This is above mens rights and more along the lines of freedom of speech/censorship. This could be a very slippery slope for the freedoms that citizens of France have.
After my understanding of all things TRP, I can't decide if it's the dumbest or the smartest law there is.
Either it's great to get rid of all of the non-alphas out of the french genepool. Or it's stupid when betas check out of the ambitious work, the tax-paying for their children.
If you knew how genetics really work you'd know women actually fail to spot good genes based on first impressions.
You should try to talk to smart women sometimes. They spot good genes in quality men. Most of them are married to quality men. Most of them are raising boys and girls with good genes.
Women don't even try to spot good genes. They look only for the guys who stick around. Well, the night after. Girls care about his character and what his name, the night after.
They have that already. We call it socialism. It was implied.
As a French, I would like to point that you are not sent (yet) to HR for holding a door or things like that.
The worst part is than pro EU, open borders proponents like Macron only got a close victory at last presidential election.
But the damage may have already been done. Head of DGSI (french counter espionnage and interior security) thought civil war was only matter of time. This possible Civil War would be between muslims and alt-right supporters. Actually, this seems improbable or extremely remote to french people. But the 2005 riots may prove his points.
Most normal people are not anti-immigration. This is a straw man leftists use just like "everyone is a Nazi." They try to use social shaming to force compliance.
But what we are talking about is systemic population replacement of native peoples. This is genocide, pure and simple.
I wish the best for Europe but I fear the damage is already too late. They have let in a problem with exponential growth rates.
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As a fellow French, I’m so glad I don’t live there anymore... ce bordel.
This is not a men's right issue, it's an immigration issue. Women can barely walk around without being hounded by refugees. It's become a third world country and they can't address the problem because it's insensitive to the multiculturalism and subsequent destabilization of western culture within France.
You take a coyote out of the wild and put it in your house and it pisses on your rugs and bites your children, then you have to keep it in a cage or kick it out. Macron approach: keep your children in a cage until they get tired of it and move out while making excuses for the coyote
Are they doing this because of all the Paki rape gangs raping hundreds of thousands of young girls all over Europe in that huge slave sex traffic circle shit.... or Muslims throwing acid at women?
Or is this literal feminist Nazis taking over at this point. I'm confused
They are doing this because socialists always need a new way to spend someone else's money, and giving the government the power to collect money from men who were reported to have spoken to a woman is a way they can actually do that in 2017.
France's shit is cucked up. Has been for a long time.
Just like with child support and alimony and their ban on paternity testing, the point of these laws is to target the men who have the ability to pay.
This is the government being greedy and opportunistic and looking for a way to take advantage of 2017's political climate to get some positive PR and extra $. They have no interest in actually protecting French women from being raped by migrant populations.
Europe is still largely closeted Monarchists. This is why the US has a hard time relating. Most of them expect some sort of government body to take care of them. Whether that body is killing millions creating collectives or sending tanks to Moscow is a personal choice. It's the overall attitude that always ends the same way.
Perhaps they are, but only after they are finished with the whole "cultural exchange".
Btw Macron is gerontophiliac, but more importantly conmplete idiot. He is trying to earn PR points on this and other such cases like for example when he called Putin to stop the oppression of gays in Chechnya. If he only was trying to solve his own's country deep economical and social problems instead...
I'm not against what you are saying, I'm not in favour of what you are saying, I'm not taking any stance, I would just like to have some proof for your claims.
Muzzies have got a special license from Admiral Allah Hu Achbar to rape young girls and boys. They got it as a result of the incessant activism of Raper-in-Chief Mo (May He Rape In Peace).
Please quit hating on Muzzies. Please convince non Muzzie pretty women and kids to stop hating in Muzzies and embrace them.
Ironicaly the UAE is the most TRP. Women are treated that way there because they recognize women are emotional creatures that cannot be trusted to make rational decisions in the household. Women also can't be the leader of a country because of their emotional nature.
You reminded me of Hegel when he compares women to plant and men to animals. Neither is good nor bad rather than just a way of life like yin and yang. He also states that "when women become leaders, the nation are in jeopardy. They can be good but no excellent". It's sad for me to see a masculine culture in Germany has been dead and now the fuckwits feminists are taking over the place. But at least Russia still keeps their masculinity and Trump has been voted so there's that.
Yeah lotta native french over there cat calling, definately has nothing to do with the high influx of african and middle eastern immigrants from countries where women have no rights.
Just wait until they start to feel targeted by law enforcement and new laws such as these and decide to rebel. Going to be like Bastille all over again.
Honestly would be kinda funny and just desserts if the Muslims started to rebel in Europe. Don't think Europe will have the balls to do anything before it's way too late and it's kinda already too late
As a Brit, it's a case of 'different worlds'. There's the internet and there is the real world. It's been over 15 years since a women has identified herself as a feminist to me without someone else bringing up the subject. Sure they can argue feminism if somebody else starts it but otherwise they (and the rest of us) just get on with living life.
It's a bit like living in Stalinist Russia. Some shit you don't talk about and life goes on regardless.
Everybody associated with the Daily mail, from the owners from the editors is right wing. It's stance on nearly every political issue is right wing. It is a staunch supporter of the conservative party. It supported the Nazi party. In fact it is widely regarded as the furthest right of any newspaper in the bloody country. Is this subreddit supposed to be satire?
I'm french and I'm fuckin disgusted this man won the election, 3 years earlier nobody knew who he was and millions of french people are persuaded the election was corrupted the way the medias praised him while they attacked all the other big candidates for months before the election, and the only reason he won was not because he had such a wonderful charisma, political project or what but because people did not want to vote for her opponent, Marine Le Pen, considered a fascist, neo-nazi and so on by the medias, after only 4 months he's already the most hated president since 1958 ! Wish me good luck with that prick I'll have to bear til 2022
J'en peux plus de la France (et l'Europe en général)... Je pensais que c'était pourri avec Sarko, ensuite c'était pire avec Hollande, mais là c'est le pompon...
Ah tiens je pensais pas croiser un français ici ! Là je fais tout pour gratter un visa pour un pays anglophone et d'ailleurs c'est pour ça que je traine sur Reddit pour améliorer mon anglais ( USA, Canada ou Australie) car je vais sur mes 25 ans et je refuse de passer ma vie d'adulte dans un pays et un continent aussi claqués, je suis jeune mais je me rappelle de 2007 comme si c'était un monde complètement différent avant Sarkozy, la crise et le traité européen, et plus ça va et plus ça devient invivable !
J'ai 37 balais... Et franchement je me vois mal refaire ma vie bien que tout semble m'y pousser...
J'ai vécu aux USA (en fait j'y ai fait mes études) ne t'attends pas à des miracles pour ce qui est des femmes; ceci dit elles sont moins "policées" qu'en France, mine de rien.
Je ne sais pas, la mentalité française... Je la trouve finalement moins "ouverte" que dans les pays anglo-saxons. Je suis d'un naturel artistique bien que finalement aussi un bon geek de première; aux USA ou en Angleterre on te regarde moins de travers si tu t'habille un peu "bizarrement" ou alors que tu expliques que tes centres d'intérêt sont: la compo musicale, la philosophie et les algorithmes de compression audio/vidéo... En France j'ai l'impression de devoir dire que mes centres intérêt sont: le foot, le foot, les apéros entre "amis", et le boulot.
J'ai connu la France et de manière générale la vie avant tout le bordel mélodramatique du politiquement correct, des réseaux « sociaux » et tout se passait finalement pas si mal que ça. Les relations hommes-femmes étaient beaucoup plus simples et satisfaisantes sans avoir à gérer les délires du féminisme "third wave". En même temps peut être je me fais vieux...
37 ans c'est pas vieux ! Et si je vais aux US c'est pas pour les gonzesses mais pour moi quoi, le boulot, le lifestyle, etc...! Côté filles j'ai commencé à m'intéresser à la séduction en 2006 donc j'étais vraiment jeune et du coup j'ai vite appris à pratiquer et à maîtriser le truc et à creuser mon trou avec les filles, mais depuis près d'un an que je fréquente Reddit et trp je me rends compte que là aussi comme partout les américains sont vraiment loin devant nous question drague ; globalement même s'il y a une bien pensance en France avec suffisamment de confiance en soi tu peux te faire accepter à peu près partout sauf chez les gens vraiment cons même si t'as des délires un peu "edgy", juste après les présidentielles jme rappelle avoir dit à un groupe de gens en soirée que j'avais voté Le Pen aux deux tours ( ce qui était vrai, mais plus par déconnade que par adhésion car je savais qu'elle passerait pas de toute façon) et globalement si tu te défiles pas ils s'en foutent autant que toi et c'est même une manière d'attirer l'attention sur toi aussi bien de la part des mecs que des meufs. Quoiqu'il en soit t'as raison sur le fait que les choses sont allées beaucoup trop vite ces dernières années, on est saturés par les réseaux sociaux et les mouvements d'extrême gauche en lien avec le féminisme dégénéré et autres anti-fascistes, je me dis donc que l'herbe est forcément plus verte quelque part ailleurs
Niveau drague je m'y suis pris très tard, après la rupture avec mon ex... On va dire à 34 ans... Sinon avant ça j'étais trop pris dans mes centres d'interets d'"autiste" comme l'electronique, le code etc...
Merde sérieux ?! Vu que la France c'est à peine 1% du traffic du site et que TRP c'est pas un gros subreddit je me prenais limite pour Christophe Colomb hahaha
Lol, en Australie, il vienne de bannir les hommes d'entrer dans l'armèe, et le Canada a son propre Macron avec Justin Trudeau, un autre jeune et dynamique.
C'est pourri en France, mais pas si.mieux que ca dans les pays anglophones. Y'a qu'a voir ce thread, la plupart des comms sont des gros stereotypes et les même "cheese eating surrender monkey jokes".
Il n'existe aucun paradis terrestre évidemment mais des villes valent clairement le détour de par le niveau de vie global qu'elles offrent, je pense notamment à Vancouver, Sidney ou Denver qui sont réputées pour leur confort, tandis qu'en France c'est mort de chez mort, quelques villes comme Nantes tirent leur épingle du jeu mais autrement circulez, il n'y a rien à voir
Actually, it could have been worse. That man is a lie. But he got most of the globalists into his ranks. So we could put them all in the trash where they belong next time.
It is sad, that he got elected. But you need strong popular support in order to get rid of the globalists.
Think of it, a sovereign France which defend its people interests. It would be one the worst nightmare for the globalists in Washington and in the EU. And they would do anything to destroy it.
Yup, and one day those things will happen, when you think of how things go as time goes by you see a sort of awakening within the masses, it's slow but it's steady at the same time : in France, from 1958 to 1981, the Republicans governed exclusively like it was a dictatorship, then from 1981 to 2017 the Republicans and the Socialists governed alternatively, and eventually during the 2017 campaign for the first time in 60 years these 2 political parties have been eliminated in the 1st round so the final round would oppose the far right and Macron (not affiliated to any political party), so when people will have enough of him in 2022 they will vote more wisely this time
Sky high taxes, low incomes, shitty work environments (very top down management that acts like they do you a favor by employing you for low pay), flooded with impoverished low IQ unskilled migrants. This is merely a last measure to make a shitty place even shittier.
In Europe there is literally no place to go to. Every place with a decent economy is migrant infested (as they all go where the best gibmedats are) and anti straight white male to the max.
The wolf whistling is probably really fucking annoying to be fair.
I live in San Francisco and have NO problem with gay men but some just won't take the fucking hint.
I used to work out of a coffee shop and a guy kept coming over to me constantly trying to talk me up and hit on me. I literally told him "I have work to do and I'm not gay" ... and he just would ignore me.
I just had to abandon working there.
I imagine attractive women have the same problem and harassment like this is not cool.
Because a lot of gay guys have their mindset similar to women. I can learn from you guys and i enjoy the company of male buddies (for friendship, not taking advantage haha) I already mentioned somewhere that if u look into any culture, there's a similarity between the way of life between the gay guys and their female counterparts. Same as Western women - western gay, Asian women - Asian gay etc
So are we going to ban all the things which are "annoying" to some people now? If that was a petite red head with a sweet face, big titties and a small ass, you maybe wouldn't have been annoyed, would you?
Also pretending that there is some kind epidemic, where women can't walk 10ft. without getting harrassed is just fucking bullshit.
You think it's a hot, charming guy that hits em up more often than not, or what I said?
And yes, I base it on my experience as just a guy walking through the streets, I'd imagine it's worse for a girl. 99% of idiots who just randomly shout or say shit to me look like losers.
Gay man here and can confirm. We give up if the guy refuses and tells us he's straight. Prob the guy keeping hitting at you has some sorts of his personal issues.
Lol. Just let you know that I'm gsy, can look a bit effiminated since I'm vain but inside, my mind and way of thinking are masculine than lots of straight guys who are pussy as f. 😂
May we ask you, out of sheer curiosity, what kind of job you hold, or at least if it is a quintessentially masculine job (coal miner, bricklayer, trash collector, etc), or something softer, like office work, interior design, art critic, etc?
Where in SF? I've worked here for about 8 years and lived here my whole life - my job takes me across all social circles from the politicians at City Hall to the slums of Hunter's Point. I've rarely seen people aggressively hitting on others in public outside of the nightlife at bars and clubs (and even then its rather tame compared to other big cities). I can count the number of times Ive seen "wolf whistling" on my hand during the day (literally twice).
I don't know where you're seeing this.
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Are you serious? I lived in the gayest neighborhood in the world for much of my life and usually gay men know when you are straight.
I'm a straight guy and I've been hit on by gays. It's really not that bad, you just tell them no. They usually persist and then I just laugh at them.
I understand it's worse for pretty girls, but it's just part of life. If you're a girl you get hit on and aren't taken seriously. If you're a guy you have to deal with rejection and aren't given any sympathy. And if our politicians get to feeling macho then you might have to go die in a ditch. On the whole women are getting off easy.
The other complicating factor is that for most guys you can't get laid without being proactive, bordering on pushy. How many stories have we heard where an old couple is interviewed and the girl says, "he kept asking me out, I didn't like him at first but he started to grow on me.". Translation: I said no to everyone but Chad, but this guy had balls and that turned me on.
How is it the government's job to regulate that? Also step up and tell them to fuck off. Most women now have no problem telling you off if you check them out.
R u retarded ? He meant that the gay dude would dismiss his rejection and ignore it as if it never happened, our man was telling him to fuck off and wanted nothing to do with him
Who knew that a Rothschild banker would push the Globalist agenda? Gotta keep them white goys weak and docile during the Muslim takeover. Laws only apply to Europeans. Muslims are free to continue to rape and pillage because that is their culture.
There won't be a muslim takeover in France. Civil War is much more likely. Particulary, if non globalists won the next election. Our extreme right allied with some non globalists did a historical score. It just sad that they are racists.
Globalists seem to loose popular support quite fast. Particularly among the younger electorate. Next election we may have a Frexit.
And fortunately, globalists will likely be defeated by China and Russia.
Well shit. What's a man supposed to do? Just stand passively and wait for a woman to come and rip his clothes off? Because at this point that seems to be the only way a man can avoid being accused of harassment or rape.
No matter what you do, or don't do, you can be "accused" of it, which carries stigma, cost, and reputation destruction equivalent to being convicted.
And even if she pleads for sex in front of a notary, with her hand on the Bible, they can argue that the consent was retroactively withdrawn, so it's still rape.
A girl opened me on the subway which happens about once a year. A few minutes in the interaction she realized she didn't like me so she yelled she was being harrassed even though she was the one to open the conversation. Paris is fucked. And yeah I got arrested.
Martha Jephcott, who has trained Nottinghamshire police officers on how to deal with misogyny as a hate crime, said: "Recognising misogyny as a hate crime is important because it acknowledges the world in which women live and the everyday nature of these sorts of incidents."
Fifteen police forces will attend a conference in Nottingham on Wednesday, looking at the possibility of adopting similar schemes, which they hope will increase the reporting of harassment.
Ms Jephcott said: "I want forces across the country to adopt this. I think it's a matter of equality.
MISOGYNY will now be considered a hate crime by North Yorkshire Police.
In July last year, Nottinghamshire Police became the first force to classify unwanted sexual or verbal advances towards women, including catcalling and wolf whistling, as hate crimes, in a move to tackle sexist abuse.
The crime will be defined as any criminal offence perceived by a female victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice based on her gender.
HER. The other day a drunk guy followed a woman down the street, when she ignored him he put his hand on her shoulder (not a good idea), so she called the police. He got 3 years.
Sorry to ask, but is it the police that makes laws in the UK? How do you know what is and is not lawful? In the US, for ex, State of Washington, the State has a set of laws called RCW, passed by the legialature and signed by the Governor, and the laws must be in harmony with the state's constitution. The police can kill you, but theoretically, they just enforce the law, not write it.
Do you even know how old is that little shit's wife? 64 fucking years old! Just imagine yourself stuck with that super dry jerky vagina, just imagine how that hole looksdontgoogd64yovagina ! He's watching helplessly as his life slips away, he's mad an has presidential powers. In his mind, if he can't get fresh pussy then no one else should.
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This is hilarious because soon the muslims will take over France anyway.
exactly I think it's a double-edge strategy. it looks like a cause to deport illegals while also cucking masculinity. it makes sense to import immagrants, allow them to run rampant, and then remove rights from everyone because one group was acting up.
"could mean outlawing wolf whistles", classic daily mail spin, shit paper with zero credibility. Calm down, it's anti-harassment, neither wolf whistling nor asking for numbers will become 'illegal'.
He is just jealous he was only able to snag an old hag.
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It's outer-limits plot worthy.
A ruler who is blind puts out the eyes of all his subjects, because he himself cannot see. There is some timeless poetry here.
Aesop's fable: The Lion in Love: A Lion fell in love with a beautiful maiden and proposed marriage. The maiden’s parents did not know what to say. They did not want to give their daughter to the Lion, yet they did not wish to enrage the King of Beasts. At last the father said: “We feel highly honored by your Majesty’s proposal, but our daughter is a tender young girl, and we fear that in the heat of love you might possibly do her injury. Might I venture to suggest that your Majesty should have your claws removed, and your teeth extracted; then we would consider your proposal again.” The Lion was so much in love that he had his claws trimmed and his big teeth taken out. But, when he again came to the parents of the young girl they simply laughed at him.
... doesn't he have more important things to do, such as turn the economy around, address racial divides, keep the EU from collapsing, removing red tape from France's infamous bureaucracy, etc?
Yeah, it's not going to happen. This is just some virtue signaling from a feminist minister of Macron.
Both the police AND feminists groups said that it's not possible to enforce such laws. Belgium passed something similar years ago and so far only three complaints have been filed with no follow up.
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It's funny because Frenchmen are too cucked to do this shit and Muslims are too alpha to follow the cuck's laws anyway.
This is what happens when men FAIL to assert themselves. The general loss of frame of men on a macro-scale in western society, will lead towards a bottomless pit of concessions that will never satisfy the menopausal harpies, and vapid dykey cat-ladies that have waaay too much power in media, academia and politics. They want infinite sacrifice from men, and their eternal humiliation - that's what awaits you for being a spineless beta. If men in general had game, and weren't raised with the equality bullshit by overbearing feminist parents (usually defeated dad), all of this nonsense would stop.
So I'll have to ask her permission to ask her for her telephone number?
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The globalists hands down installed that fucker. It's a lot easier to manipulate elections in European countries than it is the US. Le Pen had much more support than the media reported.
Harassing and following women around like a creep isn't okay. There's ways to compliment or chat up a woman without harassing them or being a total creep.. In all my time of doing pickup/meeting women, I've never acted like some fucking loser who gropes women or says creepy shit to them in public, nor have I felt any desire or need to in order to build attraction.
The difference between being labelled a creep or otherwise is based purely on your SMV.
I'd love to read a field report of someone that would make a good example of what is a TRP man demonstrating how much they could get away with on the creep-o-meter (stalking and obsessive behaviors).
I know that there are some things I wouldn't get away with, my SMV is not that high, but there have been plenty of other things (not relating to sex) I have been getting away with purely by adopting things in the sidebar.
Tagging /u/redpillschool to see if any of the endorsed posters would be interested in fleshing out my post with something along those lines?
The popularity of Edward Whatshisface in the Twilight series in the modern culture is strong evidence. He's an abusive simpering beta creep but he's 'hawwwt' so it's okay.
At this point, the inevitable descent into sharia law is starting look merciful for the French. I personally can't wait to purple-haired feminazi hambeasts beaten publically by the virtue police when that happens.
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France new slogan for future generations of men: Je suis pussy
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Just tell them you're muslim and you can get away with anything.
Man, my girlfriend/friends will not go out alone a SINGLE day without being catcalled or simply called a slut for ignoring the catcalls.
Not. a. single. day.
This is something that struck me, coming from a country I thought progressive, tolerant, multicultural, etc etc etc.
I don't know how will this be enforced tho. Most women here I know just shrug street harrassment off and go about their day without making a big fuss about it. It also doesn't happen when they are with males.
As a dude living here, I can confidently say this is not a suppression tool. Sleazy fuckers need to be stopped somehow.
10 years ago, you would have been able to witness intergenders interactions in every day life settings. Now men are too afraid. I was talking to a friend of mine whom I did street pick up with 10 years ago and he told me he stopped hitting on girls on the streets because 9 times out of ten the girl calls the police.
You should know that this is nothing new really. There has been campains from the governments taking position to end "harrassment" for a few years now.
And right now, there is a law being voted to allo all women to use random men's sperm to get pregnant. Which is replacing the male.
On top of that, add the migrants who doesn't get any prison time or fine for raping French girls.
I fucking hate what my country became. It took about ten years to go from average to bad.
European men are a bunch of sissified faggots who deserve every piece of matriarchal legislation thrown their way. No sympathy here. You think Trump would sign a bill like this into law? Nope, and thats exactly why us "stupid Americans" voted him into office. Thank fucking Christ. Enjoy your terrorists and feminist dictatorships, Eurocucks.
Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. Hope you all are prepared.
I live in a northern european country, nobody wolf whistles here, not even when drunk. People are too timid/beta to aggressively open women (not an effective strategy for getting girls anyway). You will not believe it, but most women will probably welcome such behaviour as it would make them feel WANTED (and something to complain about to their gfs lol). Many women have become like beta men (and probably enjoy feeling feminine/vulnerable), and a lot of men have become effete and even effeminate, so women lust and respond well to raw masculinity. I see this in the gym, just by approaching a girl (including the truly cute girls with a plump ass in tights) her face will light in all smiles, and laugh at even my lamest jokey little comment. THIRSTY for masculinity from a red pill man lol.
After a string of harassments in a public street, the Secretary in charge of Equality between Men and Women (the title sounds more official in French) is looking to codify punishments against street harassment like propositions, catcalls, and suggestive gestures.
Law enforcement does not like it because it's unclear whether the crime would be a violation or complaint (the terms don't translate well). If it's a violation, the cop needs to be at the scene and needs to view the act. If it's a complaint, it becomes he-says-she-says and it goes nowhere.
Feminists don't like it because it may allow real sexual harassers to get lighter punishments by hiding under this "street harassment" code.
There are already laws against unwanted public harassment. A slap on the ass can get you up to 5 years in jail. However less than 10% of these situations are pursued. Often the victims do not want to deal with the legal system over a catcall.
The deputy Secretary says, "sure, it's difficult, but that doesn't mean we should try to fix the problem. Street harassment is a real danger affecting younger and younger women and we need to look out for them.
A slap on the ass can get you up to 5 years in jail.
No no no no just fucking no, a country where judges believe that a hand slapping an ass is equivalent to spending 5 fucking years, aka 1825 fucking days behind bars, almost 10% of a man's life, is not even worth living in. I would just pack my shit and move away to a 3rd world country.
It has a pretty bad reputation over here for stretching the truth to foment outrage and sell papers. It is kind of like the print media's Buzzfeed. They do it pretty fucking successfully though, that shit works, you can't argue with that.
lol, women aren't going to even enforce this though... they're just waiting for a confident guy to pick them up on the street! are cops really going to waste their resources on a guy asking for a girls number? come on.. macron.. you need to get laid
I guess the global population growth must be really out of control for the powers that be to have to stoop to this level at undermining relationships between men and women.
I never considered wolf whistling to be macho... more like "hey I'm a lonely asshat who will never get laid so I will harass this pretty lady"
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Why go through the process of enacting legislation to end 'macho culture', when one can simply establish a degenerate society such that casual sex is normalised; consequently females take the birth control pill and urinate estrogen and progesterone into the water supply. Then just sit back and watch the men turn into placid, weak betas.
wtf is this shit All the web is already making fun of hystrionic women who see public harrassement everywhere in france omg (or at least from my facebook pov, but it's a quite classical moral POV)
(but if you look carefully for implication it's a good thing for some kind of nice guy blue pill, they will be able to take advantage of this even if asking on the street)
Some guy in the comment section over there made a reference to John B Calhoun's experiment on mice where him and his team of researchers designed a mouse utopia and studied the behavior and evolution of the mouse population. It was interesting, to say the least. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/0Z760XNy4VM
What I'm getting from the wording is the interpretation of actual harassment being illegal. Ie basically stalking, not just flirting, asking for a number, and moving on.
Of course the wording is important and interpretation is what matters.
One need no further than the dictionary meaning of harassment to see that a wolf whistle is not harassment... by definition... pun intended. Virtue signaling, and creating a buzz for liberal metros to aspire to
France does not have a "total freedom of speech" culture like in the US, that means hate speech and the like are illegal. It does indeed mean that sometimes what is considered hate or racism or misogyny is defined in very broad terms, not always rightly so.
Schiappa, the sectetary for Womens' rights, looks like a pure feminazi parading as a reformist. Although, in France there is a distinct category of people who are generally douchebags, mostly people of low income and status. Ordinary guys don't cat call or the like, they're naturally to cucked to "dissrispekt" women.
So my conclusion is that these measures are aimed mostly towards the weirdos who jerk off in the subway and then ask for a girl's number, that kind of scum, which in my opinion is good regardless.
But the bigger picture remains unchanged, as there are no laws which are being passed to support men specifically, nor is there a Men's rights secretary. My guess is that during her mandate, the feminist movement here in France, while being rather moderate for now, will transform into the american version on steroids as the French aren't used to this rhetoric.
When these liberal antics meet the islamic reality of masculinity at its worst ie when not if, parallel societies merge due to space conflicts, this is when the whole shit show hits the fan.
Not surprising in the least, Macron is a globalist puppet that's pushing mass immigration, feminism, LGBTQ rights, transgenderism, etc. Dude is married to a woman who's like 20 years older and was his teacher for fucks sake.
Probably has something to do with Muslims harassing non-Muslim women, but since Macron is a cuck he's got to dress it up as stopping traditional macho culture. Either way, these rules will sooner or later be used against ordinary men trying to score. All you need to do is to smile at the wrong feminist and she'll report you.
France is in terminal decline. It's getting too dangerous for tourists.
And they banned paternity testing without consent from the mother to 'keep the peace' and because a father is defined by 'social norms' and not 'biology' so cuckoldry is institutionalized.
There is no such thing as equality when it's all about power.
Civilization dies when masculinity is castrated.
Misguided compassion. Feeling sorry for someone doesn't mean you invite any specimen of Homo Sapien into your home.
This is just some made up bullshit to divert attention. Never forget politician have genius mastermind behind them. It's like manspreading, they did something, but something ridiculous to discredit the original message.
I would almost bet its not French guys doing the harassing but recent immigrants, this seems like it could be a clever way to target ''problematic'' groups without seeming racist.
This is above mens rights and more along the lines of freedom of speech/censorship. This could be a very slippery slope for the freedoms that citizens of France have.
Freedom?
They only have freedom to get cuckolded and murdered and not necessarily in that order.
You can't even paternity test when you're French man.
First declare you're not a man but an attack helicopter.
Then point out your "alleged" offspring doesn't have turbines.
Call for paternity test.
I bet they have law that actually forbids white heterosexual males to claim that
But your'e a chopper. An attack chopper nonetheless.
Technically turbines are used for jet propulsion. Rotors are used in helicopters.
https://m.imgur.com/t/reaction/Ek6jgeF
Shit, so if my kids have turbines but I'm an attack helicopter... has my wife been taking some Big Black Cockpit on the side?
Former Marine Helicopter mechanic here,
They technically do. If your children are apache helicopter offspring they'd be born with jet turbine engines which power the rotors.
Nah most helicopters are powered by turboshaft engines.
That's the cuckoldry part of my statement.
Although, I could've meant immigration, but per UN definitions Europe's coordinated population replacement plan is genocide.
After my understanding of all things TRP, I can't decide if it's the dumbest or the smartest law there is.
Either it's great to get rid of all of the non-alphas out of the french genepool. Or it's stupid when betas check out of the ambitious work, the tax-paying for their children.
It is stupid.
If you knew how genetics really work you'd know women actually fail to spot good genes based on first impressions.
All this is going to achieve is create a massive MGTOW-type current in France which will eventually leave the state broke.
You should try to talk to smart women sometimes. They spot good genes in quality men. Most of them are married to quality men. Most of them are raising boys and girls with good genes.
They do talk to you, don't they?
Women don't even try to spot good genes. They look only for the guys who stick around. Well, the night after. Girls care about his character and what his name, the night after.
They have that already. We call it socialism. It was implied.
Isn't it a beautiful world. They are implementing every single law to fuck you over in your efforts. But those two. Great stuff.
As a French, I would like to point that you are not sent (yet) to HR for holding a door or things like that.
The worst part is than pro EU, open borders proponents like Macron only got a close victory at last presidential election.
But the damage may have already been done. Head of DGSI (french counter espionnage and interior security) thought civil war was only matter of time. This possible Civil War would be between muslims and alt-right supporters. Actually, this seems improbable or extremely remote to french people. But the 2005 riots may prove his points.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3685561/France-verge-civil-war-sparked-mass-sexual-assault-women-migrants-intelligence-chief-warns.html
If you look at history and recent history you will see a systemic pattern of brainwashing and genocide.
Whether or not the proles wake up from their brainwashing and reclaim their manhood will be the deciding factor in whether a civil war breaks out.
Globalists do nothing if not sow the seeds of destruction so that they can profit later. They are a cancer that eats at its host to survive.
Yeah, I'm not against Immigration. Mostly because I have good friends well integrated who are immigrants. But you couldn't tell they are.
I agree with a well known Putin's quote on the subject. Not integrated minorities mean civil War, sooner or later.
I agree with you, globalists are a curse. On that matter France May get rid of them in 2022. Most of the Young people do Not vote globalists anymore.
The hardest part, is that it implies to defend ourselves against others countries globalists.
Most normal people are not anti-immigration. This is a straw man leftists use just like "everyone is a Nazi." They try to use social shaming to force compliance.
But what we are talking about is systemic population replacement of native peoples. This is genocide, pure and simple.
I wish the best for Europe but I fear the damage is already too late. They have let in a problem with exponential growth rates.
As a fellow French, I’m so glad I don’t live there anymore... ce bordel.
This is not a men's right issue, it's an immigration issue. Women can barely walk around without being hounded by refugees. It's become a third world country and they can't address the problem because it's insensitive to the multiculturalism and subsequent destabilization of western culture within France.
You take a coyote out of the wild and put it in your house and it pisses on your rugs and bites your children, then you have to keep it in a cage or kick it out. Macron approach: keep your children in a cage until they get tired of it and move out while making excuses for the coyote
They've made their bed, now they need to lie in it. Beside how will Asad the Somali refugee pay the fine?
Macron must be a poster 'nice guy'.
Are they doing this because of all the Paki rape gangs raping hundreds of thousands of young girls all over Europe in that huge slave sex traffic circle shit.... or Muslims throwing acid at women?
Or is this literal feminist Nazis taking over at this point. I'm confused
They are doing this because socialists always need a new way to spend someone else's money, and giving the government the power to collect money from men who were reported to have spoken to a woman is a way they can actually do that in 2017.
France's shit is cucked up. Has been for a long time.
Just like with child support and alimony and their ban on paternity testing, the point of these laws is to target the men who have the ability to pay.
This is the government being greedy and opportunistic and looking for a way to take advantage of 2017's political climate to get some positive PR and extra $. They have no interest in actually protecting French women from being raped by migrant populations.
I thought women LOVED being "raped" by migrants anyway.
Look at what happened in Germany and Sweden...
Lol, Macron is center right, you have no idea what you're talking about
Nazis were/are socialists. Left and Right does not directly correlate.
He is what Americans call liberal. He's a bank guy, not a nazi. Lol
Europe is still largely closeted Monarchists. This is why the US has a hard time relating. Most of them expect some sort of government body to take care of them. Whether that body is killing millions creating collectives or sending tanks to Moscow is a personal choice. It's the overall attitude that always ends the same way.
The shit test has gone too far now.
And now, mating rights are only reserved for foreign immigrants from established shitholes.
Well I mean there are already laws to stop Muslim rape gangs because, you know, rape has always been illegal. This is definitely more feminazi shit
Haha somehow I don’t think the sand people are the ones asking for phone numbers.
Perhaps they are, but only after they are finished with the whole "cultural exchange".
Btw Macron is gerontophiliac, but more importantly conmplete idiot. He is trying to earn PR points on this and other such cases like for example when he called Putin to stop the oppression of gays in Chechnya. If he only was trying to solve his own's country deep economical and social problems instead...
His name checks out - Mar(i)con.
Damn, did not see it there. And he indeed is the prezident of maricons, spending so much for makeup, that it would make supermodel jealous.
I'm not against what you are saying, I'm not in favour of what you are saying, I'm not taking any stance, I would just like to have some proof for your claims.
Muzzies have got a special license from Admiral Allah Hu Achbar to rape young girls and boys. They got it as a result of the incessant activism of Raper-in-Chief Mo (May He Rape In Peace).
Please quit hating on Muzzies. Please convince non Muzzie pretty women and kids to stop hating in Muzzies and embrace them.
Hahhahahahahahahaahhahahaahhhaha
I might have missed something there, but how is wolf-whistling and harrassment a freedom to be protected?
Next steps in progressive puritanism:
Sex is only allowed within marriage; all other sex is rape.
Only women may initiate sex. If a man indicates he wants sex, that is attempted rape.
Unless a refugee, then innocent because dey coultcha
I can see this very soon actually.
You must get signed written consent to have sex or you are at risk of being called out for rape
Retroactive withdrawal of consent. Checkmate, shitlord.
Yeah, consent can be withdrawn at any moment, or even ex-post facto.
I'm sorry, is this the UAE? Seems like it.
Ironicaly the UAE is the most TRP. Women are treated that way there because they recognize women are emotional creatures that cannot be trusted to make rational decisions in the household. Women also can't be the leader of a country because of their emotional nature.
You reminded me of Hegel when he compares women to plant and men to animals. Neither is good nor bad rather than just a way of life like yin and yang. He also states that "when women become leaders, the nation are in jeopardy. They can be good but no excellent". It's sad for me to see a masculine culture in Germany has been dead and now the fuckwits feminists are taking over the place. But at least Russia still keeps their masculinity and Trump has been voted so there's that.
UAE goes too far. I don't believe in sentencing women who have been raped to jail and women do deserve equal rights.
Agreed. I'm Muslim but from a different region so while I understand the reasoning, the UAE does take things too far.
Originally, the requirement for 4 devout male witnesses in cases of sexual intercourse outside marriage was due to women being unreliable witnesses.
It's a bit much to me personally but looking at all the false rape accusations it's not without basis.
Jailing the woman is totally something the UAE made up as far as I know though.
as someone who hates you and your religion, i will say that the way Muslims tream women is entirely fair and a good thing.
Are you crazy? I'm pretty certain that they have marital rape law, also.
This actually sounds plausible.
Can't ask for a number? Not everyone is lucky enough to get raped by the love of their life at 15 Macron.
This is the winning answer
But now it's deleted, how do we see it?
Too true, no experience understanding it so being the good little teacher's pet he takes their word for it. Pure grandstanding bs
Since when has fuckin' FRANCE been macho?
There was that one time when Napoleon was around.
They needed a Corsican to be macho.
Yeah napoleon was hangin big dong while it lasted
They are HARD closers...
They just cant fight.
The only thing macho about France is the big dick Eiffel tower.
It's really not that impressive honestly.
Since always. French men have the lover stereotype going on for them. Same with the Italians and Spaniards.
Which is a smooth image, not a macho one.
I always thought it was the overly aggressive, smelly Pepe LePue type.
Eh it still falls under the masculine umbrella
In my country French have the gay stereotype, also some of my friends who lived in France for about a year told me that their game is incredibly weak.
Yeah lotta native french over there cat calling, definately has nothing to do with the high influx of african and middle eastern immigrants from countries where women have no rights.
Just wait until they start to feel targeted by law enforcement and new laws such as these and decide to rebel. Going to be like Bastille all over again.
Honestly would be kinda funny and just desserts if the Muslims started to rebel in Europe. Don't think Europe will have the balls to do anything before it's way too late and it's kinda already too late
This is fucking absurd if it's true, but isn't the daily mail kind of like a tabloid in the UK
Nah they have laws like this in the UK already.
Yeah, but no one here believes that the UK is worth comparing or saving anymore. That society is fucked.
UK citizen here. It's better than America rn
I'm mostly talking on the sexual and SJW area. What do you think about those in the UK?
As a Brit, it's a case of 'different worlds'. There's the internet and there is the real world. It's been over 15 years since a women has identified herself as a feminist to me without someone else bringing up the subject. Sure they can argue feminism if somebody else starts it but otherwise they (and the rest of us) just get on with living life.
It's a bit like living in Stalinist Russia. Some shit you don't talk about and life goes on regardless.
You're entire country is on camera and you can't own a firearm without first asking the government's permission. You are not free.
The cameras are owned privately for the most part. Not by the government.
'You are not free'
In a single month American police officers killed more people than their British counterparts did in 95 years. 95 years.
I would rather live in a country full of cameras than one in which you have to pay for healthcare.
And you don't think US has mass surveillance? You're deluded if you don't.
Firearms being legal is one of the downfalls of US. You guys can keep your constant school shooting and police killing innocents daily
It's right wing and they constantly stir up controversial issues to sell papers, and in this case, to get internet clicks.
Daily mail is right wing? Dude, are you serious?
It is shit wing just as the Sun, the Telegraph or the Guardian.
Yes, but the Torygraph and Guardian are opposite end shit.
I think in europe the right and the left are different then in america.
This seems to make most sense or people are trolling hard
Everybody associated with the Daily mail, from the owners from the editors is right wing. It's stance on nearly every political issue is right wing. It is a staunch supporter of the conservative party. It supported the Nazi party. In fact it is widely regarded as the furthest right of any newspaper in the bloody country. Is this subreddit supposed to be satire?
If youre a part of the "Left Wing" then youre on the wrong fucking sub, dumbass.
Daily Mail is left wing for people not effete enough for the Guardian.
Only immigrants ever do that kind of stuff.
First they import these foreign men, then these guys start misbehaving and the solution is to punish the native population. Genius!
its like school bullshit when one small group in the classroom misbehaves everyone gets punished
I'm french and I'm fuckin disgusted this man won the election, 3 years earlier nobody knew who he was and millions of french people are persuaded the election was corrupted the way the medias praised him while they attacked all the other big candidates for months before the election, and the only reason he won was not because he had such a wonderful charisma, political project or what but because people did not want to vote for her opponent, Marine Le Pen, considered a fascist, neo-nazi and so on by the medias, after only 4 months he's already the most hated president since 1958 ! Wish me good luck with that prick I'll have to bear til 2022
J'en peux plus de la France (et l'Europe en général)... Je pensais que c'était pourri avec Sarko, ensuite c'était pire avec Hollande, mais là c'est le pompon...
Ah tiens je pensais pas croiser un français ici ! Là je fais tout pour gratter un visa pour un pays anglophone et d'ailleurs c'est pour ça que je traine sur Reddit pour améliorer mon anglais ( USA, Canada ou Australie) car je vais sur mes 25 ans et je refuse de passer ma vie d'adulte dans un pays et un continent aussi claqués, je suis jeune mais je me rappelle de 2007 comme si c'était un monde complètement différent avant Sarkozy, la crise et le traité européen, et plus ça va et plus ça devient invivable !
J'ai 37 balais... Et franchement je me vois mal refaire ma vie bien que tout semble m'y pousser...
J'ai vécu aux USA (en fait j'y ai fait mes études) ne t'attends pas à des miracles pour ce qui est des femmes; ceci dit elles sont moins "policées" qu'en France, mine de rien.
Je ne sais pas, la mentalité française... Je la trouve finalement moins "ouverte" que dans les pays anglo-saxons. Je suis d'un naturel artistique bien que finalement aussi un bon geek de première; aux USA ou en Angleterre on te regarde moins de travers si tu t'habille un peu "bizarrement" ou alors que tu expliques que tes centres d'intérêt sont: la compo musicale, la philosophie et les algorithmes de compression audio/vidéo... En France j'ai l'impression de devoir dire que mes centres intérêt sont: le foot, le foot, les apéros entre "amis", et le boulot.
J'ai connu la France et de manière générale la vie avant tout le bordel mélodramatique du politiquement correct, des réseaux « sociaux » et tout se passait finalement pas si mal que ça. Les relations hommes-femmes étaient beaucoup plus simples et satisfaisantes sans avoir à gérer les délires du féminisme "third wave". En même temps peut être je me fais vieux...
37 ans c'est pas vieux ! Et si je vais aux US c'est pas pour les gonzesses mais pour moi quoi, le boulot, le lifestyle, etc...! Côté filles j'ai commencé à m'intéresser à la séduction en 2006 donc j'étais vraiment jeune et du coup j'ai vite appris à pratiquer et à maîtriser le truc et à creuser mon trou avec les filles, mais depuis près d'un an que je fréquente Reddit et trp je me rends compte que là aussi comme partout les américains sont vraiment loin devant nous question drague ; globalement même s'il y a une bien pensance en France avec suffisamment de confiance en soi tu peux te faire accepter à peu près partout sauf chez les gens vraiment cons même si t'as des délires un peu "edgy", juste après les présidentielles jme rappelle avoir dit à un groupe de gens en soirée que j'avais voté Le Pen aux deux tours ( ce qui était vrai, mais plus par déconnade que par adhésion car je savais qu'elle passerait pas de toute façon) et globalement si tu te défiles pas ils s'en foutent autant que toi et c'est même une manière d'attirer l'attention sur toi aussi bien de la part des mecs que des meufs. Quoiqu'il en soit t'as raison sur le fait que les choses sont allées beaucoup trop vite ces dernières années, on est saturés par les réseaux sociaux et les mouvements d'extrême gauche en lien avec le féminisme dégénéré et autres anti-fascistes, je me dis donc que l'herbe est forcément plus verte quelque part ailleurs
Niveau drague je m'y suis pris très tard, après la rupture avec mon ex... On va dire à 34 ans... Sinon avant ça j'étais trop pris dans mes centres d'interets d'"autiste" comme l'electronique, le code etc...
Donc sociallement je suis plutôt nul.
Tu serais surpris du nombre de français/francophones sur TRP. ;)
Tu serais surpris du nombre de français/francophones sur TRP. ;)
Merde sérieux ?! Vu que la France c'est à peine 1% du traffic du site et que TRP c'est pas un gros subreddit je me prenais limite pour Christophe Colomb hahaha
Hahaha, you're not special. 😆 On avait même fait une petite rencontre sur Paris.
Lol, en Australie, il vienne de bannir les hommes d'entrer dans l'armèe, et le Canada a son propre Macron avec Justin Trudeau, un autre jeune et dynamique.
C'est pourri en France, mais pas si.mieux que ca dans les pays anglophones. Y'a qu'a voir ce thread, la plupart des comms sont des gros stereotypes et les même "cheese eating surrender monkey jokes".
Il n'existe aucun paradis terrestre évidemment mais des villes valent clairement le détour de par le niveau de vie global qu'elles offrent, je pense notamment à Vancouver, Sidney ou Denver qui sont réputées pour leur confort, tandis qu'en France c'est mort de chez mort, quelques villes comme Nantes tirent leur épingle du jeu mais autrement circulez, il n'y a rien à voir
Omelette du fromage! Omelette du fromage!
http://i.imgur.com/tNJD6oY.gifv
This is a kind reminder that in French we say "omelette au fromage" and not "omelette du fromage".
Sorry Dexter
You know that doesn't actually mean anything right?
Actually, it could have been worse. That man is a lie. But he got most of the globalists into his ranks. So we could put them all in the trash where they belong next time.
It is sad, that he got elected. But you need strong popular support in order to get rid of the globalists.
Think of it, a sovereign France which defend its people interests. It would be one the worst nightmare for the globalists in Washington and in the EU. And they would do anything to destroy it.
Yup, and one day those things will happen, when you think of how things go as time goes by you see a sort of awakening within the masses, it's slow but it's steady at the same time : in France, from 1958 to 1981, the Republicans governed exclusively like it was a dictatorship, then from 1981 to 2017 the Republicans and the Socialists governed alternatively, and eventually during the 2017 campaign for the first time in 60 years these 2 political parties have been eliminated in the 1st round so the final round would oppose the far right and Macron (not affiliated to any political party), so when people will have enough of him in 2022 they will vote more wisely this time
Feminists are going to be the first to applaud. Then the first to cry when sex robots will become mainstream.
Ten seconds later she's like... "ewww so many creeps here... arrrghh why won't this hot guy take my hints and ask for my number???"
France lost their macho culture long before Macron was ever born.
He is a product of the beta culture.
The moment they started building their tanks with reverse gear.
Modern France has always been a shitty place.
Sky high taxes, low incomes, shitty work environments (very top down management that acts like they do you a favor by employing you for low pay), flooded with impoverished low IQ unskilled migrants. This is merely a last measure to make a shitty place even shittier.
I have wondered in the past why anyone lives there at this point
In Europe there is literally no place to go to. Every place with a decent economy is migrant infested (as they all go where the best gibmedats are) and anti straight white male to the max.
Maybe he should outlaw migrant rape gangs first. Highly unlikely he will cause apparently France/Europe is into live cuckolding porn.
that would make them racist and we can't have that in this day and age
The wolf whistling is probably really fucking annoying to be fair.
I live in San Francisco and have NO problem with gay men but some just won't take the fucking hint.
I used to work out of a coffee shop and a guy kept coming over to me constantly trying to talk me up and hit on me. I literally told him "I have work to do and I'm not gay" ... and he just would ignore me.
I just had to abandon working there.
I imagine attractive women have the same problem and harassment like this is not cool.
Honestly pretty valid. Some people don't know when to back the fuck off. That being said, making it illegal is pants on head retarded.
You must be a very hot looking gay straight man
... or the OP was Asian, and the creep was a Rice Queen.
Asian gay guy here. White boys can be pretty but i won't risk my respect just to get a whitey to look me down. F them rather than loosing my pride.
no offense but wtf are you doing in the TRP thread?
Because a lot of gay guys have their mindset similar to women. I can learn from you guys and i enjoy the company of male buddies (for friendship, not taking advantage haha) I already mentioned somewhere that if u look into any culture, there's a similarity between the way of life between the gay guys and their female counterparts. Same as Western women - western gay, Asian women - Asian gay etc
So are we going to ban all the things which are "annoying" to some people now? If that was a petite red head with a sweet face, big titties and a small ass, you maybe wouldn't have been annoyed, would you?
Also pretending that there is some kind epidemic, where women can't walk 10ft. without getting harrassed is just fucking bullshit.
Except 99% of the time it's a fat, ugly fuck who's bitter when he doesn't get a good reaction when he catcalls from a distance.
I'd like to see that study you are basing this on. Also this clearly shows that you have never been to France. There simply aren't as many fat fucks.
The point I'm trying to make is that there isn't going to be a hot guy catcalling the woman that's gonna make her like being catcalled.
Most of the time it's idiots that have this irritable vibe to them that make women not like being catcalled.
Now asking a woman out is different than being catcalled.
Is it? You know that for a fact? Or are you just...completely making that up?
You think it's a hot, charming guy that hits em up more often than not, or what I said?
And yes, I base it on my experience as just a guy walking through the streets, I'd imagine it's worse for a girl. 99% of idiots who just randomly shout or say shit to me look like losers.
Gay man here and can confirm. We give up if the guy refuses and tells us he's straight. Prob the guy keeping hitting at you has some sorts of his personal issues.
No we were busy painting gay men as all the same. Why'd you have to ruin it.
Lol. Just let you know that I'm gsy, can look a bit effiminated since I'm vain but inside, my mind and way of thinking are masculine than lots of straight guys who are pussy as f. 😂
May we ask you, out of sheer curiosity, what kind of job you hold, or at least if it is a quintessentially masculine job (coal miner, bricklayer, trash collector, etc), or something softer, like office work, interior design, art critic, etc?
He's a fashion designer on a space ship. What other job would hire a homosexual?
Why would the masculinity level of a job define any man?
Where in SF? I've worked here for about 8 years and lived here my whole life - my job takes me across all social circles from the politicians at City Hall to the slums of Hunter's Point. I've rarely seen people aggressively hitting on others in public outside of the nightlife at bars and clubs (and even then its rather tame compared to other big cities). I can count the number of times Ive seen "wolf whistling" on my hand during the day (literally twice).
I don't know where you're seeing this.
Are you serious? I lived in the gayest neighborhood in the world for much of my life and usually gay men know when you are straight.
They still did in OP's case.
I'm a straight guy and I've been hit on by gays. It's really not that bad, you just tell them no. They usually persist and then I just laugh at them.
I understand it's worse for pretty girls, but it's just part of life. If you're a girl you get hit on and aren't taken seriously. If you're a guy you have to deal with rejection and aren't given any sympathy. And if our politicians get to feeling macho then you might have to go die in a ditch. On the whole women are getting off easy.
The other complicating factor is that for most guys you can't get laid without being proactive, bordering on pushy. How many stories have we heard where an old couple is interviewed and the girl says, "he kept asking me out, I didn't like him at first but he started to grow on me.". Translation: I said no to everyone but Chad, but this guy had balls and that turned me on.
How is it the government's job to regulate that? Also step up and tell them to fuck off. Most women now have no problem telling you off if you check them out.
Yep, as a guy, being shit talked and harassed in the streets is not pleasant at all.
This isn't a sexual issue for men or women, it's just about not being a douche to random people in the streets.
Yeah, some things are annoying in life. Get over it.
oh dear.
so you have an issue with the gay guy ignoring you who you didn't want hitting on you? sounds like a woman problem.
Work on reading comprehension
R u retarded ? He meant that the gay dude would dismiss his rejection and ignore it as if it never happened, our man was telling him to fuck off and wanted nothing to do with him
Work on reading comprehension
Speaking of pants on head retarded...
Who knew that a Rothschild banker would push the Globalist agenda? Gotta keep them white goys weak and docile during the Muslim takeover. Laws only apply to Europeans. Muslims are free to continue to rape and pillage because that is their culture.
Yup, the irony is that these policies may inadvertently target black and muslim frenchmen.
Alas, no white french woman would dare a racist accusation of that sense. So primarily whites will be punished.
Oh, don't worry. It will only be enforced on who it is convenient.
Just like in the U.K.: we could not let terrorists in and watch the ones that are here but instead we're gonna crack down on Tommy Robinson
There won't be a muslim takeover in France. Civil War is much more likely. Particulary, if non globalists won the next election. Our extreme right allied with some non globalists did a historical score. It just sad that they are racists.
Globalists seem to loose popular support quite fast. Particularly among the younger electorate. Next election we may have a Frexit.
And fortunately, globalists will likely be defeated by China and Russia.
I know you intended that to sound funny but it's the attitude of our leaders 100% (i'm french)
what actually the fuck are you talking about?
Are you not watching the world change?
He's from the UK. The brainwashing is still strong with him. Give him time.
Das Dritte Reich wird es nie geben Schätzchen ;)
Well shit. What's a man supposed to do? Just stand passively and wait for a woman to come and rip his clothes off? Because at this point that seems to be the only way a man can avoid being accused of harassment or rape.
No matter what you do, or don't do, you can be "accused" of it, which carries stigma, cost, and reputation destruction equivalent to being convicted.
And even if she pleads for sex in front of a notary, with her hand on the Bible, they can argue that the consent was retroactively withdrawn, so it's still rape.
A girl opened me on the subway which happens about once a year. A few minutes in the interaction she realized she didn't like me so she yelled she was being harrassed even though she was the one to open the conversation. Paris is fucked. And yeah I got arrested.
Countries like France are already well beyond saving. Best to just pull the plug rather than prolong the suffering.
#1 baby boys name in London is Muhammad.... Europe is no longer Europe.
London is so different to the rest of the UK it's untrue. Still have immigrants but nowhere near on the same scale.
This is already a law in the UK, I don't know whether to laugh or cry: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-37405732
Martha Jephcott, who has trained Nottinghamshire police officers on how to deal with misogyny as a hate crime, said: "Recognising misogyny as a hate crime is important because it acknowledges the world in which women live and the everyday nature of these sorts of incidents."
Fifteen police forces will attend a conference in Nottingham on Wednesday, looking at the possibility of adopting similar schemes, which they hope will increase the reporting of harassment.
Ms Jephcott said: "I want forces across the country to adopt this. I think it's a matter of equality.
This is my local rag: http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/15142043.Misogyny_now_a_hate_crime_in_North_Yorkshire/?ref=rss
MISOGYNY will now be considered a hate crime by North Yorkshire Police.
In July last year, Nottinghamshire Police became the first force to classify unwanted sexual or verbal advances towards women, including catcalling and wolf whistling, as hate crimes, in a move to tackle sexist abuse.
The crime will be defined as any criminal offence perceived by a female victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice based on her gender.
HER. The other day a drunk guy followed a woman down the street, when she ignored him he put his hand on her shoulder (not a good idea), so she called the police. He got 3 years.
3 years for putting his hand on her shoulder, can you cite source?
That qualifies as assault -two, but coupled with other things, and a white knight prosecutor, yes, I can see three years.
Yeah, I'm asking for the source, but thank you.
Sorry to ask, but is it the police that makes laws in the UK? How do you know what is and is not lawful? In the US, for ex, State of Washington, the State has a set of laws called RCW, passed by the legialature and signed by the Governor, and the laws must be in harmony with the state's constitution. The police can kill you, but theoretically, they just enforce the law, not write it.
Do you even know how old is that little shit's wife? 64 fucking years old! Just imagine yourself stuck with that super dry jerky vagina, just imagine how that hole looksdontgoogd64yovagina ! He's watching helplessly as his life slips away, he's mad an has presidential powers. In his mind, if he can't get fresh pussy then no one else should.
This is hilarious because soon the muslims will take over France anyway.
My Breathing offends the feminazis nowadays.
Its that shit your penis is spitting out that offends them!
More or less they want grounds to deport illegals when they stalk women.
Daily mail. Top kek
Yeah, but I think they usually skip asking for her number.
exactly I think it's a double-edge strategy. it looks like a cause to deport illegals while also cucking masculinity. it makes sense to import immagrants, allow them to run rampant, and then remove rights from everyone because one group was acting up.
I'm fine with these laws if it means deporting illegals. We have far to many of them stinking up Europe.
Will you still be fine with it when the law is used against you because some woman thinks you're not attractive enough?
It won't, sadly. That's one thing that will never happen, because they risk death or torture when they go home.
"could mean outlawing wolf whistles", classic daily mail spin, shit paper with zero credibility. Calm down, it's anti-harassment, neither wolf whistling nor asking for numbers will become 'illegal'.
He is just jealous he was only able to snag an old hag.
It's outer-limits plot worthy.
A ruler who is blind puts out the eyes of all his subjects, because he himself cannot see. There is some timeless poetry here.
Aesop's fable: The Lion in Love: A Lion fell in love with a beautiful maiden and proposed marriage. The maiden’s parents did not know what to say. They did not want to give their daughter to the Lion, yet they did not wish to enrage the King of Beasts. At last the father said: “We feel highly honored by your Majesty’s proposal, but our daughter is a tender young girl, and we fear that in the heat of love you might possibly do her injury. Might I venture to suggest that your Majesty should have your claws removed, and your teeth extracted; then we would consider your proposal again.” The Lion was so much in love that he had his claws trimmed and his big teeth taken out. But, when he again came to the parents of the young girl they simply laughed at him.
He's just mad that he is married to a SJW twice his age. If he can't have fun none of us can.
It's ironic that in france a women would have been a better president(for france in general and for men in particular) than this granny fucker midget.
He is a puppet of the occult. He worked for a Rothschild bank. What did You think he would do?
Fine by me and I hope they do it.
When I see French women here in The States then my game will work even better. French bitches will be starving for dominance and charisma
You sound like you're starving for puasy yo dam seff
famished. usually i crave a big dik
You sound like you're starving for puasy yo dam seff
Don't worry, France is dead already because muslims and "refugees"
“Talking to someone and asking for [a number] will not be considered harassment."
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a12442465/wolf-whistling-illegal-france/
But a woman wouldn't lie about something like that, so it will be easy to prove. The accusation will be enough.
... doesn't he have more important things to do, such as turn the economy around, address racial divides, keep the EU from collapsing, removing red tape from France's infamous bureaucracy, etc?
Yeah, it's not going to happen. This is just some virtue signaling from a feminist minister of Macron.
Both the police AND feminists groups said that it's not possible to enforce such laws. Belgium passed something similar years ago and so far only three complaints have been filed with no follow up.
It's funny because Frenchmen are too cucked to do this shit and Muslims are too alpha to follow the cuck's laws anyway.
This is what happens when men FAIL to assert themselves. The general loss of frame of men on a macro-scale in western society, will lead towards a bottomless pit of concessions that will never satisfy the menopausal harpies, and vapid dykey cat-ladies that have waaay too much power in media, academia and politics. They want infinite sacrifice from men, and their eternal humiliation - that's what awaits you for being a spineless beta. If men in general had game, and weren't raised with the equality bullshit by overbearing feminist parents (usually defeated dad), all of this nonsense would stop.
So I'll have to ask her permission to ask her for her telephone number?
The globalists hands down installed that fucker. It's a lot easier to manipulate elections in European countries than it is the US. Le Pen had much more support than the media reported.
But. But then who iz going to butter ze baguettte?!
Harassing and following women around like a creep isn't okay. There's ways to compliment or chat up a woman without harassing them or being a total creep.. In all my time of doing pickup/meeting women, I've never acted like some fucking loser who gropes women or says creepy shit to them in public, nor have I felt any desire or need to in order to build attraction.
The difference between being labelled a creep or otherwise is based purely on your SMV.
I'd love to read a field report of someone that would make a good example of what is a TRP man demonstrating how much they could get away with on the creep-o-meter (stalking and obsessive behaviors).
I know that there are some things I wouldn't get away with, my SMV is not that high, but there have been plenty of other things (not relating to sex) I have been getting away with purely by adopting things in the sidebar.
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The popularity of Edward Whatshisface in the Twilight series in the modern culture is strong evidence. He's an abusive simpering beta creep but he's 'hawwwt' so it's okay.
Thanks for telling us that. What would all us morons do if we didn't have enlightened champions to lecture us on the obvious.
Clickbait title.
Stop falling for sensationalist bullshit for Christ's sake.
Yup. None of the articles mention anything about making asking for numbers illegal.
You morons will fall for anything that supports your views.
How quickly the French surrender again...
Easy way to fix that. Every single man should go on a 10 year strike and not date a single female for that time.
Never gonna happen of course, but it would be fun to watch.
So much bullshit from a guy who is willing to fuck anyones grandma.
Get this black pill political stuff off this sub.
These new proposed rules definitely affect sexual strategy so I think it belongs here.
At this point, the inevitable descent into sharia law is starting look merciful for the French. I personally can't wait to purple-haired feminazi hambeasts beaten publically by the virtue police when that happens.
France new slogan for future generations of men: Je suis pussy
Just tell them you're muslim and you can get away with anything.
This is a country on it's knees.
Do any of you live in France? I do.
Man, my girlfriend/friends will not go out alone a SINGLE day without being catcalled or simply called a slut for ignoring the catcalls.
Not. a. single. day.
This is something that struck me, coming from a country I thought progressive, tolerant, multicultural, etc etc etc.
I don't know how will this be enforced tho. Most women here I know just shrug street harrassment off and go about their day without making a big fuss about it. It also doesn't happen when they are with males.
As a dude living here, I can confidently say this is not a suppression tool. Sleazy fuckers need to be stopped somehow.
I've been living in Paris all my life.
10 years ago, you would have been able to witness intergenders interactions in every day life settings. Now men are too afraid. I was talking to a friend of mine whom I did street pick up with 10 years ago and he told me he stopped hitting on girls on the streets because 9 times out of ten the girl calls the police.
You should know that this is nothing new really. There has been campains from the governments taking position to end "harrassment" for a few years now.
And right now, there is a law being voted to allo all women to use random men's sperm to get pregnant. Which is replacing the male.
On top of that, add the migrants who doesn't get any prison time or fine for raping French girls.
I fucking hate what my country became. It took about ten years to go from average to bad.
So? Just don't whistle and ask for their facebook instead.
You know what? Good.
European men are a bunch of sissified faggots who deserve every piece of matriarchal legislation thrown their way. No sympathy here. You think Trump would sign a bill like this into law? Nope, and thats exactly why us "stupid Americans" voted him into office. Thank fucking Christ. Enjoy your terrorists and feminist dictatorships, Eurocucks.
Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. Hope you all are prepared.
I live in a northern european country, nobody wolf whistles here, not even when drunk. People are too timid/beta to aggressively open women (not an effective strategy for getting girls anyway). You will not believe it, but most women will probably welcome such behaviour as it would make them feel WANTED (and something to complain about to their gfs lol). Many women have become like beta men (and probably enjoy feeling feminine/vulnerable), and a lot of men have become effete and even effeminate, so women lust and respond well to raw masculinity. I see this in the gym, just by approaching a girl (including the truly cute girls with a plump ass in tights) her face will light in all smiles, and laugh at even my lamest jokey little comment. THIRSTY for masculinity from a red pill man lol.
You implicitly decry a generalisation of Americans but then perpetuate a generalisation of Europeans.
Europe and Europeans are not a monolith.
Can't find a single french source on this.
http://www.journaldesfemmes.com/societe/actu/1909489-harcelement-de-rue-marlene-schiappa-groupe-travail/
http://www.la-croix.com/France/Securite/Marlene-Schiappa-sattaque-harcelement-rue-2017-09-20-1200878240
http://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/penaliser-le-harcelement-de-rue-est-ce-faisable-1244846
I dont speak french, but here are some links I found
So a woman at the government, whose job is to look for men/women equality is building a proposal to prevent unwanted harassment.
There is no mention of Macron wanting to make number closing illegal.
I speak French, let me translate roughly.
After a string of harassments in a public street, the Secretary in charge of Equality between Men and Women (the title sounds more official in French) is looking to codify punishments against street harassment like propositions, catcalls, and suggestive gestures.
Law enforcement does not like it because it's unclear whether the crime would be a violation or complaint (the terms don't translate well). If it's a violation, the cop needs to be at the scene and needs to view the act. If it's a complaint, it becomes he-says-she-says and it goes nowhere.
Feminists don't like it because it may allow real sexual harassers to get lighter punishments by hiding under this "street harassment" code.
There are already laws against unwanted public harassment. A slap on the ass can get you up to 5 years in jail. However less than 10% of these situations are pursued. Often the victims do not want to deal with the legal system over a catcall.
The deputy Secretary says, "sure, it's difficult, but that doesn't mean we should try to fix the problem. Street harassment is a real danger affecting younger and younger women and we need to look out for them.
No no no no just fucking no, a country where judges believe that a hand slapping an ass is equivalent to spending 5 fucking years, aka 1825 fucking days behind bars, almost 10% of a man's life, is not even worth living in. I would just pack my shit and move away to a 3rd world country.
It's the Daily Fail. Please, ignore it.
nothing wrong with the daily mail
It has a pretty bad reputation over here for stretching the truth to foment outrage and sell papers. It is kind of like the print media's Buzzfeed. They do it pretty fucking successfully though, that shit works, you can't argue with that.
lol, women aren't going to even enforce this though... they're just waiting for a confident guy to pick them up on the street! are cops really going to waste their resources on a guy asking for a girls number? come on.. macron.. you need to get laid
Fuck! I was starting to like the guy for the arrogant, offensive shit he was starting to say to offend people.
Like the shit about Africans breeding more than they can be feeding. Haha.
What a bummer. EU is cucked.
See you guys in France, where I'll be getting numbers and crushing ass.
I guess the global population growth must be really out of control for the powers that be to have to stoop to this level at undermining relationships between men and women.
Can women "cat call" men still?
Was in Paris on my grand tour of Europe, city is legit a horror show with all the third world vermin.
But really was there ever a macho culture in France?
I never considered wolf whistling to be macho... more like "hey I'm a lonely asshat who will never get laid so I will harass this pretty lady"
Why go through the process of enacting legislation to end 'macho culture', when one can simply establish a degenerate society such that casual sex is normalised; consequently females take the birth control pill and urinate estrogen and progesterone into the water supply. Then just sit back and watch the men turn into placid, weak betas.
wtf is this shit All the web is already making fun of hystrionic women who see public harrassement everywhere in france omg (or at least from my facebook pov, but it's a quite classical moral POV)
(but if you look carefully for implication it's a good thing for some kind of nice guy blue pill, they will be able to take advantage of this even if asking on the street)
Some guy in the comment section over there made a reference to John B Calhoun's experiment on mice where him and his team of researchers designed a mouse utopia and studied the behavior and evolution of the mouse population. It was interesting, to say the least. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/0Z760XNy4VM
What I'm getting from the wording is the interpretation of actual harassment being illegal. Ie basically stalking, not just flirting, asking for a number, and moving on.
Of course the wording is important and interpretation is what matters.
One need no further than the dictionary meaning of harassment to see that a wolf whistle is not harassment... by definition... pun intended. Virtue signaling, and creating a buzz for liberal metros to aspire to
Best of luck enforcing this with all the muzzies they bring over.
He's a cuck. Big surprise he wants to do cuck things.
France does not have a "total freedom of speech" culture like in the US, that means hate speech and the like are illegal. It does indeed mean that sometimes what is considered hate or racism or misogyny is defined in very broad terms, not always rightly so.
Schiappa, the sectetary for Womens' rights, looks like a pure feminazi parading as a reformist. Although, in France there is a distinct category of people who are generally douchebags, mostly people of low income and status. Ordinary guys don't cat call or the like, they're naturally to cucked to "dissrispekt" women.
So my conclusion is that these measures are aimed mostly towards the weirdos who jerk off in the subway and then ask for a girl's number, that kind of scum, which in my opinion is good regardless.
But the bigger picture remains unchanged, as there are no laws which are being passed to support men specifically, nor is there a Men's rights secretary. My guess is that during her mandate, the feminist movement here in France, while being rather moderate for now, will transform into the american version on steroids as the French aren't used to this rhetoric.
When these liberal antics meet the islamic reality of masculinity at its worst ie when not if, parallel societies merge due to space conflicts, this is when the whole shit show hits the fan.
Damn. Macron's done some good things, or so I've heard, but Le Penn should've won.
Not surprising in the least, Macron is a globalist puppet that's pushing mass immigration, feminism, LGBTQ rights, transgenderism, etc. Dude is married to a woman who's like 20 years older and was his teacher for fucks sake.
Probably has something to do with Muslims harassing non-Muslim women, but since Macron is a cuck he's got to dress it up as stopping traditional macho culture. Either way, these rules will sooner or later be used against ordinary men trying to score. All you need to do is to smile at the wrong feminist and she'll report you.
France is in terminal decline. It's getting too dangerous for tourists.
And they banned paternity testing without consent from the mother to 'keep the peace' and because a father is defined by 'social norms' and not 'biology' so cuckoldry is institutionalized.
There is no such thing as equality when it's all about power.
Civilization dies when masculinity is castrated.
Misguided compassion. Feeling sorry for someone doesn't mean you invite any specimen of Homo Sapien into your home.
This is just some made up bullshit to divert attention. Never forget politician have genius mastermind behind them. It's like manspreading, they did something, but something ridiculous to discredit the original message.
I would almost bet its not French guys doing the harassing but recent immigrants, this seems like it could be a clever way to target ''problematic'' groups without seeming racist.
This has to be targeting the immigrants right?