People have lost sight of the simple things in life. As well as simple thought process. For a woman/man to say each other is always right just doesn’t make any educated sense.

A lot of those “ corners will call them “ on these sites are people that have been abused that are just venting their anger instead of going for professional help.

Also, keep in mind. There is post that are untrue. A lot of victims make up fabricated statements. When you see one group, say something to the effect of (ALL) that just doesn’t make any sense. A lot of stuff is rage bait.

At the end of the day, people that post that kind of stuff would never say that in real life in front of people ( for the most part ) -

TenaciousVillain · 2023-11-25T08:00:13+00:00

I'm eager to see legitimate grievances about women discussed as well. I'm skeptical that this audience and climate are conducive to it. Posters would be up against the sort of people who think this is a legitimate grievance: "Women who adult (have an education and a job) are low value and too masculine, grrrr! They need to learn how to bring feminine qualities like doing house chores to the table!" That this is a real POV is hard not to laugh about.

The dating subs have more balanced views and much healthier perspectives from men in those subs, even those struggling. Trying to have an elevated conversation about women's and frankly even men's problems would be a much needed achievement. Reading about the problems presented as men's problems here would leave a person thinking the majority of guys have never seen the light of day.

LillthOfBabylon · 2023-11-25T09:43:37+00:00

As someone has already tagged me, I am. Whiny self pitying men and whiny self pitying women don’t really differ in behavior, such as calling people sexist when they're criticized.

dominantoneforher · 2023-11-25T19:06:26+00:00

What are you if you generally like most women and consider them to be human beings like yourself? I look at everyone as individuals and I am neutral to positive towards them unless they do something personally to change my view of them.

caption291 · 2023-11-24T19:49:36+00:00

It's nice that all the women in the comments have completely different perspectives and aren't just agreeing with eachother.

Really goes to show the depth of that female diversity.

TheRedPillRipper · 2023-11-24T20:32:34+00:00

find 3 groups

I tend to find a 4th; genuine people who acknowledge humans are beautiful in their imperfection. Just kidding. I don’t begrudge anyone their impartiality. I don’t know their story.

Godspeed and good luck!

baiser_vole · 2023-11-24T20:40:50+00:00

I delete most of my comments, but here's a few.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/17zytt1/comment/ka75zyx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/17skap1/comment/k8qlts6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/17f1wg4/comment/k67par1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/17n72u3/comment/k7py8b0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

But my usual position on PPD is rather unconventional.

nateo200 · 2023-11-24T21:53:40+00:00

This is what I’ve been wondering. I think women do a great disservice to themselves by not striving to be impartial because it makes them look like they run on 100% feelings and 0% logic all the time even when they try and package it in some academic way. They exist but I think a lot of them are terrified of getting bullied.

And to be clear the overly logical dudes are often just as bad.

FineDevelopment00 · 2023-11-24T22:38:16+00:00

Here's me calling out a form of female user.

Wonderful_Ad_3694 · 2023-11-25T02:46:08+00:00

Here's a better question: why would you assume there are impartial humans?

Title	Where are the impartial women?
Author	Im_Unsure_For_Sure
Upvotes	10
Comments	125
Date	November 24, 2023 11:22 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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