QuestionForBP: Where is this "hate speech" on r/TheRedPill?

theambivalentrooster · 2017-09-20T15:20:51+00:00

I don't think TRP is hate speech like 'Women are nothing more than sex slaves and are incredibly stupid and should do nothing but serve their husband or be herded into rape camps to be 'rededucated'.

It's just general disdain, disrespect, misunderstanding, and othering.

edit: TRP is not hate speech. It's this.

TheChemist158 · 2017-09-20T18:21:24+00:00

Hate speech is speech that insults, promotes discrimination or hostility, or even violence towards a certain group of people. TRP certainly insults women, saying that they lack a moral code, empathy, loyality, the ability to be rational. It also calls for discrimination, saying that because women have these traits they shouldn't be trusted.

shoup88 · 2017-09-20T15:34:13+00:00

In this first page link there are comments about how gay women - how they don't exist, how every lesbian loves the D, and how they get addicted to sucking cock.

Another comment says "Im psychology student where most of the people in class are girls but they are fucking idiot. Not worth even talking with them". (I'm sure the irony of his grammatical mistakes are lost on him).

There are a lot of comments that could be interpreted as hate speech. Stupid fucking gold-digging cunt! It's a damn shame domestic violence is frowned upon.

Also see regular use of terms like landwhales, bitches, cunts, sluts, holes, cucks, and casual racism.

We get desensitized in this sub. While I don't think this meets the legal definition of hate speech in USA or Canada, it does in countries like Denmark or France. And using a broad, non-legal use of the word, I could see a case being made that TRP utilizes hate speech.

Maikowski2 · 2017-09-20T16:41:45+00:00

No such thing as hate speech. But TRP is highly misogynistic sub. Not that it disprove some of their theories. I can agree with some.

ANTIFA_SARKEESIAN · 2017-09-20T19:16:04+00:00

It's not legally hate speech but hateful speech against women is literally everywhere on TRP. This is like asking "where is the 'hate speech' on stormfront forums?

Like, where ISN'T there hate speech on TRP, jesus

JustStatedTheObvious · 2017-09-20T14:57:02+00:00

So, we grading TRP on a curve now?

Looks like hate to me, but I can see why some people might be too numb to recognize it anymore.

BiggerDthanYou · 2017-09-20T15:51:42+00:00

It's hard to say where being a sexist edgelord ends and hate speech begins.

Is this hate speech or is this merely their idea of a joke?

Or maybe because it seems as if they actively endorse mistreatment of women (and hamstering any personal responsibility away by telling themselves that this is exactly what women want). Like endorsed contributers advocating cumming on her face while she is sleeping and filming it because she will absolutely cheat on him in the future, all the obsession with women getting off on getting treated like a child or even being disrespected or that women want to be raped.

Or maybe it's because they love to claim that all women are irrational, unreasonable, boring, etc and then come up with evolutionary explanations which are often based on looking at womens scientific achievements in the last couple of centuries (while claiming that patriarchy was never a thing at all and probably also that the slaves didn't have it so bad because they were taken care off and well fed).

Or maybe it's because they claim that women's suffrage was the biggest shit test in history and that those histerical children should have never been given voting rights.

Or maybe it's also all their projection, conspiracy theories and anger.

Or maybe it's just because it's impossible to read a single TRP post without finding at least a little bit of each those. It's like someone took a KKK board and exchanged blacks with women. And "they literally are monkeys" with "they literally are children" and "blacks want to work as slaves due to evolution" with "women want to be mistreated or raped due to evolution"

PostNationalism · 2017-09-20T18:16:52+00:00

It's full of 'hate speech', like most of reddit.

Temperfuelmma · 2017-09-20T19:16:23+00:00

TRP is a bunch of complete morons that think they're 'woke' because for the first time in their pathetic lives they begin to see women as the imperfect humans that they are. It has a very small amount of 'gurus' that are trying to guide this clusterfuck and basically the whole sub is a disaster to an outsider but the main people are trying their best to guide a bunch of youngsters and basically their end goal is not #killallwomen or to put all women in chains. At the end of the day all they're trying to do is get laid and the married guys are just trying to be happy again. So although I will admit the path they choose to go through can be quite frankly terrifying their end goals are GOOD. So I don't think they are a hate group or whatever but I can imagine a person seeing something there without any other knowledge about that sub or any context and mistaking it as hate speech or hate group or whatever buzz word that's trending right now.

VermiciousKnidzz · 2017-09-20T15:50:06+00:00

shit like "single mothers are the scum of the earth" and "women are inferior to men" is hate speech. not that that reflects the views of every red piller, but those are often echoed sentiments.

hate speech is generally anything that attacks another person for their race, gender, orientation, identity, etc

Pope_Lucious · 2017-09-20T19:11:20+00:00

Hate Speech doesn't exist

AutoModerator · 2017-09-20T14:43:15+00:00

Attention!

You can post off topic/jokes/puns as a comment to this Automoderator message.
For "CMV" and "Question for X" Threads: Parent comments that aren't from the target group will be removed, along with their child replies.
If you want to agree with OP instead of challenging their view or if the question is not targeted at you, post it as an answer to this comment.
OP you can choose your own flair according to these guidelines., just press Flair under your post!

Thanks for your cooperation and enjoy the discussion!

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

GoldPilot · 2017-09-20T21:12:07+00:00

As I understand it, hate speech is "speech which attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, sexual orientation, disability, or gender".

Assuming that's the prerequisite, then a lot of the content posted on TRP qualifies, even if the "true believers" want to believe that TRP isn't inherently misogynistic.

They also unironically use the word "faggot" a lot. While it isn't necessarily hate speech since those people subscribe to the South Park model of the word's use, it's certainly sophomoric, homophobic, and grating.

NewAcctEveryDamnDay · 2017-09-20T22:46:18+00:00

There is none. You may find posters who (rightly) display righteous anger. But the sidebar and core is not "hate speech". Pointing out the games women run on men is not "hate speech".

newName543456 · 2017-09-21T09:38:54+00:00

Anything you disagree with can be labelled hate speech.

It is a meaningless label and I openly mock it, especially since plenty of individuals using it left and right are not exactly the most loving people around themselves...

Karakal456 · 2017-09-21T23:54:07+00:00

The “core” trp beliefs are not hating on women at all, far from it. They stress that hating women is a waste of time and not constructive.

I will concede that there exists comments and post that are: Dumb. Sexist. Angry. Frustrated. Immature.

Which is to be expected coming from men who feel “cheated/lied to” about how women actually are vs how they thought they were.

Not excusing it, but I can certainly understand it.

Title	QuestionForBP: Where is this "hate speech" on r/TheRedPill?
Author	Electra_Cute
Upvotes	11
Comments	220
Date	September 20, 2017 2:43 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/71biqz/questionforbp_where_is_this_hate_speech_on/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/questionforbp-where-is-this-hate-speech-on.266001 https://theredarchive.com/post/266001

Comments