"Creepy"

OThomson · 2012-11-05T16:49:34+00:00

"More women died in domestic violence cases in the last five years than all of World War I"

Actually offended now.

nigglereddit · 2012-11-05T17:39:13+00:00

I hear you, man.

This comment requires a little self-aggrandizing on my part, which I apologise for in advance, but should hopefully support your point and show the flip side.

When I was younger, I lived with a lawyer. I once asked him what the rule of thumb was in the law community about how to determine what constituted sexual harassment in the workplace. He answered, "Easy. If she's attracted to him, it's not sexual harassment. If not, then it is".

I laughed. What nonsense. How could this be true?

But as time went by, I became more and more aware of the depth of truth within this. I'm six foot four, I'm an artist and designer, I'm a rock climber and mountaineer in my spare time and I was a photographic model. By most standards I was very attractive (sorry about this, I'm not comfortable with it either. Bear with me).

As a younger man, my behaviour was not good. I worked in an office with 35 women and 4 men, and I milked the situation outrageously. I did and said things with the women there which I now find repugnant and I'm quite ashamed of. But in every single case, it was laughed off as flirting, fun and office games. And not only was I never reported or even accused for any of the things I did - things I know for a fact other men have lost their jobs and even been jailed for - the women there lapped it up and bagged for more. In fact if anything their behaviour was every bit as bad as mine.

It bothers me that the fear-mongering and culture of blame isn't uniform or even real. It's a way of handing ludicrous levels of power to women, so much so that they're actually able to have one man punished by the law for something they'd actually welcome from another.

That's not right.

ErasmusMRA · 2012-11-05T16:30:05+00:00

Once I was actually reported as "harassing" two girls(by the girls) when all I did was sit down and read my kindle. In fact, they got there after I had sat down, and this resulted in my getting tossed off my bus and being forced to walk home, and I don't actually lame the female individuals that do this, but instead the feminists who keep telling them that "guys like me" are terrible rapists and oppressors.

Both are to blame. Don't fall for the feminist claims that women are like leaves in the wind with no free will of their own. We are all accountable for our actions. We must be, or society falls apart.

Why do feminists like to fear-monger so much, and why do they tie people they don't find attractive together with potential rapists?

This is the handiwork of feminism.

blueoak9 · 2012-11-05T16:30:26+00:00

Women's victim status is the primary power behind feminism, and feminists exploit it as much as they can.

Hamakua · 2012-11-05T16:47:50+00:00

"More women died in domestic violence cases in the last five years than all of World War I" is a one such joke.

AHHHHHHHHHHHH!

IsADragon · 2012-11-05T17:25:04+00:00

I was walking home from college the other night at ten o clock and it was dark out. When I walk I always power walk quite fast. On my way I happened to approach a woman who was power walking slower then me. When I passed by her she obviously didn't expect me to over take her and screamed and backed up against the wall when I was passing by her. Made me feel really awkward and I quickly continued walking on and gave her a strange look. Scared the crap out of me. I look about as threatening as this guy. It's just dumb that people are getting this scared over passing by people in the street and the entire culture of it reeks of paranoia.

Peil · 2012-11-05T20:51:24+00:00

I thought this was going to be about the overuse of the word creepy by so so many girls. You talk to a girl you don't know? Creepy. Tell a dirty joke? Oh ho, that is really creepy. And you asked a girl out who's "out of your league" creep alarms going off everywhere. Men aren't threatening. It takes some scary motherfucker to put the chills up me and even then how many of them are actually dangerous?

QueSeraSerape · 2012-11-05T17:28:48+00:00

I was at a small party a while back. We were all really drunk and having fun. One of the girls had too much to drink and began throwing up. A little later i thought i would go upstairs to check if she was alright, and i over heard her talking to two other girls. She kept saying "please i don't want to get raped, make sure the guys stay away from me!" I was offended because she has known all of the guys there for at least a year. There was absolutely no reason to think any of us would do such a horrible thing, but she was convinced that all of us wanted to take advantage of her.

Kuato2012 · 2012-11-05T18:40:25+00:00

You got accused of harassment and kicked off a bus for reading a Kindle? Surely there was more to it than that. If there wasn't, you really ought to have stood up for yourself.

unkleman · 2012-11-05T16:36:51+00:00

It is their way of exerting control and bullying you around. Feminism is completely entrenched in education and first of all they teach fear. Any good propagandist does the same, but they are preying on them during their formative educations. The next step is they give them power over you in college. They hit you and you go to jail. They don't want to sit next to you, you get kicked off the bus. They have all the power with how they classify any consentual relationship. The only thing that has changed from the days where a black kid caught whistling in the presence of a female sludge end in a hanging are their tactics.

Feminism is a toxic ideology, and they are following the traditional paths of indoctrination demogouges have been using for the past century. You are at ground zero of basic training for their storm trooper shock troops. The choice between a forced reeducation process or jail is just one pissed of female making a call to ruin your life away.

DavidByron · 2012-11-06T01:03:44+00:00

Why do feminists like to fear-monger so much

Stereotyping the hated minority group as a threat is one of the key aspects of hate movements. If the hated group is a threat then it feels OK to hate them.

Synackaon · 2012-11-05T18:45:13+00:00

Last week I was walking home and a police officer stopped me and told me to 'stop skulking around' the neighborhood as I was going to school.

Is it wrong that I think one needs a camera on them just to tell the police officer to fuck off? You never know if you're suddenly going to wind up dead with a cop that claims something outrageous to the slavish, cocksucking adulation of the general public...

rightsbot · 2012-11-05T16:20:19+00:00

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2012-11-05T20:42:53+00:00

It's interesting how much everything has to do with looks, rather than reality and personality. I'm a short, blonde, neotenous guy who has seen an awful lot of that in practice, but have never been subjected to it despite a number of things which should have lead to it.

Once I was at a party with a few friends, friends of friends, randoms, and a... Fuck buddy I guess? I grabbed her by the ankles and dragged her into a bedroom mid sentence. Lots of people saw, and that should easily have ended poorly - it ended up with a few more women interested in me though.

Conversely, a friend of mine who is larger than I was called creepy all the time, despite having a girlfriend, despite no interest in the women claiming he was, despite a lack of "creepy" actions... He was just part of the same group.

Perhaps it's just me, but that doesn't seem so different from the stereotypes and behaviors of racists.

johnnybigoode · 2012-11-05T19:43:42+00:00

Thank you all so very much for the comments and support. Basically I have the unfortunate luck of looking like the rapist from The Girl With THe Dragon Tattoo, so I get treated this way frequently. Hell, when I watched the movie in theatres I was given sour looks upon leaving.

DavidTheWin · 2012-11-05T18:26:04+00:00

More women died in domestic violence cases in the last five years than all of World War I

Even if taken to mean that there were more female fatalities due to DV than female fatalities due to WWI then they might be closer, but I'd wager that the statistic is still wrong.

2012-11-05T22:34:20+00:00

Why do feminists like to fear-monger so much, and why do they tie people they don't find attractive together with potential rapists?

Simple. They want the justify their dislike of the person for whatever reason and a blanket "he looks like a rapist" is the perfect way to do that. It's the same reason some males call scantily-clad females "sluts". It's a validation tactic.

DerickBurton · 2012-11-05T22:39:29+00:00

I've had girls tell me to stop being aggressive when all I am doing is arguing. It used to really piss me off but now I just tell them to stop being overly emotional before informing them that yes, I too can use gendered stereotypes.

phukka · 2012-11-05T22:56:10+00:00

But I think all of this endless fearmongering has a negative effect on the women in the world. I mean constantly telling women over and over again that they're going to get raped and murdered tends to fuck with their heads, right? I

Go to 2x. That's all it is. They have several 1k+ upvoted posts by other women saying the same thing as you.

OThomson · 2012-11-05T16:49:30+00:00

I don't think it's really feminism that's causing this culture of fear. None of the feminists (that I know) are angry bull dykes who blame men for all their ills. I think it's the fear culture perpetuating itself. Feminism isn't hatred of men, it's support for the equal treatment of women. On the other hand, propagandizing rape and domestic abuse is having the same effect as the DARE program. It's creating a culture of fear on unfounded principles and basically accomplishing nothing except driving people away from each other.

/my$0.02

livemansleeping · 2012-11-05T19:04:15+00:00

Treat a man like a monster long enough and eventually you'll have one. If your already being punished for it, wouldn't it make sense to at least deserve it? go get some poon.

Title	"Creepy"
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Upvotes	92
Comments	168
Date	November 5, 2012 4:19 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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