To cut or not to cut

JustSomeYukoner · 2025-02-12T13:37:06+00:00

I’m not cut, and the reason why is because the doctor who delivered me in the late 70s asked my very pregnant mom if she was going to circumcise me, and my mom said yes. The doctor then asked my mom to watch a circumcision, and according to the story, my mom made it about 4 seconds before she knew she wouldn’t put me through that.

Thank you Dr. Poole, and Mom.

This isn’t your husbands choice. This is your sons’ choice, and they shouldn’t have it made for them.

DO-Kagome · 2025-02-12T13:40:33+00:00

I'm a medical student. Here's a quick summary of how it works -

In the first 48 hours of life, the baby is strapped and harnessed into This. The child will scream and cry virtuously as they're restrained. Ever gotten an anesthetic shot in the mouth? That's what is next, except near his genitals. And yes, babies have pain receptors and feel this. The child's penis is then, quite literally, mutilated. There's nerves, veins, and arterioles that go to the foreskin so there's lots of healing to do. Couple hundred will die per year from it.

I'm Jewish and I did not circumcise my son. This is a barbaric procedure that has minimal unnecessary benefits. We hear a lot about "my body my choice" these days, but it never seems to apply to boys and men. Many of us want to experience the MANY functions that a foreskin has but never can. As for a religious reason (I'm Jewish and wife christian), God instructed Jewish males exclusively to be circumcised, not Christian males.

I'm happy you are outspoken. Thank you so much. Both parents have to sign off to be circumcised, so do not feel forced to allow it. Let HIM choose when he's a teen. Please give him autonomy. Let him choose what to do with his body.

Overworked_Pediatric · 2025-02-12T09:46:44+00:00

Since we're on the topic, it's time for some educational reading.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23374102/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23374102/)

Conclusions: "This study confirms the importance of the foreskin for penile sensitivity, overall sexual satisfaction, and penile functioning. Furthermore, this study shows that a higher percentage of circumcised men experience discomfort or pain and unusual sensations as compared with the uncircumcised population."

This is because circumcision removes the natural "gliding action" of the penis. There are few studies that will falsely state circumcision does not hinder sexual function or sensitivity, but having a basic understanding of penile anatomy, such as the gliding action, allows us to know those studies are disingenuous and incorrect.

https://en.intactiwiki.org/wiki/Gliding_action

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17378847/

Conclusions: "The glans (head) of the circumcised penis is less sensitive to fine touch than the glans of the uncircumcised penis. The transitional region from the external to the internal prepuce (foreskin) is the most sensitive region of the uncircumcised penis and more sensitive than the most sensitive region of the circumcised penis. Circumcision ablates the most sensitive parts of the penis."

The foreskin itself has thousands of receptors that respond to "fine touch" and "stretching", which give that pleasurable ticklish sensation. The foreskin also protects the head, maintaining its sensitivity. For women readers, imagine your clitoris exposed 24/7 to the air and underwear, it will desensitise over time. This process for circumcised males is called "keratinization".

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00809-6

Conclusions: “In this national cohort study spanning more than three decades of observation, non-therapeutic circumcision in infancy or childhood did not appear to provide protection against HIV or other STIs in males up to the age of 36 years. Rather, non-therapeutic circumcision was associated with higher STI rates overall, particularly for anogenital warts and syphilis.”

This is because without the natural gliding action (see above), circumcision causes an enormous increase in friction during intercourse. This friction creates microtears within the vaginal walls which allows these STI's to enter and leave more easily. These microtears also explain why many women get "sore" after intercourse.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41443-021-00502-y

Conclusions: “We conclude that non-therapeutic circumcision performed on otherwise healthy infants or children has little or no high-quality medical evidence to support its overall benefit. Moreover, it is associated with rare but avoidable harm and even occasional deaths. From the perspective of the individual boy, there is no medical justification for performing a circumcision prior to an age that he can assess the known risks and potential benefits, and choose to give or withhold informed consent himself. We feel that the evidence presented in this review is essential information for all parents and practitioners considering non-therapeutic circumcisions on otherwise healthy infants and children.”

"I'm circumcised and happy!" actually ties into the following study...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29210334

Conclusions: "These findings provide tentative support for the hypothesis that the lack-of-harm reported by many circumcised men, like the lack-of-harm reported by their female counterparts in societies that practice FGC, may be related to holding inaccurate beliefs concerning unaltered genitalia and the consequences of childhood genital modification."

Victims of circumcision, male or female, simply do not know better. To unbiased observers, however, we can safely conclude that both are horrible disfigurations that need to end.

Due to this, many men have resorted to restoring their foreskin, thus sensitivity and function, through r/foreskin_restoration

Ok-Yogurtcloset7394 · 2025-02-12T09:08:17+00:00

Please do not give in to your husband. If your boys agree with their father they can get cut later in their adult life but by cutting them now you deny them their choice in this. 🙏

hendrixski · 2025-02-12T12:13:28+00:00

Let your sons decide what to do with their body once they're of the age of consent. They can look at the medical evidence when they're 18 and choose for themselves whether to get circumcised or not.

Their body. Their choice. Not yours not your husband's.

woketouchgrass · 2025-02-12T13:46:59+00:00

Your husband is an idiot.

Please don't mutilate your children.

I wonder what his reaction would be and the double standard if you told him you'll not mutilate only one child. It's either both or none.

GojiNuts · 2025-02-12T09:39:01+00:00

Mutilation, is mutilation...

Silly_Championship11 · 2025-02-12T08:33:35+00:00

Ask him if he'd happily cut any daughters you had because it's the same thing

Mort332e · 2025-02-12T11:28:37+00:00

Advocate for your sons

Mort332e · 2025-02-12T11:30:43+00:00

If god didn’t want foreskin on boys then why the fuck would he design them that way.

enragedCircle · 2025-02-12T11:37:24+00:00

If it's a religious thing remind him that Christians no longer physical circumcision because they are "circumcised of the heart".

im_all_ears · 2025-02-12T13:50:00+00:00

Save your sons from your brainwashed partner!

MyOtherTagsGood · 2025-02-12T12:46:25+00:00

There is absolutely no reason to mutilate the genitals of a defenseless infant

xAceRPG · 2025-02-12T13:22:38+00:00

Don’t do it, you don’t even need to for religious reasons. Circumcision is not a Christian practice.

Matj242 · 2025-02-12T13:37:16+00:00

Absolutely do not cut them. I resent my parents so much for having this needless procedure done. Your husband doesn’t understand his sons might feel differently later in life and there is absolutely no way to recover from this procedure.

serenwipiti · 2025-02-12T14:27:59+00:00

Please don’t mutilate your baby.

EaterOfCrab · 2025-02-12T07:30:54+00:00

Don't listen to nobody telling you that mutilation is "as God intended".

If your son wants a circumcision due to religious beliefs, he can get it once he's an adult, but do not take that choice from him

harpua1972 · 2025-02-12T15:08:53+00:00

I am not religious and I was on the fence about it before my son was born. His mother wanted it done. I went with it.

We were both in the room for the procedure.

Mother left weeping before it was complete. I stayed and watched what I had allowed to happen to my perfect, innocent, baby boy.

It is one of my life's greatest regrets. It is barbaric and useless. Why... seriously, WHY is this allowed at all?

It's horrible and is peak infant abuse. I believe comparing it to Female Genital Mutilation is appropriate and should be the mainstream modern position.

Would we even consider branding an infant? Tattooing them?

If any argument can be made for it, that argument belongs to your son when he is old enough to make it for himself, and ONLY for himself.

Please fight against this if you're on the fence like I was. Please. For your baby.

fart_huffer- · 2025-02-12T13:16:11+00:00

My biggest regret is having it done to my children. I thought it was just the “norm”

panergicagony · 2025-02-12T11:33:48+00:00

Do not

Salamadierha · 2025-02-12T12:35:25+00:00

It's not your husbands dick. It also comes with risk of consequences, including disfigurement, amputation and death.

I can't see any way this is worth a dubious benefit in the far future.

EnvironmentalBuy244 · 2025-02-12T13:00:51+00:00

To add to what others say, I'd press your husband on the supposed sexual benefits he thinks a mutilated penis has?

Functionally an intact one works better. As far as female preference, you're a better expert than him. Would you care? I doubt it.

BelCantoTenor · 2025-02-12T13:35:37+00:00

Thank you for reaching out, I hope this helps. Here is my perspective.

Circumcised men don’t value a foreskin because they never had the opportunity to experience a sex life WITH one. When you both educate yourself about the lifetime benefits that men experience by having a natural, normal, intact penis, by reading all of these posts, please understand that one of the most important parts of this discussion is respecting the autonomy of your son. His body, his choice. It’s not your decision to make. It never was our parent’s decision to make either.

Circumcision has only been routine in the US since after 1945. And still, the majority of the world’s population doesn’t circumcise their children.

The only two religions that speak of circumcision are Muslims and Jews. Muslims require it, however, it is optional for Jews. I’ve known a few secular Jews who were not circumcised at birth.

As far as being a Christian goes, on the topic of circumcision….

In the Bible, Jesus was circumcised as a baby, because Jesus was born a Jew, but the New Testament teaches that circumcision is not required for Christians. Instead, Christians are encouraged to be “circumcised of the heart” by trusting in Jesus’s sacrifice.

Explanation;

In the Old Testament, circumcision was a covenant between God and Jewish males.

In the New Testament, Paul writes that neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is important, but only faith working through love.

Jesus fulfilled God’s promise to die for sins by his sacrifice on the cross.

Circumcision was a big issue in the early Christian Church, especially for Greek converts who were unwilling to undergo the painful operation.

Some viewed circumcision as being contrary to the Christian faith.

Baptism is considered by some to be the Christian equivalent of circumcision.

The Bible says that “in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation”

redditbanbypasser69 · 2025-02-12T07:34:40+00:00

Ask you husband to give up his right eye for god. If he says he doesn't want to, remind him that he has a choice in this matter, your newly born sons don't.

Let the sons turn 18 and decide for themselves if they want their foreskins removed, in any case, they shouldn't ideally be having sex under the age of 18 so their sex lives- if there truly is any benefit from circumcision- will be great when the age comes when they are supposed to have sex.

The other thing to ask the husband is what if the sons want their foreskin back when they turn 18, can he give it back to them? if he can't give it back to them he has no right to impose the taking away of a part given to the sons by god. they will always have the choice to forsake their foreskins at a later date should they choose to do so.

king_rootin_tootin · 2025-02-12T09:19:43+00:00

Let's put it this way: what if your husband wanted to do stage one FGM on your daughter's genitals? What is that, you ask? Well:

In 1997, WHO classified female genital mutilation into four different types. These were subsequently subdivided to capture the subtypes of FGM in more detail.

The four major types of FGM, and their subtypes, are:

Type I. Partial or total removal of the clitoral glans (the external and visible part of the clitoris, which is a sensitive part of the female genitals, with the function of providing sexual pleasure to the woman), and/or the prepuce/clitoral hood (the fold of skin surrounding the clitoral glans). The following subdivisions can be used:

Type Ia. Removal of the prepuce/clitoral hood only.

**Type Ib. Removal of the clitoral glans with the prepuce/clitoral hood.

Source: https://www.who.int/teams/sexual-and-reproductive-health-and-research-(srh)/areas-of-work/female-genital-mutilation/types-of-female-genital-mutilation

Literally the only difference between type 1a FGM and circumcision is the gender it's performed on.

toblotron · 2025-02-12T09:11:50+00:00

Personally I don't see any advantage to being circumcised. It will definitely make the penis less sensitive, and seems to have a traumatizing effect on the child.

jsscrants · 2025-02-12T18:18:32+00:00

I say this as the mother of a 3 month old baby boy:

Your baby is born perfect.

Circumcision is genital mutilation.

There is no need to cut a piece of his genitals off.

Protect your babies.

American Circumcision

D4RK_REAP3R · 2025-02-12T09:35:41+00:00

Don't do it. Your husband is an idiot.

OwnerEmperorDevil666 · 2025-02-12T10:09:14+00:00

Do not cut. It’s not medically necessary for virtually any reason.

Is your husband cut?

BrilliantWriting3725 · 2025-02-12T17:22:11+00:00

If you are against female genital mutilation, then you already know the answer to this one. Don't fall for the propaganda. I've done e-jury duty cases of botched circumcisions. It breaks my heart to see suffering that is preventable. It's genuinely not worth it.

AcademicPollution631 · 2025-02-12T15:11:19+00:00

Don't do it. I was circumcised; wish I wasn't. Sensitive parts of the penis (rigid band, frenulum, and foreskin) are removed, the foreskin provides lubrication during sex and masturbation (circumcision will do the opposite of help him when it comes to sex), the United States is the only developed country that continues to circumcise under the guise of medical benefit (as you mentioned), most of the studies in support of it come from American researchers, and often have methodological errors, and are conducted by biased researchers. One researcher: Brian J Morris, had circumcision fetish porn on his social media.

Don't do it, it's pointless.

h1ghpriority06 · 2025-02-12T09:09:16+00:00

I understand this is a delicate matter, and I wouldn't want to cause any discord in your marriage. However, I would gently suggest that you encourage your husband to reconsider his decision and perhaps seek professional guidance together as a couple from a trusted medical professional.

_crazystacy · 2025-02-12T11:23:54+00:00

Do not cut. It’s a baby for crying out loud. It will not benefit him as an adult. It will affect sensitivity. The fact that it is still being done to babies is beyond my comprehension. When he is an adult, he can choose to do this.

Agitated_Window_9350 · 2025-02-12T13:46:19+00:00

https://youtu.be/FCuy163srRc?si=ZFuIwkKMg0ipyK2F He is a great video/ lecture on the benefits of not circumcising your son and the harms of having it done. He adds a lot of humor to make it a easy watch. Watch it with your husband it made my wife change her mind.

Plodernator · 2025-02-12T12:37:20+00:00

Please don't mutilate your boy

TinyBlonde15 · 2025-02-12T18:37:24+00:00

Well it makes him less sensitive so I don't see any sexual benefit. And I just think it's icky to force a baby to remove part of their body just for aesthetics when they have zero choice. It's disturbing to me. Have your husband watch a video of it being done. There's a reason that they take them out of the room with parents to do it. It's sad to hear them in pain. Why put them thru that? I just don't get it.

Dismal-Diet9958 · 2025-02-13T01:26:53+00:00

I am a guy. If I had a son I (I have 2 teen daughters) would not get him cut. Let him decide when he is old enough.

alienwaren · 2025-02-12T10:51:37+00:00

Do not let him mulitate genitals of your son.

adriens · 2025-02-12T09:51:46+00:00

He doesn't know what he's missing. Having a completely exposed-to-the-elements penis results in a deadening of sensitivity there, on top of increasing the risk of pain and injury to the sensitive glans.

The helmet exists for a reason and protects the hole, kind of like pinching your nose. Upon erection, the hood retracts naturally and sexually it functions identically, if that's his concern.

HelpfulAppointment54 · 2025-02-12T13:10:48+00:00

Boys only know theirs and are use to what they are given. Leaving it future proofs that decision and at worst he feels mid about his hood. If it's two boys, they will sort of notice each other and not think much of it. It's trivial and they'll figure themselves out as adults.

Zealousideal-Edge-40 · 2025-02-12T13:45:26+00:00

It wint benefit them in their adult life. My and my family ma uncut. It protects you but like any other flap should be cleaned once in a while.

randomjack420 · 2025-02-12T15:43:58+00:00

I remember seeing an article where a circumcision was performed in an MRI tube with an obsidian scalpel and plastic bell. They observed the change of the brain structures in real time. Circumcision is traumatizing. Please do not circumcise your boys.

RedPillAlphaBigCock · 2025-02-12T19:55:19+00:00

HELL NO !! It’s mutilation with NO reward , let them choose

skudber · 2025-02-12T20:03:56+00:00

I was circumcised at 45 for medical reasons. On the whole, I preferred sex with the foreskin, so don't fall for the it improves sex line.

DBDRIFT · 2025-02-13T00:25:37+00:00

I mean, it is genital mutilation if you would ask me. I would never ever ever do that to any of my children. Ever.

Greedy-Ambition6551 · 2025-02-12T10:43:09+00:00

Tell him if he’s gonna cut your son, then your daughter must be cut, too. And see the look on his face

Please, OP. Fight for your son’s bodily rights and don’t let him be cut. Nobody has the right to make a permanent decision like that on behalf of someone else

iGhostEdd · 2025-02-12T10:26:31+00:00

Ask your husband if he would cut off the heads of the babies just so he makes sure they won't get any brain tumours. Or in a lighter tone: show/send him this post

g8rrph · 2025-02-12T18:54:57+00:00

I was a student on rotation and watched a circumcision. I swore at that moment I would NEVER let a son of mine get cut.

Aside from that, it’s not mine to have removed. His mom wanted it to look “normal”. I said she should have to watch it. Asked her to research no circ. She ended up agreeing. Thankfully.

jessi387 · 2025-02-12T19:23:06+00:00

My dream is the day that this question isn’t even asked because of how absurd it is.

Let me put it to you in another way. When I was 4 I had my tonsils removed. Almost everyone in my age cohort looks at me like I’m an alien. “You had your tonsils removed ???? Didnt your doctors know there were other ways to deal with infections ??”

People forget but in the 50’s ( I believe) doctors used to recommend preemptively removing children’s tonsils. Everyone had their tonsils removed and it wasn’t weird. It was even a trope in movies, with the prescious reward of getting all the ice cream you desire post surgery.

Today , we look back at this as ludicrous. And it was. Would you remove your child’s tonsils? Without any reason to ? I don’t think so. 70 years ago, I would’ve fit in perfectly, and today I’m the odd one out. This “procedure” will face a similar fate over the coming decades.

Just my 2 cents

63daddy · 2025-02-12T21:00:09+00:00

Your husband says circumcision will benefit your boys when they are adults. So, let them decide that for themselves when they are adults. Why on earth should a parent be taking away a child’s adulthood choices?

BigGaggy222 · 2025-02-12T11:28:06+00:00

Absolutely opposed to genital mutilation - boys or girls.

SidewaysGiraffe · 2025-02-12T10:58:17+00:00

You should discuss this with your husband- that's the key. Let him see what it exactly consists of doing to a child. And I don't mean that metaphorically- I'm sure you can find video of the process, but I suspect the audio would suffice. Humans evolved to find the sound of a crying baby unpleasant; that anyone could hear a baby screaming and not intervene... well, it doesn't speak well for our species. That they can hear that and KEEP DOING WHAT'S MAKING THE BABY SCREAM...

Anyway, just throwing "look at how horrible this is!" at him isn't the best solution; even if it makes him back down, you won't be doing your relationship any favors. Not that that means you shouldn't go to bat for your potential sons, just that you don't want to be a jerk about it.

See, it WON'T benefit him in his adult life when it comes to sex- quite the opposite. Head to the library and take a look at some medical photos of an intact penis, paying particular attention to the area just behind the glans. Compare that with a cut penis- then compare both with the ridges on a "ribbed for her pleasure" condom, which are there specifically to make up for circumcision takes away. So it's not better for his partner (and that's assuming he's into women, anyway). It's also far worse for him, since the lack of a foreskin means there's nothing protecting his glans, which gradually keratinizes, reducing sensation- he's going to get less out of sex. And since it also inhibits the penis's gliding motion, you get (and he needs) far more friction during penetration, leading to tiny tears in the vaginal walls, causing his partner pain during sex. And since the reduced sensation and lubrication problems make masturbation less satisfying, he's far more likely to engage in risky sexual activity, desperate the get the sensation his body is no longer capable of giving him.

Another thing to bear in mind is that, despite what many will tell you, it's NOT done for religious reasons. An 8-day-old boy is not a Jew. He is not a Muslim. He is not part of any religion, organized or otherwise. He is a baby. The real intention behind the tradition is simple tribalism: a step to forever mark the newborn as "one of us"- and to make him far more likely to seek a wife and fulfill the typical role, since he was less able to see to his own sexual needs. Maimonides himself admitted as much.

Oh, and one last thing. That newly mutilated penis? After being bandaged up (incompletely, for obvious reasons), it gets placed into the baby's diaper. The baby's urine- and feces-ridden diaper; exactly where you'd want to place an extremely sensitive body part that's just been sliced open. Is that really what you want for your son?

enragedCircle · 2025-02-12T11:35:19+00:00

Don't cut. Stand your ground. If they want to as adults then they can. Most of the rest of the Western world gave up on this barbaric practice.

Exactly what benefit during sex does having the most sensitive part of the penis cut off? I've read the lack of sensitivity from being cut makes a man last longer. If a man cannot learn how not to ejaculate early I don't know what to tell him. It's a matter of technique and self control.

mratlas666 · 2025-02-12T12:26:51+00:00

Do you like and support gen mutilation?

butterspread1 · 2025-02-12T10:01:44+00:00

Ask him if he'd amputate his pinky finger. Same logic but mutilating a penis is much more damaging.

No offence intended but religious bullshit is really out of control across the cultures.

ateto · 2025-02-12T15:25:31+00:00

I live in a place where this is not done. However I have two friends that have undergone the procedure. One was 19, the other was 50. Give him the choice.

jwakefield110 · 2025-02-12T15:54:28+00:00

Stand your ground,losing the majority of the nerve endings in his genitals and having the glans of his penis keratinize is unlikely to benefit your son as far as sex is concerned. Also there is no proven medical benefit to circumcision and no medical body recommends routine infant circumcision.

LTDlimited · 2025-02-12T16:25:22+00:00

Do not. Infant Baptism is the christian "circumcision", there's no religious reason to cut your child

LoyalMate · 2025-02-12T18:09:28+00:00

You should let him decide. Let the boy grow up and have a choice. There’s no problem at all keeping the foreskin.

stopeatingminecraft · 2025-02-12T20:25:07+00:00

Stand your ground!

idklol3444331 · 2025-02-13T03:16:30+00:00

My family and I are deeply catholic, we are very faithful followers but even we dont believe in circumcision. its quite literal genital mutitaltion, period and st. paul already made it clear that it was of the old covenant like one of the commenters said.

jpowell180 · 2025-02-13T05:41:23+00:00

There is nowhere in the Bible, where God commands Christians to be circumcised, if you circumcise them, then you rob them of their choice later in life, as this is an irreversible operation, and there is no medical need to do it, either.

Just_an_user_160 · 2025-02-13T05:57:35+00:00

Circumcision is not mandatory for christians, and can cause more complications than the supposed benefits that are atributted to it, also, it's a form of genital mutilation and not respecting your sons's agency.

Outrageous_Ad5290 · 2025-02-13T16:37:12+00:00

My dad's circumcision was botched and caused problems for him as an adult. My husband and I decided to forego a circumcision for my son. If he wants it done, he can choose for himself as an adult. He is now in his early 20's. At times it bothered him because he was different, but now he is ok with it.

CappingBillionaires · 2025-02-14T02:18:16+00:00

Please have your husband read this board, and or this post, and or contact me for more info.

I feel like a part of me was stolen without my consent and I feel like my mother violated my trust at a very young age thus. She also thought good Christians mutilate boys. I don't trust her now and this is just one of many reasons why.

I have less sexual sensitivity than I should like, and I am fixated on seeking the pleasure I am missing out on.

So my life is essentially in many ways fucked because of my mother's selfish decision.

Dont do the same to your child. When it comes to health and the body, leave religion at home.

You do not own your child's body.

itspinkynukka · 2025-02-14T03:10:49+00:00

I'm doing everything in my power to make sure my son has the best of orgasms. No to circumcision!

Aggravating_Cream_97 · 2025-02-14T13:31:58+00:00

Don’t not mutilate your child’s penis, period!

Heiley_Tler · 2025-02-14T15:55:06+00:00

Don’t mutilate us.

Ok-Cranberry-9558 · 2025-02-12T20:52:59+00:00

Please do not mutilate your little baby boy.

It's incredibly disappointing that it's not viewed as genital mutilation by wider society.

If he persists, ask him if he wants to also mutilate his little girl?

jonjoe12 · 2025-02-12T13:42:34+00:00

As a british person, (which is culturally close enough to American's as is required for this comparison) most men here are uncircumcised, and there is no general negative side affects.

Its a cultural norm thing, which can be chosen to be done or not. I would naturally side on the position of uncircumcision, and my child will not be circumcised, unless there is a medical necessity.

Animals remain uncircumcised, and there is no negative effects for them, collectively we have evolved that way.

The main arguments for circumcision, is to create the covenant with god (religious (and therefore perhaps cultural)) or the risk that young man wont clean themselves (medical/hygiene) (which is mostly unpleasant on the hygiene scale than dangerous on the hygiene scale (regular urination is a somewhat sterilising evacuation procedure)), which cleaning is a simple procedure, and im sure is part (evolutionary) is the reason for teenage random boners.

Being uncut does make the sheathed part of the penis more sensitive, which i cant imagine is something that someone would want to get rid of and deny themselves. Any community that widely is in favour of circumcision and FGM (tend to be religious), are usually the sort communities which like telling other people about how to restrict and regulate their sexual activity (so desensitize it) which i always feel is a control and submission technique to that communities authority. Interestingly Catholicism doesnt require circumcision and whilst alot of catholic sexual activity and desires can be surrounded by guilt and shame, it is a very pro life and massive family and procreation religion. - so theyre very pro sex, and perhaps, pro sensitivity and stimulation.

But circumcised people live happy full lives without negative side affects, so its not crazily important one way or the other, and whilst im in the uncircumcision camp, I'm not that dogmatic about it, despite my wide and varied opinion on the matter

Theyre just my thoughts on the matter, and that's a larger reply than i was expecting to write.

nezar19 · 2025-02-13T09:04:35+00:00

Would you do anything to your daughter?

Do not cut. The kids can make that mistake themselves later in life if they want

bIuemickey · 2025-02-14T00:59:33+00:00

100 boys die a year in the United States from circumcision. 3%+ have complications that are bad enough to be documented. But a lot of circumcisions that are done poorly will go unnoticed until puberty, like when they’re done too tight, plus there’s scarring which nothing can be done about. This isn’t even going into the psychological effects and the loss of pleasure, functionality, and feelings of betrayal or body autonomy. The rates of circumcisions are a lot lower now, the awareness is growing, even if it’s done “well”, your boy will be of a small percentage of boys who has it done worldwide and in the US it’s not really the norm anymore. He will likely feel pissed off at the very least lol.

xhouliganx · 2025-02-12T17:55:00+00:00

There are a lot of good points made in this thread for why you shouldn’t circumcise your son. As a fellow Christian I’d also like to offer a reason that’s rooted in scripture. The issue of circumcision was resolved in the book of Acts.

After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: ‘Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?’ ‭‭ Acts‬ ‭15‬:‭7‬-‭10‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Peter is referring to the old Mosaic law, which was fulfilled by Christ’s sacrifice on the cross. Circumcision is part of the old law (the yoke that we humans could not bear). In Matthew 11:28-29, Jesus invites us to take his yoke upon us, which is easy and light.

Paul also preaches of “circumcision of the heart” in Romans 2:29. Our covenant with God is through faith in Jesus, not a physical act.

Far_Physics3200 · 2025-02-13T02:01:19+00:00

Cutting is unethical, especially into their private area, unless it's convincingly shown to be in the child's interest. Most intact women and men remain so; to cut a healthy child is to exploit their inability to refuse the ritual's pain, tissue loss, risks, and lack of benefits.

Financial_Window_990 · 2025-02-12T16:09:46+00:00

Tell your husband you will immediately divorce him and charge him with child abuse if he insists on it. Then take your intact son(s) to your mother's and stay there until he is clear on it.

Eden_Company · 2025-02-12T10:17:02+00:00

Does it give problems? Yes. Husband should talk to his son after he grows to the age of 18 like all controversial medical procedures.

nitrogenmonoxideN2O · 2025-02-16T09:10:31+00:00

Male here. I'm in Europe and very few men are circumcised here. I really do not know why North Americans insist on cutting off parts of boys' penises.

When I'm in a locker room I can't help but stare at men who are circumcised. An unerect circumcised penis looks very different from an unerect uncircumcised penis.

Lil_troublemaker_ · 2025-02-17T04:58:57+00:00

Your sons can have it done as adults if they really want to. It's thier body they should be able to make the decision for themselves. It will affect them for the rest of thier life.

Brave_Translator4126 · 2025-02-12T13:24:17+00:00

Here is an entry-level site that both you and your husband will like. http://circumcisiondebate.org

Ok-Cranberry-9558 · 2025-02-12T20:55:27+00:00

Also, if it's religious, remind your husband that the old testament tells us that anyone who touches pigs skin (football) must be put to death.

And that if you plant two different crops next to each other? Death.

Work on the Sabbath? Death.

Fit-Commission-2626 · 2025-02-26T13:08:55+00:00

this is a very important mmens rights issue and if you can not hold a man down and force a surgery on him than the same should apply to boys who will become men and this is a sad and disgusting thing this culture has allowed for to long and males deserve the same rights to decide what happens to their body as females have and this surgery is not needed and hurts male sexuality and can be dangerous and is a bad thing and also attacks childrens most basic of rights.

PIF_Daddy · 2025-02-27T15:25:01+00:00

I hear ppl that get circumcized later in life, that it is super-painful. Better to just get it out of the way.

RoughAcanthisitta810 · 2025-02-12T18:50:51+00:00

I guess I’ll be the first comment to agree with your husband. This subreddit takes a radical position on circumcision. It doesn’t matter what happens in the rest of the world if you plan on raising him in America.

Uncircumcised boys are bullied by their male peers. American females think uncircumcised penises look weird. Your child has a decent chance of growing up with self confidence issues if he is not circumcised. This is not about what you want. It is about what you think your child would want in the future.

JoseJoseJose11 · 2025-02-12T16:24:55+00:00

I think you should listen to your husband and you both consult medical experts on this, not people on Reddit that have a weird obsession with opposing it.

tronaldump0106 · 2025-02-12T09:40:22+00:00

I'm cut, my son's cut, my brother is cut, my dad's cut and no one has any problems.

Hire a Jewish guy to do it, they do several a week and the risk is very low.

Munkpunt · 2025-02-12T12:25:51+00:00

Wrong sub to ask….are you trolling?

Margareydragonslayer · 2025-02-12T07:25:25+00:00

Congrats on the babies :)

I think this is really the type of thing to take to God. Reflect on the Bible, seek out diverse opinions on interpretations of passages, and spending some time praying. Personally from my reading it seems circumcision was necessary until Jesus came, after which point it was irrelevant (but you’ll have to do your own thinking) Your husband should also be reflecting in this way.

It’s not about your future son’s sex life, or your disgust at the incision wound, or “standing ground” righteously. This is just a really great time to spend some time talking with your husband and God about your ideas of what it means to be responsible for these types of decisions for another human, how to make them, and what to actually do.

Title	To cut or not to cut
Author	Lilly_Rose_Kay
Upvotes	154
Comments	198
Date	February 12, 2025 7:07 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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