The delusion and ignorance of red/black pillers who compare women role in the gender hierarchy to the capitalist class

I've noticed an oddly common comparison (especially in these spaces) between women and the capitalist upper class, and men to the working class, that some RP/BP guys love to spout. Its not just dumb – it's insultingly tone deaf to both the struggle of women and the struggle of the working class. Let me break it down.

First off, let’s talk about the basics of capitalism and the working class: Capitalism is a system where the wealthy elite (the "capitalist class") exploit the labor of the working class in order to accumulate wealth. The working class creates value through their labor, while the capitalists reap the benefits of that labor without putting in the same work, it's a bit simplistic but it's the gist of it, It's exploitation of the poor. Now, to compare women to the wealthy capitalists and men to the exploited workers is utterly idiotic because it fundamentally misunderstands how capitalism operates.

Women’s reproductive ability is not the same as the accumulation of wealth by capitalists. What is being missed here, crucially, is that women’s role in reproduction is a biological fact. It’s innate to our very being just like our eyes, liver or DNA in general. It’s not the result of some elite class accumulating power over time or exploiting anyone. Women do not "hoard" sex and reproduction as capitalists hoard wealth. Men do not work hard to create wombs and vaginas that the women later steal and profit off. Our bodies are innately ours to do as we please with them so as long as it doesn't affect other's bodies. The idea that women are "the capitalists” of reproduction goes against the fact that sex and consequently reproduction is a fundamental biological process that predates humans by millions of years, not a social structure designed to extract value from men to exclusively benefit women.

In fact it's the opposite : women have historically been subordinated in ways that mirror the exploitation of the working class under capitalism. The analogy that portrays women as the capitalist class and men as the working class completely disregards the profound and historical oppression of women, which is deeply intertwined with class struggle itself.

Marx and Engels themselves attest to this. Engels, in The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State, argued that the family structure as we know it today—especially the semi-monogamous (by this I mean where non-monogamy by women is harshly punished but by men is excused) expected of , patriarchal family—emerged alongside the development of private property. The introduction of private property marked a shift in social organization where the inheritance of wealth became central. This led to the need to control women's sexuality and reproduction in order to pass property and status down the male line—essentially, women became the tools of inheritance. we were dehumanized and subjugated by the rise of private property even more than ever before, men needed to ensure that their wealth would be passed down through the patriline, leading to the dehumanization of women. Women's labor, particularly in childbearing and domestic work, but also helping in the fields and with the animals, became instrumental in maintaining the wealth and power of men. This is an oppression that mirrors the way workers’ labor is exploited to maintain the wealth of the capitalist class. The idea of women being tied to the male inheritance line further underscores how women’s roles in reproduction were not about holding power, but about maintaining the existing structure of private property. Women were forced into positions where their value was tied directly to their ability to bear children, often for the sole purpose of producing heirs to inherit property, and were excluded from direct access to the wealth created by men. This system didn’t elevate women; it locked them into positions of dependency and submission, reducing them to mere incubators, their labor, ideas and ideals and even their very name and bloodline being rendered irrelevant. Male dominance over women and was structured in such a way that women’s labor was never acknowledged as contributing to the wealth of the family in the same way that the working class people, men or women, in a capitalist society work tirelessly to generate wealth, but are excluded from enjoying the benefits of that wealth. Women, not men, are the working class of gender. No matter how much self victimizing misogynists wished it weren't true