Even the ugliest woman will have more dating success compared to even just a below average man. But the men are still in a better position, if they have the willpower to work for many years. (and avoid failure or things like depression)
For 90% of men, increasing their attractiveness would mean things like making a lot of money, increasing their social status etc...
Socio-economic status is a huge part of a man's attraction. You can also go to the gym and whatnot, but even if you get really buff, that won't do much if you're ugly. Most of a man's attraction comes from socio-economic factors.
Now, socio-economic factors are much harder to improve. There isn't anything harder than making money or becoming somebody. But that's just how natural selection works. Cruel, but that's just how life is.
Granted, a man born handsome will almost always be much more attractive than the ugly guy who worked his way to riches and status, but that's just life, better genes have it easy unfortunately, it applies to women too.
And that's the difference between men and women. Women have it easy but they can't improve much. Men have nothing but they can improve a whole lot if they work hard for years.
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Cause besides makeup and clothes, that's the only way to increase their attractiveness.
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Keeping a healthy weight helps a lot. Having good hygiene too.
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You're saying the same thing as I am. Women are much more attractive to men by default than men are to women.
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Socio-economic status matters after you’ve cleared the attractiveness threshold
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It's more like a scale. The uglier you are, the harder you're gonna have to compensate. Granted, in our current times, if you're ugly you're gonna have to be really fucking rich.
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I meant if you want a woman to actually desire you and be attracted to you youd have to clear her bar for attraction If you don't mind women who just want the lifestyle you can provide then yes the richer the more options
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Hence, they gain attractiveness in men's perspective.
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Ok, I can concede this one. Definitely, handsome guys wouldn't find the same things attractive as an average man, and an average man won't find the same things attractive as a truly desperate man.
But at the same time, average men have more flexible standards than women, because men have much less options than women. Any female attention would be a big event for the average man, while the average woman receives male attention pretty regularly.
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Well, if you're just slightly below average, you can get away with just a good job with plenty of possible future career growth. So 26+ if you didn't make any mistakes, so not necessarily in the 40s. But we're talking an actual career, not just some job.
But if we're talking actually ugly, like maybe went bald early and have no other attractive physical features to compensate, then ohh boy, that's tough. 30+ if everything went really well career-wise, really well.
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Someone will date her no matter how ugly she is (unless actually deformed). Therefore, she has the power of attraction over those men.
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I know one girl who actually attempted but failed idk why some guys act like only ugly men have it rough
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I think being fat is mostly an issue in western places. This particular girl was not fat lol She just had a facial scar
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They are getting bad I just watched a documentary of India being inundated with “American” food and how obesity is starting to do numbers in Asia as a whole apparently. I think it can be hard to maintain a healthy weight in a place where the majority of the food is ill made and designed to be addictive
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Someone will date her no matter how ugly she is.
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