Scientists conducting the world’s largest study of sex differences in the brain have found that men and women think differently. Men and women are different. They have different skills. They are biologically attracted to different jobs. Deal with it.

merton1111 · 2018-11-14T09:24:44+00:00

I think the best way to debate regarding sexism, is to ask if the other party believe in biological differences, if yes which one. Same with nurture. Then go on to discuss lack of parity in STEM & wage gap.

Accepting whatever conclusion in the first step, we apply the same to suicide, prison population, justice system, etc.

I think we are more likely to get empathy to our problems that way than try to impose our beliefs (regardless of evidence) off the bat.

Ex0tictoxic · 2018-11-14T07:52:19+00:00

I saw Sky News (British news outlet) discussing this study on TV yesterday evening. The leader of some Feminist group, and I remember it clearly said that 'these kind of studies invoke prejudice'. Guess Science is anti feminist now.

GingerRazz · 2018-11-14T06:33:35+00:00

It makes me sad that this is a contraversial statement and not common sense. Change my mind. I dare you.

warcroft · 2018-11-14T06:41:08+00:00

Cross post to r/science and see if you get banned.

nforne · 2018-11-14T06:38:04+00:00

Horse's mouth:

https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/over-half-a-million-people-take-part-in-largest-ever-study-of-psychological-sex-differences-and

2018-11-14T06:53:26+00:00

Scientists also discover that water is wet.

mikeK998 · 2018-11-14T06:45:24+00:00

Blasphemous patriarchy propaganda, as ridiculous as saying the earth is over 6000 year old!

chambertlo · 2018-11-14T06:46:36+00:00

It’s almost like men and women ARE different based on biological reasons and not “social constructs”. Imagine my shock and surprise.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2018-11-14T15:16:21+00:00

But how can that be? A bunch of non scientists declared the opposite after consulting their favorite blogs...

coyotefleas · 2018-11-14T06:44:31+00:00

Baffling that people really think all differences are social constructs. I see the differences being reinforced by social structures in feedback loops.

turbophaser · 2018-11-14T07:34:20+00:00

Haven’t you heard? Biology is a social construct now since confirmation from actual scientists confirm that men and women are different.

merton1111 · 2018-11-14T09:02:51+00:00

Everyone should be treated uniquely based on who they are, not to which group they belong.

marcuzt · 2018-11-14T13:35:25+00:00

I find it interesting. I will not discuss the article nor the science behind it, but I would like to mention some thoughts on what the difference is.

I believe that we are all people, the same species. We are much more a like than we are different. But if we make a difference between men and women we see that women tend to be a bit more emotional on average and men a bit more rational. This is then enforced by thousands of years of civilization. This does not mean that men can only do "hard" jobs and women do "soft" jobs. But it does mean that people that have stronger emotions than average might seek out a job where it is good to have stronger than average, it is quite logical. The main issue I see with the phenomena is the resulting bias, where "ALL WOMEN" are seen as more emotional than "ALL MEN". I have seen (I know it is anecdotal evidence, so not a strong foundation for an assumption) men being very emotional and women being very logical. If I need a nurse to care for me at a hospital I do not care for a specific gender, I want someone with empathy (and I have met many women that lacks in empathy).

mensmod · 2018-11-14T14:55:16+00:00

The important thing to remember, when it comes to rights, is that while the genders have biological differences, these should not be used to restrict the behaviours of anyone. If a woman wants to be in STEM, or a man wants to be a nurse, there should be no societal barriers to those choices.

After that, if there are differences in the outcomes of the genders - so long as there are no social or institutional barriers influencing those outcomes - so be it.

poulty1234 · 2018-11-14T08:56:41+00:00

I'd just like to point out that this title could be misleading. They did find that men and women have differing levels of systematic and empathetic abilities, and that people in STEM fields are more representative of male characteristics and the opposite for non-STEM fields.

However they, in the article, state that they did not examine what caused the difference and said it could be biological, or caused by external factors like your growing environment, so stating that the difference is just biological discredits the point that the authors are trying to make which is purely that the difference exists. Different systematic/empathetic levels could be because of current societal factors not gender, and more male characteristics in STEM could be because there currently are more males in STEM, not that STEM attracts male characteristics.

Alguyaeda · 2018-11-14T07:12:27+00:00

Its almost as if the whole biology of men is based around protecting their young and mate, while the biology of females since we were apes is to nurture their young and pick the best fit for a parent in their mate

MussieGangEnrichment · 2018-11-14T18:22:07+00:00

His name was James Damore.

eclectro · 2018-11-14T08:47:41+00:00

As if this was a bad thing.

slawo1605 · 2018-11-14T15:54:09+00:00

World largest scientific study to confirm something which monkey-man humans knew 500000 years ago

janglang · 2018-11-14T13:30:37+00:00

It would be nice to be able to read the whole article but I'm not about to sign up for a "free trial"...

thecinnaman123 · 2018-11-14T14:10:29+00:00

I don't think that many people think that we aren't sexually dimorphic, even on a brain chemistry level. The problem is that no one (or close to it) is going to have every single typical male or female (respecitvely) natural inclination. Allowing for that variation, even when someone has highly atypical inclination for their sex seems just as important as, if not more important than, acknowledging that we are sexually dimorphic - one is intuitive, but the other can be liberating.

v573v · 2018-11-14T14:30:13+00:00

The much-maligned but longstanding idea that women enjoy discussing their emotions while men are mostly excited by cars may be true after all.

Here let me gender equalize that for them:

The much-maligned but longstanding idea that women are hysterical while men are mostly excited by cars may be true after all.

If they are going to be assholes is it too much to ask for them to be gender balanced assholes?

seeking101 · 2018-11-14T12:54:38+00:00

2018 and we need a study to figure out what we as a species knew for literally thousands of years

100mimi · 2018-11-14T07:46:02+00:00

Hence why gender isn't a state of mind either.

stiofan_io · 2018-11-14T08:34:02+00:00

It's like trying to explain to ISIS that we're all human and it's best we try to get along.

Feminists are simply crazy.

wave_327 · 2018-11-14T13:53:22+00:00

The fact that you had to editorialize the title, and end it off with a definitive "deal with it", just shows how immature you and some others on the sub actually are.

You can present evidence without snark.

You can argue without resorting to emotional appeal.

All you are doing is polarizing this sub further to the extreme. And yet this sub aspires to represent the "mainstream". Well you will never be mainstream if you continue to be as snarky as, by sheer coincidence, alt-right subs on this site.

stormitwa · 2018-11-14T09:46:01+00:00

Can someone be a totla legend and post this to a more mainstream subreddit and see what happens? I would, if I could use reddit better than on a 1st grade level.

curiosityrover4477 · 2018-11-14T13:32:44+00:00

I've never seen any women or even feminist say men and women are not biologically different, what's you point exactly ?

JackFisherBooks · 2018-11-14T14:16:40+00:00

Studying brains is tricky. Brains, by their own function, are complex and varied. The notion that any ideology attempts to generalize or shape how our collective brains function is laughable. But what worries me is that there will be ideologues who see this study, refuse to accept it, and try even harder to force it. It's akin to those who refuse to believe homosexuality is natural and keep trying to force it away. It only does more damage and hurts more people in the process.

2018-11-14T17:30:08+00:00

SQUEEEE!

Alpaca64 · 2018-11-14T21:15:22+00:00

Do you have another link to the article? It isn't working for me

TheRealVordox · 2018-11-14T21:45:12+00:00

Different, but that shouldn't stop you from doing what you like doing.

If you're a woman and love cars, go ahead.
if you're a man who loves nursing, go for it.

Knowing it and still doing opposite of what generalization tells you doesn't mean you're weird. You're just you.

PandaSixx · 2018-11-14T22:14:19+00:00

Interesting and all, but has anybody actually got a link to the study? Given the articles are behind a paywall, I can't even verify what they're talking about.

1LegendaryWombat · 2018-11-14T23:48:13+00:00

This is another in a long line of these studies, their conclusions are all the same, can we say its true already?

Razorbladekandyfan · 2018-11-15T10:52:59+00:00

Thats why they are treated differently. Women being treated better and all.

krypt_o · 2018-11-14T13:02:22+00:00

Really sad we need a study for this. Even sadder those on the left will refuse and refute it.

ShUtUpAnDdAnCe0857 · 2018-11-14T13:37:11+00:00

This finding is trying to rape me!

kms2547 · 2018-11-14T15:11:06+00:00

What does this have to do with men's rights?

NoobifiedSpartan · 2018-11-14T17:53:50+00:00

I don’t have to be a scientist to tell you this.

JT_PooFace · 2018-11-14T19:23:50+00:00

Bigots... /s

mrBatata · 2018-11-14T20:21:00+00:00

Rain is wet... Back to you John

KarmaOrDiscussion · 2018-11-14T20:29:11+00:00

How do you conduct that they are "biologically attracted to different jobs"? It's known that children under the age of 3 don't favour any "gendered" toys over other, but parents project that unto the child. It's only at the age of 3+ that they start to be interested in specific things. This asks the question, does some biological thing kick in at that stage of development, or does the parent's projection in the first 3 years affect it? Or is it a combination of both?

JohnDoeV6 · 2018-11-14T16:29:00+00:00

Wasn’t this suppose to be about men’s rights? I see a lot of hatred towards women. Men and women are different but I see a lot of hate in this sub, just cause they are different doesn’t mean you have to hate them. So much hate and antagonism, either cultural or stemming from insecurities.

KazarakOfKar · 2018-11-14T14:28:15+00:00

Oy boy more "hate facts", here we go.

blette · 2018-11-14T09:07:37+00:00

Let's face it, you're only agreeing with this article because it says something you like.

In reality it's just another of the "muh scientists!" articles that are completely worthless.

RolfMjau · 2018-11-14T11:45:09+00:00

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is_not_a_robcop · 2018-11-15T17:43:52+00:00

I gather you didn't read the paper or abstract. It says in the title of the study that they look at psychological differences, not biological. The origin of these traits isn't investigated and can't be said to be an essential part of manhood or womanhood, or to stem from the sex of the individual. Going further and concluding that this study determines the appropriateness of a man or a woman for a job position is straight up ridiculous, and partisan.

I would avoid citing research if you don't know what it means.

Also, to note:

"In the paper, the authors discuss how it is important to bear in mind that differences observed in this study apply only to group averages, not to individuals. They underline that these data say nothing about an individual based on their gender, autism diagnosis, or occupation. To do that would constitute stereotyping and discrimination, which the authors strongly oppose.

Further, the authors reiterate that the two theories are applicable to only two dimensions of typical sex differences: empathy and systemizing. They do not apply to all sex differences, such as aggression, and to extrapolate the theories beyond these two dimensions would be a misinterpretation."

NeedHelpInHTX · 2018-11-14T11:49:03+00:00

women are too stupid to comprehend logic got one as we speak pissed because i exposed their hypergamy and shes trying to feed me some bullshit lol women will never stop the lies

Scientists conducting the world’s largest study of sex differences in the brain have found that men and women think differently. Men and women are different. They have different skills. They are biologically attracted to different jobs. Deal with it.

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