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[–]TempoIndigoNo Pill 95 points96 points97 points 1 year ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I’ve been called an incel in a discussion about energy because I disagreed with her
[–]Yoyo4games 25 points26 points27 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I've been called an incel over mic for listing off some weapon spawns on a Halo match, then insisting on my stated spawn points after the girl said otherwise. She threw a fit and demanded a bunch of people leave a discord over it(never swore at her, never called her a name, was a little cheeky once proved right which was after she called me names) and two people actually did leave lmfao. Also been called it for how I had smoked and for the way I've talked to customers in service jobs. People who throw that word around online or in real life often have issues, I think. 🤷♂️
[–]TempoIndigoNo Pill 23 points24 points25 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I can always tell its a woman sending hate mail when they throw out incel or they throw out dick size. Legit the only insults they can fathom. Even the 8yr olds send better insults
[–]LupeDyCazari 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Eh, but you have to admit that the dick size insults do work, don't they?
Mjölnir
[–]TempoIndigoNo Pill 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you’re young, yes
If you’re not insecure about your life, no
[–]_ModusPwnens_ 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not if you got a big dick 😎
[–]thisreallyisnotok 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They literally think all men are insecure about their masculinity so they throw out these basic ass insults
[–]step0264 35 points36 points37 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Not just that. if you're 6'2 ,reject a fds woman on tinder because her short height,, 99% chances are she will call you incel.
I've been rejected short women before and I've never been called incel. You guys need to stop with this revenge fantasies of yours, ''oh, I'm so popular that I can reject women and because women aren't used to being rejected, 'cause all women are queens yassssh, I was called an incel!''
Bullshit.
[–]palindromiaGalatians 4:16 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lol wat
Holy baggage
Yikes
[–]Peacesquad 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s their go to. When a woman can’t argue with logic and just emotions she will ALWAYS resort to shame language. Don’t fall for it
[–][deleted] 44 points45 points46 points 1 year ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Either that or small dick energy
[–]Peacesquad 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Insecure!! Small dick!!! Incel! That’s all they have
[–]insertcredit2Purple Pill Man - Married - INTP 44 points45 points46 points 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link
B B B B But Greta had the greatest come back of all time.
[–]OldFartneedYoungtart 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
If Tate said anything about Gretas body, even though shes an adult
He would've been crucified
[–]BN5130 34 points35 points36 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Seriously, that middle school level insult was supposedly the greatest come back of all time
[–]Peacesquad 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She has a horde of fans that will praise anything she does
[–]-angels-fan-Pitbull loving male feminist 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not that it was some amazing comeback, it's that such a low level basic insult shook Tate so hard!
[–]Soggy_Head_48891 points 1 year ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
They were both cringe as fuck.
[–]insertcredit2Purple Pill Man - Married - INTP 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
💯
[–]Robotemist 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Somehow, naming my own email small dick energy is a great insult to you.
[–]spunkystoic 32 points33 points34 points 1 year ago (15 children) | Copy Link
So...let me get this straight...the main justification from the ladies here is effectively:
"...uh, yeah kinda...but we're gonna keep on doing it"
Got it 👌
[–]JDWhiz96Suburbs 29 points30 points31 points 1 year ago (10 children) | Copy Link
That’s what they always do. A fair critique of women is always met as sexist, while bullying of men is met with either praise or shrugs.
Gynocentricism.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link
None of PPD’s “critiques of women” are fair. They are lazy ignorance towards the fact that female selectivity is based on the lesser quality of male reproductive and sexual value.
[–]JDWhiz96Suburbs 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Not true; many, and I'd venture to say most, of the men's points about women ring true. Too many people have been conditioned to let women skirt responsibility and accountability, so when it happens, it seems like it's sexist and misogynist.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men spout “responsibility and accountability” like the syllable count is supposed to give them authority. None of their points have any substance, just like the meme. Glad women are waking up and leaving them in the basement dust
[–]ssnabberzPurple Pill Woman -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So you want us to go back to the age of burning women at the stake for even being accused of infidelity? I think you all are collectively seething about slowly losing your power over us 🤭🤫
[–]soundsshemade 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice try, but we're gonna come right back down to reality here and explain that no, accountability & responsibility are not dog whistles for burning women at the stake.
I have no power over women and I never did. It's not something I miss or know anything about. You're really dishonest for attempting to make our opinions look that bad. I'd argue if you come back with anything that paints "men" so broadly again, you actually cannot debate and shouldn't perceive yourself as mature enough to be here.
[–]HellsteelzNo Pill 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Always with the worst and extreme examples to prove your point. It's almost never using sound arguments which further proves this post.
Women truly love to spite men instead of just listening.
[–]_ModusPwnens_ 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes
[–]funnystorPills are for addicts 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lesser quality of male reproductive and sexual value.
If you really believe that then you should use IVF to make sure you only have girls. Wouldn't want to waste resources on a "lesser quality" son, would you?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yup. Men in this sub will trash talk us for merely existing and not bending over backwards for them. They deserve a taste of their own medicine.
[–]Unfair-Recording6106 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
that’s not true at all how is it bending over backward to not fuck 50 dudes. and good guys will give u anything u want and your acting like any time someone criticizes your shitty behavior it’s “oh the patriarchy” no men have to be self critical in order to progress and survive or we finish last, if we never go to the gym and get money and we’ll end up in our moms basement. so either u understand or u don’t but if u can’t take judgement the same way dudes do you don’t really have room to speak
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
“Good guys” are not good, they’re just ugly guys who virtue-signal. Boohoo if women don’t want to mate with someone who just wants to mooch off their sexual and reproductive resources.
[–]Unfair-Recording6106 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that’s your daddy issues opinion but i guarantee there’s at least one good guy on the planet
[–]orbstnedifnocdesab 33 points34 points35 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
average IT user
[–]duksinarw 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's sad how subs like that position themselves as progressive, forward thinking spaces for romantically unsuccessful guys, but if you read conversational posts there they assume everything negative about the guy in question, and seem to only want blind acceptance of their repeated, generic advice
[–]Whisperinthelair 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kek.
[–]Micro_Peanuts 39 points40 points41 points 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Shaming someone for their (supposed) sexuality (or lack there of) is intolerant and oppressive. If you shout "INCEL" at someone is as bad as the person who shouts "FAG!!"
[–]RedPill115 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Technically I think it's the opposite gender version of Slut.
Women sleeps around to much and to easily - shame shame shame! Man doesn't sleep with any woman - same thing!
Sluts are of unworthy moral character. Incels are of unworthy moral character.
I think someone running the narrative just ran through the slut-shaming script and redid it with men instead. The president has basically said all incels need to be viewed with suspicion as potental terrorists, it's the same thing as the church leader saying all slutty women are following the devil and will destroy society, etc.
[–]Dafiro93 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nah, more like calling someone broke. Gay people can't change their sexuality.
[–]CompleteRetard69 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well…
[+]xKalistoYuropean SAHM -6 points-5 points-4 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You are not born incel dum dum.
[–]Filmguy000 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lots of people are born exceptionally ugly and have little to no sex throughout their lives.
[–]RedPill115 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, technically you are. You're born a virgin. dum dum dum.
[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman 21 points22 points23 points 1 year ago (22 children) | Copy Link
I only see men in this sub talking about sex as the most valuable thing about a woman.
Most women here just say "no I'm not that awful caricature you just described"
[–]fools_errand49 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (8 children) | Copy Link
People only notice or remember things that have an emotional impact on them. You have no reason to notice or recall the ad nauseam accusations of inceldom, autism, and insecurity that are directed at men who are merely assumed to be sexless by women here just as the men have no reason to remember what you are talking about. The tell that this is the case in your statement is the word only. I only have a subconscious emotional response to the shitty things women say here. Nevertheless I see and recall the totality of the discourse.
I can personally tell you that I rarely ever come here without seeing a woman using ad hominem to reinforce the idea that a man is only as valuable as he is sexually desirable/successful. What you notice/experience is the flip side of that schema. Obviously if a man's value is determined primarily by sex then it follows that a woman is primarily only valuable for sex. As much as I'm not an internet meme guy, the OP has a point. Many behaviors and beliefs of women actually reinforce the views and behaviors you find distasteful in men.
[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Maybe a lot of it is lost in the comments for me, but the premises of so many posts here are by men talking about an imagined value systems all based around sex and resources that dehumanize both men and women
[–]fools_errand49 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yes that is what men here frequently focus on. I was originally surprised to come to a sub about gender issues and find that every discussion revolved around sex. Nevertheless the value system of sex isn't "imagined" by these men. It's primarily enforced by women's value judgements against men who struggle in dating and mating. I've never been shamed for anything like that by men, but I have been called an incel by women for things that don't have anything to do with inceldom or even sex.
[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Imagined was the wrong word. What I mean to say is they overstate the objectivity of this value system. There is a general consensus on many things, but it's not an actual set up marketplace where everyone has agreed on the values.
Outside of this sub, I see incel and virgin get meaninglessly lobbed as insults all the time. The overwhelming majority of the time, I see men get called incel on this sub because they legitimately talk like incels.
[–]fools_errand49 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
it's not an actual set up marketplace where everyone has agreed on the values.
This isn't how markets work unfortunately. We can quibble all day about whether market forces are natural and objective or socially constructed and subjective or any combination of the two, but at the end of the day the market heavily rewards male virility and devalues male chastity. Nobody has to consciously consent to these market pressures. They merely have to participate in them which is something a significant, vocal and growing group of women readily do.
The overwhelming majority of the time, I see men get called incel on this sub because they legitimately talk like incels.
To be honest I have no idea what "talking like an incel" means. I routinely see women accuse men of incel talk for referencing well established biology, psychology, and social theories. When the accusation starts to cover hard facts it seems to me that incel is just a shaming word to silence those who state things others just don't want to believe or consider. The amount of arbitrarily selective science denialism on this sub routinely amazes me. The men may be misapplying scientific concepts with great frequency, but the rebuttals are often just unfactual in their entirety.
[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
See, now I have to wonder what biology, psychology or social theories you are talking about.
[–]fools_errand49 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
For biology we have the consistent finding that men in general when measured as a group have higher sex drives than women (obviously outliers exist). This is more or less uncontested among experts yet widely disputed by women on this sub.
Another example is the term pair bonding which is also a widely accepted concept that solicits accusations of incel talk with frequency. Sometimes the men using it are engaged in incel talk, but pair bonding isn't the signal word. It's just a scientific term. I've been reading about human and animal sexuality since long before I discovered these weird internet spaces and ideologies, and the RP jargon I instantly recognized is lifted straight from the scientific literature albeit it is sometimes misunderstood or misapplied.
Psychologically there is substantial dispute in this sub around whether men are actually more rational (on average in general) than women. Unfortunately it is the case that men test higher in conscientiousness and its sub trait rationality.
I believe the denial around this issue is probably because rationality is often placed at the top of the intellectual hierarchy so people tend to simplify that to a value judgement on male superiority which I can understand women's trepidation toward. Fortuantely that final value judgement doesn't really follow so I prefer to view rationality and emotionality as different domains rather than greater or lesser ones, and to see a hierarchical position (in a sensible hierarchy at any rate) as an indicator of function rather than an indicator of superiority or importance. Basically men are generally more rational, but that isn't necessarily better or more important.
In terms of social theory I'll pick the arguments around social collapse due to a sexless society with decling rates of family formation. This is often uncharitably interpreted and dismissed as an "incel rebellion" fantasy, but the underlying theory has nothing to do with a revolt of sexless men. My qualm is not that people disagree about whether the conditions for social collapse are going to be met at any point in the relatively near future (in historical terms) as that is perfectly reasonable to debate, but rather that the component theories are straight up denied or ignored.
It's first part is economic theory as a declining population with more old people makes the economy weaker (this is basic economics). Furthermore married men with children far out earn all other earners and particularly single childless men while taking the least from the communal resource pool. Having fewer married men with children also substantially weakens an economy while feeding back into precipitous population decline.
The second part involves the underlying cultural changes and sociocultural upheaval wraught by bringing continually increasing mass immigration to make up for population shortfalls. This generates great strain on the state structure by sowing cultural disunity on account of large groups which are slow to culturally integrate. At some quantity of large group migration you reach a breaking point akin to the Late Roman Empire. Abraham Lincoln put it well when he said that a divided house cannot stand.
The third component is male social investment theory and it's relationship to intergroup competition. Essentially women are sufficiently dependent on society (to help with children that biology saddled them with) that they will largely buy in and contribute something, but men are easily detached from the larger structure becasue they don't have the level of guaranteed and socially supported reproductive access that women do. This guarantee of children for women incentivizes social investment in women so that children can be born to revitalize society. Because a man isn't always given this access he will tend to be a social contributor on a more selective basis because society isn't always offering him anything significant that he wants (the earlier economic information in male contribution ties in here). Thu is where the intergroup competition comes into play. Societies that compete against each other tend to be more successful when they have greater public buy in and because the group with selective buy in is men then the difference between a winning society and a losing one is generally the difference in the quantity and quality of male social investment. Basically male social investment is necessary for successful group competition which is an inevitable social challenge.
Now as I said you could argue that we aren't actually close to the tipping point yet, but the component theories can't just be labelled as ideological rather than scholarly. Hardly an "incel rebellion" fantasy I think.
[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You worded all of that really well and it made a lot of sense. The sort of posts I'm thinking of are not like that. They often take facts and statistics, and then use them to come to really terrible conclusions. For example they would take males testing higher on average for rationality and decide that means all women are stupid and innately inferior.
But again, that's not at all what you did. I'd like to see more posts like it, honestly. I want real talking to happen. There's obviously a problem and a big boys vs. girls contest isn't the answer.
[–]fools_errand49 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They often take facts and statistics, and then use them to come to really terrible conclusions.
Then women should argue the conclusions on the basis of the facts rather than denying the facts outright.
For example they would take males testing higher on average for rationality and decide that means all women are stupid and innately inferior.
I don't normally see anyone outright stating conclusions like that (maybe that's my emotional blinders in action). I'm not going to claim there aren't men playing chicken with saying the quiet part out loud, buy nobody bothers to find out. In my observation women normally infer the worst possible conclusions from the facts presented, and then attempt to dispel the facts out of fear that men will draw that same conclusion. Knowledge is dangerous no doubt, but as with any tool fear and ignorance increases the risk of harm. Denialism probably pushes more men toward undesirable conclusions.
I'd like to see more posts like it, honestly. I want real talking to happen.
I hate to dash your hopes, but most women (I'd say about 85%) who actually interact with me respond the same way they do to the less savory people (or ignore me in favor of reacting to idiots). Every example I gave and the poor faith interpretations of those arguments has happened to me for stating exactly what you just read. If it takes a well worded text block liberally sprinkled with qualifiers to make myself heard by a fraction of my opposite number then discourse here is utterly dysfunctional. For that reason I don't participate here as much anymore.
[–]Ducks_Are_WatchingNo Pill, I'm on rehab 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Really? You never see women here insulting men?
Sorry but you're either new or being disingenuous
[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Never said they were never insulting at all. But I mean what I said about the men here being the ones to equate sex with worth.
[–]Ducks_Are_WatchingNo Pill, I'm on rehab 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I mean you're not wrong, but women certainly reinforce that as it's more important to offend us than dismantle this notion you guys consider toxic.
[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Dismantle which notion, exactly? Can you name some that are not themselves insults? If I asked "do men even feel love?" would that be considered a debate point with zero malice behind it? Because that's the intellectual prowess many posts here display.
[–]Ducks_Are_WatchingNo Pill, I'm on rehab 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I mean the notion that sex determines a men's value. I see very few women, specially in this sub, that actually fight against this idea. Most just reinforce it because it's an easy dig at men they don't like.
[–]Yoyo4games 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Bruh there have been women here saying shit like, "the dating market isn't fair for men, and that's a good thing which shouldn't change", then when asked for elaboration say they think men who haven't had sex in 1+ years "are just fucking creepy weirdos" and explicitly said they didn't care about ugly or broke men getting literally used and abused, nor the fact that the legal system would give them more consequences if marriage or claims of abuse were part of the picture. Why even bother debating if women argue here in good faith/in a way which isn't conducive to the things they claim they want accomplished? I mean, the men here don't do that shit either lmfao so why talk with anyone on this sub about who's debating in ways to offend intentionally? (Changed is to isn't in edit)
[–]Ducks_Are_WatchingNo Pill, I'm on rehab 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I've seen firsthand here how they immediately assume you must be some creep if you struggle to find people, and if you try to argue how lookism is to blame for that you're bombarded with insults like incel and virgin.
I try because every once in a while I find sensible women here who at least are open to listening and changing their minds about this topic, but unfortunately they are few and far between.
[–]OrdinaryFarmerBurgundy Pill Man 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upabgRt2Vn8
Political disagreement? THEY ARE SEX STARVED MALES!
[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I know people say this a lot, but I don't see it in this sub, which is what the title of the post claims.
[–]insertcredit2Purple Pill Man - Married - INTP 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I've had it twice in 2 days. Which is weird as I literally put that I'm married in my flair.
I have seen the accusation thrown a fair few times, but not as a baseless buzzword insult over a mere disagreement. Almost always happens after a guy has made himself sound like a desperate creep.
It's not as if it's never not an appropriate description. I've seen some less than great looks here, such as saying that "women should accept loveless marriages because men don't have many options" or asking women, "If you aren't putting out quick enough, what are you worth?".
[–]insertcredit2Purple Pill Man - Married - INTP 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
See https://imgur.com/dN86Uzt.jpg for more information.
[–]waffleznstuff30No Pill 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This!
Men in here only talk about sex and sex being the only thing of value. And women are to just have sex. It really cheapens the whole thing. We are a lot more than living breathing Fleshlights.
A lot of us just refute these horrible ideas. Women hitting the wall, somehow our labia's fall out of us, we only want one standard man and all fighting for him which leads us to think a lot of these men haven't really interacted with a lot of women outside of online spaces and porn. Which is why we say incel. Because it's such a jaded worldview to look at people. Especially people that supposedly can give you access to the "most important thing".
[–]thetruthishere_Resident MILF Whore 21 points22 points23 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This sub in a nutshell is, count, women bad and men that whine women are privileged to obtain easy sex with men that see us as a hole and and you cant be used like a hole for sex.
"Its not fair" and you start some thirsty for validation post. You dont want to debate you want attention and your thirst to be validated.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]-angels-fan-Pitbull loving male feminist 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This entire sub
Don't you mean the entire left?
[–]KamuiObito 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why do y’all gangbang with political groups so much, it’s so funny to watch the crip and blood like fued yall have with the left and right stuff..I’ve seen both used in comments like this and still don’t understand why y’all hate each other, rather then just disagree
[–]BornAgainSpecial 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
One side tried to kill the other with lockdown.
[–]AngrySilva 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn, you really were born special :)
[–][deleted] 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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[–]wewillnotdie25 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Without there sexual energy they would be no different then us that's literally how they acquire everything.
[–]begayalldayRainbow Pill 🏳️🌈 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (32 children) | Copy Link
I’m not sure how “incel” could be considered a slur given that’s the name they came up with for themselves. That said, I generally won’t call individual people incels, but I may refer to their beliefs as incel ideology if the shoe fits.
[–]Most_Anything_173 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I’m not sure how “incel” could be considered a slur given that’s the name they came up with for themselves.
It's the same as calling straight people gay. It's intended to be an insult by the commenter. It's also not limited to actual incels, just like calling a guy gay is not limited to actual homosexuals.
[–]begayalldayRainbow Pill 🏳️🌈 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Explain to me how calling a straight person gay is an insult.
[–]Most_Anything_173 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
When you insult someone by calling them X, you are saying two things:
Did you forget the 90's when everything that was lame was called gay? Person acting weird " gay". Show is bad "show is gay". Boring presentation in school "gay". You know exactly what I'm talking about, you were there. But I guess that gay can never be used as a slur since that is the word gay people use to identify themselves as.
[–]funnystorPills are for addicts 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Would you be insulted if someone called you a man? If so, why?
[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (10 children) | Copy Link
“I won’t call you dumb but I’ll call you stupid”
[–]begayalldayRainbow Pill 🏳️🌈 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (9 children) | Copy Link
How is that even close to what I said? Explain.
[–]Peacesquad 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Would a non-incel have incel idealogy?
[–]begayalldayRainbow Pill 🏳️🌈 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yes, I have known some people who have sex somewhat regularly but have views that are pretty much verbatim in line with those of incels.
[–]Peacesquad 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Name one view. This should be interesting
[–]begayalldayRainbow Pill 🏳️🌈 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Things I have seen repeated often in incel subs (back when they still existed) like the use of certain terminology (chad, stacy, roastie, rope, etc) earnestly believing that women are only having sex with some arbitrary low percentage of the top tier of men and that a majority of men are not having sex at all, that women will become shrieking harpies when sex robots become available and all the men on earth abandon them and have robot girlfriends, that all women cheat with chads every opportunity they have, and that women literally hate men who are not conventionally attractive, and want them dead.
I realize there is a lot of crossover between incel ideology and redpill ideology, but I still call it like it is.
[–]Peacesquad 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
A lot of this is monolithic and hyperbolic. You really use that and slap ALL _____ THINK LIKE THIS. that’s a little asinine don’t you think?
[–]begayalldayRainbow Pill 🏳️🌈 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No, I do not think that every single person in every group agrees with everything, and never once said as much, but when you see certain ideas and terminology often repeated and agreed upon within the same group of people, it’s fair to call it an ideology of that group.
[–]Peacesquad 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ok. And would you say some of those things have some type of validity to them, minus the hyperbole and generalization?
[–]begayalldayRainbow Pill 🏳️🌈 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (16 children) | Copy Link
u/funnystor
No I would not be insulted. Mainly because I don’t take my own gender all that seriously and I have a masculine presentation, so it wouldn’t be that much of a shock if someone thought I was a man. Either way “man” is not a slur either. If someone called me a man, they would be mistaken or incorrect, but it’s not an insult.
[–]funnystorPills are for addicts 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Would you be insulted if someone called you "a straight"? "A foreigner" in your own country? Anything else that you aren't?
[–]begayalldayRainbow Pill 🏳️🌈 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (14 children) | Copy Link
No, why would I be insulted? Confused maybe, but there’s nothing wrong with being straight or being foreign.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (13 children) | Copy Link
This is BULLSHIT and you know it 🤣misgendering a trans person is literally a crime in some places. So if it’s not an insult, why is it a crime?
[–]begayalldayRainbow Pill 🏳️🌈 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I said that it’s not an issue for me and that is the truth. Whether it a crime or not to intentionally misgender someone, that doesn’t mean that he/him or she/her are slurs. I think you all are missing the point. Gay is not a slur. Straight is not a slur. Incel is the term that certain people who are involuntarily celibate came up with for themselves and the word itself is not a slur.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (11 children) | Copy Link
They’re slurs to the right person. It’s classified as “hate speech” as if that’s a thing 😂
[–]begayalldayRainbow Pill 🏳️🌈 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (10 children) | Copy Link
That’s not how slurs work.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Wrong. The N word is a slur to some people and not a slur to others. Move along.
[–]begayalldayRainbow Pill 🏳️🌈 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (8 children) | Copy Link
It still a slur, even if some people it had been used against decide to reclaim it for themselves. The fact that you won’t even type it out tells me that on some level you know that “incel” is not on the same level as the N word or f*g. Nobody ever calls it “the I word”. And lastly the N word is not a word that was invented by black people as a descriptor for themselves. Incel is.
[–]cryptochacha 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Reddits favourite word anytime a man disagrees with a woman. It’s so bad that even Reddit mods on other subs who are power hungry and get no money to do this miserable job, can now put a incel label on whoever they please and get away with it.
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[–]Most_Anything_173 23 points24 points25 points 1 year ago (49 children) | Copy Link
Probably 90% of posts on this sub are about how difficult it is for men to get sex, in some form or another. It's no wonder you guys get called involuntarily celibate -- what else are people meant to assume from the excessive whinging about the sexual marketplace?
Probably 90% of posts on this sub are about how difficult it is for men to get sex, in some form or another.
It's no wonder you guys get called involuntarily celibate -- what else are people meant to assume from the excessive whinging about the sexual marketplace?
Nah, bluepill people have some serious high school mean-girl energy. They just love to throw around personal insults regardless of the topic of conversation. Even the bluepill guys are like that.
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[–]Ducks_Are_WatchingNo Pill, I'm on rehab 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not necessarily, a lot of men have had previous sexual encounters but struggle to find new people all the same. Not only incels struggle with dating.
[–]NelsonManswella 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
bingo
[–]Most_Anything_173 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (42 children) | Copy Link
So you're saying the constant posts here about how difficult it is to get sex aren't from involuntarily celibate men?
So you're saying the constant posts here about how difficult it is to get sex
aren't
from involuntarily celibate men?
I'm saying the bluepill people love to make passive-aggressive and insulting comments regardless of the topic. The conversation could be about taxes and bluepill people are going to make things personal.
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[–]Most_Anything_173 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (39 children) | Copy Link
If you think you disagree with me, why aren't you answering the question?
I gave you the answer, you just didn't like it. "They just love to throw around personal insults regardless of the topic of conversation". That was my position from the beginning and I haven't deviated from it. You are just trying to muddy the waters.
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[–]Most_Anything_173 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (37 children) | Copy Link
I responded by saying the insults happen regardless if the person is an incel or the topic of conversation. I don't understand why you are having such difficulty with this concept.
[–]TodoBienTodoBonito1 points 1 year ago* [recovered] (36 children) | Copy Link
I'm not asking you who insults people, why, or under what conditions.
I'm asking you who makes the posts about sex being so difficult to get, if not involuntarily celibate men.
Who?
[–]Most_Anything_173 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (35 children) | Copy Link
That was never relevant to the point I was making. That is just something you latched onto for some reason.
[–]gucciwillis 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're so right and this exchange was very funny to read, idk why this guy couldn't just say incels
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
What do you mean you guys? Is that a racist remark?
[–]KamuiObito 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😂😂😂
If the shoe fits.....
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]tradtrad100 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's almost as if the word incel has transcended it's original meaning to just be a general insult such as other words like bitch and pussy
[–]Stunning-Spirit5275 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Today some men are called “incels”. Some years ago some men were called “fags”. Oh the irony
[–]gucciwillis 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
don't they have different meanings?
[–]KoipiscesNo Pill 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (24 children) | Copy Link
Its not about wether the person had sex. All PPD men (not all but a good majority) talk about is sex and how it is unfair they don’t get sex and how women owe them sex and how a woman’s value is based on with how many men she slept with because they themselves can’t get laid so how dare those women and they think those women should be shamed.
Incels are people (predominantly men) who never had a meaningful relationship with the sex they are attracted to, obviously. If the cis incel men had, they wouldn’t lump all women together as Chad-loving creatures who reject all men under 6ft. Every time a woman in PPD puts things in perspective she gets called a liar because these men think they know women, yet never had a conversation with women irl or they wouldn’t think this way. Problem is also that I don’t think these men would want female friends. Also probably too far gone to want a meaningful relationship. And the self pity parties here are also almost amusing.
I just hope incels will start to actually listen to Jordan Peterson. Because a lot seem to cherry pick what JP and other male influencers say.
Also incels always remind me of the awkward non-fashionable nerdy boy in class, who people say he got picked on because he didn’t fit in. While in reality that guy was always acting up aggressive, never bothered to be friendly or make friends and be genuinely interested in trying to understand others, and was just outcasting himself. The guy I’m thinking of in my own class even picked his nose in class and for the life of me I could never understand how he could not understand that doing so is beyond disgusting in class.
I also feel incels have mental problems, the complete lack of trying to understand the world and others gives me sociopath/psychopath vibes. And I also think that calling someone an incel isn’t wrong when the shoe fits. If you take it as an insult, take it so. You can call me feminist but I am and don’t take that as an insult lmao.
[–]Ducks_Are_WatchingNo Pill, I'm on rehab 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link
So basically you wrote this entire manifesto just to blame men for being bullied, made fun of them for their lack of experience and said if they're being called incel they deserve it. Way to prove the meme wrong buddy, lol
[–]KoipiscesNo Pill 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Bullying is always wrong, and I don’t blame them for being bullied, I’m just saying there is a perspective. Someone can internalize others being friendly to them as an attack, even if they meant well. Someone can internalize someone being just friendly the wrong way. And because they take it as an attack they will get defensive and be mean to the other person(s) who then think ok this person is just hateful let’s no longer try to hang out and outcast the person. I have seen the boy from class being approached in kind ways but he took it as them mocking him. He had trust issues with others and society I guess. It goes both ways. Its not just he got bullied and he was an innocent man while others were bad.
Even I can relate to the not trusting the intention of others part “nerds” sometimes have coz I had a crush on middle school and he liked me back and wanted to dance during school dance but I thought he was out to get me and has bad intentions. I didn’t trust popular boys and he was one and I was normie. Now in hindsight, I still laugh about it (and cry). I shot myself in the foot taking it as an attack and ofcourse he never bothered anymore. Even asked me why I was so mean.
And there is nothing wrong with inexperience, but you can often tell from their hateful stories that they just are. That is just observation. I hope these guys will some day change and try to make friends with women again. If someone is an incel, they are incel. It’s only an offensive if you take it as an offensive. Some people use feminist as an offensive but I don’t see it as an offensive because I know what it stands for in reality. I take it as my interpretation. Why should an incel be offended when called one?
[–]Ducks_Are_WatchingNo Pill, I'm on rehab 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Bullying is always wrong, and I don’t blame them for being bullied, I’m just saying there is a perspective.
I'm sorry, but the fact you're going out of your way to see the perspective of bullies and not the bullied says a lot. Bullies don't deserve empathy, they deserve punishment.
Someone can internalize others being friendly to them as an attack, even if they meant well. Someone can internalize someone being just friendly the wrong way.
Sure, it still doesn't justify bullying that person back regardless of how weird they seem.
And because they take it as an attack they will get defensive and be mean to the other person(s) who then think ok this person is just hateful let’s no longer try to hang out and outcast the person.
People not wanting to hang out with you isn't a problem. But we all know it doesn't just stop there. Your friends can find this weird boy rude and not want anything to do with him, absolutely. But if they start targeting him they are assholes.
This boy has development issues and the last thing he needs is to become a target of abuse, which is what usually happens with weird kids who were bullied.
He had trust issues with others and society I guess. It goes both ways. Its not just he got bullied and he was an innocent man while others were bad.
He was innocent and they were bad. Being mean isn't cool but it's not like he's harassing them. If they started to mistreat this kid they are the only ones to blame 100%. Also ngl but you're giving the vibe you have participated in this bullying with how much you defend these guys.
Now in hindsight, I still laugh about it (and cry). I shot myself in the foot taking it as an attack and ofcourse he never bothered anymore. Even asked me why I was so mean.
Don't beat yourself over it, you were a kid and it's normal to be weary of people's intentions after you lived through certain experiences. The most important thing is to grow from it.
And there is nothing wrong with inexperience, but you can often tell from their hateful stories that they just are.
Hmm, not necessarily. Sometimes unhappiness and bitterness can manifest in messed up ways, even if the person doesn't really believe what they're saying. I think to be an incel you need to be quite deep on the shit hole, but I see a lot of people throwing the insult around freely just to insult others. This sub is quite guilty of this.
I hope these guys will some day change and try to make friends with women again.
That's the thing, I think a few of them do have female friends and other platonic relationships with women, but I believe they see them as "one of the good ones", so to speak. Their experiences with women they are interested have been so negative that I don't think simply making female friends will change their entire outlook on women. It's a pretty complicated issue.
If someone is an incel, they are incel. It’s only an offensive if you take it as an offensive. Some people use feminist as an offensive but I don’t see it as an offensive because I know what it stands for in reality. I take it as my interpretation. Why should an incel be offended when called one?
C'mon now, we know those terms aren't the same in the slightest. Feminism can be seen as negative, true, but it also is usually seen in a positive light as it is about uplifting women to the same level as men in society, aka fighting for equality. Inceldom has no connotations other than negative ones, so it's not like one could be called one and take that as a compliment, as the term is only used to insult.
[–]KoipiscesNo Pill 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Not trying to defend real bullies here, but sometimes we can internalize attacks that aren’t really attacks. I know what that looks like, also perspective can change with age too.
And still, why do we need to be taking all the “real women are sht, you will all be left once we have fembot” type of posts? So incels can bully women now? Just because some women in the past or people were mean to them, that doesn’t justify that they can shit post all over the place. We know most are just pure trolls, especially during purge, but even during normal PPD times I see some awful posts about women as if women are just meant for the man’s pleasing or what not.
So what now? Is shit posting and forever hating women the way? How can incels improve their lives and stop being so damn bitter? Are pity party posts and oppression Olympics the way? Clearly they aren’t open to a woman’s opinion.
[–]Ducks_Are_WatchingNo Pill, I'm on rehab 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are correct, but have been bullied my entire school career pretty much, mostly targeted at my looks, I know how the average person's experiencing with bullying is, and seldomly it comes from well intentioned interactions that the victim misinterpreted, most kids at tween age beyond are complete shitheads, and quite a few remain assholes as adults too.
So no, I don't believe it's about perspective.
You don't, I don't condone openly hating women and thinking y'all are whores or whatever. But I can understand their frustration in regards to how much women tend to dismiss their experiences and make it about how they're the only problem.
When discussing the incel problem plenty of women refuse to admit how these types of men tend to get targeted at school and refuse to acknowledge that reaching out to them before they become radicalized is the only solution. It's way easier to demonize everyone as a misogynist rather than acknowledging are issues are real and valid.
I'd argue that's why so many men gravitate to the menosphere, women just don't take our issues seriously, and a few even make fun of us for it. That can create quite a lot of resentment over time (I'm not saying men don't do the same to women, just talking about my perspective as a men relating to masculine issues)
Also I don't agree with the majority of takes from men in this sub, so yeah I don't think a lot of those posts are cool.
Like I said, incels are the symptom not the disease. As long as bullying goes unchecked, adults and school faculty are negligent towards children, and society in general learns to be wayyy more empathetic, incels are just going to ever increase each year.
As for individual incels, a lot are beyond help. A few can be helped yes, but it's gonna take a lot of patience and thick skin, and I don't really expect that out of people. But one thing that can always help is just not dismissing men in general, our experiences, if someone isn't attacking you try to show kindness over defensiveness, that sort of thing. Other than that, it's 100% up to them to figure out.
[–]JDWhiz96Suburbs 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They’re not gonna stop being bitter. People like you - especially women - go out of their way to defend those who bully them and attempt to use the Just World Fallacy to make their plight seem okay. These men only become jaded after years of gaslighting, blame, and abuse at the hands of women, which they are promptly blamed for themselves. When no one listens or only mockingly listen, these men become hardened and bitter, and rightfully so.
[–]KoipiscesNo Pill -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First of all, not defending the bullies, it’s just challenging the perspective. The boy in my class was outcasted, but not because everyone just decided to hate him, it’s not black and white.
Also, is it ok then to let them ramp all over everyone on the internet because the poor things dealt with mean women? I’ve also dealt with mean men. Men here mock women all the time too. I don’t really care. And I’m def. not going to hate all men for it. Let’s get a grip here.
And nobody’s gonna achieve anything being bitter and jaded. So what’s the point? Is it a coping mechanism? A stress reliever? They want to bully now and feel “empowered” by this?
[–]KoipiscesNo Pill 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]KoipiscesNo Pill 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Incels love to get female friends and meaningful relationships, right, yet they are completely hateful towards women. Make it make sense!!
JP is phrased by RP, but ok. He has conservative views.
And unfairly outcasted? I have yet to meet an incel irl that hasn’t been on the fence and aggressive when others try to give them advice.
Do you think you are a genuinely nice person and just got picked on? I’m sure you were just like my classmate but dealing with lack of self awareness. It makes sense that they are skeptical to people who try to be nice and help them, but often they react in “defense” mode like you are doing now. Your post is a good example actually. It’s often social awkwardness as well.
Rad fem is different from incel ideology, but ok. Some extremists pop up but that’s the minority. Go to an actual rad fem sub Reddit like fourth wave feminism. You’ll see the difference. I’m not even rad or lib though.
And no, I have seen genuine incel posts during purge week and let’s admit that the level of incel posts was high during the purge.
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[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
most TRPers are bluepilled cucks.
these terms have truly lost all meaning.
Even TRP isn't TRP anymore.
[–]KoipiscesNo Pill -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just because you get rejected by women, it’s ok to hate women? If you really want to female friends and a real relationship, you would work on self reflection.
Why don’t they like me? What am I doing wrong? Etc. Which is also what JP teaches but yeah if you already dismiss that you will just be bitter forever. So your solution is being bitter forever? Should incels just keep hating on women and be bitter forever? Wait on those fembots so they can finally have some action because mean women aren’t allowing them? Should they just die a virgin? Is that your advice??
Also I was just making observations about incels in general which you took personally, anyways.
And I think I explained about lib fem and rad fem being different and twoXChromosones is totally lib. I barely look there nowadays because not much real feminist posts, and while I can be empathic, a lot of victim posts that ask advice but aren’t in that sense contributing to how we can improve current society through feminism. You will always have the people posting shi writing “men” while is just some shtty men in reality, but Fourthwavewomen is actually more nuanced in that and shares things that are worth discussing. If I had to choose I’d go rad not lib.
And I only use incel when the person clearly has never had real interactions with “females”. I know there are dudes here who are TRP that I completely disagree with but they aren’t incel so I would call them so. Some people want us to use black pill instead of incel but I don’t even want to use these pill references. TRP doesn’t really have an alternative name though. I can call them conservatives but still not the same.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I’m not reading all that. I’m happy for you tho. Or sorry that happened.
[–]KoipiscesNo Pill 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Ofcourse you wouldn’t want to read anything that goes against your own post, got it lmao.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (8 children) | Copy Link
How would I know if it agrees with me or disagrees with me if I didn’t read it? Silly woman.
[+]KoipiscesNo Pill -6 points-5 points-4 points 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Why even post if you aren’t even up for a discussion? Silly man. Keeps you narrow minded.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I’m up for discussion I’m just not reading a thesis. Get to the point.
[–]KoipiscesNo Pill -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It’s not that long. We both know it. You only want to read what you want to read. Keep being narrow minded and living in your own bubble.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Muhh buhhbble
[–]KoipiscesNo Pill 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The immaturity level here is insane. Anyways.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh sorry. I thought this was Reddit.
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[–]NewSpekt 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True.
[+][deleted] -15 points-14 points-13 points 1 year ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Don’t wanna be called an incel? Stop saying incel shit.
[–]livinginlyon 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Full faith question: what's incel-like speech?
[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
What it’s not - “I’m lonely and directionless. Every human relationship seems transactional and I have terrible trouble relating to women. I feel like I missed out on some key lesson that everyone else didn’t, and now I feel like I’m going to miss out on love, sex and connection. I hate myself and I don’t know what to do.”
What it is - “feminism means women only fuck Chad. Women have evolved to be shopping. Because my skull is the wrong shape I will never know a woman’s touch. Something something hypergamy.”
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good Lord…
“A woman said a mean thing, so now I’m going to hate myself and everyone else. That’ll show them.”
[–]livinginlyon 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thank you! So, pseudo-intellectual memes that misattributes responsibility of ones lack of access to intimacy?
[–]loverofrain777 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]meddit-throwaway 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So if someone doesn't agree with your blue pill beliefs (or even better, provides studies to prove them wrong) you resort to personal insults, got it.
[–]LiterallyAdonis 30 points31 points32 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Incel shit just means disagreeing with a woman on this sub lol
[–]-angels-fan-Pitbull loving male feminist 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I believe men's problems should get better attention than it does.
INCEL!!!
You're right. I brought it on myself.
[–]Owner2229 -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
men's problems
When your "men's problems" is you have nowhere to put your dick then yes, you're an incel.
Also "this entire sub" got recently overtaken by incels, since it's the only shit posted. So you're talking about your fellows.
[–]Ducks_Are_WatchingNo Pill, I'm on rehab 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What a beautiful way of describing the desire for forming romantic connections. Y'all are as bad as the incels
[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Literally no one is doing this.
You’re inventing people to get mad at.
[–]-angels-fan-Pitbull loving male feminist 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It happens all the time
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If by “mens problems” you mean hooting about woms only wanna fuck Chad, then yeah.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]KamuiObito 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t wanna be called a thot? Don’t be a thot..wish it worked like that fr tho
[–]Decent-Zombie-5513 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
this is going to get removed.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah. My account is so new my posts don’t get auto-approved. This one was manually approved 😘
[–]Flightlessbirbz -5 points-4 points-3 points 1 year ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Meh, sometimes the shoe fits. I see people using “incel” indiscriminately sometimes but I also see a lot of men sounding like incels then throwing a fit when they’re called out.
[–]DicamVeritatemRed Pill Man 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What exactly does an incel sound like?
[+]Flightlessbirbz -7 points-6 points-5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Their call is typically sort or a braying sound, similar to a donkey, a sad, unpleasant, and very loud, “he-haw.”
Seriously though, when men start acting like women are wrong and bad for not wanting to have sex with them or less attractive guys in general, that’s when it reads “incel-ish” to me. Maybe they don’t consider themselves incels, but there’s at least some of that type of thinking going on. I personally avoid that word because it’s loaded and usually unnecessary, but I get why others would make that connection.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Wouldn’t you need to know someone’s sexual activity to know if they’re celibate or not? 🤔
[–]Flightlessbirbz -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
When they are complaining about not having sex, it’s kinda obvious.
[–]Ducks_Are_WatchingNo Pill, I'm on rehab 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Non virgins can also struggle to find new partners
[–]Flightlessbirbz 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Not all incels are virgins.
[–]Ducks_Are_WatchingNo Pill, I'm on rehab 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
By definition a non virgin can't be an incel
[–]Flightlessbirbz 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not necessarily. You can be currently celibate and have had sex before in the past. Not sure why you can’t also be involuntarily celibate and have had sex in the past. I don’t look at incel shit anymore, but I seem to recall there being some arguments about this, like virgin incels claiming non-virgins couldn’t be “real” incels, but they clearly still thought of themselves that way.
[–]rootsnyder 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
shut up incel
[–]Flightlessbirbz -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How dare you, me and my husbot are very happy thank you very much, you’re just a jealous ugly flesh-male 😡😭
[–]hoopladoopla661 points 1 year ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
I thought this sub was neutral. Wtf is this shit.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Somebody missed the purge. Cry about it.
[–]uncertain_confusion 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What was the purge? I’m so confused cause everyone is talking about it and I have no idea what’s going on
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The first week of the year this sub has no rules.
[–]pearllovespink -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Hell fucking no. A lot of you losers will insult and troll women on this sub when the conversation doesn’t go your way. Then you get mad when you get labeled an incel with your weird asses.
[–]pizzarelatedmap 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The lady doth protest too much, methinks
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Thanks for proving my point incel lol
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (8 children) | Copy Link
The only point you have is your pointy nose.
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Incel talk
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Mad
[–]pearllovespink1 points 1 year ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
Or maybe I truly believe that you’re an incel?
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Congratulations. Don’t care. Hole.
[–]pearllovespink 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you didn’t care you wouldn’t have labeled me “mad”
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seethe harder
[–]catchtowards12345Red Pill Man[M] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Be civil.
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Not sure what I said was uncivil. This thing commented on my post calling men at large “losers” and “weird asses”. I only give what is received.
[–]anonnewengland 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
30%+ of men are by definition incels... the only difference now is that men aren't getting married at the rates we once were. As a result the population has declined and marriage is becoming very scarce. What man wants to risk all their hard work for a chance at a marriage? The lotto has better odds of a good outcome for men. At least the lotto doesn't make you pay alimony or child support when you lose. We are going to see a lot of elderly homeless women over the next 20 years and won't have the working age population to support them through taxes and government programs. Japan is getting hit with this right now.
What a lot of women haven't realized is that while some men will break down and simp for them (even after they grow older and get pumped and dumped for a decade) there are a lot of men who will be running up on the finish line (where these women are waiting to take our rewards) and instead will be flipping them off and laughing at them as we retire and they work at Walmart for another 20 years. While we would have preferred to have a wife before... after all our hard work, while alone, we learned to be content on our own. Men tend to be satisfied with their lives, women less so.
A nice relaxing day for a man can be free or even provide a benefit, like fishing or hunting or even gardening. Women's activities usually cost money and are experiences, not hobbies and definitly are not productive. If you plopped most men down on a riverbank in Alaska with a gold pan, they would have a blast and spend hours a day panning for gold just for fun. Not many women willing to stand in the freezing cold creek all day. Remember when women made their own clothing? My mom did that when she was younger, as an attorney! I don't know more than a handful of women who can even sew nowadays.
Bear grylls The Island season 2. Watch it. Men thrive and women almost die. All men want now is a little respect for the actual and factual things we provide in the society instead of being crapped on 24-7 for doing what we are supposed to do. Women made us choose between the right thing to do and what women want. We gave it to you, reap the consequences for a few generations.
Ps I'm a super liberal guy. This is why I can sit back and watch it all burn. Lmao. Consequences.
[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Lol who makes these drawings
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I drew it myself.
[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I love it haha
[–]churnandburnerTaken But Enjoy Turning Female Pigs To Bacon[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I didn’t really
[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh. Bummer
[–]LupeDyCazari 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do you explain all the kiddos who start to gaslight women as soon as the women speak about their life experiences and their preferences in men, because what these women say don't align with the mentally ill obsession half the guys on this sub have with ''Chad''?
It's pretty easy to figure out these dudes are old as balls in their mid 20s and up, and still have little to no experience with women. Like Pope Francis. But at least he chose to be like that. What excuses do the incel have to be 20, 25, 30, 35, 40 years old and to still be a virgin?
''it's because women only want 6'6'' broad-shouldered muscular men, and the men have to be pristine white Caucasian with blond hair,'' LMAO.
[–]SoldierExcelsior 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Better than a pedo or groomer
[–]Mean_Veterinarian688 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
while it is thrown around baselessly dont pretend like incels and their delusional spiteful consequent philosophy dont exist and in huge numbers
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