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[–]Moderatorrecyclablebanthas[M] [score hidden] 4 years ago stickied comment (4 children) | Copy Link
This post was taken down because it breaks Rule 6 on beginner topics and is basically an AMA, which breaks Rule 7.
[–]GoodMorningWanka 205 points206 points207 points 4 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link
24 - not that much confidence to date or put myself in situations for sex to happen. I am constantly procrastinating on actually approaching girls or using apps etc.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
So you're too insecure, shy to even try apps?
Like you don't have any or?
[–]yuunika 56 points57 points58 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Same here (23). Apps are actually pretty risky too. I am afraid to give my photo to apps, not because I'm ugly or sth, but because if someone I know were to see that, it would collapse my whole image irl.
[–]Change2222 61 points62 points63 points 4 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
If you pay tinder $5/month you can select an option to only show your profile to those that you've swiped on (As a guy no matter how good looking you are you really should pay, significantly improves your matches and match quality, the $20/mo membership makes your likes appear as a priority above free users. If you're not paying your profile is not even ever being shown to the vast majority of girls you swipe on.)
[–]jontttu 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Just curious where do you live?
In country of 5mil citizen i think nobody should pay for tinder. I get lot of matches with only 5km radius. Im also very picky and whenever i think someone matches my personality its almost always a match, which means they all have seen my profile atleast
[–]Change2222 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
USA, have used it in NY, PA, and now North Carolina. Although I was in more suburban environments, more people but not too many in a 5 km radius - I’ve run out of girls to swipe on pretty quick with that radius, I use like a 100 km radius. Maybe you just have a killer profile
[–]converter-bot 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
5 km is 3.11 miles
[–]majkkali 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How do you know this is how tinder works? Any source please?
[–]Change2222 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It’s a visible toggle in the app. I think you can even see it without a subscription. Tap on the profile button in the bottom right and at the crnter of the bottom of the screen there’s a button, “my tinder” or something. For me it says “my tinder platinum.” Then it gives you settings like “control who sees you” where you can choose to only be seen by those you swipe or be seen by anyone. Obviously the downside of not being seen by anyone is: if you’re really attractive or you buy boosts: no one will see your profile without you seeing them first. You’ll get less matches. If your profile is average though this doesn’t matter at all (unless you buy boosts) - you weren’t going to be seen by anyone worth matching anyway unless you swiped them first.
[–]majkkali 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh sorry, I know about this setting. I meant the other thing you said - the algorithm that apparently makes your likes appear higher if you pay more monthly.
[–]Change2222 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s an advertised benefit of tinder platinum. “Priority likes.”
[–]dreameater42 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
it would collapse my whole image
what lol?
[–]yuunika 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You know, when you try to act cool as a respectable senior, but in inside you're desperate. You wouldn't want to reflect "Hungry for girls" side of you (you care what people think about you).
I know not many can relate, but some 20+ virgins with a career can relate.
[–]dreameater42 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I dont see how being on tinder makes you look "hungry for girls". it's a perfectly normal thing to do. being on tinder doesnt mean you're a virgin lmao this perspective makes no sense
also, "senior"? like a high school senior or a senior citizen? or is this a poor translation?
[–]zystyl 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's a cultural thing.
[–]dreameater42 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
dude better stick to just not having sex at all then since people will think if he wants to have sex he must be desperate for pleasure or something
[–]Pluglord 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude needs to read NMMNG….. bad
[–]repoman2310 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're from the subcontinent.
[–]Armybert 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
please cut that shit; stop caring about other peoples expectations. You owe it to yourself. Who's going to be by your side when you're in your death bed? nobody. You'll be the only one paying the consequences of behaving like a 'respectable senior'. you have a cock, a hungry veiny cock for women and thats OK. Make peace with it and embrace your sexual side.
edit: you seem to be from a very different cultural/religious context, my apologies if my advice was insensitive towards it.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What country are you in that you're worried about that?
[–]yuunika 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not a surprise, a religious country...
[–]recursivePasta 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you have facial diafigures or is it just pimps and back skin?
Nobody is ugly
[–]axe122 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whatever image you think your portraying I bet nobody actually sees you like that……. At best they probably see you 1/2 of what you think your putting off. If you ain’t clearly ever had any hot chicks in your lap then what’s the difference? You should just use the app, don’t be all desperate on there or on 10 of them but most guys who are even successful with women are usually on 1 app or were at some point.
You care to much about what other people think of you
[–]EquivalentSnap 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm 25 and tired app but haven't had any luck. Want to loose it to a gf and not a hookup and haven't had any luck in there finding someone. Had matches but never came to anything. Had a few hookup offers but don't want that to be my first time
[–]GoodMorningWanka 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've used some apps a long time ago but when girls wouldn't respond or ghost me that would hit my self-esteem pretty hard. So that's why I avoid using them to this day.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You just have to realize this is normal.
Everyone gets ghosted and flaked on.. even professional athletes and A list celebrates.
[–]Cpt-Dreamer 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I’m turning 25 this coming week and have tried apps but they’re a nightmare. Only had one date from them and truthfully it happened because the girl was very forward and gave me her number. Most girls have zero game and if you don’t get a date organised quickly then it’s probably never going to happen. The conversation will just fizzle out.
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[–]Cpt-Dreamer 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You should still focus on getting it over the line. There is never a moment where you should give up. Take baby steps and we’ll get there.
[–][deleted] 58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link
23 - I have never even kissed a girl. Never been on a date. Never gotten a number in a non platonic setting. Got my first hug this last summer.
Why? I am super slow to open up to people, and it takes a while for me to come out of my shell. By that time, girls only see me as a friend.
Why dont I ask girls out sooner? It takes me forever to start to like someone. Its rare that I am attracted to a girl when I first meet her. I have asked girls out sooner, but I have a 100% rejection rate.
I have also been told (by girls) that while I am attractive, girls will never see me "that way". "great guy on paper" "too genuine for my own good" "husband material" are all things I have been told.
It seems that girls instantly put me in a best friend catagory or I am invisible to girls in general.
And honestly, I want to wail until I am in a long term relationship or even marriage.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Do you have many girls in your life, friends etc?
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Before I graduated in June, probably 70% of the people I interacted with were girls. Now that I am out of school and working in a 100% male field, I generally interact with fewer people, but still outside of work is skewed towards more girls than guys.
If I was to go camping with friends next weekend, out of say 6 or 7 people I invite, 4 would be girls.
[–]xNilon 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
If you really want to change this and lose your virginity you should focus on the ability to opening up to people easier and to keep yourself from being too nice. You can still be kind, but don't be too easy to get or too overfriendly. Learn how to flirt with people in general, not just women. If you combine these two parts with what you already have (attractiveness & girls being in your social circle) then you should be good to go.
Also I wouldn't suggest to wait for the special someone. Sex isn't that special, it's a rather normal and basic thing. You wouldn't wait for your first visit to the cinema to be with the perfect person or the perfect movie. I had my first time with the best girl I could imagine and it sure helped with being able to relax and enjoy, but tbh I don't remember much of it. And I'm normally someone who cares for these things and is romantic and very emotionally invested in memories.
However, just a tip. There's no need to satisfy me, you should only satisfy yourself and if you don't want to lose your virginity it's totally ok. But you should never lie to yourself about what you want, because that is what you truly would regret in a few years. And sadly you don't forget regretting this.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thanks, I will take all that into consideration. I get out enough so I will start to try flirting when I am not comfortable with the person.
I hate to use the term demisexual because I am not that, but I can relate to those people, if that makes sense.
At this point, who cares about sex? I would just like to go on a date or maybe hug a girl again. (girl friends wont hug because they have boyfriends or they dont hug friends)
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
apparently my friend didnt get your memo either. All I know is I have tried and they have all turned hugs down. Its not like they are avoiding me only, as they dont hug other guys in my friend group either.
[–]xNilon 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're very welcome!
[–]Acrimonious_cheese 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Tell these girls help you approach other girls.
Its been a while since I have asked if they know of anyone who is single. Thanks for the idea, I will ask them that as well as personallized approach tips.
[–]kex_ari 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You could try not being friendly to girls. If you’re worried about being friend zoned don’t message girls unless it’s directly to ask them out to do something.
[–]Internal_Anxiety_270 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
☝🏼This, yes!! I am a female and when I was in high school the nice guys were the guys all girls put into the friend zone. You shouldn’t be an asshole just don’t be super clingy and willing to do the girls bidding all the time. Take charge and show that you are self assured. Confidence is super sexy and attractive so even if you don’t feel it fake it until you make it. Put yourself out there even if you are a bit uncomfortable. You do this and you’ll have those girls chasing you and it works even if you are not that great looking. Believe it or not, looks isn’t all that high on a girls list.
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Thanks.
First things first. I rarely feel attraction to someone without knowing her first. Sure I can see a pretty girl but I am not often attracted. I appoach friendships as friendships. I do not enter a friendship with the intention of making something more out of it. If, after some time, I do start to develop feelings, I will make it known right away. How I do it depends on how good of friends we are.
recent example- "I really enjoy hanging out with you, so what do you think of the idea of calling it a date next time" - she has been a friend for years, we are both single and things have been starting to get a tad bit flirty between us so I decided to ask her out. she only sees me as a friend so it will be awkward for a bit but we will get over it.
I can, and have/do approach girls in traditional settings. But when I approach them, its because I wan tot get to know them as a person, not get in bed with them. How do I change the way my mind was wired and programmed? I'm not sure, I'm trying to figure that out.
As for being masculine? I have never been an alpha per say. But I am confident in myself and my abilities and skill sets. I am the type of person who shines in my enviroment. In my case that happens to be in the wilderness. I have had the easiest time making friend on my several thru hikes of long trails.
another example - The one time a girl hugged me was this summer when I was hiking with a small group in california. Shit hit the fan with storms/fires/dangerous conditions and that was my time to shine with my experience and comfort level with what was going on. She told me that was when she had seen my confidence (and what you call masculine traits) at my highest.
I hope this gives you a bit more information. If not, I can answer more specific questions.
[–]hisgreatness64 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
One, you kinda proved my point. You acted in a masculine manner and it was a turn on at least to some degree. That's the way women are wired. Btw masculine does not mean macho. You don't have to hunt or go mudding or lift heavy shit to be masculine.
Two, the meter is running when it comes to attraction. They only consider you an option for a short while and when you hesitate they assume disinterest and move on. Once they do, game over, no boom boxes over head will change that. Jon Cusack movie Google it.
Three, I think perhaps what you call developing feelings is actually you scurrying up courage. You don't have to know everything about them to develop an interest that's why dating was invented.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I fully recognise the first point, and I fully agree with you. I am working on broadening the areas of life where I am fully comfortable in.
where I think I am coming from is every relationship I have ever witnessed in my life started from two really close friends and the friendhip evolved into a relationship. So coming from that background, I dont know what a "traditional" route to relationships is supposed to look like. I dont know anyone who started dating from an app, or a bar hookup, or even meeting in a college class without becomeing best buds first.
I am hesitent on using the term demisexual because I dont think that applies to me but many time I literally do not feel attraction until I get to know a girl and become friends. It doesnt happen all the time, maybe 5% of my friends I have developed feelings for. I can flirt with a girl, make her laugh, ask for her number/coffee date after just meeting her but I dont feel anything, its as if I am just playing back a script that was prepared for me. Girls must be able to tell that given that they have all rejected me.
[–]hisgreatness64 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Bruh, trying to convert a friend who is a girl into a girlfriend is about as likely as catching Bigfoot riding a unicorn. Far easier is it to find a girlfriend who becomes a best friend.
You see this much in this sub. What can only be called a commitment to failure. Good advice given to brick walls. Only for the person heeding advice to cling to and and become deeper entrenched in a failed philosophy.
It's not your fault, after all you have to be able to write their biography and become bff's before you become attracted. I'm calling bullshit. What you're really doing is waiting until it feels safe (friends are safe, they won't tell you to eat a dick) while simultaneously blowing your window of opportunity so that you can then tell yourself your circumstances aren't your fault and this is the hand life dealt you.
You're saying to yourself "If only this person who is now a platonic friend could requite my romantic feelings that I just now realize I've developed for them. Oh why do I fail?" What a fantasy. Plainly the way you want it to work is not gonna work. So change or enjoy the results you're currently getting.
I understand fully what you are telling me. I dont know what to say then. I am broken biologically since I can't feel anything towards anyone until we are very close friends. I wish I knew how to fix that error in my biology/brain wiring. on top of that, as I mentioned, I can not think of a single time where someone I knew dated before they were close friends so I have that social wiring in me as well.
That being said, I dont place any blame on girls who reject me. Either they are friends and dont feel anything. Or they can see that I am obviously flirting off a script and know that I dont feel anything so they reject me for being a try hard.
I am just trying to explain my side of things and further understand how to fix myself.
[–]3nchantingdevil 161 points162 points163 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is reddit, we are all virgins here
[–]Deep-Advice7587 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Spot on!
[–][deleted] 72 points73 points74 points 4 years ago (53 children) | Copy Link
Can't speak for everyone else but yeah. 32 and not into casual sex. I've had more than a few chances before but didn't take them. Also, a lot of interest I've received has been from women who weren't single and thats not how I roll either, so yeah. Just patiently waiting for a good thing with the right woman to come by.
[–]lunaokazul 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago* (27 children) | Copy Link
I mean, I get that you want that special someone but I feel like your age and lack of experience would make it harder for you as you go, especially when you finally do meet that someone. It could also kinda startle her you know, not all women are thrilled to have sex with a virgin man who doesn’t really know what to do.. at least educate yourself on the matter, on how to pleasure someone and see what gets you going.
And you can’t say you don’t like something when you’ve never even tried it. Casual sex could be freeing and it could be damaging, all depends on how you take it. Why not have a quick hook up just so you know how it feels? You might like it and also it could actually help your confidence and how you are with girls, might even help you attract single ones for once
Lastly, maybe you’re asexual and that’s why you’re not that interested in it? I saw your other comment about craving it, some people really do crave it and can’t go for long without doing it. Of course each person is different but maybe you’re one of those who just don’t have the need at all?
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
I mean, I get that you want that special someone but I feel like your age and lack of experience would make it harder for you as you go, especially when you finally do meet that someone.
Experience doesn't mean a whole lot here. As long as you have experience dealing with people in various situations, you have experience. Relationship experience only involves a few more things.
It could also kinda startle her you know, not all women are thrilled to have sex with a virgin man who doesn’t really know what to do.. at least educate yourself on the matter, on how to pleasure someone and see what gets you going.
I mean personally I'm looking for someone who ideally wouldn't be putting sex on a pedestal either. If they're not experienced enough to be patient with other people and putting themselves and their satisfaction first, they're probably not ready to be in a legit relationship.
And you can’t say you don’t like something when you’ve never even tried it. Casual sex could be freeing and it could be damaging, all depends on how you take it.
That's fallacious thinking. You definitely can know that you don't like or want something without trying it first.
Why not have a quick hook up just so you know how it feels?
Don't need to. I know it would leave me feeling disappointed and unsatisfied.
Lastly, maybe you’re asexual and that’s why you’re not that interested in it?
Nope. I have a regular sex drive and I'm physically attracted to women. I just don't get hypnotized at the sight of ass and tiddies like a lot of other dudes seem to.
I saw your other comment about craving it, some people really do crave it and can’t go for long without doing it.
That might be specific to them, yes, or there might be other underlying issues causing it. Who knows.
Of course each person is different but maybe you’re one of those who just don’t have the need at all?
I don't need sex, personally, but I'm still hesitant to call it a need. There's a difference between a need and a want, no matter how strong that want is.
[–]hot_baked 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
I'm not sure I agree at all here. Have you been in a relationship at all? (I would assume not, but please correct me if I am wrong) I'd be more worried about someone's lack of experience in the relationship dept than I would in the sexual experience dept, having experience with people certainly doesn't give you an insight as to how being in a relationship is, or how to live with a partner! I can teach people sex (or at least how I like it), I can't teach them to be a partner, as that's just projecting how I want a man, rather than them bringing something else to the table.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link
I'm not sure I agree at all here. Have you been in a relationship at all? (I would assume not, but please correct me if I am wrong)
I won't. You're free to assume.
I'd be more worried about someone's lack of experience in the relationship dept than I would in the sexual experience dept, having experience with people certainly doesn't give you an insight as to how being in a relationship is, or how to live with a partner!
They're really not that much different. If you've been around the opposite sex enough, both in public and personal settings, you can do the same in a relationship. Teamworking skills aren't exclusive to sexual/romantic relationships, for example.
I can teach people sex (or at least how I like it), I can't teach them to be a partner,
Eh.. I'm not sure how true that is. We may not specifically teach people things, but they're able to learn from interacting with us, if that makes sense. That applies to everyone. Whether we learn things from others is entirely on us. Some people go through multiple relationships or experiences and don't learn a thing, so they end up going through the same problems over and over again until they learn.
[–]Xlaythe 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
You just simply cannot assert that being in a relationship is no different than interacting otherwise if you've never been in a relationship. I think your attitude about thinking you have all the answers is not helping you
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
You're the one assuming that I've never been in a relationship.
[–]Xlaythe 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Yeah you said we were free to assume :p
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Right. Doesn't mean that you're correct though.
[–]Xlaythe 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Ok, so either you've been in a relationship and you're wrong, or you haven't been in one and are asserting things you couldn't possibly know. Got it.
[–]dwightaroundya 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
On a scale from 1-10, how would you rate your body?
Are you active in the gym? Bf percentage?
If you still have man boobs are over 15% bodyfat, you are just giving up at this point
Well I don't workout so probably average-ish?
Not at the moment and don't know. I have other, more important things to do.
Right, because people only stay fit and in shape to attract the opposite sex. That's not a good way to look at things because it likely means that you'll let yourself go after you find a relationship. If I work out, I'm doing it for me.
[–]lunaokazul 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
“As long as you have experience dealing with people in various situations, you have experience” No, when I say experience I mean sexual experience, not interaction or relationship experience. It’s a whole other thing and if you’ve never had sex there’s no way that you could have experience in it, even if you watch porn repeatedly.
“If they’re not experienced enough to be patient with other people and putting themselves and their satisfaction first, they’re probably not ready to be in a legit relationship” true, it’s important to make room for the other person and be ready to compromise on things but it’s also important not to forget yourself. People tend to do it when they enter a relationship. About the patience part, I think that’s something you find out about after a while since patience takes time. Know that a person who’s had sex might have more need to it than a person who hasn’t and lack of it can make them on edge. Just keep that in mind.
“That’s a fallacious thinking.” I don’t think it is. I was sure I’d never like one night stands or have casual sex with a stranger or a friend because ‘I’m just not that kind of girl’ but eventually I did and I actually liked it for a while. I still prefer a real connection with a person over something casual but I won’t push the option away if it was presented to me.
“I know it would leave me feeling disappointed and unsatisfied.” Hey if you feel like that’s what’s gonna happen then don’t do it. I was only suggesting because you’ve never tried but obviously you know better than anyone what’s best for you.
“There’s a difference between a need and a want.” That I agree with completely.
Look, I’m not judging or trying to change you, if this is what feels right for you then go for it. I’m just honestly trying to understand and sorta trying to advice in case what’s stopping you is fear or insecurity. If not, you do you and I hope you manage to find that special someone :)
Edit: about the experience part, I saw someone commenting about how interacting with people is not the same as being in a relationship. It’s true, there are things and levels of debt in a romantic relationship that you never reach in a regular relationship. It’s an entirely other type of connection.
As I said elsewhere, if someone is expecting sex to be "good" with a new person that they're interested in without taking into consideration their past experience and not willing to "build" with that person, then it sounds a bit more like they're just looking for something that's more self-serving, or someone that will serve their interests more instead of being an actual partner. They'd be incompatible with a lot of people short of someone who is "perfect."
“If they’re not experienced enough to be patient with other people and putting themselves and their satisfaction first, they’re probably not ready to be in a legit relationship” true, it’s important to make room for the other person and be ready to compromise on things but it’s also important not to forget yourself. People tend to do it when they enter a relationship. About the patience part, I think that’s something you find out about after a while since patience takes time.
Hmm ya don't say?... Lol. Of course it takes time.
Know that a person who’s had sex might have more need to it than a person who hasn’t and lack of it can make them on edge. Just keep that in mind.
That's likely to be the problem though. If someone is basing a hypothetical potential relationship on their perceived need for sex, it's probably not going to end up being a compatible relationship unless they just got lucky (in more ways than one).
“That’s a fallacious thinking.” I don’t think it is. I was sure I’d never like one night stands or have casual sex with a stranger or a friend because ‘I’m just not that kind of girl’ but eventually I did and I actually liked it for a while.
Different strokes for different folks, sure. I just tend to think that people who say "You can't know until you try" don't really know themselves that well and/or aren't very experienced themselves.
I still prefer a real connection with a person over something casual but I won’t push the option away if it was presented to me.
I've had the option but pushed it away because the person wasn't someone I'd want to have sex with. It's more about intimacy for me than it is about the pure and temporary pleasure.
Look, I’m not judging or trying to change you, if this is what feels right for you then go for it. I’m just honestly trying to understand and sorta trying to advice in case what’s stopping you is fear or insecurity.
I'd be lying if I said there wasn't any insecurity about sex, but if someone tells me that they have certain expectations and I know that I'm not able to meet them, I'll send them on their way to find someone who will. I'm not about having pointless experiences just for my own personal benefit or for pure experience sake.
I think that's mostly because people choose to be that way, and because people want to feel like there's something special about their relationship. I think it's silly that people can only share certain things with this one particular person. Sex and kissing is another matter but telling someone you love them or non-sexual touching isn't.
[–]lunaokazul 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
About your first paragraph, many people don’t care about someone’s experience, whether they can do certain things or not, but they do seem to care about someone’s virginity. Others are actually turned on by it. Honestly depends on the person you find.
“I just think that people who say “You can’t know until you try” don’t really know themselves that well” no one knows themselves completely and truly, especially not without trying new things. We’re all evolving creatures, we keep growing and learning, even on our deathbed we wouldn’t know ourselves completely. There’s just so much to explore and learn. You know, you sound to me like a person who likes their routine and doesn’t really try new things. It’s completely okay. But it’s important to get out of your comfort zone sometimes and try new things. I could be wrong about you obv, I’m just saying what I’m getting from you.
“But if someone tells me that they have certain expectations and I know that I’m not able to meet them, I’ll send them on their way to find someone who will.” So you’d rather not try at all? Ofc it depends on what the person wants but some things you can learn while doing it. Just like at a new job, you learn the ropes as you go, no one knows everything from the start and it can be scary especially when the boss (or partner) has particular expectations from you. Tbh to me it really sounds like you’re scared and that’s completely normal, just don’t prevent yourself from trying new things because of this. That’s also the only way to gain confidence and get over the fear, I know you already know this, you sound pretty aware of things, but I’m still gonna say it to emphasize it.
About your last paragraph, I agree that one can love someone without being in a romantic relationship with them but it’s a different kind of love. You don’t love your parents the same way you love your siblings. You don’t love a friend the same way you love a partner. It’s different types and levels of love. You can totally do the same things with different people, but each thing will impact you differently. If a friend touched your hand, the gesture wouldn’t affect you the same way if a lover did it. It all depends on what the person means to you.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Right, I get that. Some people take it as a sign of something else, whether that be good or bad.
You know, you sound to me like a person who likes their routine and doesn’t really try new things. It’s completely okay. But it’s important to get out of your comfort zone sometimes and try new things. I could be wrong about you obv, I’m just saying what I’m getting from you.
Yes, I know.
So you’d rather not try at all?
Try what? Lol. It's not about me trying to prove something to myself. If a woman tells me that she wants or prefers X, Y and Z and I know that I'm not able to meet those things, she can go find someone who can. I know I'm not perfect but I'd rather not be seen as "less than" by someone who expects too much from other people.
Ofc it depends on what the person wants but some things you can learn while doing it. Just like at a new job, you learn the ropes as you go, no one knows everything from the start and it can be scary especially when the boss (or partner) has particular expectations from you.
Right. However, just like a boss, people still demand performance and don't really want to take the time to teach someone what to do. It's always easier to swap people out for one that already knows what to do, and that's pretty common in our culture of instant gratification.
About your last paragraph, I agree that one can love someone without being in a romantic relationship with them but it’s a different kind of love. You don’t love your parents the same way you love your siblings.
I think you're talking about different intensities of love. You might have more feelings for someone that you can identify with vs someone that you have fond memories of, but those feelings exist on the same bar.
You don’t love a friend the same way you love a partner. It’s different types and levels of love.
The only difference there is sexual attraction/lust. A lot of people conflate love and lust with each other but they are different.
You can totally do the same things with different people, but each thing will impact you differently. If a friend touched your hand, the gesture wouldn’t affect you the same way if a lover did it. It all depends on what the person means to you.
Right. The perspective makes most of the difference in how we choose to interact with people.
[–]Xlaythe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thats a big old no on your first response. Being in a relationship isn't at all like otherwise interacting with people, and when it comes to sex no experience = no experience
Sex =/= being in a relationship. They're separate things. Everything else is very similar.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
How long are you willing to wait?
Do you think this is an excuse you tell yourself, in some way?
Not trying to be combative, honest question?
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Well I'm 32 now so probably forever. In my opinion, sex is something that is secondary to a good connection with someone.
An excuse for what?
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Are you actively putting yourself out there to talk to lost of women to find a girl you have a good connection with?
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link
In the way that I'm living my life, yea. I'm not driving out to places that I've never been to before just to meet random women though. That sounds a little desperate.
[+]recursivePasta -13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Yeah you sound like you've brain washed yourself, we are humans, we are suppose to crave sex.
If you are not getting any, you need to do something to get it.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I didn't know this was strictly a human thing. All animals want to have sex, yes, but "crave" it? I don't know about that. I think our culture (in the west/US) is too sex-crazed, personally.
Sex isn't really a physical need, so I disagree. A lot of people that are craving sex seem to have other desires and issues that aren't being met or addressed.
[–]Xlaythe 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah pretty sure you're asexual, at the very least demisexual
Quite certain that I'm not, but you're free to assume that I'm asexual because I have standards.
[–]Xlaythe 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nah its not about standards its about your lack of drive
[–]dreameater42 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you're projecting lol
[–]mkohn773 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So your dick leads your decisions, right? Not everyone craves sex. I know I crave love, affection, and connection way more than sex. I am 60 and not a virgin but meaningless sex bores me. I have never been one for "hookups". Not my thing. Please don't be preaching your values onto others. We should celebrate our differences. This "if you are not getting any, you need to do something to get it" smacks of desperation. Sounds like you are desperate for sex. Why? I believe I have too much self-worth to be that desperate. You do you but let others do them. Make sense?
[–]Railionn 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I've had more than a few chances before but didn't take them.
why? this reeks of insecurity and downplaying it as not into casual sex. Find the right woman and open up my man
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
why? this reeks of insecurity and downplaying it as not into casual sex.
What do you mean why? Am I just supposed to take the first woman who walks up to me or something? I'm not that desperate.
Find the right woman and open up my man
Easier said than done my man.
[–]Railionn 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I get why someone would want to find "the one" for the first time sex, I'm just making sure you're not not having sex with the few chances because of insecurities. And if you truly are waiting for the right woman then good on you!
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I'm waiting for the right one. The others have mostly not been the right ones, after getting to know them well enough, and I guess the few that I wanted, I wasn't good enough for.
[–]Left_Bed_9379 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well said!
Thank you
[–]aPimppnamedSlickBack 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Why are you in this sub then?
Because I joined it. Duh.
[–]aPimppnamedSlickBack 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I ask only because you're other responses make it seem like you don't care, or you're not even trying. You don't like causal sex without ever having sex? You're in the wrong sub if you're just trying to get married and lose your virginity during marriage.
I ask only because you're other responses make it seem like you don't care, or you're not even trying.
Right now, at this moment, you're right, I'm not trying. I have other important things to be focusing on.
You don't like causal sex without ever having sex?
Ye. I'd probably be slightly more open to it after the first time, but I at least want to try doing things right the first time, if that makes sense.
You're in the wrong sub if you're just trying to get married and lose your virginity during marriage.
Seduction isn't just about getting casual sex, my dude. Seduction is the whole process of seducing anyone, whether they're just some random person or someone a little bit better than that.
[–]aPimppnamedSlickBack 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah I understand seduction isn't just about that but people are here mainly to learn how to get more woman mainly for sex. Anybody who "doesnt like casual sex" doesnt join a sub like this. And a man in his 30s who's never had sex saying it doesn't matter to him screams insecurity and denial to me. I'm not trying to attack you I just feel you're being dishonest about this.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Anybody who "doesnt like casual sex" doesnt join a sub like this.
I get that but there's no rule saying that only people who like casual sex can join. I'm here because the topic interests me.
And a man in his 30s who's never had sex saying it doesn't matter to him screams insecurity and denial to me. I'm not trying to attack you I just feel you're being dishonest about this.
I mean you're free to believe me or not but, regardless of whether you do or not, it doesn't matter or make any difference to me, and I don't mean to sound rude in saying that.
[–]vancityguy25 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
34 - Vancouver - Never had confidence with girls. Now I’m very confident and trying to lose. Working out and looking better is helping.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Now I’m very confident and trying to lose.
Trying to lose?
[–]vancityguy25 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry - lose my virginity.
[–]LiftingJourney 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What
[–]UsuallyJustAT-Shirt 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
25, kinda wasted my teenage years with drugs and depression. I think I had some chances but apparently I'm really bad at reading signals and mostly realized them like a half year later or so. Now I'm kinda intimidated by sex because of my lack of experience at my age.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm really bad at reading signals and mostly realized them like a half year later or so. Now I'm kinda intimidated by sex because of my lack of experience at my age.
Normal, even intermediate guys miss most of the signals.
No reason to be intimidated, 25 and a virgin is pretty common.
It's not a big deal at all.
I had severe cognitive dissonance, my two best friends were fat and ugly, so they lied to me and said I couldn't get girls, and I believed it. I lost my virginity at 32, despite being very handsome and in shape. Women giving me rides home, one drank beer in her hotel room, then changed for bed right in front of me, and I still didn't get it. Bend over right in front of me in yoga pants.
I dated a sociopath, and in the process of healing, it burned away all the lies. I dropped everyone, I remember every manipulation every woman did over the years to get me into bed. None worked. But I remember now, because they were manipulations, but in a good way.
I'm very good at picking up signals now, noticed a girl in a group I was hanging with was into another dude. Was right, I found out later. He wasn't hot, but she was pretty far below my league, and probably realized it.
I got auto rejected my whole life by women like that and didn't understand it. I didn't think the really hot ones were trying to fuck me, because I thought they were too hot for me and not my looksmatch. Now, I have a lifetime of regret because I remember every woman that tried that, and they were hot. Even lost a couple great possible relationships over it.
I'm starting over at 41, and having to learn approach and such, and gaming on college girls, so it's harder. But I see a lot of improvement in only a month. I feel I'll never catch up to where I should have been 20 years ago.
Here's a pic of me at 40, so you know I'm not bullshitting. http://imgur.com/a/U8ZjlkK
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I feel I'll never catch up to where I should have been 20 years ago.
Get this out of your mind..
I feel the same, but don't ever think about it or let it affect me.
I didn't get into game until I was 30.. and I'm around your age now and do amazing with girls.
You have a really cool look, masculine and unique, you should definitely be more than fine.
You can get really good at daygame very quickly if you put in the time.
33 approaches a day, 30 days in a row, 1,000 approaches total in a month.
Yeah, I'm forcing myself to approach and talk to attractive women. Have done maybe 40 this month and it's gotten easier. I'm recognizing almost instantly now when I fucked something up. Still some anxiety, but I force myself to do it.
Hired a personal trainer starting Wednesday, I've hit a plateau in my workouts, trying to hit 180, that would look good, and I get extremely defined. It's for me, but it helps with women. Started noticing when I hit about 168 last year I was getting a lot more attention.
I do have short hair now, but decided to grow it back out.
The regrets are hard because all of them looked like her, over the years. This was my organic 2 lab partner, she spent the entire semester trying to fuck me.
https://images.app.goo.gl/b5XYfjXDcbSJBWdr9
[–]Imaginary-Chipmunk35 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
18y here, and i can to blame the pandemic... I had some opportunities in this period but I prefered to wait for fear of to lose my parents... now I’m looking some opportunity, sorry for bad English
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
18 is still super young, don't sweat it.
What country are you in?
[–]Imaginary-Chipmunk35 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I think so, but the sooner I lose and have this experience, the better, I'm from Brazil
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Lots of stunners in Brazil.
[–]Imaginary-Chipmunk35 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I didn’t understand 😎
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lots of good looking beautiful women.
[–]Imaginary-Chipmunk35 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
oh yes haha
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
26 - a mixture of things. social anxiety and depression controlled a big part of my young adult life and it took me a lot of years in my early 20s to master the most basic of social skills. Now that I have those there's still some things holding me back. On the one hand I couldn't, for the life of me, do a cold approach; I just don't know what to say, how to flirt properly, etc. On the other hand I'm also not so sure if casual dating would really suit me. I feel like I need to know a girl (at least a little bit) before I can stick my dick in her and make love to her. Having said that, I do really, really wish I could do it. Just talk up a girl whilst going out and, at the very least, just make out for a bit. Just that would give my self-esteem a boost that could last for a lifetime.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
On the other hand I'm also not so sure if casual dating would really suit me. I feel like I need to know a girl (at least a little bit) before I can stick my dick in her and make love to her.
You don't have to have sex with these girls.. just get some experience with girls in one on one flirting situations.. work on your skills, gain valuable experience.
You can do it.. you just have to put yourself out there.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I try! But (and this may sound stupid) how does one initially approach? Like how do you know who to approach and when? And if you do the approaching, what do you say? How do you act? I know this is probably an open door for some, but to me these are the biggest mysteries of the universe 😅
Edit: thanks for responding at all though, I can imagine you have better things to do than teaching some virgins how to get out into the world
Whenever you see a girl you'd like to have sex with if you could..
Go out today and say "Hi" to 10 girls, any age, doesn't matter.
Once you've done this, DM me and I'll tell you what to do tomorrow.
If you take this seriously and take action, you can get over your approach anxiety in like a month.
[–][deleted] 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
17 here, had a few occasions but refused them because I want my first time to be with someone who I truly appreciate and trust.
I’m just struggling to make girls interested in me, but working on it.
[–]lunaokazul 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Don’t listen to the other comment, I lost my virginity a few years ago just so I could be “done” with it and today I regret not waiting for a guy that really appreciated me and that I felt secure with. It really made me insecure and feel like without sex no one would want me. Idk if you’re a boy or a girl, if you’re a boy then it could be different for you, and it’s true that virginity is nothing special but I still suggest waiting, not for “the one” but yes for someone you feel comfortable with and that makes you feel good and secure. Otherwise it could be pretty traumatic, even for a guy. Just do what feels right for you without hurting others.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah I’m a guy, I can understand the point of the other comment but I think that I’ll wait for someone with who I feel secure as you say.
I think that sex is more than just fucking like an animal, it’s more about the connection that you have with the other person (I’m saying that as a virgin so maybe I’m totally wrong, in which case I authorise you to correct me)
[–]lunaokazul 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, sex is a physical need and it can be meaningless and casual, you might even find yourself some day wanting to have sex without a connection and that’s okay. But I do agree that sex is better when there is a connection. SO much better. I personally can’t even have sex without a connection, I’m just not aroused no matter how hot the guy is. And it can be any type of connection as long as it feels right.
Just don’t put too much pressure onto it. It’s important to have it with someone you feel comfortable with but also remember to have fun (while being safe ofc)
[–]Narrow_Sea_8505 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
how are you struggling to make girls interested in me, if you had "a few occasions"
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It was a few years ago lmao, I don’t know what changed since then but the game seems to be harder now…
[–]xNilon 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it's because the older you get, the older the girls get you are with. And the older they are the more experienced they will be and the more they will have learned that they basically have free choice and don't need to hook up with someone they don't really like.
But that's just my opinion.
[+]recursivePasta -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah no, just fuck someone already, virginity is nothing special. Once that's out of the way you can start looking for someone truly special.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Have been a virgin for 24 years.
How come?
[–]JacobMoogberg69 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Shit, meant to write HAVEN'T BEEN
[–]dreameater42 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
lmfao
[–]Vihithihi 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
24, from India. Went to an almost all boys school and college. Graduated in May last year and been working from home since then (which is in a very conservative village). Not that I didn't have any interaction with women, I have 3 good female friends. But it's been only once in my adult life that I have found a girl interesting enough (in my final semester at college) to approach and she was not interested.
Don't have much trouble talking to girls, just feel a little shy. I had a lot of time to think about casual sex during the lockdowns and have decided that I will only look for serious relationships whenever I get the opportunity.
Looks wise I am average. Personality wise I have many hobbies and interests and always busy with something.
On this sub that I am not completely clueless when I do decide to approach someone someday.
[–]chanceplease 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
32 here. Lost it at 30.
Trust me just do it. Regretted all those passes i did so that i could find the right one.
Its a skill that needs practice. You dont want to be in a situation where your partner is so much more exprtienced then you.
That being said. A better advice would be to work on yourself.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Trust me just do it. Regretted all those passes i did so that i could find the right one. Its a skill that needs practice.
Yeah I think a lot of guys set their standards too high when younger/virgins/inexperienced with women.
100% needs practice, it's like a sport or a hobby, the more you do it, the better you get.
[–]chanceplease 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. Most of them do not understand that there are tons of more experienced guys are making moves on their "dream girl".
[–]Aggravating_Farm_125 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How did it happen if you don’t mind me askin
I found someone that really fit my criteria and went all out on it. I have a pretty extroverted personality so that made it easier.
However, the amount of mistakes i made really showed from my inexperience but i really pushed past it all.
Dont give yourself excuses.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
29, tried in the past to establish meaningful relationships, but screwed them up due to insecurities. Nowadays, no girl I like finds me attractive and so I continue as I am. I don’t do apps because I just don’t like the concept. I’m also not very good at texting or messaging.
[–]mehregan_zare7731 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We all are ... That's why we're here I'm 22 and I'm a virgin cuz I live in hell ( also known as a small town in iran)
[–]Accomplished-Sun3981 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
25 M no matches on any dating apps at all whatsoever. I am a bit big like heavy built like curvy. Also I have had some girls approach me but I couldn't pick up their signs which they show as I froze. Trying to loose my weight though. Oh yeah also I am not a witty or highly intelligent fellow like other guys who pickup girls and stuff. I am a pretty straightforward guy. Girls look at me but they are kind of turned off due to me being curvy so yeah thats it! If you have anything else in your mind you can ask me.
[–]Aggravating_Farm_125 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m on the opposite spectrum. I’m skinny . I’ve been working out and eating 3k+ calories but my job is too physical so I burn more calories. Eating this much really sucks but I was at 135 now at 140 ish. Fml lol
[–]Accomplished-Sun3981 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude then what is wrong with us!!! smh!!!
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It sounds like your weight isn't as big of a deal as you may think it is.
[–]Accomplished-Sun3981 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why do you think like that? Can you explain?
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You said girls approach you and you said girls look at you..
[–]Accomplished-Sun3981 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Approach in the sense they don't right away ask for you know date and all they do talk to me like a person who knows other person or lets say like a friend. And somewhere in between they show me signs(i think) which I am bad at reading and then they friendzone me.
[–]Business-Purpose-724 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
18- was trying to stay celibate til marriage and only last week did a girl pressure me into sex while I was drunk. I wanna say I’m still kinda a virgin bc I didn’t want to do it and it was hardly sex. I’ve had plenty of opportunities just wanted to save it for a really special person
USA or what country?
[–]Business-Purpose-724 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
USA
Yes MN
[–]Aggravating_Farm_125 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How did it feel like?
[–]Business-Purpose-724 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Like my dick was getting crushed, and then nothing. I was pretty fucked up, we barely did it. Condom was too small too
[–]Aggravating_Farm_125 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol
[–]Hr_Art 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Man it sounds like rape ???
[–]Business-Purpose-724 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah pretty much, I just had so many opportunities to say no and if I’m fully honest with myself I can’t blame it all on her. I had a 20 minute walk to her place to think about it and I definitely made somewhat of a conscious decision even though I couldn’t technically consent
[–]delusional_pancake 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
26 F- a virgin probably because I don’t really put myself out there and am a homebody. The only places I go to are work and school. I’ve tried dating apps, but they just seem so impersonal. Not really in any hurry. If it happens, it happens. If not, 🤷🏽♀️
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How often do you get asked out by guys not on apps?
[–]delusional_pancake 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Not that often tbh. Last time I was asked out was last year by a coworker with multiple red flags. Haven’t been on campus in a while because of covid, but I was approached every once in a while. Unsure how I’m supposed to socialize or flirt once all of the restrictions are lifted. I’ve never been a social person to begin with.
I wouldn’t say I’m ugly either. But the pandemic weight gain definitely doesn’t help. Trying to get that fixed lol
[–]lovejoy812 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
19m here, definitely have done sexual acts but never actual intercourse. Haven’t had many opportunities, definitely self conscious about my body. I’m more so worried about being able to please my partner. I don’t mind waiting to lose my virginity, I think it’s different for everyone and you it will happen when you are comfortable with it.
[–]tnpersona 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
People dming you about a private issue
You: makes a public thread
😂😂
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I didn't call anyone out, and from the looks of it, there's a ton of virgins in here.
[–]tnpersona 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It seems that way. This group seems to have some pretty good advice a lot of times, so if they are now they probably won't be for long 😏
[–]dustyraisininacorner 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
17 and technically virgin because of trauma
[–]Motor70001 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What sort of trauma? (Of course, you do not have to answer or be too specific if you are uncomfortable about it, perfectly fine, up to you.)
[–]goatshit777 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
19 I’m a good looking guy I’ve had many chances to lose my virginity but I just can’t secure the bag I don’t even know how to start off sex😭 I need help bad
Like you're one on one in a sex situation? Privacy etc?
[–]goatshit777 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes
[–]Sunlitstream264 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
21, saving for marriage but as for dating no luck at all so even if I wanted to get laid I couldn’t
[–]RProgrammerMan 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m waiting too
[–]throwaway902170 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
18m- Had one opportunity during 'Rona before the vaccine came out but my dad didn't let me go out of the house. I honestly think it's because I don't talk to women most of the time, lack confidence, and I judge myself so much comparing to other guys to the point where I degrade myself before even talking to a woman. Also back in my junior year of high school, I fell for a new girl who turned out didn't like me back even after showing major signs of liking me and I find myself thinking about her when I thought I was over her.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
lack confidence, and I judge myself so much comparing to other guys to the point where I degrade myself before even talking to a woman. Also back in my junior year of high school, I
My advice as a guy who's double your age..
You need to fix your confidence issues by any means necessary NOW otherwise you run the risk of being right where you're at, at 28, 38, 48 etc.
[–]Unique_Philosophy_40 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Can relate. 18m here had a few chances a few years back. Talked to over 100 girls over text (Instagram or they gave me phone) but to socially anxious to set up a date or a place to hang out alone. As a result I’m not creating chances for myself.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
but to socially anxious to set up a date or a place to hang out alone.
What exactly are you afraid of?
[–]Unique_Philosophy_40 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Good question, I’ve struggled with this for years. Mostly the lack of experience, not knowing what to say or do during the meet up. Lack of escalation to be more than friends as well. Not afraid of rejection or insecure, just uncertain of how to handle myself with girls. What’s weird is I am the most social amongst my male friend group when interacting in person, but struggle to make eye contact or talk to females.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Go on as many dates as possible, you'll improve with practice (more reps).
As far as eye contact practice it every day, everyone in public, look at them in the eyes as you walk past them, men, women, grandma, grandpa, everyone, work on eye contact while talking to people too.
[–]Unique_Philosophy_40 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is the goal to be able to initiate eye contact and not break it first?
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes 100%.. you can also throw in a smile or a head nod if you feel up to it.
Do it every day, from the moment you leave your house until the time you get home.
[–]SeanTYH 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
23 going to 24. I kind of want sex in a loving and committed relationship. Am still a virgin because the last time I went out with someone to possibly hookup, (thankfully she stopped me) I kind of started having nightmares about the whole situation, so hookups not really my thing.
Tried apps, don't got too many matches, so I m just chilling with my studies and going to the gym. Even with matches, although there might be some initial attraction, I don't really know if this match will be it and I really just can't feel or bring myself to ask to start a relationship.
[–]uneducated_scholar 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
20 - haven't tried for it and plus working on to be best of what I can be so that I can expect the same from the girl
[–]ass-thetics 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah. Got a couple bodies. I don't read much from this sub though. Maybe that's why...
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
making improvement but let's see.
What type of improvements?
[–]MystiMamba 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
19- basically because of location I live in a small town where there isn’t any girls around here and all the girls interested in me all live hours away lol
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So what's the plan?
You gonna move, or put girls on the back-burner?
[–]MystiMamba 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Back burner tbh, girls always gonna be there but time won’t so I just wanna get my car, get my degree and just work on my self to be a better man in the future
But if a girl comes in my life and makes it easy I’ll def have some fun
[–]AUG-UAA-UAG-UGA 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Smart man
[–]MalibuProducer77 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Bro I feel you on that. I've been on plenty of apps and I live in a small suburban town next to a small city. 90% of the girls that's interested in me are literally like 1-2 hours away. Must just be living in a unfavorable spot for dating. It's like the girls hours away are so eager and interested. But the girls locally are kinda stuck up and play hard to get. My area is also being extremely gentrified right now too. I think I just need to be in a bigger city with more options around and it will even itself out. Not a virgin though. But that's an interesting story 😂😂
[–]MystiMamba 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Bro I know your pain I live in predominantly white area and they don’t like brothers over here lol and that’s not a bad thing you just gotta go where u liked but it’s so annoying seeing a girl interested and she lives 2 hours away
[–]MalibuProducer77 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. I'm a brotha myself haha and the area I'm in is predominantly white too. The small city next to me has way more blacks and hispanics. It's crazy because the "gentrified and upcoming" area that's in the middle of the state, is very different from the surrounding areas. It's like the stuck up, snooty, uppity people where I'm at, and the areas hours away the people are more normal and realistic. Idk what to call it. It's like the people in my area don't think too highly of black people. A lot of gentrification, racism, and definitely classism. And it's affecting the females too. Super judgmental people here also. Shit is crazy. It's like you gotta fit a certain criteria/gotta be a certain type of person like the other people to be dateable. And that goes for everybody here. Let you not dress like everyone else dresses or talk different from everybody else here. You're gonna be outcasted! I'm not even joking.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It really sucks that people judge you like that based off race. Not even for dating but you said racism… that’s horrible man.
[–]MalibuProducer77 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. If I lived somewhere else I would've said where this stuff is happening at. The funny part is, the location is in the Top 10 best places to live list nationwide for the 2nd year in a row this year lol. Hint: My state is in the south. The blacks don't talk to the whites, the whites don't talk to/avoid the blacks, the Hispanics stick to themselves always, the Asians avoid everybody, and on top of all of that, if you're black, the other blacks try to start shit with you for no reason, they are very petty down here. It's almost as if that segregation vibe is in the air. If you go to a place, any place, even an ice cream shop, that has a reputation of majority white people always going there and you're black, they'll just look and stare at you like "Why is he here??" or have they look on their face like "Huh? What's going on?" I'm serious as fuck too. Then you go to where the black people are, and these people wanna start petty shit with you especially if you're not "down" like they are. Can't wait to move to a place with way more diversity. These dumbasses down here are STILL acting like it's the 1950s! I should put them on blast and reveal the small city next to me where it's happening at to spread the word 😂
[–]MystiMamba 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro I completely understand what your dealing with ion wanna say to much but it is what it is if you know what I mean,in them type of environments u just gotta blend in and mind yo business lol, it sucks but there nothing you can do about it
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
90% of the girls that's interested in me are literally like 1-2 hours away.
1-2 hours away definitely hurts, but plenty of girls will travel that distance..
Have you had success with girls coming to see you?
[–]MalibuProducer77 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I'm talking to this one girl that's 1 hr 30 minutes away from me. She's willing to meet up and she's been super responsive too. It's crazy because I'm in my late 20s and she's like 18 lol. Idk why younger girls like me really bad. It's like girls 18-20 are very eager to hangout 😂
Normal, girls usually like guys that are older them.
[–]MalibuProducer77 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True facts bro
[–]CloutComputing 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
25
Lack of opportunities, I have to pay for Tinder Platinum and Hinge Premium where for every 90 matches I get 1 date out of it that leads nowhere.
Also maybe a lack of confidence and trying
I have been described as a nerdy black guy
I have ADHD, but I'm not ugly. I go to the gym 3 days a week
I also live with my parents right now, I just got a new job that pays $60k a year. But I don't have enough saved to move out yet.
I don't like the nightclubs here, I'm indifferent about dating at bars
[–]JonFawkes3 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Dude once you move out the game just changes idk, and it honestly sounds like your life is on the way up which emanates attractiveness trust. Happy for you tbh
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
As someone who was where that guy is...maybe two years ago, nothing really changed.
[–]JonFawkes3 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hmm I guess it’s just dependent on the home environment you leave. Literally didn’t even feel like my life started until I left.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess I feel like my life never started. Two years ago I finished school, got the 60k job, moved out of my parents house, and nothing has changed, except now I have to pay rent.
[–]SublimeMelody 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Me
Age and why?
[–]SublimeMelody1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
20 and because I’m skinny 130 lbs and ugly.
[–]useles-converter-bot 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
130 lbs in mandalorian helmets is 34.89 helmets.
[–]ProperDefinition6668 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
21 - got fat around 15 and hit my self esteem and confidence, now I'm getting in shape (lost a lot of weight and look kinda fit)
But this acne thing came around 2 years ago severely, now luckily it's fading, but there's acne scars
These things ruin your confidence man,
Now I've lost all my friends since I'm trying to build a biz (also money is, and always was a big issue, I grew up lower middle class)
I speak very timidly now since there's not many people to speak to (working on this though)
Overall after school, I became a over shy guy, obese, timid, loner, short guy with acne
Have approached like 3 girls untill now, (all 3 within last 18 months)
All of them were into me, lost 2 of them as soon as I spoke to them
Look into Toastmasters - it's an absolutely gigantic organization..
They've always done in person meets to work on public speaking in small to large groups, but think they may still be doing online because of Covid.
And also do more cold approaches, start simple.. say Hi to 10 people a day, then move up from there.
[–]ProperDefinition6668 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for sharing this
[–]kex_ari 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You tried taking the pills for the acne? I did them when younger and it worked. There’s also injections you can do. When you get older you might end up not needing to do them anymore. I’ve not had acne issues since 22 and I’m 36 now. If you’re insecure about scarring you could grow a beard. Scars will fade too.
[–]ProperDefinition6668 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm thinking having the derma roller/pen therapy
It also makes your skin younger, like it's genuinely very healthy for your skin + gets rid of acne scars
About acne, I'm way more focused on going the ayurvedic way, so I'm trying to change my diet and lifestyle overall
I've noticed sun and sweat and avoiding sugar reduced my acne significantly
Little insecure yes, but it's okay I know what to do and I'm going that way
Thanks for your input
[–]kex_ari 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good luck bro! You’re in control of these things. Control what you can.
[–]StatisticianPublic86 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
25M
"Slept" with a couple of my exes, but never did the deed because of mental barrier. Got invited to a hot Asian's hotel room when on a solo trip, but somehow ended up rejecting that. All this was 2 years ago.
Trying to get laid from couple months, little success.
Should I even consider myself a virgin?
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Got invited to a hot Asian's hotel room when on a solo trip, but somehow ended up rejecting that. All this was 2 years ago.
Yeah lack of experience on your end.. normal for less experienced guys as that used to happen to me all the time when I was new to game.
You're a virgin unless you've put your penis into a woman's vagina.
[–]StatisticianPublic86 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Well, anyways, i have gotten more female attention in the last month than everything ever combined, but I'm not been able to close any of them! Working on my self, going out more. I've had a girl shove her tongue down my throat the instant she saw me!
If you look at a question on my profile, it chronicles my mishaps. There have been a few more but I'm a complete inexperienced mess when it comes to this.
I girl literally asked me, on Wednesday, to "get some Wine/Whiskey and ask me to hang out on Friday", but I'm not quite attracted to her. I don't know how to move forward.
Wish I could use someone to guide me, haha. But it looks like I'm by myself for now
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Watch 20 YouTube videos on How to escalate with girls/women.
Take notes
Read them every single day, and especially right before your date, and even on the date when you go to the bathroom.
Be confident and JUST MAKE YOUR MOVES.
Women like to be desired and wanted.. be a man and take what's yours.
[–]StatisticianPublic86 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Tried having sex with a hinge date few days ago. Even she was a 23F virgin. For the life of me(us), I couldn't penetrate. It was like the vaginal opening was too small/constricted and she kept telling me "your dick is too big". I have no idea what to do! She was dripping wet, yet, was very nervous I think! I guess I'm still a virgin :/
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Happens.. my experience.. sometimes it takes 2+ hours.. to finally get it in.. if she's a virgin.
[–]Dry_Reach2077 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
21 maybe because I don't talk to girls and even if I do I don't know to take it to the point wherensex happens
24 I'm a virgin. That on me for not putting myself out there. I'm not a huge fan of casual sex, but I can see the appeal behind it.
Even if you don't want sex.. go out with girls, get experience being around women in flirting and one on on situations.
Yeah, I really should. Thanks
[–]AccomplishedNothing8 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
22, male. Ive tried dating apps but u need to have cool pics for those to work out. I spend most of my time working/performing research, which is a lonely profession, and also male dominated for stem fields atleast.
Fix your dating profile.
Daygame and nightgame?
[–]AccomplishedNothing8 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My game is mostly dming ppl on several apps. Covid is still fucking over my part of the world so i cant go out very often. Bars and clubs arent an option due to this. Im also living with my parents at the moment, attending college from home. That doesnt make life easier, and this situation shall remain for the next year at the minimum. The key problem however is that i dont stop working.
You don't need to have sex.. just go out and talk to lots of women, go on lots of dates, get comfortable around girls, one on one in flirting situations.
[–]Cpt-Dreamer 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes a virgin and turning 25 this coming week. Honestly I am very introverted plus quiet which hasn’t always helped me but I made some terrible choices in my teens which I’ve only really recovered from in these last few years emotionally.
Just could not be myself when I was younger and still figuring out how to do that now. I need to basically put myself out there, because I never really have. I nearly had sex when I was 21 but I couldn’t get hard. Since then nothing close. I need to put myself in situations where I’ll actually meet women I fancy because I just don’t do that.
I need to put myself in situations where I’ll actually meet women I fancy because I just don’t do that.
Start now.. stop wasting valuable time.
[–]unndunn 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’m not a total virgin, but let’s just say my sexual experience is … lacking. 🤷🏾♂️
What are you doing to fix this?
[–]unndunn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, not a whole lot. Sex and relationships are an enigma I feel I’ll never be able to understand.
[–]hazelxnutz 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Virgin here, 26M. Although in the last 2 years I've been successful at approaching women and being overall likeable and good company, to the point where women actually like spending time with me and trust me to the point where I am the only guy in their life that can spend time alone with them. I've had some really bad luck with the girls I've really connected with sexually, from girls that are just a huge emotional mess and I lose all attraction, to girls with whom the only reason we have not had sex is because they already have boyfriends.
Theres some real irony to all of my process of learning to not be awkward around women and developing confidence in the last few years, and that is how hook up culture really meddles a lot with my own personal virtues, ethics and the qualities I want in a woman I want to sleep with. A lot of my male friends say I over complicate it with my "morals" but then I see how unhappy they are with the women they hook up with or date and all the unnecesary drama they go through.
I really dont mind still being a virgin, Im not insecure about it and all the girls Im interested in know and that honesty has drawn them in even more.
It is not even an escalating problem regarding initiating, whenever I've had the chance I've told these girls I want them and the response has been positive for the most part. The thing is I always put an offer on the table, with women whom are already taken I say to them the only way I would lay with them is if they become single and you know what? I've never had a single bad response from that, they either laugh lightheartedly or understand my point and agree with me. Even girls that have had dubious reactions at first have told me in the long run that I made the right choice and they admire that from me. Im still close friends with 2 of them till this day and have never been in a bad fall out with a woman I've shared that situation with. Same with girls that have issues, I've straight up told them what I want, but I tell them "You need to work this and or that on yourself." or "You need to go to therapy." Although women take this to the chest and I've had some bad reactions from these statements, in the long run the women that have been worth my time have stayed around even if they went to therapy or didnt, or they replaced me with someone that puts up with their bullshit.
I know this is a wall of text already but to shorten it, I know Im going to lose my virginity eventually, I know Im fully capable of losing it if I wanted, but Im not desperate to lose it. Id rather lose it with someone worth while than with a random Becky that was once featured being a total ratchet in an episode from Bar Rescue.
[–]YoBeaverBoy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
20 years old
Honestly ? I am too lazy to date and most of the time I don't feel like getting a girlfriend. To me, girls feel like not only a waste of time and energy but also a pain.
I've had relationships in which they'd want to know everything i did, they'd want me to stay with them on the phone til 3 AM and if I told them I wanted to hang up or that I wanted to play games with my buddies or do literally anything else, they'd get mad and then I'd have to spend another 30 minutes apologizing bla bla bla.
I want no more of that. I sometimes do feel lonely and feel like I want to start dating again but after a while I am like ''meh, forget it'' and I lose interest. I also tend to get bored of relationships relatively quickly.
I'm not really asking for help regarding losing my V card. Meh, at this point I don't really care when or if it's gonna happen at all. I am still curious if you formed an opinion on me or something, Idk.
[–]Motor70001 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
19M, Still holding the V-card. Not planning to lose it anytime soon. I also think that relationships are a huge pain in the rectum, like dealing with all the nagging, shiet testing and so on, going on the dates, paying for everything. Risk of pregnancy is there always, even with the contraceptives. Committing economical suicide for a few pew-pews of pleasure? Also I do not have any spare time and energy for that. Long hours in school and commuting to/from it.
[–]michimoto 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
24M, my choice. Probably won't have much trouble getting dates if I really tried, but at this stage in my life, the focus is climbing higher in my career and setting myself up for retirement. The less distractions the better is the way I see it.
Sure being intimate is fun and all, I'm just money hungry at this stage in life cause the energy pursuing girls/giving them attention is better used for getting money and enjoying it until I'm ready to settle down. The remaining energy is extracted to its full potential to help me build a physique that I am proud of.
Its is not easy going 24 years long without having a physical connection with someone. It's damn hard. I'd be lying if I said I don't play out scenarios of me with girls. To fill the intimacy void, I make an effort to be social with literally EVERYONE. Cashiers, baristas, senior citizens, random girls, asking random bro's to spot my lifts at the gym. The feeling of using my social capabilities is so rewarding when I review my day and I always feel good knowing I made myself known to others as polite, respectful, and a well rounded individual.
Even if I didn't have a religious obligation to stay a virgin until marriage, I still would have followed my plan because I really think that a lack of being a productive member to society is something that is hindering our advancement as a civilization. If not, what's the difference between us and two stray dogs "doing it" in the middle of the street?
TLDR; do things according to your timeline and don't let society distract you from your goals in pursuit of a fun time that will be over sooner than you think.
17 , don't wanna till 25
[–]mrrooftops -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can't believe you lot fell for this.
[–]Vtastik -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not a virigin but I feel like one lmao first gf at 18, together till 20 and we had a lot of sex, took a year and a half to get laid again, and that girl was like a 4/10, since then it's been 10 months, and I feel like I won't get laid ever again unless I pay an escort or just hit on fat low self esteem chicks
I was such an idiot in high school I had like 5 girls hit on me and I rejected them cause I thought they were whores for hitting on me, now I regret it a lot
[+]Top-Championship7355 -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
29 year old male I’ve had somewhere near 40 different partners
22 almost 23, intimacy issues and too high standards for my own attractiveness I guess
Are you standards even with what you have to offer or trying to go way above?
[–]PenissButtt 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]PuchookPuchook 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
25 years… have a gf for about 4+ years long distance… different countries…
How much time have you spent with her in person?
[–]PuchookPuchook 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
30+ days or so in 4 years when we go to our hometown but live separately with our own families.
[–]RagingOakTree 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
18, in college, and it’s because the girlfriends I had didn’t last because they quickly found out about something they didn’t like about me or they cheated on me. That or the girls that liked me I didn’t like back.
[–]SpiritDetective13 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
22- Never had much success when I was younger and that developed into a fear of rejection. Which I'm starting to think is just a way to avoid validating any insecurities I have about myself
[–]Dakessian 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice try
[–]Advanced_Shopping179 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If someone could help me out with advice that’d be great:)
and guilt tripped me over her faults.
Normal, women will hamster wheel their brain until they can figure out a plausible deniability reason where it's not their fault.
Worried about being judged by girls for what exactly?
[–]Advanced_Shopping179 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Of how I approach them. You know, like not being creepy. I try not to but sometimes my anxiety just fucks things up.
Start small baby steps..
Say Hi to everyone..
Then move on to Hi how are you?
OR ask for directions..
There's nothing creepy about any of that..
Man or women?
Why say no?
[–]Tony_FlareGun 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
M23, i only tried tinder. I have no social circle to meet people, i dont cold approach because its stupid in my opinion so im stuck in this situation
i dont cold approach because its stupid in my opinion
Why's this?
[–]Tony_FlareGun 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First of all, no girl ever initiated a conversation with me, im thinking maybe nobody doesn't even find me attractive. Id like anyone initiate anything with me so at leats id know that I'm actually interesting to people. Second, its kinda uncomfortable to come to a stranger out of nowhere, force a conversation without having a clue if the girl even likes me. If i would see any reasonable sings that girl is attracted to me, id come up and talk to her, thats warm approach. But it never happened to me and i have no circumstances for it to happen, only in the public transport maybe while we are stuck in it
[–]NRTHE2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Axolite 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
17- never had a relationship or a girl like me
[–]Comradecraig 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
31 M never even had a date. I'm too afraid of being called creepy or accused of sexual harassment. I've never had a women start a conversation with me or show interest.
Five years on Tinder with no dates so I think it's basically over for me.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'm too afraid of being called creepy or accused of sexual harassment.
You need to get off of social media.. it's killing you.
You're the man, you're the one who needs to lead at every step of the way.
[–]Comradecraig 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I live in a very liberal area It's completely unacceptable to approach a women in public here. Also I don't have any Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, snapchat accounts. I don't use social media.
What country or state if in the USA?
[–]Comradecraig 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wisconsin
If daygame all over Wisconsin, like all over.. it's a great state to daygame in..
Even towns of 10-20K can be seriously amazing.
Unless you live in some super niche area, I think it's all in your head that it's "completely unacceptable to approach" in your area.
[–]Comradecraig 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Everytime I try and make small talk I get an extremely disgusted look. I don't know why I'm not that weird looking.
[–]Intelligent_Squash57 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
31 female- I prefer to meet people in person and I did not prioritize dating until I was 29. I got my heart broken by a male best friend, and then the dang pandemic hit.
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
What are the top two things holding you back?
I don't like bars or clubs and I don't drink either... which is why I do more daygame.
But I do nightgame too.. often solo.
22 lack of confidence I'm not sure what other reasons
[–]Femtouser 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
31, male-dominated major (no single female friends around)
male-dominated major (no single female friends around)
None of this matters when it comes to women though.
Online dating, daygame, nightgame.
[–]Femtouser 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Online dating provides a huge disadvantage to men, and advantage to women. I tried that, and mostly got liked by women incompatible with any attraction.
Daygame: I respect women too much to be the creep they complain about on subreddits like /r/TwoXChromosomes/ and /r/AskWomen/
Nightgame: despite typical girls at bars are not my type of people, I would go to bars, but my nerdy friends who have the same major are reluctant to go out.
But I acknowledge that everything can be worked on.
Online dating provides a huge disadvantage to men, and advantage to women. I tried that, and mostly got liked by women incompatible with any attraction. Yeah but it still works..
Yeah but it still works..
You need to stay off those subs and social media.. you worry way too much about one person out of 8,000,000,000 billion people in the world think about you.
Go out alone, no excuses.
The only person holding you back is you.
[–]I_Took-This_Name 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
22 im not good looking, so I guess if I want anything I need to put in extra efforts. High school was pretty bad, the worst part of my life so far, it destroyed my confidence completely so there was 0 chance for dating like that. I have been working on that a lot and it's much better now, but now im not around girls anymore because what I study is nearly completely male-dominated and I don't have many friends because I barely made some back in high school, so there are no girls I can meet through friends either. So far I had 0 action with girls, didn't even have a friend that was a girl lol. I'm trying to get the courage to do cold approaches, but nobody really does that in my country and it's really hard to get started. Night clubs don't work for me as I can't dance because I have a bad sense of rhythm. Online dating is off the table too, as I said I'm not good looking, and there it's an even bigger disadvantage than offline. I'm actively improving myself, though, I am not waiting around, but I don't feel like I can date someone anytime soon, because doing a cold approach is still far away (first I should just learn to start conversations with strangers in general). Thanks for asking though it feels good to think that someone cares lmao.
[–]I_Took-This_Name 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hungary
[–]MagicGnome97 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
23
just havent put any effort into it and dont know any girls through friend circles either went to an all boys school and yeah it just hasnt happened at uni
i need to sort my own life out first anyway
Sort out your life should include getting used to talking to women.
[–]MagicGnome97 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes I know, I worded it slightly wrong to exactly what I meant, hard to atm though with covid restrictions where I live making it super hard to meet people, quite literally impossible till at least like early November.
If you're not comfortable talking to strangers - check out Toastmasters - see if they're still doing online meets.
[–]Spammer27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
28 years old. I'm shy. A lot.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Do you want to fix this?
[–]Spammer27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I am trying for half a year now. I keep on failing.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
What exactly have you done to fix it?
On a scale of 1-10 how hard have you tried?
[–]Spammer27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I have been on 25 Dates with 15 women. Went to the Club twice. Texted a girl who was thinking of sleeping with me and teaching me for money, but she ghosted me last minute. I would say 7/10.
I bet this is all mindset and fear of escalating, right?
You know what you want to do, but feel frozen and just can't do it?
[–]Spammer27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yep. I had 7 Dates with one girl, she texted me to be more brave next time. But it's not happening. When she is standing in front of me, trying to kiss me, I freeze. I hugged her and left. She friendzoned me in the end. Obviously.
I think this is probably normal for most men.. I know it was for me when I first started..
I had tons and tons of opportunities like this.. that I was too much of a puss puss to make a move and nothing ended up happening..
You just have to do it.. women want you to make moves.
[–]Spammer27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. That is true. And really tough to get for me.
[–]Wakameboy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
27, I'm a virgin because social anxiety and being underweight most my life, poor self image I guess. I mostly just lurk here. Currently can't even try to date because I live with my parents, should have my own place next year though.
Don't use the no place of your own as an excuse, you can date out in public or go back to her place to have sex etc.
[–]Wakameboy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It just feels like such a massive deal breaker if my living situation comes up in conversation. It's something I'm very ashamed of because I thought I'd have my shit together at this point in my life. That and being busy with work and college are pretty much the sole reason I haven't tried dating in the past 5 years.
[–]michimoto 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There is nothing wrong with living with your parents. I'd say focus on college, work, and bettering yourself physically/mentally, and then you will have alot more fun
[–]Wakameboy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I appreciate you saying that. I actually just graduated last month so it's just a matter of finding a job that will pay me enough to move out. I do work out and have managed to gain some muscle, mental health is hard to work on though. I do have hope that things will get better.
It just feels like such a massive deal breaker if my living situation comes up in conversation.
This is you holding you back though..
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (17 children) | Copy Link
21m virgin here
I’m still a virgin because I got rejected in high school (used to be a big simp).
College hasn’t been the best for me either, I did my first two years at community college so there’s no social life there. Then covid hit and my entire junior year went online so my life was just school/work/gym.
This is my first and last college year actually at a college having a college experience. I’ve met some girls here but nothing has happened yet.
I also don’t use dating apps because they seem useless and very artificial.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Have you tried daygame on campus?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Not really no. I’m not on campus too often, only 3 days a week. I live off campus I have done night game at the bars I got like 5 different social media’s but I have nothing to text them lol.
I’m going to try though, there was this cute girl on the bus that I sat next too but I’m not a morning person and I didn’t say anything even though I should’ve.
I just remembered I did day game at my apartment complex once, got a girls social media and she never texted me back. The vibes in our interaction were great but I guess she thought I was weird or something oh well.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
You have a very short window of life when you're in college.
Do it now or you'll regret it forever.
Stop getting social media, get the phone number.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Why the phone number? Social media seems more casual, especially at the bars.
Do you suggest phone number for day game more?
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Because if you exchange IG, now you're competing with every other guy on her social media.
Unless you live a baller life or have a super high follower count or famous for some reason, it'll only hurt you.
She has dozens of guys a day liking her pics, stories, sending her DMs..
VS
On her text message, it's more personal, less competition, more serious.
Phone number 100% of the time no matter where you meet her.
Never really thought of that. I have a decent following on Twitter, but sadly I don’t think that’s used much. I’m not gonna ask a girl for her Twitter.
I’ll go for the number next time.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Any tips for day game? I did great at night game, but I get nervous when it comes to day game and just talking to some random girl on the bus or something.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
What's your experience with daygame?
How comfortable are you talking to guys / unattractive women in public?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
On a scale of 1-10 I would say a good 7. I’ve already made a bunch of friends here (men and women). I’m actually somewhat extroverted and can handle approaching people.
Like I said I managed to approach a solid 8 in my apartment complex and we had a good interaction at least I thought we did. But I got her social media and she left me on read. Do you think it’s because I didn’t ask for the number, does that really tick people the wrong way?
I saw nothing wrong with the interaction and I wasn’t creepy at all. Maybe she didn’t like me, idk.
Who knows.. it's just one person.. but always ask for the number.
You sound like your close to getting daygame mostly handled, you just need to give it a solid 30 days and just get it done.
I traveled, went out, even hired a dating coach once. What happened with the dating coach?
I traveled, went out, even hired a dating coach once.
What happened with the dating coach?
Also.. did sleeping with the prostitute help in any way?
Exemples on how to go out, speak to people, live exercise and theory... Though I also join the common consensus that it's mostly a money grab praying on people with low self-esteem. Did you stick with it after the coaching was done?
Exemples on how to go out, speak to people, live exercise and theory... Though I also join the common consensus that it's mostly a money grab praying on people with low self-esteem.
Did you stick with it after the coaching was done?
I've heard of the cuddle people.. aren't there websites for that?
[–]itzReborn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
22 here who hasn’t even put himself out there. I’ve been told I’m cute/handsome a couple times but not enough to really boost my confidence
I want to try apps but I don’t have enough good pictures one and two I wouldn’t even know how to carry a convo to eventually lead it to a date
And speaking off dates I don’t go out very much so just going out and potentially meet people is another set of anxiety
[–]friends_fan_402 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]theXDlegend 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
16 - have like 8 females friends but they are all friends that i know like 8 years rly close but only friends and too insecure to aproach strangers
So you're probably comfortable enough around girls, just need to get past your fear of approach.
[–]theXDlegend 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I don't have problem talking to girls, I just find it difficult to talk to people in general if I know nothing about them and I'd prefer having relationship outside the school and I just go to gym and play videogames so i dont meet a lot of people outside school or ppl i already don't know.
[–]thEnEGoTiAtoR18 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
21 - lacking confidence to date or put myself in situations for sex to happen and studying in a new country, having a hard time getting to know locals. I used apps and got few matches too but I get no replies :'(
lacking confidence to date or put myself in situations for sex to happen
Why lacking confidence?
[–]thEnEGoTiAtoR18 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I just think that everyone else is better looking and taller than me then why would anyone give me a shot.
There's plenty of short average guys who do well with women.
You just have to learn game and put in the effort.
Get rid of the stinking thinking.
[–]thEnEGoTiAtoR18 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I have noticed but never thought I could be that. I'm living in Sweden so people here are reserved and it's very uncommon to approach ladies except in parties so it has been kinda difficult.
Recently started gym so yes working on my mindset and body!
Yes people are more reserved in those countries, but daygame still works..
[–]thEnEGoTiAtoR18 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
By daygame you mean approaching directly at public places? Any beginners tips for that?
Right out your front door.. within walking distance if possible..
Otherwise, anywhere, the closer to your place the better, logistics are super important.
On the street, grocery store, Target, Walmart, Bed Bath and Beyond, Whole Foods etc.
Take massive action.. if you fail, who the F cares..
Do you really care if you get 10 no's and then sleep with the next girl you talk to?
Will you remember the no's or the girl that just spent the night at your place who you banged three times last night?
Regret is worse than rejection.
[–]thEnEGoTiAtoR18 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Everything you said is true and yes regretting is worse. I'm gonna give this a shot, thanks for your help!!
Not exposed.. do you live in an all male commune?
You don't ever see a single female in public when you leave your house?
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Approaching random girls is not that common here.
It's not really common anywhere in the world.
Doesn't mean it's not super effective..
The only thing that's holding you back is you.
It's normal, but that's the reality.
USA or?
[–]Aggravating_Farm_125 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I wanted to meet that special someone but now I realize that may be unrealistic.
This is definitely possible, but as a man, unless you're a 9/10 you need to do the work, you need to lead every step of the way.
[–]Aggravating_Farm_125 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree. I’ve seen model looking guys get approached like crazy. Made me think I’m ugly. I’ve been approached by women before but not like 9/10 guys. I work out daily (for 2 years now), keep hygiene in check, stopped watching porn (164 days)sober (alcohol, pills), stretch/yoga and this helps with daily stress. I frequent the forever alone subreddit but it’s like those people have given up hope. It’s sad but I won’t quit. I hope I don’t get to that point. But yeah man I learned that if you want a girl you need to initiate 90% of the time in interactions with women. If you have insecurities work on them.
Stop worrying about other guys.. there's always millions of guys who are taller, better looking, blah blah blah..
Don't worry about those things, as it'll only hurt you.
Stay off those subs, those will destroy your confidence too..
[–]PoPoChao[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unfortunately not me
[–]CodineDreams 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
21-
Haven’t really thought much about it until this past year. IMO it might have something to with me not actually being around many girls so it’s rare for me to even try to talk to one when there aren’t any around.
Honestly, I realistically only have one friend in my life and he lives out of state. So most days are spent alone or at work. I don’t have any serious issues with my appearance or any sort of serious social anxiety or anything. I just don’t find the opportunities to even talk to girls let alone something more since I’m not near them.
TBF, I don’t even really care about being a virgin, it doesn’t really effect me in my life. But the fact that I don’t have anyone in my life who stimulates love and compassion for me (other than my parents) leaves me staring at the deep depths of loneliness and boredom.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I am!! 23M. Go out all the time, ask for numbers, never ever get a date or go home with someone, for some reason or another. I seriously just don't know what I'm doing wrong and it's incredibly frustrating. And no amount of shallow advice helps lol
Here's what I would do..
Stop going for the same night pull.. or don't even think about this.. until an hour or less before closing time.
Next time go out there and try to get as many numbers as possible.
I'm talking 5 minute conversations at the most.
Also try to set up the date on the first interaction.. I'm talking exact activity, exact day, exact time.
Try to set the date for as soon as possible, next day if possible, within 48 hours.
If you get 20 numbers, invite them all straight to your place.. even if your text game sucks, you should get at least 2 to come to your place.. and if you're halfway decent at closing, that's sex with 1 or 2 of those girls.
That's how I do night game.. I go out and try to get 20-30 numbers and as many of those as exact dates (makes the contact/lead way more solid).
Say I get 20 numbers.
5 will ghost or 1-2 replies and fall off.
10 will have other excuses or won't go anywhere (at least in the first 7 days - just keep running text game, and some of these will trickle in over the next 30 days)
then the other 5, I'll usually sleep with 3-5 of those over the course of the next 7 days.
Worst case 2 girls over the next 7 days.
You can also do this with daygame.. same system.
If you do this for daygame and nightgame and add in online, that's how you can sleep with 2-5+ girls a week, every single week if you're halfway decent at game.
Here's my basic structure:
Opener - False time constraint + DHV - Exchange names + break physical touch barrier - - Small Talk / Ask her what she's up to/figure out logistics if trying to bang her that day/night - pitch the date idea - set the exact date/day/time/activity (if possible) - get the number - leave
Most of my daygame interactions are 2-3 minutes, 5 tops.
Nightgame 3-5 minutes.
Learn good game + optimize everything you can + get lots of leads (phone numbers/dates) = too many women to keep up with
[–]MattCh4n 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
31 m here, low seft esteem, very few friends. Been living abroad for a few years in different cities for work which completely destroyed my social life. I'm trying to improve, get in shape and socialize more but it's really super hard for me :(
You don't need a social life to be great with girls.. it's like the least important thing.
[–]MattCh4n 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
But then how do I get to know them ? It would be awkward for me to do cold approaches due to my lack of confidence. I would also feel creepy just going out all on my own.
I go out alone 100% of the time for daygame, and 90% for night game.
There's nothing creepy about being a confident man who goes out alone.
Meet them, set up the date, get the number, invite them straight to your house.
I don't even do public dates 95% of the time.. and if I do, it's 30 minutes where she's already agreed to come back to my place after a quick public meet.
[–]MattCh4n 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Do you have any advice on places to go to meet girls, or activities to do that you find helpful ?
Or any other advice in general ?
[–]Hr_Art 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
22M.
My last GF was manipulative and cheated on me. It was years ago but after that, between having to cram for 2 years and this, I preferred to work on myself first, in order to be happy alone. Because for me, there's no point in trying to be happy in a couple if you cannot be happy alone.
So now that I'm happy alone, I'm ready to date again. But I still need to find a worthy girl. I thought I found one but after a few dates, it didn't work out so I'm still searching. Even though I have quite a lot of success with OLD (2 dates a day or smth), I hate OLD so I'm trying to meet them with approaching IRL and uninstalled apps.
Anyway I don't have a lot of time for girls, I have a lot of projects and passions. So maybe I'll meet her in my uni or smth, wish me luck !
[–]Deep-Advice7587 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
25, I don't think dating is good for me and I definitely hate its culture nowadays.
It seemed like we had great chemistry, we were both being flirty, holding hands, etc but partway through the date she ditched me for a group of girls that she met while I went to get myself a drink and said she wanted to leave with them. Not really sure what to make of it honestly because it seemed like we had something going, but c'est la vie I guess.
Probably more bad luck than anything.. it happens to everyone in night game.
17 m, I’ve had chances with ugly desperate fat girls but after I rub one out I block them lol. In school I usually talk to the one girl I’m super interested in and don’t focus on the others. Alt of pretty girls but I choose one and have been struggling to get their interest.
23 here had some BJs before, but i was dealing with a quite few addictions including porn which caused me ED.. After some time i raised a insecurity and i was always trying to get fit and stuff.. Years went and i am still in the same boat except i am sober from Cocaine, X, molly for about 1-4 years now and straight from abusing Weed 4 months and 2 days.
I finally feel confident and i work on myself daily... Cuz if i want to have a girl or be with one i want to be the best version of myself
I've putted my bad past behind me, moved on and i am ready to put myself into the game which i have, although i've never used it before because i was a now ex junky/dealer. If someone got some extra tips for me put me into the reply i would be glad to read them up or answer you.
Cheers
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
i’m a 18 year old virgin here’s why, i have a severe penis curve called peyrones diease my dick points up and then goes all the way downward causing me to think i won’t be be able to penetrate, it’s that severe treatment is expensive and most are in effective and also surgery shrinks the dic size and it’s really expensive i’m so miserable and depressed because of this.
peyrones diease
Maybe there's a forum on Reddit or somewhere else.. or Google where you can see what others say about it when it comes to intimacy.
i’ll do some research but man i’m telling you i’m extremely depressed and miserable and ashamed and embarrassed cause of this man i don’t deserve this man
[–]TopMali 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Pretty sure females would enjoy that
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
fammmm i gotta show you an example of how my shit looks but the example is gonna be a cucumber
[–]TopMali 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Nah do me a favor and don't show me anything
Did you go to a doctor or are you self-diagnosticing on WebMD?
EDIT : I SAID DON'T SHOW ME ANYTHING YOU WEIRDO
i’m self diagnosed you dickhead it’s frustrating tf outta me
[–]TopMali 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Knock it off and go to a doctor you insecure clown, either you just have a curve in that case congrats, or you can get treatment for it to function normally
dickhead theirs no treatments my curve is severe and it’s embarrassing
[–]TopMali 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's for the doctor to say
[–]Fluffy_Risk9955 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I got proof I'm not a virgin. I have a mini me walking around with the same sense of humor.
[–]PaMiGuy007 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
22 - lack of confidence, too insecure and crippling anxiety of fear of rejection because when I tried I always ended up as a friend.
[–]darkknight95sm 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
26, I’ve always had trouble with dating.
I was home schooled most of my life, when I got to college is when it hit me like a truck how much I completely misunderstood the opposite sex and dating. I’ve had one gf, at 24, we got pretty close to sex together but never went all the way.
I’ve also been religious most of my life but just recently, during Covid, left it behind. With that, there was always this hesitation because it felt wrong but I longer have that holding me back.
[–]Servalwi 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
23 but in a relationship that's kinda in a virgin dead bedroom situation.
[–]Abhi201995 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
26, sadly. Had 2 full time relationship but still didn't
In 2 relationships but no sex.. why?
[–]Abhi201995 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First girl was Psycho, like super psycho which I found out after one month going out with her, and I told myself, no sex with her, 2nd girl was super conservative and religious, You know how they are, if you don't they are also psycho not just in a bad way lol. So just now I think my both choice of relationship were wrong, and I am glad that they got over, Will be heading with new relationship or something when my study gets over next year. HAHA Sad me :(
[–]Narcan9 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I was decent looking, introverted, definitely not popular. Had a small consistent group of friends. Never was into partying or drinking until college.
Lost my V at 14 👍.
At 7 when I started college.
14 damn lol
[–]Narcan9 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it was really young. Wasn't a regular thing until 16 though.
[–]WeCanDoThis74 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Depressedkid1998 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
23 lost virginity at 21 slept with 8 between 21 and 23
21M - I have pretty high standards and have yet to meet a woman that meets them. Most past “relationships” I’ve had were pretty one sided with me doing most of the work, so I gave up looking for someone and maybe one day I’ll organically meet someone who meets my criteria.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
How many girls are you meeting per week or month?
Are you putting yourself in situations to talk to new women?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I’m trying but not having much luck. I have social anxiety so it’s hard to just walk up to someone and talk to them, and in the handful of times that I’ve tried it I’ve gotten a “I have a boyfriend” or the actual boyfriend comes up and tells me to leave. And I’m really just trying to make a friend not ask her out right then and there. Do you have any suggestions of places to hang out that will likely have women who are okay with being approached? It’s 2021 so most women seem to be on defense mode 😅
Also, I’m working on expanding my friend group and also not having much luck so maybe I should focus on that? Social anxiety is a bitch, especially when you are extroverted.
Edit: spelling
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It’s 2021 so most women seem to be on defense mode 😅
False limiting belief, if anything you can say it's better now than ever as so few men do it, most men are too scared to talk to women in public and rely on apps..
Everywhere, the street, Walmart, Target, grocery stores, Whole Foods, gym, malls, it doesn't matter.
How many have told you they have a boyfriend? 1? 5? 20? 100?
Who cares, go talk to 20 more girls..
You don't need to have other friends or have any social circle to be great at game.
You meet a girl on the street and have a 2-3-5 mintue conversation, set up the date on the first interaction (so you don't need to do it over text), have her come straight to your place, and have sex in an hour, two at the most.
Or do the same at night, you can go out solo, or dating apps..
All of that has nothing to do with anyone else.
Just you.
Good to hear!
Any tips for starting a convo with a total stranger?
Just do it. Talk to anyone and everyone.
Just like walk up and say “hi how are you”?
Yeah, go do that to 20 people today.
Good shit, might not be a conversation but small talk is good practice
You can get this taken care of in 30 days if you want..
Or you can get it done, probably never for 99.9% of people.
Go talk to 33 people a day for 30 days, that's 1,000 people.
You're approach anxiety will mostly be gone and you'll feel comfortable talking to women, probably get a ton of numbers, and get some lays...
Even if you start off as a virgin.
Learn great game + maximize yourself + take massive action = have too many girls in your life to handle.
[–]bigblackshaq 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I've had a few DM me asking for help losing their virginity
ITT I learnt that this is a thing on Reddit...
Virginity? Yeah, it's a new phenomenon.
[–]bigblackshaq 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
omg I totally misunderstood what you said; I had thought they reached out to ask if you could help them lose their virginity, like literally
[–]tabtal 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm not a virgin, but I feel like I'm going the wrong way. Talking less to girls and struggling more with my self presentation.
Lost my virginity to my high school girlfriend and then did a FWB thing with her freshman year of college. That faded away and I haven't really gotten much since (just a few makeout sessions in my dorm, now in junior year of college). Looking to get more confident and express my skills/interests more effectively.
Now or never.
Do it now, or you'll feel you squandered a massive opportunity while you were in college to get your game right and have great experiences.
[–]hey_man_t 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
20 no kiss or anything
[–]consciousj 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why? I don’t know…
[–]MauPow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No, boned a lot in my early years, but I'm on a long dry streak and struggling with adult dating
Why are you struggling?
What are you not doing that you know you should be doing?
[–]MauPow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just don't meet interesting women in my daily life. Also been struggling with depression and low self esteem for a long time. I've become a big homebody.
[–]Reception_Queasy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
25 this year, it's a cultural thing.
[–]DrixlRey 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think you should have made a poll.
Ha I didn't think I'd get many responses, post kinda blew up unexpectedly.
As Chandler says, "Can you grow a virginity? Because I feel like I am growing one"
[–]Jes0e 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
17 - I’ve been flirted with once and that’s it. Like most have said, I have no confidence but I want to get some now before I feel like it’s too late.
[–]Funkiebastard 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Soon 22, never done anything with anyone.
Think it has something to do with not necessarily being interested enough in anyone to do anything about it and being insecure. And socially awkward/anxiety.
Every now and then I become interested in someone but it never lasts. Either find out they have a gf/ married or it just kinda fades away. Atm I do have one guy I'm interested in but the timing never fits to speak with him (he works night shift at a different department and I'm probs moving soon for uni). I have tried to initiate a convo (since he's done it with me) but I always feel like I'm bothering, ends up being strictly work related or fail to get past 'hi'
This in combination to what I can only assume to be inferiority complex. Every girl around me is tall(er), can hold a conversation, don't speak clumsy, gorgeous etc. For reference I'm in Sweden, I'm half Swedish and due to being half I feel like I stick out in a bad way.
I'm hoping this will change once I move, but given no one has ever shown interest in me my self-esteem isn't quite high even tho I like myself as I am
[–]RandomGuy2654 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am 19 and still a virgin.
I started developing very late and got into puberty when I 15/16. At that point I still saw myself as a kid and I think that was the image I was portraying to people around me. Up until this year I was also extremely paranoid with the whole #metoo movement and I was really scared of being perceived as a creep when making the first move.
This year I had my first real kiss and since then I have maybe made out with 10 other girls. All this happened after I read some books and now I feel very confident in myself and very socially secure which means that I have let a few opportunities slide. In a typical night out I feel awkward leaving my friend group to spend time with a girl. I think this is based on my past were I was mildly traumatized from some extreme teasing from my then friends. I think I’m still deep down afraid of other people’s perception of me. I think this is why I’ve kissed quite a few girls but never gone all the way. I am also a little insecure about being a virgin at 19 so I am a little afraid of disappointing people in the bedroom. Living at home is another excuse that I tell myself mentally, I think this is connected with my previous “trauma” because I’d prefer if nobody knew about my “relationships” until I’m ready to tell people. I feel like it’s hard to hide being sexually active if you live at home.
I'm 19, I've had a phew chances but I wanted to wait for a special girl (-_-) I was dumb if I could get back I would without thinking to take care of this as fast as I could, it's a small problem in the back of my mind that I'm still a virgin.
nigga it’s a cucumber example of it
[–]WhyStateTheObvious 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
26F, I don’t do hookup culture and these apps seem like a waste of time and the guys that pursue me for the most part I’m not interested in and so the cycle continues. I’m not mad at it just waiting to someone I find attractive and have feelings for to share that part of myself with and see where that goes.
[–]TheSunshineMan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Are you trying to find guys out of your league?
[–]WhyStateTheObvious 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Nope. Because the guys I’m interested in just want to have sex w me and the guys who want to date me, I’m not really into them.
Usually that means, you're trying to date outside of your league.
Because the guys you really want, don't think you're good enough for a relationship, just to bang.
[–]WhyStateTheObvious 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Interesting take.
Many 9/10 Chads will bang plenty of 5/10s..
But he won't date them.. and probably won't be seen out in public with them.
[–]WhyStateTheObvious 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
For a sunshine man, you surely know how to rain on people’s parades. Luckily my ex was attractive and tall and still pursued me before I broke up with him. And here I was giving you props earlier. I think I’ll take that back now.
I always call it how it is.
Of course there's exceptions to every rule.
[–]WhyStateTheObvious 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’d be interested in hearing about your background. I’m thinking you’re being doing this because you’re successfully married or in a relationship and want to share your wisdom w others?
No not married, no interest.
Just a curious question.
My background?
I was basically a virgin until 30 years old.. said F it, made the decision to learn game, and have now slept with 1,000+ women.
If you had a boyfriend why didn't you have sex with him? Just curious.
[–]WhyStateTheObvious 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, LDR. Also, I will say I have this bad habit of pulling away when things get too serious. A leave them b4 they hurt you. I’m still doing my best to work on that.
Stop watching porn.
Send as few texts as possible. 3-5 texts - ask for the date.
Tell all the girls to come straight to your place.
Less chance to mess things up.
Go to the girls house, or public sex.
[–]Interesting-Look-873 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
18 come from an Indian household where sex is frowned upon plus I’ve been told all my life how bad sex is and u should only do it when u r married.
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[–]Vast-Exchange3353 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I browse this sub and I'm a virgin. 25. I make moves n shit but it has never gotten me anywhere. Usually get rejected. I have had a couple of 16-17 year olds throw themselves at me when I was 21-23 when was a lifeguard manager, but for obvious reasons I was not down for that action. I'm not charming enough for chicks my own age at this point and looking to improve.
[–]Left_Bed_9379 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I’m not a virgin but at the same time never had a girlfriend. I’m 31, average looking but lacking social skills (I believe that not having a father figure and English being my second language didn’t help much). I dated a lot of girls in the USA, but they never felt that connection they speak so much of. On a positive note I now deal with rejections much faster.
but they never felt that connection they speak so much of.
This is going to be because you're not showing yourself as a strong masculine man who knows how to flirt and sexually escalate.
You can learn all this though.
Put in the work.
[–]Left_Bed_9379 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hmm maybe, I do tend to do body contact (hugs, arm around her shoulders) but something else is missing…
Strong sexual eye contact like you want to fuck them.
Just be a man with no filter.
Say what you're thinking, do what you want.
You wanna kiss her, kiss her, you wanna fuck her, throw her on the bed, rip her clothes off and fuck her.
[–]lilpapayagirl 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
19 - ive hu with a few guys ; but no sex. I know i deserve better then the guys that have wanted to fuck me so far.
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[–]catnipempire 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the saddest comment section
[–]Exciting-Necessary-5 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
27M virgin here. Was originally wanting to wait until marriage for a other virgin. I'm thinking I'm past that now since women my age aren't virgins. At this point, I'm starting to think losing it is best. A man's virginity has no value to society.
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