Disappointed in misleading articles about childless women recently, does anybody why these are being pumped out recently?

Tywinlol · 2024-04-15T02:46:20+00:00

Most of my colleagues are women and those of them who are single are all desperate for relationship. Those over 27 are also usually in the permanent baby crazy state. So my experience is exact opposite. We just had another post yesterday talk about how hard it is for women to find relationships, even if they significantly lowering their standards. Lets tackle your assumptions one by one:

To a large degree both genders, but especially women follow social narratives and socially constructed idea of happiness. They declare to be happy single and childless because that is the dominant social trend, all their role models are such, all the propaganda is encouraging that, especially in college. However, that is starting to change and will change even more in the coming years, especially with the declining economy.
The number of women that can afford to be a successful single mom is so small its not worth discussing. I know every women is a CEO billionaire on reddit but in real life 60% + are living pay check to pay check, cannot afford their own place and so on. Good luck being a rich single mom. Not to mention all the problems that can happen with donors and frozen eggs. As for adoption good luck adopting as couple let alone single mom/dad. I rarely recommend Vox as a source but they do a good job in this article on how "easy" it is to be successful single in America. https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/24055481/single-benefits-married-couple-taxes-money
If by relationship you mean booty call sure most women can easily achieve that for anything else not so much. There are plenty of posts on here about women struggling to find relationships, there was one 2 days ago I think.
Delusional. If you want marriage as a woman you have to work to get it, its not easy. And if you want someone half decent you have to work twice as hard.
Also Tinder, I used to think along same lines until my boss, we fairly close friends, shared her experience on there, out of 70+ matches she got over weekend, a week of reaching to all of them and talking, she ended up with 3 options, all of whom wanted something casual, 1 potential date after which she was promptly ghosted. In the end there was a lot of tears.

But I do notice these articles and I think we are on the verge of major conservative/traditional turn, together with collapse of what little is left of American democracy. It can happen very quickly just look at Iran and most women going from fairly Western to Muslim tradwifes after revolution. Current economic trends are completely unsustainable thus it is little surprise that we see emergence of counter trends that challenge current narrative.

Realistic-Ad-1023 · 2024-04-15T01:42:15+00:00

Show me a woman who has never been rejected by a man for a relationship. All women have been rejected at least once, aside from maybe the women who married the first man they ever dated and they started dating at like 15. And not just these “Chads” or “men outside of her league.” Just regular dudes who don’t want to date her for whatever reason. Most men in the world aren’t nearly as desperate as the bottom 10% of men are. And women on the bottom 10% are just as invisible and struggle just as badly.

Access to sex isn’t access to men. It’s access to sex. And to even say “sex” is maybe not an entirely honest representation of what happens when a woman chooses to have sex with a man she just met, or a man who doesn’t want to date/impress her. It’s more akin to “used as a life sized pocket pussy” or “slammed into with 7 pumps before he cums, rolls over and goes to sleep.” And, to be fair, even some of the men who were trying to impress me were like that.

If you wouldn’t be a hole for a gay guy, you wouldn’t enjoy the “access to men” women have. That’s a much closer representation of the “sex” “any woman” can get. A dude who doesn’t actually get you off, focused on his own pleasure, who I’m not actually attracted to.

Outside of that - most of us have to impress men to date them. They have to like us, see us as a potential partner, enjoy the lives they live along side us. Most men aren’t desperate enough to have no standards. Even some very ugly men I know have standards. And they still found people who met them and they’re in a relationship now. I’ve seen dudes put up with shit for access to sex, just like I’ve seen girls put up with shit because of love but no one who has zero standards right off the bat.

ChiBron86 · 2024-04-15T01:47:37+00:00

My personal experience has been quite different from this. I (38m) got divorced about 2 years ago and have either messed around or been on dates with about 30 different women since.

I'm not remotely exaggerating when I say this, but literally every single one of them badly wanted to be in a relationship. Like, zero exceptions. They all wanted a man in their life and were generally miserable about not having one.

Obviously, when I say man, I don't mean hookups or fwb. All women can easily attain those and none of them find it remotely fulfilling beyond a short period. No, what they all badly desire is a relationship/marriage with a man they find attractive and vice versa. And there are literally ZERO exceptions to this if you're dealing with women north of 30. Zero. They all desperately crave consistent companionship of 1 man. And at least in my experience, their motivation was never $$$$. Pretty much all of 'em had careers and earned a good living.

I don't think financial independence changes much about who women are at their core. It makes them less dependent on men, sure, but does nothing to quench their need for romance, kids and being part of a family. I truly believe that's where they find true fulfillment. I don't for a second believe there are women out there who crave solitude and being alone.

Green-Quantity1032 · 2024-04-15T02:49:44+00:00

Frankly I don't buy these articles pumped out by conservative affiliated organizations saying that "oh women at age 35 are struggling to find a man" when either

I don't know about young women - maybe they can afford themselves thinking they don't want children until later on when it's last chance - maybe some of them even stick to their decision.

What I do know - is that I've seen enough 28+ women struggle to get in fulfilling relationships.

Yes, they can get a hot guy to fuck easily - they're been there done that, it doesn't excite them and it wastes their time looking for a good relationship and then kids.

Yes, they can get an "ok" guy for a relationship easily - but most of them are "ok" just on 1st look, and are insecure, weird, and tbh fucking unattractive.

A lot of them eventually settle for some ok+ guy and call it a day.

Others continue being single and having lonely crying sessions once in a while.

Most are girls I wouldn't consider for a relationship tbh, but some are really cute girls who're just having trouble finding a guy they want and who wants them.

I'm pretty sure the more attractive and cute the girl, the easier it is for her, to the extent that some women won't even understand the issue. The real issue is for those who are attractive, but not hot - but still have pretty high expectations from a man (I don't blame them, I wouldn't date subpar men either)

Cethlinnstooth · 2024-04-15T04:07:32+00:00

The only woman I know who fits that profile was basically being manipulated by her mother for years to be the child eternally needing care of two parents. This was done to maintain the family unit despite everything being a bit shit. She eventually woke up that she had nothing of her own. Normal women in normal situations know if they don't want kids, if they do or don't want a relationship, make a decision then stick to it.

Those articles get released because there are people who want us to believe it is true.

TRTGymBro1 · 2024-04-15T08:31:28+00:00

Schrödinger's young women: simultaneously happy to be single, despise men and sex AND 67% of them are currently in relationships and have more sex than the average man

habarander · 2024-04-15T00:59:09+00:00

https://ifstudies.org/blog/not-by-choice-unmarried-without-kids-and-the-truth-about-life-in-the-otherhood

Like this?

LapazGracie · 2024-04-15T02:17:33+00:00

I dunno. The whole "women (or anyone) can be happy without a family" shit seems like dangerous leftist propaganda to me.

Dear women.

You don't need children who absolutely adore their mother. Who have your genes and propagate your existence after you die. Who fill your heart with joy even in the hardest of times.

You don't need a husband who actually cares about you. Who is willing to sacrifice his life for you and your kids. Who will break his neck trying to support you.

No...

What you really need is to do some more TPS reports. That boss who doesn't give a flying rat fuck about you. You should focus all your energy on making him/her happy. Because the bottom line of that company you work for is the most important thing in your life.

I mean really you would expect something like this to come from pro-capitalist pro-corporate conservatives. But alas for some reason the leftists are feeding women this bullshit.

WanabeInflatable · 2024-04-15T06:21:45+00:00

You are 90% right, but asking out a random man on the street - here I would disagree. It is not a guaranteed strategy for women.

I was asked out by women an street and I always thought it is a scam. And I also wasn't single at the moment.

xKalisto · 2024-04-15T07:04:44+00:00

Many couples these days find themselves childfree because they feel they can't afford kids rather than choice to not have them, so it's probably talking about those women.

GlamSunCrybabyMoon · 2024-04-15T04:01:26+00:00

There’s A LOT of men willing to have raw sex with a woman and get her pregnant. Men willing to be active fathers (who mean it and are not just saying it for the opportunity to have raw sex) ? I’m not sure that’s as easy of a find.

Geselshaft · 2024-04-15T02:27:55+00:00

It’s all propaganda. Even a sub-average woman can have both dick, and relationships, lined up for every day of the week.

And that’s throughout her entire life. Oh sure, he may only be 5’11”, but he’s always available. Any woman saying otherwise is lying. Any man saying otherwise doesn’t know women.

Women actively say no all the time every day. They can have any form of relationship they want and any amount of children starting at zero.

Again, any guys thinking otherwise are delusional.

Defundisraelnow · 2024-04-15T01:13:56+00:00

Women struggle to find good men. By that I mean mentally stable men who aren't abusive, aren't criminals, aren't in a ton of debt or have baby mommas coming after them for child support. We want men who will genuinely love, respect and cherish us. Most men these days don't even seem to like women. The struggle is real. Luckily though, most women can live happily single. We can find ways to be content with our lives even if we don't get what we want. We're not like men.

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Safinated · 2024-04-15T02:29:37+00:00

They do, they just take longer and longer to do it

TopEntertainment4781 · 2024-04-15T02:44:00+00:00

I think you are trolling.

Some do and some don’t.

eli_ashe · 2024-04-15T05:55:48+00:00

oh, just speaking statistically, most women, maybe the overwhelming majority of women end up having kids at some point. Tends to go like 'younger women say they don't want babies, then life happens they get older and eventually have one or more for whatever reason'.

upshot there being it isn't really unreasonable to say that most women actually want babies.

optimuscrymez · 2024-04-15T06:46:24+00:00

Here is a graph:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/kW9B6T9laKg0C1O1jlJJRZ6yj30=/0x0:2405x1514/1120x0/filters:focal(0x0:2405x1514):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19369925/Panel_5.png:format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19369925/Panel_5.png)

All that career-focusing, dial-a-dude-tindering, IVF juicing, and clit-toy buzzing has really led to a utopia for women.

AgileActuary9472 · 2024-04-15T09:13:16+00:00

Women in their early 20s =/= women in their late 20s and early 30s

You aren’t at the baby crazy/ticking biological clock phase yet. Trust me it’s coming and it’s very real.

You’re going to watch women’s’ feelings about children change drastically over the next decade. This is why most doctors won’t do hysterectomies on early 20s “childfree” women. Doctors are smarter than the average person and know it’s just a phase for 95% of women.

Odd_Ad5171 · 2024-04-15T02:29:14+00:00

In their late twenties that start to be concerned if they haven't hit certain milestones (long term partner, close to marriage).

In their 30s they really start to become concerned and more desperate but they only lower their standards a little.

By 40 the smart ones snatched a guy and popped out a kid or two. The rest of them now start to rationalize and tell themselves they never wanted to have children, that they enjoy having narcissistic lives where they live only for themselves. Usually at this point they either realize they made a mistake and quietly recede into the background or they are become more and more unhinged, looking for social validation, going to spaces inappropriate for their age ect, when they failed their primary objective.

None of this applied to <25 girls who feel they have all the time in the world to do whatever they want

amendment64 · 2024-04-15T03:15:40+00:00

Man, is it really so hard for some of you to see that a lot of folks see the worlds crises as a reason not to have kids? I'm in something of an unconventional relationship, in that I think marriage is bullshit. I've been with the same woman for 12 years, and neither of us want kids. Our world is overpopulated as is, and at present we are marching towards climate catastrophe as a result of overconsumption. Both me and my partner feel our greatest contribution to the world is not having kids.

If a woman wants a kid, she has a myriad of options to conceive, whether through finding a partner, artificial insemination, or adopting. If she wants a supportive partner in childrearing, that will be a far bigger challenge. Many women are choosing to be childfree because, to them, it is the morally correct choice. Its not just single ladies who are childless. Plenty of childless women are in loving relationships with supportive partners.

Lenovo_Driver · 2024-04-15T04:49:07+00:00

Why don’t you link to these articles you’re seeing instead of these made up titles that are all convenient to fit your narrative?

EulenWatcher · 2024-04-15T01:05:31+00:00

What is your point?

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