VR will diminish the beta bux option

Docbear64 · 2016-07-23T16:48:58+00:00

I can see this as an issue in maybe 2 years at this point cost, the space required for something like a vive, and the lack of personal porn experiences yet still haven't created the ecosystem for this to become prominent . However I know many beta men who would welcome the ease of a VR dating , m'lady, and ultimately sex simulation . Once someone makes a big investment into an interactive VR porn experience that can get you off I am sure many betas will flock to it .

I have never researched but I wonder comparatively how successful the makers of Real Dolls are . That's a few decades from being a sex bot itself and in a similar group of lifeless sexual receptacles for the struggling man .

red_tunasian · 2016-07-23T19:11:09+00:00

I think most men won't use dolls. Watching free porn on computer is one thing, but buying and keeping a physical object is something else.

solidsnork · 2016-07-23T19:31:01+00:00

To anyone who thinks this is a bad idea, there are always gonna be omega males who cannot get a female. This will give the poor fucks something and hopefully prevent real females taking that man's resources. There are always gonna be some men who won't get in shape or just put effort to get women or are just too ugly. This also takes some men out of the market as competition. So its good news all around.

VanityKings · 2016-07-23T19:56:15+00:00

Don't plan on using VR to achieve sexual gratification myself, but really looking forward to seeing how the SMP changes when the majority of beta men check out and into VR.
But in all likelihood feminists will foam at the mouth when they realize that Chad never wanted them and their back up plans are no longer interested

CQC3 · 2016-07-23T17:58:32+00:00

This is going to be disastrous and fucking hilarious at the same time.

erdogans_nephew · 2016-07-23T18:36:46+00:00

Men will always do dumb shit to get with a real female.

Our entire conscience gets over-ridden just to chase pussy, TRP is about fighting that, even nature knows how fucking shit women are lol.

Magnum256 · 2016-07-23T20:46:40+00:00

It'll be nothing but upside when it happens. Most of these beta bux don't even "love" the woman they're with, they just tolerate the situation for a wet hole to fuck once in awhile. If they can replace that with a semi-realistic/lifelike experience through VR I think many will, and be much happier for it.

The real losers will be those low quality women, the hardcore feminists, bitches, fatties, who have, so far, always been able to find some sad beta to tie down. Once there's less of those betas on the market, and the high SMV guys don't want anything to do with them, they'll have very few options. I'm really looking forward to this, it's a kind of karmic justice in many ways against the liberal feminist "progress" over the last 5-10 years.

Might all sound a bit far fetched but I don't doubt there'll be some serious social implications at the very least once the VR stuff really goes mainstream. (Maybe a bit off tangent, but just look at the social implications of something like Pokemon Go over the few short weeks since its release. If the barrier of entry and price point are reasonable enough I would expect a similar phenomenon occurring with VR, but on an exponentially larger scale)

Newbosterone · 2016-07-23T21:30:07+00:00

Guess what? Diminished beta bux opportunities won't matter.

For the last 52 years (in America), the role of beta bux has already been usurped by Uncle Sam.

The social stigma around an unwed woman having a child has vanished. Except in upper middle class and some traditionalist immigrant communities, it has become the norm.
Most 'churchian' congregations have become thoroughly Blue Pill. The focus is on the sinful man who led a loving woman astray, and 'Christian' charity for heroic single moms, not on proscribing sex outside of marriage.
It has become socially acceptable to live on welfare for women, especially heroic single mothers. When the cost of welfare became too high, politicians used the court system to directly task 'the man responsible'. Broad definitions of paternity are used to create a responsible man if necessary. (In my state, you must challenge paternity in the first two years in most cases; however, a woman can what up to 23 years to claim it!). This is all justified "in the best interest of the child", although it is women who benefit most.

scubar · 2016-07-23T23:37:39+00:00

I welcome it.

Modern women place such a high price on their sexuality that sooner or later, something is going to come along that meets that need at a much lower price and risk to the buyer.

This will now force them to maybe actually become decent people again, rather than the ego-driven narcissists who feel that they should be worshiped because they exist and are female.

In the meanwhile, they can scissor each other and cry on Tumblr for all I care.

YungSwami · 2016-07-23T19:09:14+00:00

I tried a $50 google cardboard variant with has a headstrap and it didn't really click for me, maybe if you decide to blow $1000 it would be worthwhile, thanks for the review

maybe this will spark a generation of Herbivore men in North America

drallcom3 · 2016-07-23T20:56:16+00:00

The current endless stream of porn already does the trick. VR is just icing on the cake.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2016-07-23T19:50:07+00:00

I'm thinking of the reverse for women. She shows up as a gorgeous model and has thousands of orbiters around her like a concert. She doesn't care if she is "naked" because it's not really her, but she'll bathe in the attention.

Royalartist · 2016-07-23T23:15:56+00:00

"Given the shitty economic / life prospects for lots of young men these days" Is that not the reason drugs exist? VR is rather like a drug but is better. It is an escape from a dreary world into a new, and much better, reality just like taking drugs. The advantages are obvious. Long term much cheaper, better "fix" I would imagine and totally controllable to the experience you want. No health risks and no interaction with shady dealers. As with drugs the popularity will depend on the quality and as the quality improves the number of men using it will increase. Women and drug dealers will be priced totally out of the market. Women will have to offer more to get any kind of attention at all. Like a real marriage contract that is enforceable to a mutual agreement. That would be a good start for sure.

Zachar1a · 2016-07-23T18:08:47+00:00

And you are doing your part to make this a reality, haha!

DarthExero · 2016-07-24T03:36:57+00:00

This is a very temporary technology. Eventually there will be a technology which enables you to plug your brain directly into a virtual world not unlike the Matrix where you can be fucking AI whores and to your brain it will seem 100% real. Likewise in this AI world you could also take a different body to yours, to your brain it will all feel very real.

http://singularityhub.com/2015/01/26/ray-kurzweils-mind-boggling-predictions-for-the-next-25-years/

While this may on one hand kill the desire for men to need women. This will completely kill the desire for women to seek resources from men because physical scarcity will change drastically.

Xanderab · 2016-07-24T01:55:00+00:00

The type of guys who would use VR porn in place of talking to actual women, are the types of guys who don't leave the house anyways.

SomeGuyNY · 2016-07-23T23:01:10+00:00

It took me the longest time to understand why women haven't lashed out much harder against pornography. Oh sure, there are some groups on the far right and far left who oppose smut, but in general women seem to accept and even tacitly support porn use. I think there are two reasons for this.

The first is that they understand that fake sex is not nor ever will be as good as real sex. There is such a difference between porn and having incredible sex with a woman. You can have a quick fap and squirt one out, or you can hold onto a woman through a bucking orgasm. There's just no comparison. No matter how good VR porn will be, BBs and AFs will still want flesh-and-blood women.

The second reason is this: women like porn too. Not as much as guys do. But chicks will watch smut and get off to it as well. Women are filthy; but they have to decide a guy has a high enough SMV to reveal how filthy.

Despite both these reasons, I think there will be an eventual backlash by women against porn. Women might watch porn too, but nowhere near as much as men, and since it's easier for them to get the real thing, it's easier for them to give up the fake. And while porn isn't as good as the real thing, if the real thing is just too much effort to get, then porn is the next best thing. It's not so much that porn will get better, it's that girls will get shittier. Women will eventually just push themselves to a rough corner of the market.

For TRP, I'd just say get off porn. I realized the other day when talking to a girl who was kinda average-looking that I'd rather go home and fap than make any move on her. And that's a scary thought.

redzorp · 2016-07-23T23:31:46+00:00

A close contact of mine is a developer and got an early release of the HTC Vive a few months ago. The first moment I tried it, I was floored. Within seconds I blurted out, "This will change the world. Human beings will never be the same." He concurred. In fact, everyone at his company pretty much felt the same way.

The best way I can describe some of the higher-end experiences within HTC Vive is simply: Dreaming With Your Eyes Open.

When I first put on that headset, I wasn't just seeing the generation 1 tech in front of my eyes. I was seeing the future more than anything else. And don't get me wrong. This first generation tech is already impressive as hell. Way more impressive than the first incarnation of the World Wide Web or the first iPhone. But I think that once the novelty wears off after a few weeks of use, people will mostly be seeing the flaws: pixellation, limited field of view, uncomfortable headset, tethered cabling, etc., etc. All those factors will definitely stall wide-scale implementation of VR for the first 5 years or so.

But all of the flaws will be quickly diminished. Everyone, and I mean everyone who works in the field of VR, has a common vision. We've all seen The Matrix. We've all been weened on a common science fiction vision of the future. All the developers I've talked to are now hard at work fanatically trying to bring that vision to life ASAP. Billions of dollars of capital is rapidly being poured into one VR venture after another.

Within 10 years the vast majority of us will be "plugged in" for at least 5-8 hours per day. We will be putting on comfortable headsets, slightly larger than a pair of sunglasses. And we will be experiencing worlds in a way not much different than the Holodeck from Star Trek, albeit with much more limited tactile feedback. But just think of that for a minute. Think of the potential (and the dangers). And yes, virtual sex will be part of that world. All it takes is a relatively small device with a series of "realistic, lubricated holes" and that feels somewhat fleshy to the touch. The visuals from the headset will do the rest. In some ways VR sex might even be better than the real thing, as the types of bizarre experiences possible are only limited by the imagination of the developers. So if you think porn addiction is a problem today, tomorrow it will be off the charts. I wouldn't be surprised if the government steps in with one draconian censorship measure after another...

I also predict that VR is truly The Last Medium.

The evolution was: stone tablets, print, radio, tv, internet, smartphones and it all ends with VR. From here on out, humans will simply be improving VR, year after year, for centuries to come. Eventually it will literally be The Matrix, with people permanently plugged in, one way or another; Whether that means a chip in the brain or humans in suspended animation with a cable plugged into their heads. Why bother with the real world when you can live in an alternate reality where one has the powers of an Olympian God?

Strange times ahead!

RP-Doctor · 2016-07-24T00:42:51+00:00

I think you're all fucking delusional if you think this is really going to make a noticeable difference.

1) The guys who decide to opt out of the SMP for this will be the guys who don't get any already.

2) Getting women has always been more about the conquest and the psychological turn on rather than the physical stimulation. If stimulation and sensation was really that important, we'd all have fleshlights and exclusively jerk off with lube.

3) This will be taboo as fuck and further condemned by the liberal feminist agenda. Women leaving the SMP to get to know their vibrators better? You go girl! Men leaving the SMP to dive into VR with a silicon doll? What a fucking creepy weirdo! Get back here and provide for a fatty for life like you're supposed to!

4) By the time this becomes even mildly mainstream your biggest concern will be whether or not you can take viagra along with your blood pressure medication.

Basically, not only will this not affect our generation (not due to the technology, but due to slow rates of adoption as a viable alternative to the SMP), but the guys it will affect the most will be the ones who already don't get any. The net effect of this will be that the bottom 3% of women (massive land whales) will be missing their bottom 3% of men as providers, and the top 97% will continue fucking guys way above their pay grade until they're ready to get a free ride for life from some beta they're upset about having to settle for.

PreciselyUnclear · 2016-07-24T05:04:52+00:00

The japanese "herbivore" have been pushing the vr sex robot technology especially hard. Women have been freed of their gender roles due to advancements in medicine and birth control - giving freedom from their functions. While AI, robotics, and VR will eventually do the same for men. There really is a technogy singularity coming and it will make the 90s internet pale in comparison. This may be 1000x greater in scope.

AmericanHistoryAFBB · 2016-07-24T21:41:16+00:00

Yep. I'm going to be picking up the Playstation VR when it comes out this fall. I'm still gonna go after real pussy, and there certainly will be less competition as VR porn becomes the norm, but it's nice to know I could always have immersive sex with a HB 10 without leaving the house. Just like escorts, VR Porn could help with abundance mentality.

As it stands now, I try to stay away from porn as it desensitizes you to the real thing. But VR porn could be a different story, as it will feel like the real thing, so less chance of it fucking with your brain.

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-07-23T22:30:42+00:00

The Globalist Tyranny will be very happy that they got what they wanted.

(assuming the resistance like the Red Pill fails)

siege342 · 2016-07-23T22:56:31+00:00

This is the exact primous of the book "Ready Player One". Spielberg is directing the movie adaption now.

trpobserver · 2016-07-24T05:00:38+00:00

it'll only be a matter of time when VR porn gets combined with fleshlights or silicone dolls

Whats strange to me is I see so few companies putting any effort into it. Do you know of companies currently investing in this arena? I know the big porn companies are jumping on it with VR porn, but I haven't seen investment in the simulation side, using computer models that can be interacted with in real time instead of actors. Seems like there will be a lot of money in that down the line.

elevul · 2016-07-24T11:25:48+00:00

Nice to see this upvoted. When I said it a year go I got downvoted to hell. Good to see that TRP is finally recognizing the effect of VR and sex bots is going to have on the feminine imperative.

It's going to be fun to hear the "where have the good men gone" cries in a few years.

inspiron3000 · 2016-07-24T16:38:52+00:00

There's a music video that illustrates this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHCYHldJi_g

Duke Dumont - I Got U (Official video)

mordanus · 2016-07-24T03:16:56+00:00

I think you're overlooking how easily betas are controlled by shaming them. When people tell them that a real man doesn't play VR they are going to buy into it. I see it as more of an offer to the mgtow types.

Venenarium · 2016-07-24T00:36:47+00:00

I disagree. While I do believe that VR porn will be fantastic, you forget that there is a lot more to having a real-life girlfriend. For example, the social validation, which many men strive for.

In other words: VR porn will be really realistic, but the society will still consider you to be a loser without a real-life GF. Men will want to feel validated, so not much will change.

Merica911 · 2016-07-23T16:46:00+00:00

I got the point you're trying to make.

Always VR is a long long way from being taking serous. I bought a Samsung Galaxy at tmobile and gave me a free vr headset, used it once and hate it.. I get motion sickness. If vr can't solve that problem the whole thing will be at a stand still

joh2141 · 2016-07-23T20:05:55+00:00

Honestly, it is too soon to tell how it'll grow but pretty much I agree on how it'll create a more flux of anti-social people who simply won't go out and all have low SMV but act like 10's.

unicorn-carousel · 2016-07-23T20:25:25+00:00

Also in some metros, to add, fiber gigabit (20-50x cable throughput) at home with sub-5ms pings are becoming common. Musicians can collaborate at 20ms, stew on that for a few minutes.

Down with the filthy bitches, up with bitches who walk the independent woman walk.

Viklove · 2016-07-23T21:04:13+00:00

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aanarchist · 2016-07-23T21:19:41+00:00

welcome to the matrix boys

Snazzy_Serval · 2016-07-24T01:30:26+00:00

VR is very cool and I see it changing the future of gaming. I wouldn't be surprised that in 10 years VR gaming is completely mainstream.

So far the only VR experience I've had was the PlayStation VR demo at a Best Buy. That was enough to convince me and I'm currently saving money to build a new gaming computer + headset.

That said, I really can't understand why a guy would choose a machine fuck over an actual woman. If a guy can't get a woman, then just get a hooker. Of course the US is screwed up and prostitution is only legal in Nevada.

Still it will be nice to have less competition from other guys if VR porn does lead to them checking out of the game.

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88Will88 · 2016-07-24T02:51:36+00:00

Major developers will not touch it as they want to sell a family friendly product. This will mean no x-rated content. Look at Playstation and xbox, there is basically no pornographic content and those platforms have been around forever. GTA had hookers and strippers but even that was very tame compared to the film industry. In order to produce high quality content a big budget is needed and developers will not be able to sell their product into a mainstream market. We will not see any sexual VR for a long time, a sex robot is more likely to hit the market first.

Orthodox-Waffle · 2016-07-24T02:56:42+00:00

So what you're telling is, I won't have to deal with men anymore because they'll all have turned into porn addicted shut-ins who only leave their apartment long enough to sustain their lifestyle?

Is there any way we could accelerate this process?

Daydreamer_V · 2016-07-24T04:06:02+00:00

These betas will receive intimate satisfaction and begin to evolve passed TRP.

Avoid the distraction.

A man who governs women, is still governed by the primitive principles of our ancestors.

PlanB_pedofile · 2016-07-24T04:24:54+00:00

Jesus vr has come a long way since the clunky helmets and 320lpi displays of the 90s.

This year, i checked out a C.A.V.E system for engineering and it's like a star trek holodeck with the tracking, perspective, and speed of rendering.

chances_are_ur_a_fag · 2016-07-24T05:34:46+00:00

reminds of an old episode form batman beyond back in the day. virtual reality hit the point in the future so real that people became addicted to it because their own reality was shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suSt-tf8u9g

Faliceer · 2016-07-24T06:56:05+00:00

Does no one here attempt to Ride the Tiger?

ChadThundercockII · 2016-07-24T10:39:59+00:00

How can I benefit from this to retire early and have a garage full of bikes and yearly trips to the Maldives?

blake3334 · 2016-07-24T13:44:06+00:00

Escapism is killing young men today, there opting out of life. With VR it's gonna get worst, I feel sad for the future.

Luckyluke23 · 2016-07-25T04:51:15+00:00

does anyone remember the popularity of home 3d movies back in the day.

I expect this to be the same as that and google glass. just a flop that goes away in a few years.

porn MIGHT get it going. but i don't know.

apachemd · 2016-07-24T03:50:39+00:00

This very cool, but just the tip of the iceberg. What y'all need to understand is that everything you experience, everything you feel, is nothing but electricity in your brain. We will be able to manipulate that in our lifetime. Now THAT will be true VR sex. It will be exactly like the real thing, or rather, it will be the real thing. When that happens, that is all she wrote my friends. Women lose all power, it becomes a man's world once again.

Why take shit from a 6, when you can bang different 10's with perfect personalities 3 times/day? And you don't have to cuddle with them or listen to their bullshit afterwards! Again, for those luddites who claim they'd instead prefer "the real thing," I recommend you open your mind... what I am talking about is the real thing. It's electricity.

That said if y'all think the feminazis and SJWs or the world are gonna sit by and let VR sex happen without a fight, fat chance. They will fight it to the death.

telenoobies · 2016-07-23T20:05:46+00:00

I really think that you think too lowly of people. Any man would know of his prospects and would understand the situation he is in. Any man under the circumstances which you've provided would know for sure the dire situation that they are in, and would do whatever it takes to crawl out of it... At least thats how I feel.

orange_juice007 · 2016-07-23T20:21:03+00:00

I am in CS and was very interested in upcoming VR. But I think it will be the same as 3D movies - at first it will be a lot of "uuuuh" and "aaaaaa", but after a while people won't use it anymore because it won't be able to be widely used. Remember how 3D glasses are heavy to wear, give people headaches, etc. ... 3D went to shit because of it. I think VR has the same problems, plus all those cables are really in the way of immersion. Don't forget you need bigger room.

makechangegreatagain · 2016-07-24T13:35:44+00:00

I think the only people who will buy into this market are omegas with no hope. That being said, there's still plenty of money to be made and an ever steady demand with the amount of single mothers who don't know how to raise boys giving birth to future neck beards.

The vast majority of men will be shamed by women into not buying into this experience unless maybe they had some discreet way of offering it. Most men aren't purchasing blow up dolls or real dolls because of the "loser" "creep" "weirdo" that will attach to their reputation if someone finds out they're fucking a doll.

dog_mayor · 2016-07-24T23:40:14+00:00

The future is looking bleak.

RICCIedm · 2016-07-23T20:47:06+00:00

Rolling of fucking laughing at people "predicting" what is going to happen with the SMP.

You can't.

TheDialecticParadox · 2016-07-23T22:00:10+00:00

Despite not wanting to admit it, men, like women crave a sexual and romantic partner. Just having some visual stimulus to get your rocks off and then going back to real life isn't enough to keep betas away from women. They will desire conversation, someone to do activities with, a person to share their sorrows with. Since betas usually have no active friends outside of WoW they will place this role on their romantic partner. Vr cant offer that. We are all human and we are all social creatures.

calibrateThought · 2016-07-24T07:19:01+00:00

Neither VR nor sexbots will make a dent in the sexual marketplace, and if they do - you better believe the femtards will lobby hard for them to be made illegal "these devices encourage objectification!".

bluedrygrass · 2016-07-24T07:52:41+00:00

I don't know, i'm vey skeptical about those things having significative impact on society.

At the end of the day, vr is still virtual, and not even very realistic. Betas will keep trying to secure a slut.

The only real change could be made by near-real feeling androids, but we're some 40-50 years far from it.

phoenix_reborn84 · 2016-07-25T04:59:41+00:00

Isn't Moore's Law dying?

I think VR is mostly hype, the future is more likely to be something like Judge Dredd megacities with hundreds of millions of climate refugees than some Kurzweilian wet dream.

99_Problem · 2016-07-24T16:40:29+00:00

Meh.

As a few others said already: the only guys that will forever drop-out of the SMP in favor of VR technology, are guys that aren't (never were) competitive in the SMP anyway. A woman might have a relative or weird co-worker that's a VR shut-in, but other than that, women in general won't even notice.

The guys here wringing their hands and imagining some kind of Matrix-style existence are sub-beta lunatics with a poor understanding of the most basic physical principles. You can't get something from nothing. You need mass to create, build, and sustain things like VR systems and human bodies. Somebody has to do the work.

Point is: go ahead and plug-in and tune-out forever. The world will spin on without you, the third-world can sustain our population for awhile yet to come (they can't afford VR, anyway).

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-07-24T19:58:40+00:00

Except that Beta men look for romantic partners and get easy Oneitis. They don't want to fuck so much like Alpha guys. Even lower tier Dark Triad men (like Narcissists) require real human stimulant.

So women will still hold the monopoly on these people. Real Alpha's though will settle in their groove and become less inclined to fuck low value women.

--Visionary-- · 2016-07-24T21:44:29+00:00

How on god's green earth did 200 comments get posted about this on TRP, and no one made the most obvious prediction:

They will make it a crime for men to use this once it hits that "inflection" point of beta male en masse drop out.

If I had to guess, it'd be by the classic extension of the definition of rape/sexual assault (i.e. "when men have sex with sex bots that are quasi-sentient, that makes him either a rapist on the spot or more likely to rape other women so he must be stopped"). Watch for swaths of "academic literature" reach a cacophony ostensibly "proving" such a point.

And, as we all know, Beta males will generally comply in often the most emasculating and humiliating ways the moment someone threatens them with state power until there's an absolutely epic situation brewing (like someone in government sets off a nuclear bomb and destroys manhattan or something).

The ENTIRE purpose of modern gynocentric western civilization is to ensure that women have some form of productive beta bux, whether by state force or making it impossible for such males to be sexually gratified outside of making a real life woman's life easier, regardless of whether she "deserves" such absurdly wonderful treatment. If there's some disturbance of the force that starts making swaths of beta men reduce their production because they're busy wanking to this new technology, and the average woman doesn't like it, you can bet your ass they'll make some part of that activity a crime.

Title	VR will diminish the beta bux option
Author	SomeGuyNY
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Comments	208
Date	July 23, 2016 4:30 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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