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Model Christy Giles Found Dead at 24 - three men dropped her dead body outside of a hospital after drugging her and her friends during a night out. THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T TRUST MEN AT ALL.

WCAttorney

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Title Model Christy Giles Found Dead at 24 - three men dropped her dead body outside of a hospital after drugging her and her friends during a night out. THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T TRUST MEN AT ALL.
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Date November 18, 2021 10:17 PM UTC
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[–]28Improved 243 points244 points245 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

RIP.

Imagine dying this young because some scrotes notice you and target you.

This sad story plays all too often, I can't imagine how her family and friends must feel

May those men rot

[–]AveryhvwFDS Newbie 137 points138 points139 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Those men, if caught, will get the lightest slap on the wrist you’ve ever seen.

Men know how to cover their tracks, they injected heroin so that the judge can say, “well, she wanted to do drugs because that’s what the evidence says” 🤷‍♂️

[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They might even twist it to make it seem that the girls went willingly to their place and did everything willingly but just that they had an overdose and things went wrong and then the men simply left them at the hospital to be treated/saved by doctors. They might pull an involuntary manslaughter or charge them just for abandonment of the corpse or something else that gives them a light punishment that the lawyers always find a way to pull.

[–]Ana_jpFDS Newbie 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wanna water board them for as long as they abused those girls.

[–]plomerstFDS Newbie 533 points534 points535 points 4 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

When I read stories like this where a beautiful young lady is violated and harmed at the hands of men, I really question why we are supposed to want men to desire us. They are dangerous. And women envy one another over male attention. It’s supposed to be an ego boost to attract a lot of them. In reality, you’re probably much safer being invisible to them.

[–]plomerstFDS Newbie 129 points130 points131 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Unsurprisingly, I just read an article that one of the men that these women were last spotted with works in the porn industry.

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOkFDS Newbie 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a horror show.

​

"One of the men has been described in reports as an alleged “underground pornographer” and Jan fears the men took advantage of Christy and Hilda over a 12-hour period on Saturday.Jan said that CCTV footage – which has been described to him but he has not seen – shows two men wearing all black, with bandannas over their faces and driving a car without license plates dropping Christy off.The 40-year-old, who is a South Africa-born visual effects artist, said that he had received information about the men online after putting out the last known address Christy was at.“People started contacting me and saying this is guy is the creepiest of creeps,” he told The Sun.
“Obviously that story doesn’t add up – how do you drop off one girl for an accidental overdose while the other girl, one of her closest friends, stays back at the house and isn’t dropped off for another two hours?
“There is something weird going on. I’m fearful that these men took advantage of them.
“I mean what do you do with two girls that you don’t allow to escape from your house for 12 hours, considering everything that we know about these guys?
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/doesnt-add-up-christy-giles-husband-speaks/news-story/a7e5af5a160a2087a0e09bd69578d964

[–]herbcoil 68 points69 points70 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you couldn't pay me to be model-hot in this world we live in, especially after seeing how many obnoxious male interactions my beautiful friends experience just going about their day-to-day lives. let alone the real violence this poor woman was victim to.

[–]cakewalkofshameFDS Newbie 111 points112 points113 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly. This is a brand new sentiment to me but mind-blowing and accurate. We need to spread it far and wide.

[–]plomerstFDS Newbie 106 points107 points108 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was legit a victim of crimes, from misdemeanors to felonies, as a result of ‘’male attention.” Not quite seeing the benefit.

[–]Subject-Elk7202 63 points64 points65 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I remember feeling invisible. I wasn't really invisible, but the attention I got wasn't the kind of attention I wanted. I wanted positive attention. I just don't feel like a lot of scrotes are able to give it. This vibrant and gorgeous woman died in the most horrible way because she was killed by men who clearly hate beautiful women. So many men hate beautiful, attractive women. Women need to wake up to that fact. It's because of jealousy. Beauty is powerful, but beautiful women are more vulnerable than they'll ever know.

If a low value male can't have a woman, he would rather destroy her than let her live her best life.

[–]europoor24Pickmeisha™️ 167 points168 points169 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The other night I told someone during a girls night I don’t care if I get married or not and I was told don’t worry you’ll find someone 🙄. Nice sentiment but why does everything have to be about being partenered up?

[–]Subject-Elk7202 76 points77 points78 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was married. I was also abused for 14 years by him and people kept telling me how ge, was 'one of the good ones'. You need to stand up against society because if a man is abusive, people might not believe you. Its a good idea to have a security system in your home so that if the scrote does decide to abuse you, you can film the attack and turn the footage over to all the 'disbelievers'.

Even women support abusers.

Sadly.

[–]europoor24Pickmeisha™️ 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry that happened to you, but thank you for the advice.

[–]Taffeta_Dream 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ha ‘I’m not worried. If I end up continuing to live alone with freedom on my own terms without having to deal with or support a man I fail to see what I need to worry about.’

[–]europoor24Pickmeisha™️ 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

good comeback. need to save this for later.

[–]AocwannabeFDS Newbie 50 points51 points52 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Agreed that male validation is vastly overrated and fleeting.

But I think all women get abused. But with conventionally beautiful women, people are more likely to have empathy or find her believable.😱

[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is true. I watch true crime often and in the YouTube comments it the victim is beautiful most comments mention that she was beautiful and how sad it is. Some women who are not so conventionally attractive but are wives and mothers also get some sympathy. If it's a non conventionally attractive woman or overweight I see that the comments are much more neutral. Also these cases don't usually make so big news. But as you said all women get abused regardless of their looks. Rapists and abusers will do it anyways regardless of the beauty of the woman.

[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

yes and no....

working class pretty women don't get treated the same as middle class ones and above bc regardless of looks women from working class backgrounds tend to have more bite/ be more defensive and are therefore given less sympathy by cops etc

the more small, quiet and feminine / helpless or high class a woman seems, yeah might work in her favour- sometimes- but if a pretty woman says 'this scrote is creeping me out' and starts bashing him defensively... a lot will roll eyes and assume she did something or led him on- won't take her seriously

even the more feminine quiet one, they might assume she's dramatic and being over the top

sometimes people lack empathy for beautiful women because they think they have the world at their feet, have no problems and are drama queens

this is why a lot of conventionally attractive rape victims don't get believed and their rapist isn't sentenced...they're seen as promiscuous liars who seduced him and brought it on themselves or they acted like a 'whore' and regretted it...same as many other women

for example, I see beautiful women getting less sympathy when they have abusive family bc the consensus is 'well you're pretty, get over it..some ppl are ugly and have that'....or they assume shes a vain narcissist and over exaggerating/ lying

basically people assume pretty women just have this easy hassle free life because that's what they see on instagram....when not to be mean but most instagram attention seeking pickmeishas are late bloomers

for example a lot of times I come across attention seeking lib fem pickmeishas online who are doing sex work or just acting trashy and vile...it turns out they used to be unattractive in their youth so now they doubled down on attention seeking nonsense, which gives all attractive women a bad rep

don't believe me...next time you see an attention seeking attractive woman going viral on Tik Tok, scroll through her feed history and 9/10 there's a before and after of when she looked completely different

IRL most the pretty women I see don't like men or trust them much- and are hostile to them 98% of the time....pickmeishas are a different story obviously

not to mention even some pickmeishas view women like that....oh I bet her life is easier, lets bully and isolate her, she deserves knocking down

insecure men act the same, oh she doesn't deserve confidence, let me make it my mission to knock her down

but as we know being attractive gets you more attention, but most men are entitled superficial scrotes so that's not really a good thing, you're going to get more sexual harassment and targetted more unless you act very stuck up and hostile

sociopaths also like to target beautiful women and use them for status, and a lot of men feel entitled to attractive women, grabbing them, raping them and stalking them

some also don't understand why a lot actively walk around with mean hostile demeanor....its because they can get creepy men and even envious pickmeishas trying to attack them

I've had beautiful friends be attacked in nightclubs by insecure men or envious pickmeishas. Attracting more envy is not a positive.

also the amount of people who will view beautiful women with suspicion because they got rid of an aggressive creep that was trying to be 'friends' with them

'oh I bet she led him on, attention seeker!' when she did no such thing and the guy was unhinged/ dangerous

but yes mainstream news can be more likely to spotlight feminine attractive middle class women who seem more helpless... definitely... but I wouldn't assume their lives are easier in day to day life

[–]AocwannabeFDS Newbie 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, a much overdue but VERY difficult conversation to be had is how much beautiful women are hated on by other women. And it is absolutely true that people assume life is easier for conventionally beautiful women. For women, it seems to be a dichotomy of be ignored/invisible/abused if you are “plain” OR be put on a pedestal but also get negged and treated like you are a bitch when you exercise basic boundaries.

I had a former “friend” who claimed to be a feminist consistently try to take me down a notch and label me as personality disordered because she could never sympathize with my “pretty privilege” problems.

Admitting jealousy is still taboo af. So many people will sabotage you, subtly undermine your confidence or distance themselves. So many times in my life I thought I was doing something wrong when I was being excessively compassionate to people who couldn’t manage their jealousy and resentment of me.

[–]StrawberryMoon3FDS Apprentice 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I relate to this. It's very true

[–]Purple-Try8602 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

100%. As I age and I’m still inundated with depraved attempts at fucking with me, despite me intentionally doing no effort (growing dread locks, acting manly, unshaven) etc, I can’t help but look around at the females that are spending money!!! Money!!! At attempting to make themselves more attractive for these idiots. Like freaking WHY?!?!?!?!?! At this point we should all try to look as ugly as possible to fuck so they stop killing us. They’ll maybe switch full time to video AI & fleshlights then once they’re too pale to enter sunlight we can roam freely being beautiful. Ugh.

[–]StrawberryMoon3FDS Apprentice 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. Some women enjoy being beautiful for themselves, it's not always about male attention. And whether a woman is conventionally attractive or not, she'll face male harassment. Men target and harm all women, not just those they're attracted to, so "uglifying" yourself won't stop it.

[–]ImpressiveHat8550 218 points219 points220 points 4 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit the top voted comment on the article is from a man slamming her for going to a apartment building with other men even though she was married.

First of all, her and her friends were probably drunk and/or drugged at the point, which means they were taken back to the building. Big difference you fucking asshole.

Secondly, I don’t care if she was married or a goddamn nun SHE DIDN’T DESERVE TO BE DRUGGED, ASSAULTED AND MURDERED NO MATTER WHAT.

What most infuriating is that these guys will probably at best hope they get away with it and never think about it again and at worst laugh about it in a couple years. You know it’s true.

[–]lostmilleniaFDS Newbie 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact that this is happening proves things are unsafe.

Can't believe people are trying to victim blame into not talking about it. People are so dumb.

[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I used to be in a manosphere forum similar to reddit many years ago and some men would make analogies like "you wouldn't go in a dangerous neighborhood with a Rolex on your wrist or let your apartment's door open and then complain you were stolen, therefore as women y'all shouldn't be out alone late at night/wearing revealing clothes late at night" and similar stuff whenever a woman was r*ped or assaulted. It was absolutely horrific the mental gymnastics and "just playing the devil's advogate" these scrotes used whenever a woman was a victim of violence.

[–]MorthaPFDS Newbie 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

the funny/sad thing is that when a woman says 'men are dangerous' they will flip their fucking shit, but they tell us all the time that they KNOW men are dangerous by implying that of course women shouldn't go with men because that's inherently a dangerous situation.

[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes they can't seem to be able to choose a narrative. They'll also make jokes about buying a weapon to protect their daughters from other men or will act all intimidating when their daughters get a boyfriend. What are they so scared of and what are they protecting them from? I thought "not all men" / "must a minority of men". Also if it isn't a "male issue because women kill and r*pe too in the same numbers as men" then why aren't they keeping the same energy for their sons?

[–]Geocities_SEO_ExpertFDS STRATEGY COACH 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The terrible thing is that they probably felt safe going out at night because they were together.

It's also terrible that men automatically associate parties, clubs, and bars with a desire for casual sex. Dirty and messed up.

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOkFDS Newbie 204 points205 points206 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

  1. LA is a seedy as fuck town. I say this because I want more women to be aware. It is a hotbed of rape, murder and discarding womens bodies in the desert. There are fucked up crime gangs who specifically prey on young women - particularly 'trophy' or 'model' women.
  2. The spiking thing is frightening. And I am certain we will see an increase of these behaviours globally
  3. If I was investigators I would check the dark web. Chances are she was <insert your own horror> on camera. These men would have definitely filmed the assault - and am sure it was a key motive in the attack

[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple 54 points55 points56 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They are saying one of the men is an underground pornographer. Of course they filmed it.

[–]Geocities_SEO_ExpertFDS STRATEGY COACH 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Who knows how many other women he has done this to. These two probably died because they were the only ones who kept fighting back after the first dose of cheap street drugs laced with fentanyl.

[–]questionsaboutrel521FDS Apprentice 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Horrifying that her husband must live with this knowledge - that this video may be out there and he probably can’t take it down. I can’t imagine what a loved one would feel.

[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist 45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Isn't it funny how society hounds women to look attractive 24/7, then actively punishes them for it

But if they don't look attractive, they get bullied by men and pickmeishas for X Y Z

But then if they look attractive, they envy and spite them for it...and even if its natural you'll get that

Almost like you can't win huh

Win the genetic lottery- more sexual harassment and unhinged insecure men attacking or trying to rape/ control you so they can brag to friends

If you don't.... bullying and hostility - not seen as good enough...constant comments

Men want women to look attractive, then resent them for it and get insecure, possessive, controlling or murderous. Or mock them.

This is why I say, be careful what you wish for....looking more attractive will not guarentee you a better experience in this misogynist world.

Because of men getting worse, attractive women are more of a target for insecure desperate men and envious pickmeisha's.

The worse men get due to porn, dating apps and misogyny etc..the most 'attractive' become a bigger target, especially if they are getting less access to them

Pick up artist/ hook up culture is also making men more delusional and brave....and red pill nonsense and porn is making them more entitled and angry when women reject them

For every net positive, there's ten negatives

And these days with the amount of red pillers, porn fetish freaks and pick up artist sociopaths lurking..its more negatives and more weirdos targeting you bc they want the ego boost of conquering / using you

Stay safe and try to make yourself look anti social as possible....limit your drinks and where you go out - go to places that are harder to get in

[–]Comprehensive_Newt73 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Precisely this. A couple years back I used to take care of myself (you know, pre-pandemic and such), dress up nicely etc. I can look very attractive and used to get a lot of attention - and as much negative attention as positive from thirsty ass scrotes who knew they didn't have a shot but were often willing to try anyway. Well, I got married and have since stopped putting in any effort whatsoever and I am now officially invisible. I kind of like it. Honestly, it's better being invisible than constantly dealing with those lowlife scumbags. Safer, too. Those poor women, what a horrible thing to go through. :(

[–]Subject-Elk7202 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is so frightening. How horrible. I'm lost for words. May these women rest in peace. Prayers for all the angels who are no longer with us today because of sick, pervert depraved men. Rest in peace. Gone too soon. The good die young.

[–]adeecomeforthFDS Newbie 181 points182 points183 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I keep seeing the words "forcibly injected" in some articles (mostly from trash websites) and if it's true, damn it's even more horrible since some ladies here have been warning others of the same thing. It is awful that this young lady was murdered and I hope, hope, hope those responsible are found.

[–]thewetdog_Ruthless Strategist 70 points71 points72 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe this language is because there were reports of heroin in their systems but neither of them were users

Edit: yeah looks like the husband told some press that there was heroin in christys system but she obv didn’t do heroin

[–]Academic_Snow_7680 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is happening all over Scotland lately https://www.thenational.scot/news/19658029.spiked-injection-police-probe-claims-women-across-scotland/

I don't trust men for a good reason. It wasn't always like this, they made me mistrust them.

[–]DeterminedblondeFDS Newbie 58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Forcibly, as if we might choose to be injected 🤔

[–]Aoeletta 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I mean, yes. Some women do drugs and choose to inject themselves with those drugs.

[–]thewetdog_Ruthless Strategist 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Some sources are saying there was heroin in their systems so I get what you’re trying to say, that they weren’t doing heroin. I believe her husband also said that neither of the girls would ever do heroin voluntarily so it was forced on them.

[–]Aoeletta 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, I completely agree that this is heinous.

[–]Phoenix__Rising2018Ruthless Strategist 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do women choose to inject themselves with dangerous rape drugs?

[–]Aoeletta 46 points47 points48 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m saying it is important to note that they were forcibly injected because the differentiation is an important medical fact to support the fact that it was murder. I’m replying specifically to the “as if we might choose to be injected” because… yes, some women do (not rape drugs obviously! You are 1000000% correct about that.)

So, in my opinion it is a noticeable and important fact that it was “forcibly” injected so these disgusting men are held to the fullest extent of the law.

Edit: this is fascinating to me that I’m getting downvoted for saying that the fact that it was noted as forcible is important because that proves they weren’t willingly injecting themselves. I’d love an explanation as to why my phrasing is being received poorly.

[–]questionsaboutrel521FDS Apprentice 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In this case, the distinction is important because one of the girls had a toxicology report that came back with heroin in her system. The husband of Christy emphatically says neither girl was a user. It’s important to point out that they may have been forcibly injected because it would be easy to brush it off and say, oh, they partied too hard and overdosed and that was it. If so, there’s so many things not adding up, which is why foul play is more likely.

Since the drug is heroin, the language is pretty important.

[–]aquietswordFDS Newbie 94 points95 points96 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Those men should be put down like the dangerous animals they are. But of course the justice system will protect the cockroaches of society at every turn.

[–]its_me_phospheneFDS Newbie 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow…. I’ve met Christy she’s in my circle of friends and I’m closely following the case. We know who was involved. It’s a man named Dave (feel like I can’t say last name) and there are stories about him on the internet for at least ten years…. An actually monster.

one of the articles

What people think happened was everyone was going to an afterparty after the DJ set and the guys said they would give the girls a ride. It’s assumed they never made it to the final destination. At 5am Christy texted her friend something along the lines of “let’s get the fuck out of here” and her friend agreed and called an Uber. Last message was “10 minutes away.”

The guys probably didn’t like that they were leaving and something happened…. Only Dave and his friends know. Seriously, googling him is horrifying women have been consistently posting about being sexually assaulted by him since 2012.

[–]Lost_Kale90FDS Apprentice 75 points76 points77 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Reading this makes me hate men (again). Not just because they do horrendous things having utter disregard for human life. But because they also continue to create a society that enables the abuse of women.

Edit: word

[–]PinkPetalCdistbeautyFDS Newbie 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucking terrifying.

[–]edwardianemeraldFDS Newbie 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If a woman is mad at a man, he'll probably get yelled at *at the worst*

If a man is mad at a woman, she can be killed, raped, maimed, kidnapped etc

[–]Summoning-FreaksFDS Newbie 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s scary how unsurprised I am about this. Im more surprised that they bothered to take them to a hospital than bury them in the desert, as crass as that sounds. The comments adding info about it being filmed or a select target make my blood run cold though.

I’ve never been to LA, but I used to live in Cannes. I know there are far more young women that go missing than is reported. All those movies glamourising meeting a rich guy and spontaneously summering on his yacht into international waters have done naive women a great disservice.

Any place that is run by the rich and attracts young beautiful hopeful women is rife with rape and murder and disappearances. Monaco is a prime example too; these rich men are not your friends and they are not concerned about your safety and comfort. Be careful with who you party with, dont let the fun party atmosphere override your better judgement and instincts!

[–]Lost_Kale90FDS Apprentice 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The neighbors heard someone moaning in pain all day - https://www.the-sun.com/news/4099280/christy-giles-update-neighbors-heard-moaning/

I wish someone would've called the cops 😔

[–]AmeliaEmiliaEmmaFDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s horrifying!!! I don’t even want to imagine what they were doing to them!!! It makes me so sick! 🤢

[–]scorchedsouIFDS Newbie 49 points50 points51 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Getting murdered by depraved males feels like the most insulting shit these days. I'd much rather get killed by women or get ripped apart by wild dogs, statistically unlikely as either may be.

What a horrible and sad way to go for a young woman with so much more ahead of her. Evil lowly bastards.

[–]divination__FDS Newbie 98 points99 points100 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

This is why being pretty isn't the privilege people think it is – it doesn't protect you from the violence of men, even if they appear to treat you more nicely at first.

[–]Tatterhood78FDS Newbie 66 points67 points68 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is why I'll never understand why people think it's important or "special" to be pretty. It isn't. It's not the magical key to being treated better than other women, not by a long shot.

I've had the unfortunate luck to be born with what people keep calling a "great body". Tall, thin, thigh gap, tiny waist, flat belly, bubble butt, etc. And because of the experiences it's brought me, I NEVER feel safe. Not ever. I don't even feel comfortable around other people who aren't in my super close female friend group, because it's always the topic of conversation. Nothing else has mattered.

If I mention my grown daughters... "Holy shit! You don't look old enough to have kids that age!"

If I mention that my back hurts "It must be because you're always sticking your butt out like that!" (whut? I'm literally just standing up straight)

If I mention that I bake... "You must be throwing it up, because there's no way you're eating it!"

And because the topic comes back to that so often, it must be because I start it for attention. Or some shit like that. I'm just trying to interact with society; it's not my fault that they're hostile to me based on my meat suit. I've had no more control over what I look like that any other combination of DNA out there.

It's super dehumanizing. My body parts have been commented on so much that "I" don't even see a whole person when I look in the mirror.

Since I look like someone people would really enjoy sleeping with, then I clearly love being slept with. If I say that I don't diet or work out constantly, I'm automatically labelled a liar.

People project onto pretty women. I've walked into a room and had women look at each other "knowingly" and roll their eyes at how "conceited" I clearly am. I've had women come up to confront me about trying to steal their men, even though most of the time I'm vaguely (or completely) unaware that those men exist. I've lost friends that I've known for decades because a man came into the picture, and suddenly his feeble unsuccessful attempts to cheat must be my fault. I've been yelled at and assaulted for daring to do things like wear a bikini in my own back yard on a hot day.

My body count (fuck, what a stupid term) is low single digits, but I'm clearly the whore who sleeps with everyone. I've been hit on daily since I was 11. I've woken up in my own bed to dicks in my mouth or men trying to take my clothes off (most memorable was when the two stars of my high school basketball team tried it... when I was 15). I lost my virginity against my will when I was 17, and nobody believed that I didn't want it/was a virgin at that point. Mostly because men I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole had been bragging about "bagging" me since I was 12.

I couldn't babysit because the man of the house would try to "give me a bonus" along with my pay. I couldn't go to bars because every knuckle dragger in the place would gravitate toward me. I couldn't be nice to men at work, or nice to other people around them, because once they decided it would be nice of me to sleep with them whatever happened next was my fault. My education and hard work are always chalked up to sleeping with someone to get ahead.

I've been kicked, punched, slapped, dragged, drugged, had broken bones (and so on and so on) for not wanting men who've wanted me. I've been ruthlessly slandered by men I've stopped sleeping with (at least one has been at it for 2 decades), because I dared to cut them off before they were ready to discard me. A life long blood feud because I wasn't making their dicks happy anymore, and I was too uppity to accept my "place" as a masturbatory tool.

Sometimes, I even get pre-rejection punished by men who know they don't stand a chance and get enraged to the point where they lose all common sense. And by women who think that it's my fault for making those bad things happen, for "leading them on" by way of existing.

I can only speak to my own experience, but when people tell me how "lucky" I am it turns my stomach. I've never had a man approach me with anything that isn't overtly sexual (and most of the time violently so).

For the last 15 years, I've been living a lifestyle that can only be called "dodging dick". My youth was taken away by men who wanted to use me and discard me (because I'd be "too much trouble" as a wife).

I don't even know if I'm truly asexual, or if men have sucked so much joy out of the act of sex that even thinking about it turns me off.

Being in fight or flight mode so constantly for so long has caused health issues.

(and yeah, I've said I a lot. That's because I can only speak for myself. There might be women out there who are also "hot" and think that the perks outweigh the benefits. That hasn't been my experience though. I can't wait to be old enough to finally be invisible. )

[–]PenelopePitstop21FDS Newbie 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am really sorry this has been your experience. It is the most awful thing to be judged by your appearance. I hope you are in a better place in your life now.

[–]drowsypillowprincessFDS Newbie 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I resonate deeply with this experience. It’s exhausting. It’s dehumanizing. It puts you on guard constantly. It makes you acutely away of your status as prey surrounded by predators. It makes life horrifying.

[–]wemadethemachineFDS Newbie 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ugly women are considered disposable. The difference is whether you might also find a suitable partner while living with the violence. Some of us know that we could be kidnapped and murdered and there would not be a husband there to answer questions about us.

[–]Subject-Elk7202 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All women are vulnerable to this kind of thing. Men abuse women because they can. Less attractive women victims won't get the media coverage, and their plight is seen as less important. Why? Because I think society actually expects less attractive women to be the victims of violence. Perhaps it's seen as more understandable because beautiful women are supposed to be on some kind of pedestal.

[–]scorchedsouIFDS Newbie 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To be fair, husbands are like the nr1 murderers of women.

[–]wemadethemachineFDS Newbie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True... that's a really good point.

[–]Desperate2getaway 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’d say worse for those blessed with pretty privilege because people will pay more to see terrible things done to you online. This girl was a beautiful Instagram model, not a far reach to think someone smart and connected had their way with her. And to think these are the type of things NFT’s will contain….

[–]queen_azulaaThrowaway Account 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There is a privilege in having your case be televised to spread awareness. Im sure an average looking gal wont achieve the same attention folks like Gabby Petito got. Its a tragedy regardless.

[–]lastlawless 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right. I see that too. it is a privilege because her murderers will be more likely to be brought to justice. It's a shame this kind of "privilege" is only offered to a woman after she's already dead. What does it say about society that the most "valued" of women are only offered public awareness they were murdered, the possibility of justice, yet no safety or prevention from this happening? It's disgusting. And the publicizing of this kind of murder is usually framed like torture porn. The public revels in her death, rather than mourns, real change is blocked, and women who are still alive are constantly reminded they should be terrified to leave the house. Afraid to have fun, but also more afraid to be independent. This kind of crime functions like terrorism to keep women in line.

[–]divination__FDS Newbie 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i'd argue that that is more about class and race than prettiness, but yes, you're right, there is more attention

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOkFDS Newbie 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"One of the men has been described in reports as an alleged “underground pornographer” and Jan fears the men took advantage of Christy and Hilda over a 12-hour period on Saturday.
Jan said that CCTV footage – which has been described to him but he has not seen – shows two men wearing all black, with bandannas over their faces and driving a car without license plates dropping Christy off.
The 40-year-old, who is a South Africa-born visual effects artist, said that he had received information about the men online after putting out the last known address Christy was at.
“People started contacting me and saying this is guy is the creepiest of creeps,” he told The Sun."

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https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/doesnt-add-up-christy-giles-husband-speaks/news-story/a7e5af5a160a2087a0e09bd69578d964

[–]Lost_Kale90FDS Apprentice 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s so terrifying.

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOkFDS Newbie 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know :( It is unfathomably horrible.

I hope the lady in a coma wakes up so she can help investigators.

[–]melympia 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know what has me scratching my head? This whole thing screams of date rape (drug) gone wrong. Why isn't there any mention of an investigation if the two ladies have been raped?

[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People love calling us over the top but this could of been any one of us women, its literally like russian roulette existing as a woman

We are STILL IN THE WILD, don't forget it. You still need those wild instincts.

We shouldn't have to live like this, but unfortunately we do.

Liberal feminists and men keep on trying to push this view that women are so safe in modern society blah blah equality if anything I feel less safe due to modern advancements now

Right, is that why most people in jail are men and most female murder victims are killed by men

Is that why my local paper has a daily influx of male faces committing violent crimes...because these things happen daily and I'm not taking any chances.

Being somewhat on guard is the natural state of female animals anyway...they will only relax when they feel safe to. Otherwise? Don't trust you. You could earn their trust and if you act funny....they will treat you like a predator and move or attack. Learn from animals...they do not trust anyone around them by default especially strangers...they will put their self protection above anything else.

I think people assume we just walk around being shit scared obsessing over what men do.....when really its more of a laidback built in response and being aware of your environment. I go about my day mostly unbothered because of that threat system working in the background. However that doesn't mean I am incapable of being attacked, I just try and limit their opportunities as much as possible. By not trusting them by default. And being vigilant. Because these predators are looking for prey, even if you're going about your day or night as normal.

You're under no obligation to trust strangers and don't forget just because you're in public space and not mentally unhinged...doesn't mean other men around you aren't.

For this reason I take note of mens expressions, how near to me they are, how they're talking and acting, how fast they are, what size they are etc. But I usually have a stone like expression when doing it.

Because of male victim culture we have an increasing number of socially isolated unhinged angry men just waiting to pounce. They're even injecting women with date rape drugs now.

And we have a lot more hidden predators than before

In the wild its much more obvious (but you can still fall victim) but with the internet and human psychology and drugs/weapons/cars etc you kind of have to be a lot more on guard about the various ways men have become unhinged and how they could target you.

Its easy to forget what type of degrading pyschotic porn most ordinary looking men are watching and its russian roulette as to which one will act on their impulses.

I would also advise young women to be seriously careful getting in cabs or ubers alone in this type of pornsick climate, especially when drunk. Where you can.... travel home with a group of friends on public transport where there's more witnesses or get picked up by someone you trust.

Because cab and uber drivers are poorly vetted...some men just employ family members and friends with zero checks. You can tell, by their sketchy attitude and lack of knowledge of the roads.

We encourage women not to get in strange cars with men yet somehow cabs are an exception. Its actually bizarre when I think about it bc cab drivers are a special type of creep most times

I've noticed an increase of creepy cab drivers asking if I live alone, who I'm meeting, whether I'm a local or visiting etc. And I think punk, why do you need to know that information- never give strangers this information.

For example if they ask if you live alone, say no I live with my boyfriend. If he asks what he does say he's a boxer or something like that. Men respond to potential threat, they aren't scared of women.

If they ask if you're meeting up with people, say yes...its my brothers birthday theres a whole group of them expecting me and I'm running a bit late. This signals people are expecting you and would know if you went missing. You are not a good target.

I swear they have a list of women who live alone/are single/ going out to get drunk & exchange it with oneanother.

This unnerves me a bit but its weird, I stopped drinking and going to clubs a while back and haven't regretted it....not to mention it was too many loser creeps hassling me. I felt some strange desire to stop doing it. Like being drunk just makes you easier prey to them.

Then when I found out about the manosphere etc lol boy was I glad. A lot of stuff made sense.

I stick to classy bars now at most that are harder to get in for men and don't drink much and if I ever go out to ordinary clubs for a friends birthday...I'm going out with other protective women who are FDS minded. I don't want to be funny but some of these pickmeisha friends can seriously put you at risk, or even pimp you out. That is why I don't want them around me, I've had too many pick mes put me in harms way when I was young.

I know you may not like them but the girlier the bar....the better. Where theres more women to men. Where its more female orientated decor etc. Where its harder to get in at the door. Where prices are a little higher but the environment is better. Where the door staff are more hands on. Where their reputation is on the line.

In ordinary clubs they let any old scrote in including violent classless people on class A drugs, bc the prices are cheap and they need the customers more. They care about their reputation less. So there's more desperado creeps.

Also in a noisy dark club its so much easier for these losers to creep up on you...at an open top classy bar with less noise and crowd, there's more eyes on them.

One of my friends for example, if I get a bit too drunk she's like a pitbull keeping creeps away and I do the same for her if she gets too drunk. I always feel safe with her.

But I rarely ever drink now and its even more rare I go to a common highstreet club bc of the increasing number of unhinged people in our society who just want to fight, rape or kill. Weirdo pick up artists trying to zoom in at the end of the night- can't be doing with it.

Mostly I limit mens access to me as much as possible. Don't post my whereabouts, don't give pickmeishas or men info and keep myself safe. I much prefer being sober and aware of my environment, and not being hassled by creepy men all night.

[–]undergroundPipe 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh my god that is awful. I literally can’t imagine that at all. Men are so terrible. Our society has failed us.

[–]Dey_la_soul 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

So sad. Reminds me of a case a few years back of 26 y/o Lyric McHenry who died of an overdose (that occurred under shady circumstances) and some men/drug dealers dumped her body on the road instead of taking her to the hospital. That story can be found here. Never take drugs from men or people you don’t know. Really, just don’t take drugs period. Not worth it.

[–]Overall_Passenger_71 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a go fund me available. Please donate to helpchristy Giles gofundme

[–]WCAttorneyFDS Newbie[S] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

UPDATE -= I'M NOW BEING HARASSED ACROSS REDDIT BY A USER u/eye_dee_kay WHO IS SENDING MESSAGES STATING "YOURE LUCKY THAT YOU'RE UGLY AND GUYS WOULDN'T WANT TO RAPE YOU"

User also posted responses to my other post in FDS in other subreddits stating that I was a "crazy mom" for defending my 12 year old daughter against a neighborhood creep, which I only posted about in FDS

Fuckin' scrotes.

[–]womanofmyownheart 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine her horror ... every day I live, I grow asexual and even more wary of men. I could use a friend for the rest of my life. But to go out and find a new partner ? Kinda, no thanks ?

[–]Purple-Try8602 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine having a vagina that made you snuff the life out another sentient being who’s mother and sisters adore her. They have a design flaw aka penis / porn fueled depravity that fuels them to take a life of one of us. I’ll never get over why this doesn’t infuriate more of us 🤯.

[–]Invisiblescars_1232 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You should see the comments under that. So much victim blaming when she was probably drugged and abducted.

[–]DPCAOT1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

has anyone seen the update? These three washed up trolls could not look douchier if they tried.

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