Why men are avoiding marriage

Vidar34 · 2021-08-31T12:36:56+00:00

A risk/reward analysis shows that for men, the risks do not justify the rewards. A cost/benefit analysis shows that the cost of marriage for men does not justify the rewards.

WolfGuy801 · 2021-08-31T12:46:39+00:00

Tired of being used until we're not useful anymore, or sooner if something better comes along. Not worth the loss of 1/2 my assets.

Mycroft033 · 2021-08-31T15:07:32+00:00

Y’know there’s a saying I heard the other day that’s really good.

“Never sign a contract with somebody that will benefit from breaking it.”

Dwaynedibley24601 · 2021-08-31T14:56:34+00:00

"All my wives were great housekeepers, after every divorce, they kept the house"- Willie Pep

Dwaynedibley24601 · 2021-08-31T14:51:23+00:00

Rod Stewart said it best " If I ever want to get married again, ill save time and just find a woman I hate and buy her a house"

throwaway3569387340 · 2021-08-31T15:42:50+00:00

My ex who was "sick" was actually hiding a narcotic habit from me.

In the divorce I got all the debts and she got all the assets plus $3k a month in spousal support. The reason? Because I made a good living and she needed support to make it through rehab so she could get a job. Figure out that fucked up logic.

Needless to say 3 years later she had blown through all the money that I had earned (nearly a half million total) on drugs and was still living off government support. I'll never marry again.

ElegantDecline · 2021-08-31T14:39:11+00:00

ironically, gay men are embracing marriage with each other. what does that tell ya?

Dwaynedibley24601 · 2021-08-31T15:00:20+00:00

Because who wants to cough up HALF their retirement savings or pension because their spouse got "bored"... 30 years of work and savings GONE! every man should get a vasectomy at 17, never marry.. and have kids only after a thoroughly and carefully constructed pre-natal contract has been drafted, signed, and filed with the courts.

Mefic_vest · 2021-08-31T14:50:10+00:00

Remove sex from a relationship and you will discover that over 90% of ladies have nothing to offer in relationships

Remove money from a relationship and you will discover that over 90% of ladies won’t see a reason to be in that relationship

- Trevor Noah

Starforce2005 · 2021-08-31T11:58:42+00:00

Sadly you will hardly find any video created after 2020 with significant amount of views. They almost shadowbanned every pro-male related video.

tenchineuro · 2021-08-31T16:17:43+00:00

There are many factors at play here.

As they grow up boys see what happens to their fathers/relatives/friends/etc in a divorce. Many have decided that they want no part of that. The comments illustrate this quite nicely.
Hypergamy: For women marriage is a financial transaction and they want it to benefit them, as sexism in the school system has resulted in 2/3 of college students being women, a great many women can't find men they consider marriageable (who earn more than they do or have such a potential).
Feminism: Feminism has taught many women that men are evil and to be avoided at all costs.
According to OKCupid, Women Find 80% Of Men Unattractive.
A great many women demand that a man be 6' or taller to consider for a date, as the average height is 5' 9". this leave about 1/2 the men in a lurch. Women don't just want a man taller than they are.

There's more, but both men and women are avoiding marriage today. As a result marriage rates are the lowest since records were first kept.

And women don't have to marry a man to profit, they just have to have his child. Then the government will grant her most of the benefits of a divorce.

As an aside, many areas have dropped the period for common law marriages to a year or two. Which means that shacking up may be as dangerous for the man as a wedding.

BeNice_777 · 2021-08-31T12:05:34+00:00

No surprise here, it is quite simply a horrible deal for the man. I can't imagine why any man would risk it now.

GltyUntlPrvnInncnt · 2021-08-31T16:09:05+00:00

As an older dude, this is my advice to younger guys:
Do not marry, if things go sour, you're royally fucked.

McFeely_Smackup · 2021-08-31T16:39:34+00:00

Men are avoiding marriage because there's literally no benefit to them, and only liabilities.

It's just not a logical choice to make for a man.

Marriage is the only legally binding contract you can sign where you only find out your liabilities and obligation when the contract is broken. You'd never buy a car and sign a loan that says "we'll tell you in 10 years how much you owe", but it's literally what marriage means.

OutkastFromSociety · 2021-08-31T20:18:07+00:00

At 38 years old now and after 4 LTR's that each lasted 2-5 years I finally had a epiphany.....

None of them ever actually gave a shit about me at all. I was merely there to serve a purpose. For some it was just having a tall white guy boyfriend for others it was security/money and just a place to live.

I knew it all along. I would work 55 hours in a week come home exhausted....they never gave a shit that I was killing myself every day. It was always about them every conversation every argument.

Looking back its fuckin sad....I can honestly say the only thing I got out of each relationship was just getting laid absolutely no support what so ever otherwise in this thing called life. For those of you that think your alone and think a GF is the fix...... its not some of the loneliest times in my life is when I had a girlfriend living with me.

turbulance4 · 2021-08-31T16:40:37+00:00

3rd reason doesn't really make sense. That would be a reason not to have kids, not a reason not to get married. While married fathers are definitely considered the second class parent in the courts, unmarried fathers get it even worse.

This reminds me of a conversation I had a somewhere around a decade ago. Back when gay marriage was the topic of the day. I said something like "look, I support gay rights. I think gay people should have equal rights to straight people. I just don't think the state should be involved in any marriage. We need to remove straight marriage, not add gay marriage."

This did not go over well. I was cast as a homophobe. Now a decade later, and having gone through a marriage and divorce myself, all I can think is: I was fucking right.

Liberal_On_Guns · 2021-08-31T16:34:49+00:00

There's a simple meme that explained it perfectly IMO. It basically said "Will you engage in a contract with me that you can break at any time and entitles you to half my stuff if you leave?"

StalemateMaster64 · 2021-08-31T15:33:07+00:00

Marriage is loosing it's attractiveness. You can get everything you want without marriage and without getting tied down under partial laws of marriage.

MrSnrlub · 2021-08-31T17:03:53+00:00

Take the kids, half the house, pay child support. All because, reasons. That and no fault devorce laws. Well heck you can just count me in! I love getting ass raped by the courts and society!

Only_Leather_3107 · 2021-09-01T01:07:37+00:00

There is literally no upside to marriage for men

Neko404 · 2021-08-31T16:33:35+00:00

i've seen friends get dragged through the courts by a vindictive ex-wife. I really do not want to risk going through that.

veryniceguy1980 · 2021-09-01T00:04:40+00:00

What a noob question. Even my neighbors kid knows why. Women priced themselves out of the market and bring absolutely ZERO to the table. Her career and money, means zip to a man. Beauty fades, no cooking skills, just expectations, monkey branching and after 30 having kids that are born healthy is less safe that Russian roulette. Meanwhile, war on men rages on all fronts.

GivePuppiesBazookas · 2021-08-31T18:38:47+00:00

Former married guy here, just don't do it. I was married for 3 years, I honestly can not think of a single positive/benefit from it. My ex on the other hand was able to leave scot free and I hade to fix everything we (she) broke. There is just no reason to do it, even the tax stuff, seems nice and all, but once you divorce it becomes a massive burden.

JeffersonStateOfMind · 2021-08-31T15:40:59+00:00

Why are men avoiding marriage?

Because marriage is punishment for petty theft, such as shoplifting in some countries!

emein · 2021-08-31T12:54:48+00:00

The whole business of marriage is a contract between two people. Choose your business partner wisely. Who has your back these days, who is going to take care of you when your sick and out of work. Who will stand beside you after life changing illness and injury. Not many.

idontlastlng · 2021-08-31T14:03:40+00:00

because i dont have a job. even if i get one, it wont pay me enough to get married and start a family. its better to stay single and make porn your wife

mypasswordisnot38838 · 2021-08-31T16:28:48+00:00

I will never get married😎

Southerndude62 · 2021-08-31T13:43:22+00:00

https://communities.win/c/mgtow/new

hottake_toothache · 2021-08-31T15:45:07+00:00

More true today than when this video was posted in 2013.

BackAlleyKittens · 2021-08-31T17:18:47+00:00

We can't see the logic in spending $10,000+ on a single day when we are technically and leagally starting a new business.

Royal_IDunno · 2021-08-31T21:18:59+00:00

Reminds me of the time when a close friend’s dad of mine got a divorce and lost both his house and savings to her (approx £29K) and he didn’t get anything which I find downright disgusting and unfair!

CheMGeo_136 · 2021-08-31T15:19:11+00:00

Because it's an outdated and useless social practice. Like literally you have no need to marry if it's only about relationship. There's nothing to profit from it to men while simultaneously they risk everything, from the real estate and money to the point of plain simple social status.

Fun fact, in Russian language word for "marriage" (брак) is similar to the word "failure" (брак). And we even have a saying "no good deal can be called marriage" (Хорошую вещь браком не назовут).

Rex-the-pup · 2021-08-31T17:22:59+00:00

Cos marriage ends in a unfair divorce case that normally only benefits women.

VisionaryPioneer · 2021-08-31T19:11:06+00:00

Here is a lovely list of reasons that explain why the men are avoiding marriage:

Asocial introverts exist.
There are men who don't want to deal with false sexual harassment allegations.
Some men want to avoid getting divorced and having court systems have favoritism over wives.
Love can fade and die because people's personalities can change.
Because change happens, there are people who can become abusive verbally and non-verbally.
Narcissists exist.
Cynicism.
Fear of getting married too soon.
Unwillingness to waste money on divorce.
Jobs that require employees/employers to be too busy for free time.
Bachelors and bachelorettes who would rather have fun than commitment.

Mohammedmkh1990 · 2021-08-31T18:41:57+00:00

Alimony or mehriyeh is worse than being bankrupt in my country. Marriage is slavery for mens.

AutisthicccGuy · 2021-08-31T21:48:43+00:00

I'm rich and I don't wanna loose all my money

West_Appearance_657 · 2021-08-31T23:15:22+00:00

I'm an 18 year old guy and I'm so glad I took the redpill to never allow myself to be trapped by marriage or children. No debt, no marriage, no children holding me back. Work in a trade where I can go wherever I want and make bank. I love freedom

JayMeadows · 2021-08-31T23:32:55+00:00

Where's all the women at? I'm itching to see what they have to say about this.

63daddy · 2021-09-01T17:38:50+00:00

For me, it was realizing that marriage had little to offer and much to lose.

I saw friends get married, have their wives lose interest in sex, stop working and eventually divorce them, losing half of everything they owned or more.

I’m now in a relationship that I’m very happy with. Women are great, it’s just not in my interest to marry one.

LosedClaire · 2021-08-31T16:20:31+00:00

Marriage is just asking to get physically abused by a woman.

Thank god I’m homosexual. 🙄

SaintAries · 2021-08-31T15:21:53+00:00

Being around married couples is enough to make you not want to marry.

leachlurker · 2021-08-31T21:42:47+00:00

It’s also as well u have to buy a very expensive ring right of the bat 0:

Fair-Particular-1038 · 2021-09-01T04:43:45+00:00

Personally, I think most people get married for the wrong reasons. Most marriages are doomed from the start. I don't want to be in that situation.

ACE-JHN · 2021-09-01T21:32:35+00:00

This post is great. I’m only 25 and never getting married and getting a vasectomy ASAP. Thanks for putting your experiences gentlemen.

Trapped_in_RedditFan · 2021-09-05T01:17:29+00:00

Guys we need to frame this better. Men are not avoiding marriage. Women don't want marriage. They are not traditional. Men are simply responding to what women want. No woman wants to spend their entire life with one man, this is what women want, it has nothing to do with men. Women may think and say they want to spend their life with one man, but their actions tell a different story. We need to frame this as doing what women want not "men avoiding marriage," because it makes it seem like men are the ones making the decision. It was the women's decision to destroy traditional marriage, not men's.

EnvironmentalWar4627 · 2021-08-31T12:20:22+00:00

I'm married to a woman I care about and I've never once regretted it. Living in fear of what could go wrong is no way to live. If it goes wrong, I'll handle it. Better that than refusing to go outside your comfort zone and never risking anything.

Stoicism1981 · 2021-08-31T16:14:38+00:00

I don’t do marriage either. I don’t believe in marriage. To me It’s a legal contract to protect both parties. I don’t need that protection. I don’t need marriage. I am childfree. I just need a soulmate who share the same value on marriage and kids with me. And I got one. I am very happy. 😊

Phoenixion · 2021-08-31T17:24:21+00:00

Jeez this post is so negative. Y'all act like divorce is the expected outcome of a marriage

Octaroona · 2021-08-31T20:17:02+00:00

Don’t you believe in true love?

dont-believe-me- · 2021-08-31T22:32:24+00:00

That was absolutely terrible

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adoctorswife · 2021-09-02T05:59:12+00:00

When there is a financial incentive for a woman to divorce and the man becomes a slave to his ex it’s no surprise men aren’t choosing marriage anymore. The government needs to stop being involved in people’s lives, it’s ruining the core of our society which is the family.

paracog · 2021-09-04T02:56:59+00:00

If I had a son coming of age, I would tell him to get his sperm frozen, get it stored where it can't be extradited, then get a vasectomy. And not marry.

StrawberryDramatic68 · 2021-09-05T19:16:10+00:00

Who would want to marry an American woman?

Beltox2pointO · 2021-09-01T00:20:17+00:00

Reasons men are avoiding marriage -

Money.

Alright, thanks for coming to my ted talk.

Marriage takes two people to engage in it. It costs a fucking lot of money, The rhetoric around marriage has been negative for the last few decades. This isn't a mens issue.

BrianGossling · 2021-08-31T20:25:09+00:00

Ehh, aside from the divorce/alimony point, this video is pretty weak at supporting it's hypothesis. I feel the general cultural shift away from religious monogamy and marriage in anglophone North America is the primary reason away from decreasing marriage rates... not that "video games" and threat of incarceration is the reason.

Title	Why men are avoiding marriage
Author	Adelb1
Upvotes	820
Comments	266
Date	August 31, 2021 11:53 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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