Do women really have that many options ?

Bluetinfoilhat · 2021-10-04T23:54:00+00:00

I always found it funny when men say things like women in their 20s are lucky because everyone wants to fuck them. And I am thinking why should a 20 something girl be happy that a 55 year old wants to fuck her?? The men who say this are operating under a scarcity mindset, but when you start suggesting specific women you will realize they have age requirements, race requirements, weight requirements, etc.

littleboy91 · 2021-10-05T02:27:25+00:00

"It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife" ~ Alanis Morissette

Justscrolling133 · 2021-10-04T23:40:40+00:00

I think when guys talk and think about women having a plethora of guys they are only thinking about beautiful women, and barely recognise what life is like for women who aren’t drop dead gorgeous, but still good people. It’s almost like average looking women aren’t acknowledged in this rhetoric.

Of course I could be any guys human masterbation tool if I wanted to be. But after a few years of casual hook ups with good looking guys that don’t actually respect you, you learn that quality is FAR better than quantity.

Women value authenticity, respect, kindness, ambition and obviously they have to find them attractive. But I think women’s standards of attractive are a lot lower than guys so this fits a wide range of men. Finding a decent guys who pull their weight domestically and with emotional intelligence or empathy is few and far between.

So to answer your question, no.

atman714 · 2021-10-04T22:24:58+00:00

When most of my friends were men, I thought for sure men had it way more rough. But the more friends I made that were women, the more I realized both sides have a hard time. My one friend has been looking for a guy for a while. Every guy she's found either wanted her for sex, or ghosted her after a few days.

If you're an extremely attractive man or woman, you're just going to have more options. It's really that simple. A 10/10 man or woman is going to have unbelievably more options and more people into them then say a 6/10.

TheDrWinston · 2021-10-05T01:15:43+00:00

Attractive people have more options but are disappointed with the options they have.

women want commitment, but they don't want commitment from a guy they don't find attractive. Which tends to be everyone in their friend zone. And it's completely justified. If you don't want to date someone you see that way I'm all for it.

Most people who date strangers are going to be disappointed. Because they are only looking for sex. That's a risk.

There's a certain culture thing in the united States that friends are just unattractive. It's seen a lot in more conservative cultures. It's mostly girls who date in a primarily male friend circle. It really doesn't happen anywhere else.

Now it's usually a supply demand thing for attraction. Primarily female populations males have more luck. Vice versa.

What is a fallacy however is that women have men fawn all over them whenever they get the chance. No one knows how to ask each other out anymore.

BiWomanHealing · 2021-10-04T23:03:04+00:00

Here’s the thing, unless a woman is ugly, diseased or obese, it’s very easy for women to find a man who wants to put his penis inside us, or go on a first date. Which usually ends in him trying to have sex and ghosting immediately after.

It’s very, VERY difficult to encounter a man who truly respects us, wants to get to know us as people, will put effort and reciprocation into dating/courting us, and wants committed monogamy that will result in long term LTR/marriage. And that’s what I really want.

I am extremely, extremelyyyyy disinterested in being used as a penis sleeve so I avoid men like the plague. Even the men I did date, I had a horrible sinking feeling that I was kind of just interchangeable and being viewed as an object to be used (for companionship, support, sex, etc).

It’s stupid because since I was a little girl I wanted to partner in marriage and yes, i do consider my partners needs important and had sex regularly with the 2 boyfriends I’ve had. Marriage is the #1 correlate to regular sex for men. By being slaves to dopamine release (probably from brains rotten by porn), rather than delaying instant gratification by actually getting to know women as people and cultivating relationship, men actually decrease chances of sex rather than increase it.

softnmushy · 2021-10-04T22:10:59+00:00

When guys say "Women have tons of options", they really mean "The 10% most beautiful women have tons of options." The same thing could be said for men. The top 10% most handsome men have tons of options.

A major problem for most redpillers, and for most young guys, is that they are obsessed with dating women who are much more physically attractive than they are.

Many women have the same problem. If you find yourself asking "Why is that girl with that guy? He's a total jerk. Why won't she date me instead?" The most likely answer is: He is a lot cuter than you are.

Mriconicdev · 2021-10-04T21:04:15+00:00

Let’s make this clear. They have tons of options for sex, absolutely. They don’t however have many options for marriage with the men they want.

badsign12 · 2021-10-05T17:39:12+00:00

The relatively few women who want to have casual sex and find it rewarding typically have significantly more options than men like them. But that's not many women. A higher # of women may have a fling or two where they had no interest in the guy, but that doesn't mean much in terms of options.

Moderately attractive women interested in casual sex who enjoy it and who tend not to develop feelings have more options than moderately attractive men. More options in terms of #s and better options since better looking men will have sex with them if it's NSA.

That's not terribly meaningful to women who don't do casual sex, or women who do but tend to be disappointed. I'd estimate 7-8 out of 10 men have some interest in casual sex, and of the men who have casual sex, the vast majority enjoy the experience physically and emotionally (not much downside). I'd estimate 2-3 women out of 10 do casual sex, and of those who do a higher % aren't real big fans.

So all options are not equal.

Belatorius · 2021-10-06T05:49:32+00:00

From my experience, yes they have a good deal of options. Someone I was "friends" with was cute with a nice figure, but shy and awkward with a lot of baggage and mental issues. When ever she would reactivate her tinder account after a break up, she would easily get 50+ matches in less than a week. She shared how at one point she had 4 dates lined up back to back each day. Even had 2 on one day. In her profile she stated "no hook ups" but would occasionally let one sleep over and bang all night (her words). The next day she would nit pick and claim he wasn't dateable. She can get men easily but keeping them is an issue.

RedPillDetox · 2021-10-06T08:54:19+00:00

TRP is full of confused people. Women have "tons of options" yet only want the "top 20%" of men. So... all of the orbiters aren't really options to start with, the fact that they can allegedly go to a bar and scream "free pussy" and a bunch of guys come forward means nothing when the overwhelming majority of them are apparently unattractive. Yeah, i guess that in terms of casual sex is much easier, and they could potential get a guy that is "above her" in "SMV", but this is ignoring the fact that women DO NOT chase, nor like, nor want casual sex as much as men, and often regret it deeply.

Red pill in it's desperation to paint the world as a dark place ends up contradicting itself in their own just so stories. Women don't have those many options because, according to them, most men don't qualify as attractive and those who do just want to use them for sex, which they may not want.

Amazing_Wolverine_37 · 2021-10-04T23:35:03+00:00

Definitely problematic to be bombarded as men are more apt to play the numbers game anyway. I run out of patience when it's clear no one is reading my profile that has many signifiers that I'm damaged goods and/or hard to keep up with. Professional single mom. But I look like and am a lot of fun and have my stuff together. I understand that it's confusing.... but what I get back is usually the opposite of what I'm looking for.

theulysses · 2021-10-05T09:15:20+00:00

Two things came to mind as I read this:

An OK Cupid study found that the majority of women find 80% of men as below average in attractiveness. That means an 8 out of 10 male is worse-looking than medium. But then they go ahead and date them anyway. If they thought they could do better, and if their stock was so high, why would they do that? Because society overwhelmingly says a man’s value isn’t in his attractiveness, it’s in what he can provide. By this metric, sex isn’t the goal (duh), but instead it’s his ability to provide for her and her children (hypothetical or real).
An issue complicating and even disrupting this arrangement is that more and more women are rapidly becoming more financially successful, which of course is great, except for the fact that the societal norms and expectations are that if a man isn’t financially successful then he ain’t worth shit. His looks never matter so if he doesn’t have money then why on earth would a woman want anything to do with him? Even if a woman is more open minded and appreciated a man who may be less financially successful but has other wonderful qualities that woman will be constantly bombarded with messages in the media and from her friends and family that put that man’s value in question.

Therefore, the quantity of men that are viewed as being “worthy” of being partnered up with is greatly reduced. Unlike men who rate women’s attractiveness rather kindly along a bell curve, and who often care very little about a woman’s income, women rate men very harshly on looks and are finding it harder and harder to find men who make at least as much money as themselves.

I don’t know about you, but I’m seeing more and more women who are just going their own way.

delabris · 2021-10-05T14:44:21+00:00

If you take a set of twins. One a boy and one a girl.

By the time they are 18 that twin girl will have way more opportunities for love or romance then that boy will because she is not going to have to learn how to walk up to a group of men and learn how to socialize with them and escalate and seduce and sweet talk them into a relationship or sex or whatever

Don't get me wrong it does happen when the woman does lead sometimes and not every 18-year-old boy is just a lost cause but it's just that big of a difference and whether that is due to society or culture or biology really doesn't matter

I have a friend who was a female who even admitted this to me

Most men aren't judging women on criteria that takes years of hard work or study or skill

Women are judging men on that and they judgment as young as 16 on these type of things

That's why you have 18-year-old girls who are fresh out of high school expecting their man to have the money and skill set and experience of a 40 year old

So you can see how an 18 year old boys at a disadvantage because he's most likely isn't finished with school or a trade and has little money so he has very little to offer in the way of finding a woman

While a woman has to do is really just show up

Women of all different types of ages and backgrounds and body types will have it easier than the men who are their counterparts

bensanderson1992 · 2022-03-18T22:40:16+00:00

I never gonna believe that women have the same problems and issues when we talk about dating.I always see guys at work chasing that one girl who works there .I see guys texting to girls on dating sites every day and decent girls rejecting them.I see hopeless desperate guys everywhere .But honestly i dont see any sad women . I see women who gets too much attention.

Im verry sorry for my english but im from Poland and i still learn to speak english.

Pitiful-Ad-9080 · 2022-06-28T14:37:22+00:00

Yes, I don't know why this question keeps getting asked when multiple dating experiments have been done. All you have to is put "female" in a tinder bio with no pictures of anything but a wall and they'd be bombarded with messages. It's a shit show for men and easy pickings for women. That's why there are 79% of men on tinder and 21% of women are on there. Women can EASILLY get what they want and leave while the men stay there and suffer from not getting anything ever except bots, single moms and obese girls that think they're 9/10.

RateMe3456 · 2022-10-02T00:38:39+00:00

Yes, they live on just exist difficulty.

Environmental-Bid232 · 2023-04-06T06:38:17+00:00

It's the skewed sex-ratio.

IcyAd3260 · 2024-01-03T13:50:48+00:00

Women OWN the hookup/casual sex world that they have created the rules for. Even average looking women who “only” get 20-25 messages a week have it good compared to even decent looking guys who get 0 to 5 messages a week.Let’s see these women get the 0-5 messages a week and see their high horses disappearing. It’s a woman’s world now. No reason to complain.

IcyAd3260 · 2024-01-05T22:23:25+00:00

I would LOVE to have the options women complain about.

mercinarary · 2021-10-05T05:12:23+00:00

Coolio_Street_Racer · 2021-10-05T00:14:06+00:00

Yes girls do really have that many options. If your above a 5. The thing is women have much higher standards than men. Especially when it comes to hooking up. This might be symptomatic of alot of options or just inherent. I don't know. I'd imagine guys would be just as selective if the supply demand equation was skewed in men's direction.

Women complain about narrastic, demanding and uncompromising assholes. I know many men who have gladly settled for that given they get atleast some companionship.

It's not thier fault. Just the way the world is.

Puzzleheaded_Ad243 · 2021-10-05T04:22:25+00:00

Women can sleep with who they want, doesnt matter if they fat skinny old or young there is someone for everyone.. now the thing with women is that some women can sleep with just anyone without giving a fuck or catching feelings, is that normal no is not because they can only do it for so long unless they are cold a fuck and have no soul.. but in the real world a woman needs to feel something towards a man, like attraction, physically mentally spiritually or financially, any of these reasons will attract a woman to sleep with a dude.. women are emotional creatures and that will never change... now for us men we sleep with who we can... yes our frield of play is very small for a whole lotta men... yes there are men who got game looks charm etc and can sleep with whoever they want.. but thats a very small %.. women arent made to play the field like us men do.. we dont put our emotions in the forefront... but yes there are some men that are emotional and will go all out to attract a woman when that woman doesnt want them... life is crazy and weird

AbuJavascript · 2021-10-05T04:34:22+00:00

More women these days are chasing the top 1% of attractive men, and ignoring the men who before social media would have been considered in their league. This leads more average men to be thirsty, and they shower these women with more social media attention, which further turns off these women from these men. It's a vicious cycle where it ends up being that almost everyone is alone.

thetruthishere_ · 2021-10-05T01:17:45+00:00

Many options for sex only not actual compatibility for a healthy long term relationship. This part is not easy on either side.

Even a 'Chad' that wants to find a long term can meet 40 women and only one may fit.

I can have 40 men after me and only one fits. Doesn't make ones you met bad either, again they just dont fit. 'Fitting' as in life goals, who wants children, personality, habits, etc, etc.

This doesn't mean 'pickey-too high of standards', etc,(sure some out there are) we just don't fit with everyone. Period.

XihuanNi-6784 · 2021-10-05T17:27:31+00:00

Also, random one night stands are often physically dangerous for women and sexually frustrating. Going out with just any random guy can be dangerous if you haven't had a chance to gauge his temperament. And sexual compatibility is much more important for most women. It take 5-6 years (can't remember exactly) on average for a woman to have her first orgasm, and some women never do. This is definitely not the case for men. While men's ability to be satisfied is often overstatd, the relative difference is still very great.

Edit: Given that trade off, it's simply not worth it for women to just have sex whenever they want because most of the opportunities aren't going to be worth it.

Least_Whole427 · 2021-10-06T07:55:22+00:00

Yes there are an endless supply of men interested in you of all ages and from all walks of life…99% are misogynistic, lack empathy, and are selfish. Having a tonne of options is the reality for women but it is also a detriment as it means weeding through and wasting our time with terrible men who manipulate or pose as decent long enough to hook you in. Men might feel their issue is too few options but for women the problem is the opposite and it is 100% a problem.

Kurved420 · 2021-10-07T17:50:23+00:00

Woman get cummed inside by several dudes. That disgust me.

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-10-07T20:39:44+00:00

Shycel · 2021-10-09T02:13:33+00:00

Yes

U just have to post "im a girl" on a random sub to get tons of dms

OnionAffectionate641 · 2021-10-04T23:26:20+00:00

cabsmom2020 · 2021-10-05T12:06:24+00:00

I think most women can find sex super easy. I'm 52, average looking and I'm hit on quite a bit. Some are my age, but often it's younger... way younger. Now I'm no fool, most the young ones ONLY want sex. In reality, a lot of times women only get hit up for sex. NOT all men and not all the time.

So, it's a conundrum if a woman wants a relationship. While it's flattering, maybe it's not. Why? Because it's often said men will fuck just about anyone. Again, not all men... maybe not even most, but women are told that. SO, how do we know if he's really attracted to who we are and what we look like versus just wanting a real vagina after doing sex solo for a long time or something?

AutoModerator · 2021-10-05T14:03:27+00:00

This is not a simple and clear subject. I have four very attractive female friends and 3 of them are single, one since few years and another never been in relationship. All of them are fantastic and great women with empathy and strong feminine nature, If I would ever have chance to be with them, I wouldn't hesitate. Unfortunately they are struggling to find stable partnership and first of the fine men, who will love them. They are not polygamous, they want one men in their life to marry and be with for rest of their lives, but they do struggle despite their both physical atractiveness and inteligence. Worth to mention all of them are at the end of their 20's or in 40's and in our strange and odd male-ish sphere women near and after 30 are not attractive anymore. Redpill also throw bold statements, how being with woman in her 30's will ruin your life.

Title	Do women really have that many options ?
Author	meteorness123
Upvotes	61
Comments	210
Date	October 4, 2021 9:01 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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