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I finally went to Asia and married a really loyal and beautiful Taiwanese woman.
But I was talking to my nephew the other day who has moved in with his girlfriend, and she's making more and more demands on him (and he's only 22, works out of state in construction almost all the time). She reads like a spoiled, confused, and narcissistic "six." I gave him the following advice:
I calculated my 20-something relationships back in the states. For all the times I had sex with those women, versus the costs to my life in years and money, for example to "prove" I could be "independent" to my college sweetheart while I was still yet to finish my degree, or moving in together to show a girl I was "serious" -- prostitutes would have been cheaper.
100 times having sex a year x 200 USD is about 20 grand a year. I spent 8 years graduating from college with a four year degree because I was bending over backwards and breaking myself trying to please my girlfriends (White Knight mentality), and I was unhappy the whole time.
I wanted companionship and believed that digging out of holes I didn't even know I was in, was the cost of admission -- alternative being loneliness. College took literally twice as many years, and I make a lot more than 20K a year ever since I left college.
Prostitutes would have been cheaper.
Plus, they ONLY COST MONEY. This is not to be underestimated.
The emotional and mental cost of relationships in America would have put me in the MGTOW category had I not discovered that some women can be loyal and also trusting of both their own innocence and mine.
I have see a few Western guys in my own group of expat friends go through a real healing process just through the process of dating NICE GIRLS, both in South India and East Asia.
But barring this kind of healing, and coming across a really lovely girl to settle down with, I would probably just go with prostitutes any time I felt lonely. Much cheaper, and do away with a lot of non-monetary costs, which are even more significant.
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Did you check my math? At least in my case it just wasn't. And as for your math, I don't know anyone for whom a girlfriend only costs 50 bucks a year. And if you're in fact having sex every other day, then you live together. I really HOPE she's a a great person to be around ALL THE TIME.
Also, after that string of nonsense being a White Knight, I did do the PUA thing for awhile. I do get the response of "I am proud that I don't 'have to' pay for it" in these conversations. That's fine if someone feels that way.
But I've also seen plenty of PUA guys spending hours wandering around clubs with shitty loud electronic music or hip hop, sometimes pulling. How many nights out was it? How much gas?
I mean, what's your hourly rate? If you don't get laid two nights in a row, then at a lowly ten bucks an hour, you're nearly at a hundred bucks. Add in your gas and your entrance fees and tips on that tonic and lime.
If your time is worth at least twenty bucks an hour, all this time for PUA looks even worse. 200 bucks for a hooker in the USA makes sense. Of course if you LIKE shouting to people in bars and listening to electronic music or hip hop, then fine. But a lot of people don't. And day game at coffee shops and bookstores still costs a lot in time. You following up on those numbers? Spending time on forums working on your jedi mind? It's a huge amount of time for a lot of guys. And I have watched some damned cool PUAs not get laid two nights in a row plenty of times.
Meanwhile you could be doing any number of other profitable things, building your empire.
And back to the point about girlfriends, hookers still ONLY COST MONEY. Most girlfriends of most guys I know amount to dead weight on their lives, like my 22 year old cousin and like 22 year old me in the past. Even in Asia I see it in my expat group. A lot of guys would be much better off emotionally and monetarily "going their own way." At 38 I see this a lot when I look around. At 28 I didn't get it.
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I'm fine with it and think it should be legalized.
But it can't be used as a replacement for a real relationship
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