Backlash against Emma Watson’s “problematic” comments on feminism

Lethn · 2015-09-30T14:29:56+00:00

Ohhh, Ohh this is funny, she acted like she cared about men before and now it's backfiring badly on her because she didn't cater enough to the feminists. She's going to find out about the feminazi's soon enough once they go to town and start protesting places she visits or try to harass her on twitter.

Yeah, I don't blame you guys for not having sympathy for people like this who say such things, I've been the same way about John Oliver now. If you start ranting about white men and try to act as if they do all evil in the world you lose my respect a lot.

brokedown · 2015-09-30T14:22:52+00:00

It's always amusing to watch feminists eat their own. After the whole "it's up to men to solve women's problems" rant last year I'm having trouble feeling sorry for her.

GoHoMoThrow · 2015-09-30T14:06:45+00:00

Remember, the core tenet of feminism is that all men belong to the patriarchy, so as members of the oppressor class they can never understand the oppressed, vouch for them, speak for them or do anything meaningful except sit in the back, be quiet, do everything they're told, feel bad and guilty and sorry and give money and perks and reparations to people just for having vaginas.

She has broken a major, MAJOR commandment in the tenets of the feminist faith.

DavidByron2 · 2015-09-30T15:45:13+00:00

Feminists love to eat their own.

Dunkcity239 · 2015-09-30T14:55:46+00:00

What does "problematic" even mean?

TracyMorganFreeman · 2015-09-30T15:51:21+00:00

This is what you get when feminism isn't a monolith: everyone arguing that their feminism is the right one.

It's like a damn religion.

Electroverted · 2015-09-30T17:40:29+00:00

Poor Emma, bouncing all over the place. First she wants men to be included in Feminism. Then she wants men to solve Feminism. Now she wants women to own up to their discriminations. Someone send her a #Meninist shirt!

libbylibertarian · 2015-09-30T17:28:36+00:00

“The more I’ve spoken about feminism, the more I have realised that fighting for women’s rights has too often become synonymous with man-hating. If there is one thing I know for certain, it is that this has to stop,” she said in the speech.

Emma Watson is not part of the 3rd wave. Clearly there are those who would like her to embrace the manhating, but she appears to be above the fray. Hopefully, she will stand her ground as the reproachment continues.

deadite_on_reddit · 2015-09-30T19:37:44+00:00

"Emma Watson's views shouldn't be considered feminism, anything that questions black women and seeks male approval is NOT feminism"

Wow.

scoorps · 2015-09-30T18:25:54+00:00

This is the same Emma Watson who said- in front of the fucking UN- that men don't need to be macho aggressive masculine males, but also confessed to some celebrity gossip rag that she'd probably not date British men because they were too reserved and quiet.

dashing_nash · 2015-09-30T19:28:45+00:00

I actually think she's kinda interesting .. Right, hear me out. I imagine this is a girl who spent her childhood surrounded by "yes men" her privilege level is through the roof .

She has no idea about real life and real issues. Or the lives of normal people. But she has some heart and picks( wrongly) what she thinks is a worthy cause- western feminism.

So she stands on a UN stage spouts some " he4she " bs and everyone claps . Further endorsing her delusions . I'm kinda wondering if the penny will ever drop for her. She's clearly not super intelligent .. But I don't think she's coming from a place of hatred

cymrich · 2015-09-30T18:15:49+00:00

white feminism... lol... should have seen that coming!

chocoboat · 2015-09-30T16:33:03+00:00

Feminism rejects Emma Watson because she refuses to treat men as worthless inferiors.

But feminism is about equality, guys! It's right there in the dictionary!

And how dare she recognize that sometimes women discriminate against women? Sure there are millions of women out there trying to ban abortion and who would never vote for a female politician, but she shouldn't be mentioning anything that puts the blame on someone other than evil, evil men!

GTCtry_another · 2015-09-30T18:28:52+00:00

The word "problematic" always makes me laugh these days. Because it's always a complete joke when it's used.

And lol @ "white feminism" now being synonymous with "disagreement with me by another feminist". That's apparently not problematic.

compuwiza1 · 2015-09-30T19:03:22+00:00

H.L. Mencken observed that a mysogynist is a man who hates women almost as much as they hate each other. Emma Watson has made a similar observation.

caketastydelish · 2015-09-30T23:15:09+00:00

What I love about her "fellow feminist critics" is that they're mad at her for daring to say "men count too". She's working so hard to destroy the 'man hating' reputation that feminism has (and indeed she nearly had me convinced) but then the rest of the feminist community lambastes her for actually doing the right thing.

HotZone_ · 2015-09-30T14:05:59+00:00

The stupid. It hurts.

Mitthrawnuruodo1337 · 2015-09-30T20:38:33+00:00

WHY DOES EMMA WATSON ALWAYS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT MEN, SHE SPENDS ALL HER TIME CATERING TO MALE FEMINISTS

Yes... that was the whole point of HeForShe, to try to appease men who were noticing that feminism seemed completely misandric, and appeal to them to stay White Knights regardless of that. At some point she must have realized it might help get more knights if they maybe toned down the hatred a bit.

Well, good luck, Emma, this is what happens when you question the narrative... even if you are doing it ultimately to try to build the narrative.

EliCaaash · 2015-09-30T17:49:14+00:00

The thing about Watson is, she never spoke for feminists, she has no fucking idea what feminism is. She never did! All that

For the record, feminism by definition is: “The belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities..."

was only tolerated because it gave them a good soundbite to shut up anti-feminists in debates. They hated that speech, but they tolerated it because Watson got so much praise over it and most of them weren't stupid enough to show themselves up over it.

But here's the thing, Watson never spoke for feminists. She's a fucking uber-celebrity on a power-trip stoking her ego by claiming to speak for a group she doesn't understand, at all. If she keeps this up she's going to ruin her long term career by becoming divisive and toxic. The backlash is already beginning and it serves the idiot right.

Lrellok · 2015-09-30T17:43:54+00:00

~The sound of snakes devouring their own tails~

ShutupPussy · 2015-09-30T17:59:32+00:00

“The more I’ve spoken about feminism, the more I have realised that fighting for women’s rights has too often become synonymous with man-hating. If there is one thing I know for certain, it is that this has to stop,” she said in the speech.

If there has to be a global feminism ambassador, im glad it's her over the countless other true misandrists.

dangerousopinions · 2015-09-30T20:35:27+00:00

"white feminism" was coined like a month ago and its already blindly accepted by these sheep.

_____Chris · 2015-09-30T23:08:12+00:00

The problem with this video is that we did not hear Watson saying anything. This is so common in the media. We are expected to interpret the voice-over as a journalistic report. However, this format does not provide any context from Watson whatsoever. Further, the voice-over is the one framing the story and creating the context. Not that it may not be correct, but we really do not know from the report. We are expected to just believe.

The report did say that, "discrepancies of gender equality exist in all factions of American society". Yep, intelligent people already know this, and the ones paying attention know that women are just as guilty of sex role stereotyping as men. The real and persistent message here is that we rarely hear the inverse and most feminists still refuse to acknowledge their role in sexism. The ones that have typically no longer identify as feminist.

Not much of a any importance in this story other than its subtle contribution to the immaturity that continues to plaque society.

rudelyinterrupts · 2015-09-30T17:48:47+00:00

Welcome to the fold Emma. You start out with good intentions and false information, but in the end you must conform or be disposed of.

thebard2000 · 2015-10-01T00:38:47+00:00

Remember the story about "The Farmer and The Viper"?

Well, Emma, you knew they were vipers. So don't be surprised if they bite.

romulusnr · 2015-10-01T01:07:54+00:00

“Some women can be incredibly prejudiced against other women.”

Been saying this for years. I suggest that quite an awful lot of what is termed misogyny is instigated by other women, and only picked up on by men secondhand. Just take Ayn Rand's insufficiently famous "a woman could never be president" quote, or Mrs. Tim LaHaye (he of Left Behind fame)'s Concerned Women for America, which encourages women to eschew careers and stay home and be good wives and moms (never mind that she runs said organization). Or how about this choice list of things moms say to other moms. Or why 66% of corporate HR professionals are female, but this hasn't corresponded to anything close to a 66% rate of female candidates (candidates, not even hires) put forward for other job functions. And let's not forget Pao v. Taylor.

nrb1985 · 2015-10-01T04:32:31+00:00

So feminists aren't real feminists if they're white now? What's all this "white feminist" nonsense?

FFXIV_Machinist · 2015-09-30T20:34:39+00:00

“The more I’ve spoken about feminism, the more I have realised that fighting for women’s rights has too often become synonymous with man-hating. If there is one thing I know for certain, it is that this has to stop,” she said in the speech.

Dear god watson. Please stop. I can only get so errect.

killer3james · 2015-09-30T17:42:46+00:00

The thing is, it's not anti-women to have more men in a certain job. If a man can do a job better than a woman - they deserve the job; and vice versa.

It's stupid trying to make job roles 50/50 gender split, if you're not employing the best people for the job.

Imnotmrabut · 2015-09-30T22:21:20+00:00

It has ever been thus! The revolutionary she cats eat their own.

jimmywiddle · 2015-09-30T22:33:19+00:00

Love it, it was only a matter of time.

BamaFan87 · 2015-10-01T02:19:21+00:00

The fuck is a "white feminist" and why are these feminazis being racist as well as sexist toward Emma?

Drakaris · 2015-10-01T13:28:45+00:00

Feminism is becoming more and more like a religion. There are over 41,000 christian denominations and they disagree with each other on pretty much everything. And each and every one of them claim they're the "true christians". Absolutely the same shit is happening with feminism. Classic no true Scotsman...

Leinadro · 2015-09-30T18:30:10+00:00

I kinda feel sorry for her.

That speech she did at the UN last year was pretty good. It, unlike most feminist speech, directly spoke to how men were oppressed.

What bothered me was that her speech was used to advertise for the HeForShe campaign which was absolutely silent on acknowledging male oppression.

It was a textbook example of a bait and switch.

chasemyers · 2015-09-30T20:20:16+00:00

I wish she'd get naked on film, already.

Xeroith · 2015-09-30T23:43:29+00:00

...the fuck does feminism have to do with equality again?

2015-09-30T21:12:08+00:00

Wow the amount of racism there was unexpected and disturbing.

TheDude41 · 2015-10-01T03:24:49+00:00

Chivalry is shit.

White knights need to shut up and get lost.

Kyrile · 2015-09-30T21:23:09+00:00

Id still fuck her.

IMR800X · 2015-09-30T20:36:10+00:00

People still care what people who are only paid to look pretty and play pretend actually think?

Next we'll be getting financial advice from preschoolers.

ithinkmynameismoose · 2015-10-01T01:22:22+00:00

I think this is a good thing. Maybe she'll see the damaging toxic effects of the main body of what she has been promoting.

Vanriel · 2015-10-01T08:24:59+00:00

Thing is she is damn attractive and then she opens her mouth and talks about feminism and she loses all appeal.

MrDoradus · 2015-09-30T14:36:41+00:00

Though I know it's terribly wrong, I must admit that I find it a bit karmic for such "early stage feminists", who know little about how radical feminism has become, experience such a strong and delusional backlash from the people "they're fighting for". I hope this opens her eyes a little to the ever increasing problem that is third-wave feminism.

I know she earns less money than her male co-stars and experiences sexism on a daily basis, but Hollywood is one of the most corrupted, supply-demand oriented industry in the world, so let's not over-generalise her experiences. And not to mention that once the big executives think the audience want to see you, they'll pay you a lot more miss Watson, regardless of the gender you identify yourself as. It's as simple as that.

BrianPurkiss · 2015-09-30T15:23:43+00:00

Cool.

Sounds like she's an equality feminist, not an special treatment feminist.

Koalachan · 2015-09-30T23:06:38+00:00

The irony that every one of those comments prove what she is saying...

Title	Backlash against Emma Watson’s “problematic” comments on feminism
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