Which more reflects reality when it comes to how women approach dating the so called dual mating strategy or the continuous phase strategy?

taapy234 · 2020-07-15T14:15:36+00:00

I would argue View B is just Reality A rephrased basically.

I know some women who claims to follow View B like most women do, but when they hit the "drought" so to speak, they revert back to Reality A in a moment's notice.

Because, unlike men who wallow in being alone for not being able to find a suitable partner, women distract themselves with short term chads if they remain single for too long due to her being more career oriented and being more busy, etc like you said.

To quote most women themselves, they say they are in "hoe phase." (which is blatantly Reality A to the T )

trueorfalsedmitry · 2020-07-15T15:04:36+00:00

I was gonna say (like a couple of others have already) that A and B exhibit a distinction without a difference. But, a closer reading reveals these jewels:

experiments with things she may not ultimately want,

wants something more solid.

This language is the usual from bloopers trying to rationalize riding the carousel, then locking down a schlub. There's this fantasy where the young girl is so unbelievably naive that she can't possibly have any real agency. She's simply carried along on the waves of "experimentation," unable to discern anything about how things work. However, somehow, in the space of roughly a decade, this naif becomes the Sage of All Things About Men. She now sees--with crystal clear precision--how the world works and what she "wants."

It's all horseshit, if course. But, the biggest lie is the use of the word, "wants." What a woman wants doesn't change with time: she wants to get drilled by Chad. She also always wants to be secure and find a mate ("something more solid"). What changes is not her wants. What changes is the strategy she must employ to ensure the security. What changes is what she must do. I want to eat cake every day. However, in order to not weigh 400 pounds, I must eschew that want. She wants to fuck attractive men...

TheJim66 · 2020-07-15T14:18:52+00:00

Dual mating strategy. It's not that young women get exclusively pursued by Chad, nor is it very difficult to ascertain what type of guy these "bad boys" are. Their preferences conveniently "change" when their looks start diminishing and they feel the pressure to get married.

There is no "search" for the man they end up settling for. They know how to find such a guy but they just don't find it desirable. The only search is for either a Chad that commits or the fabled Alpha Bucks, who is both rare as fuck and has high standards they fail to meet.

Barely-moral · 2020-07-15T14:16:46+00:00

A difference without a meaning. Both are the same. She had one standard in the past, she has different standards now. The last guy gets a worse deal.

sparklingscott · 2020-07-15T14:05:08+00:00

What does it matter if the outcome is the same.

Coloring_Fractals · 2020-07-15T18:47:06+00:00

Like I’m going to answer a question about women phrased like this? Can’t you talk to people like we’re all human instead of sounding like a 🧠cels Markov chain?

brackenz · 2020-07-15T19:43:06+00:00

But she had to open a lot of oysters to find a pearl.

Terrible choice of words given the context

As for your question: neither

Much like men aren't just chads and betabux, women aren't all riding the "cock carousel" then getting metaphorically discarded and having to marry some creep with money

To start not all women can ride that carousel, I say if you're below a 6 then you're not really "riding" just getting railed, dont expect even a short meaningless relationship out of that. Tho at least you arent a man, in that situation you get nothing

Back to women, there are plenty of women who keep partying into their 50s, fact is if they put out then someone somewhere will be willing to tap that. The trp is delusional about "the wall" thinking that after 30s women just get rejected left and right, and even more delusional when they think men automatically increase in value when in reality most losers stay that way, not necessarily their fault but the result of complex socioeconomic factors

Substantial_Wasabi · 2020-07-15T14:36:29+00:00

I think a mix of both. Of course the terpers are gonna just say ALL women do dual mating. I think more conservatively raised women will employ view B more often, aswell as introverted women are more likely to do B. But yeah i think about half of the female population does A and then the other half does B.

Beneneb · 2020-07-15T15:43:07+00:00

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Candyboi97 · 2020-07-15T16:41:07+00:00

The one where men don't have an obligation to bail out a woman from her past failures and/or aren't shamed for not choosing specific kind of women they find unattractive.

heythere360 · 2020-07-15T15:52:56+00:00

Either way, women are smart to do whatever tf they want during their “best years”

The other side of this that men love to ignore is that men on this sub alllllways talk about how women in their youth will always be most desirable. They pretend that if a women gives up her “best” years for them, they’ll be faithful to her and never truly desire fucking the young thing that flirts with them at work. That’s not how it works.

It makes so much more sense to you know, live your life the way you want it in your youth then settle down with a like minded man. I would never marry a former incel, because of how bitter and competitive they are about their lack of a sex life in their 20s.

Men on this sub really believe because they didn’t get any play in their 20s, all men are exactly like them. It’s not true. Men who had no trouble dating in their 20s who decide to settle down are happy to be with non virginal women, because they’re not desperate. YES no man wants to be with the town bicycle, but in normal people land, both parties are smart about not rubbing their wildest days in their partners faces.

VariationBusiness · 2020-07-15T14:13:37+00:00

It starts off with the bad boys and what not, but really that's the more aggressive suitors pursuing her, taking advantage of her youth and naïveté, and she learns lessons about what she likes and doesn't like, and eventually becomes more and more selective in finding that LTR she actually wants. But she had to open a lot of oysters to find a pearl

Lollll, this invalidates View B entirely. Women do not self reflect and learn lessons and actively choose less attractive mates. If the super hawt guy from the office wanted her in her 30s she'd drop her schlubby husband in a heartbeat. Happens all the time.

AramisNight · 2020-07-15T18:49:16+00:00

In order for reality B to be correct, we would have no choice but to concede that women are so stupid and so far away from being the equal of men that it would be insulting to humanity to include them in any capacity, beyond being just another animal that humans exploit, just in this case for the purpose of sex and breeding.

Personally, i do not believe that this is the case. I just cannot accept that any human over the age of 12 can be this naive and ignorant of the reality they had bore witness to for such a long period of time. Selfishness is the Occam's razor to this question. Reality A simply lines up better with the idea that woman are humans.

Zippo-Cat · 2020-07-15T14:08:08+00:00

B, but minus all the victim complex bullshit

DissonanceBadger · 2020-07-15T14:59:17+00:00

View B. Everything I read about the female attraction mechanisms indicate that they are relationship oriented. View A is how men would behave if they were women.

devansh_ · 2020-07-15T17:53:54+00:00

I think you are describing exactly the same thing twice just the phrasing being different. The "Reality B" just assumes women are dumb and takes away their responsibility for their own sexuality and sexual agency...

If you think about it, Reality A is empowering for women. Maybe the Red Pill is asking men to be better and this will make more women happier..

Maybe women will have to work harder to get better too because men won't be pushovers anymore..

Taking responsibility for you own life and carrying the burden makes you happy..

rateofchang_e · 2020-07-15T18:14:31+00:00

Scenario A is an approximation of B. Humans on aggregate don't occupy discrete states, it is always a continuous distribution.

medlabunicorn · 2020-07-15T18:48:22+00:00

Mostly B, though there are a few women who follow A. Personally I was never interested in casual sex with anyone; it’s too dangerous for women, and I just don’t trust any men that much. I looked for a mate in an assortive cohort, but I’m a science major and was seriously into aikido for 15 years, so that cohort was pretty small. I’m also very feminist & wouldn’t tolerate guys who talked down to me or splained at me (that goes with the ‘safety’ issue.) And I don’t think I’m that unusual.

NarniaFox · 2020-07-15T14:32:23+00:00

I wonder how many women really do date specifically bad boys in their 20s?

https://flowingdata.com/2017/11/01/who-is-married-by-now/

At 25 a third of women is married already. It doesn't leave a lot of time to "cock carousel" or dating bad boys for fun and going for good ones later.

All in all, I think that both strategies can happen from time to time and there is a also place for different ones. Like people getting married early, people not being interested in marriage or LTRs at all etc.

OXOzymandias · 2020-07-15T14:13:06+00:00

A mix ?

lets not pretend girls didnt like her wild phase lmao, i didnt had to pursue hard sometimes, and i far to be an adonis, a lot of girls want to have fun....she wasnt a victim of aggressive pursuer....she rode with them and then matured....she didnt liked evrything about them....but they were fun enough to keep up with the bullshit

2020-07-15T17:16:59+00:00

My thing is this, men do this too. Like for “dual strategy” for guys it was the hot stud in hs/college but became fat/unhealthy, and constantly trying to relive their youth.

And there’s similar guys who were fucked over by messed-up/grimey women, but they learned from their mistake and realized they don’t want that. They focus on their career and health, and seek women who won’t take them for granted. So idk man, I cant say women only do this.

Willow-girl · 2020-07-15T17:17:05+00:00

Short answer, dual mating strategy. Because if "Chad" came along when she was married, she'd drop betabux Billy in a heartbeat to re-live the old days. This is especially true post kids, the marriage is taken for granted and there's too much monotony for her. She seeks to step outside the marriage and have it both ways. She'll keep fucking Chads and the husband is basically in the friend zone shouldering the financial and emotional burden.

Anthony-waltzs · 2020-07-15T14:17:50+00:00

The dual mating strategy, the reason I say this is because out of all my research into this, it confirms it 100%. I’ve watched videos about this stuff and read various books and they all confirm this to be true. In a video I watched a girl literally admitted it now obviously I know that she does not speak for all women but still this how the majority of “young” women think. Read sperm wars it is golden and very accurate.

The video proof https://youtu.be/_FjZ6QePmMA

Mimoxs · 2020-07-15T15:12:05+00:00

The second

Men use it as an excuse when it's convenient and deny it when it's inconvenient.

If you say you like certain types of men that differ from the awalt Chad picture: "you're just damaged by Chad and now you avoid them! Learned your lesson huh!!!"

If you say women have interactions with Chads and learn from negative experiences: "that's untrue women never learn! They'll keep chasing Chad no matter what!!'

Either women all get damaged and bitter and change or women all are incapable of changing their ways based on experience. Y'all gotta pick a narrative and be consistent with it

NinjaOfTheSouth · 2020-07-15T14:03:35+00:00

View B sounds more accurate.

SplushkaMcOwlFace · 2020-07-15T14:31:52+00:00

Most women have 1-3 long term relationships which fails due to lack of experience then find someone they are more compatible with. The majority of women don't sleep around with Chads because they understand all these fickboys are not suitable and should be avoided. The post talks about small percentage of promiscuous troubled women.

beyond98 · 2020-07-15T14:52:25+00:00

I think it depends on the girl. Some of them enjoy with "Chads" while they are young and gold-digs a "virgin dad" later (or even when they're young) and some of them goes through some partners and end up with the best one for the future knowing what she doesn't like

John_Smith_2020 · 2020-07-15T16:43:47+00:00

The second one. The first one sounds like an incels attempt to understand how women work without having ever spoken to a woman.

wtknight · 2020-07-15T14:15:54+00:00

It depends upon the quality of the woman, and her attitude towards sex. A higher value woman is more likely to employ a continuous strategy. She keeps dating guys that are fairly high quality. Sometimes they aren't compatible. Eventually she finds one whose personality and maturity level match her own and, at a certain age, they settle down.

Average to lower quality women who engage in quick sexual activity are more likely to Chad-chase and eventually have to settle with a man who is less optimal than the men who they could attract for sex. These women are doing the AF/BB type thing that RP describes.

Some women don't try to go for guys who are too far out of their league from the beginning, though. Higher women don't have to engage in it from the beginning. They know they can make a man wait for sex if they want. This is why higher-value women usually have lower N counts.

Average to lower quality women who don't engage in casual sex or quick sex are likely not attracting alphas from the beginning, so they don't employ AF/BB. They are content with a man who has enough alpha qualities for them to be satisfied, but who is still ultimately a beta.

So in short, it really depends upon a woman's quality and her attitudes towards "sexually gambling" when it comes to attracting a man how she approaches trying to attract a man. One can see women engaging in continuous strategies, AF/BB strategies, and "safe strategies". I don't think that one strategy predominates.

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wsomphalos · 2020-07-15T19:54:08+00:00

Both of these scenarios attribute a large measure of wisdom and introspection to women, which is not too common. I think both of these scenarios are somewhat accurate, but experienced mostly on the subconscious level by the participants...

GGMcThroway · 2020-07-15T22:22:44+00:00

B (if I have to choose one). Young people are dumb and ruled by hormones and all research in the world isn't going to completely prepare you for what it's actually like to be in a relationship. It's easy to ignore subtle red flags when you don't have first-hand experience on what those red flags will lead to. A teenager still living with their parents is going think fiscal responsibility and having a steady job is far less important than someone who's 30 will. Expecting a college kid of either gender to think of what their life with a partner will be like in 50 years is just stupid.

It makes sense to seek a partner with a lifestyle that matches yours when you're living completely independently without your parents to catch you after every fuck up. It makes sense to really look for someone who will pull their weight once you're the only one responsible for your own life. It's called growing up.

Willow-girl · 2020-07-16T15:25:14+00:00

Women aren't able to get the interest of the Chad memes like they used to, so "settle" for whatever dork had no success in the past, but still might be enamored enough to be settled for that he's willing to write a check against her.

I think this is male delusion. If anything, a woman who stays childfree and in relatively good shape has more options as she gets older, because so much of her competition will have taken itself out of the running! At 20, most women are pretty or at least cute. At 20, the field is crowded! At 30, a lot of women will be fat, saddled with kids and/or bitter over failed relationships. It is much easier to outshine your peers at 30.

The men I dated when I was young weren't different or better than the ones I dated in my 30s; in fact, I didn't marry a truly wealthy man until I was 40.

Young women just want to party and aren't vetting men seriously. Later, we want to settle down, so the stakes are much higher. Suddenly it matters if a guy has a steady job, etc.

raetaylor13 · 2020-07-15T22:15:45+00:00

As a 30 yo woman I find that the chad types never stop coming after you. I first married a beta male and we have split. Since then now I know more of what I want and don’t want in a man. I’m now interested in a mans personality and find myself going for guys i might not have been into before looks wise because his personality makes him so much more attractive.

Not sure about the women’s looks theory. I have not noticed any decline in male attention VS my 20s so I think that theory is off. I think it’s that many women stop caring for themselves after kids or as they age and that is why they stop being pursued.

2020-07-15T15:59:39+00:00

Women as a group don't have a single dating strategy.

Humans are very flexible. We do have trends but always a good number buck the trends.

This is even part of evolutionary theory, its not only our brains but our genetics can vary too. Its why things like psychopathy and sociopathy can remain, because they can be successful in small numbers even if a majority that way would be a negative trait.

(See the Blind Watchmaker for examples)

I met one woman in dating who would fit the dual mating type branch swinger AWALT, but only one. Everyone else were pretty stable long term types. Even when I was the potential other guy which was early in college, they were horny as hell, and I was trying to date them most resisted out of loyalty to their BF who was still at home or at a different school.

Now many of those relationships ended but they didn't end until they went home and said its not going to work long distance at 18, so basically we are talking serial monogamy.

Just like some men are players and will say/do anything to get laid and don't care about the women, some women are users and will only look to their advantage.

I don't think most are like that.

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Hannubal · 2020-07-15T15:42:54+00:00

I think it depends on what women we are talking about. Women who are insecure, and who lack a set of values, will employ Reality A. Women who are properly raised and posses self-respect, will most likely go through View B. Some of the latter might not even have an initial phase with bad-boys, but will wait until they find a high-quality man. It all depends on their character.

Title	Which more reflects reality when it comes to how women approach dating the so called dual mating strategy or the continuous phase strategy?
Author	DangZagnut
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Date	July 15, 2020 1:12 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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Reality A

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