Yes men peak at an older age than women. But that's because most men start at the bottom

c0pkill3r · 2023-09-05T16:01:35+00:00

Female porn stars get paid more than male ones too. However this only proves that a woman's sexuality is more valued financially. It doesn't prove people don't think young guys look hot. Everywhere in the media there are depictions of both men and women young hot people.

Any young guy who's reading this just search for cougars. I promise you will find one. There's a bunch on fetlife actually and those are the best cos they know about most kinks. And the atmosphere of fetlife is just very open and freeing. You can candidly about some of the craziest taboo kink stuff and find support. Dating apps as well, even here on reddit. Post pics of yourself and even if you don't believe it act like you are a real treat for older women. It works. Even on guys who have stuff about their bodies that's commonly seen as not conventionally attractive. For example I like a wide range of body types including big fat dudes.

thetruthishere_ · 2023-09-05T15:23:23+00:00

Its not about peak, men are just thirstier. Young gay men have their DMs' full too. Just like underage gay men have old men after them too just like underage women do.

Tinder is 80% men what does one expect?

Also a recent study done during a pandemic...

Lift_and_Lurk · 2023-09-05T13:55:29+00:00

I want to know where “the recent study” that shows most men gain sexual experience after 25: because the CDcshows that the average man loses his virginity at 17.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-age-to-lose-virginity-by-state#

“What is the Average Age That Americans Lose Their Virginity? The CDC reports that the average age of losing one’s virginity, referring to penetrative intercourse, is 17.3 years for women and 17.0 years for men”

OkLingonberryx · 2023-09-05T15:13:45+00:00

Getting DMs is not about peaking. It's about normal human sexuality - men are the chasers because of the low-to-nonexistant sexual risk.

Both men and women peak at 25 to 30. Most men get fat and bald by 35. Very few of them become alpha, jacked, and rich as phuck.

The men who "suddenly" find dating easy in their 30s date in their league, as they should have done when they were 20.

obviousredflag · 2023-09-05T12:58:00+00:00

Why don't you realize that it doesn't matter where men start or where they peak. They do not get the treatment from women like women get from men. Because men and women are fundamentally different in their approach to mating. It's biology and you cannot change that. If you think that once men peak they can lean back and have women competing with each other over the attention of the man, you are misguided.

JakeArcher39 · 2023-09-05T13:27:59+00:00

The main issue is that, biologically - and by virtue, psychologically and socioculturally - men and women are valued/desired and admired for different things, at a base-level. Men just aren't valued inherently for their physical appearance alone, in the same way that women are. In addition, youth is a commodity that is incredibly valuable to women specifically (from the standpoint of attraction), not men.

An attractive young man cannot expect to post a 'cute selfie' and get the same level of validation/admiration for his appearance as a young woman of comparable attractiveness can. As a species, we just don't respond to, or perceive, the sexes on equal-footing in that regard. We admire/value men far more so for their utility, ingenuity, talent, and success, than we do women. Which is why - as much as she may moan about it - a woman's 'girlboss grindset' and 'ambition' or 'confidence' isn't going to make her more attractive/admired/valued, in the same way that it would for a comparable man.

Humans have known this since time, and it's why there's always been a massive disparity between how men and women are perceived, interacted with, and expected to behave. Look at history as an over-arching example of this playing out over centuries, across different cultures - women who were painted, made statues of, and written about, were the most beautiful. On the flipside, Men who were painted, made statues of, and written about, were the most capable/successful/powerful. Nobody gave a crap that Genghis Khan had a gut and a receding hairline lol. But Helen of Troy wouldn't have launched a thousand ships if she looked like Susan Boyle...

The issue we have in the modern world, is that alot of men's historic 'valuable' or admirable traits, are at best not necessary, and at worst downright dangerous or something needing to be restrained. We live in a culture that prioritises physical appearance above all else, with a celebrity-led media narrative that makes people obsessed with trying to remain as youthful looking as possible. Look at Love Island as a great example of this at the micro level. The men for all intents and purposes are trying to be valued/admired by the same benchmarks as women are valued - for being youthful and beautiful. We're seeing more and more men getting fake white teeth, getting botox and face-lifts, using sun beds, and spending an inordinate amount of time preening / grooming themselves. Why? Because there's no real widely accepted and genuinely useful 'identity' for men now - there's nothing left to conquer, to defend, to hunt, or to protect. Not in first-world countries, anyway.

Like that quote from Trainspotting - in a thousand years from now, there'll be no more men or women, just wankers".

the_fozzy_one · 2023-09-05T18:59:37+00:00

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G0dZylla · 2023-09-05T13:05:18+00:00

An attractive mean peaks in his 20s not in his 30s , so they definitely do not apply and these guys are like 20% of population

An unnatractive /average man won't peak in his 20s he has to put the work and the effort so when he's in his 30s so he can be desirable to the women Who rejected him in his best years. When he was in his 20s he didn't have the looks, he didn't have the Money he didn't have the status and surely his personality didn't matter, so he Needs to fix himself like there Is something wrong with him to become an option For the women Who rejected him.

eye_of_gnon · 2023-09-05T20:51:30+00:00

that but also because men remain reproductively viable for longer

Uglypostwall · 2023-09-06T12:21:42+00:00

It is true.As postwall woman,I was like "Damn,aging is really not fun.I am so useless" lol.Not gonna lie,I actually cried .Now I get jealous seeing men I know in good position while I am just becoming useless and ugly.

I struggle with life and social status because of my age and also most women are coping badly

purplish_possum · 2023-09-05T14:18:02+00:00

Sorry dude but if a guy isn't sexually experienced by 25 there is something seriously wrong.

januaryphilosopher · 2023-09-05T18:09:08+00:00

That's just how people are treated, you clearly don't know how women normally live. The average woman's Instagram profile is private.

MarBitt · 2023-09-05T13:38:23+00:00

How can people even question that young women are seen as more attractive than young men? Just look at the insta profile of an average man and an average woman.

This is not because of attractiveness, but because men are much more horny and also more active in establishing relationships and seeking sex. If 96% of people were homosexual, then the ratio of those messages between young men and young women would be reversed. And that without the appearance of young men and young women changing in any way.

Glass_Bucket · 2023-09-05T15:52:01+00:00

Men peak later if you want to beta bux.

A 20 year old model or athlete definitely isn’t “at the bottom” of his life

wtknight · 2023-09-05T15:10:00+00:00

I’m pretty sure that younger average men are getting more attention on social media than older average men, so I’m not sure that I buy this idea about men “peaking later”.

CombinationMore4630 · 2023-09-05T13:02:17+00:00

Idk... I was getting all kinds of tail in my late teens.

You gotta get out there... Like how often do you go out to bars and meet new people?

Lovemelikeareptile1 · 2023-09-05T15:11:15+00:00

A man is a nobody only if he believes he is a nobody and acts like he's a nobody.

Chemical_Major_1403 · 2023-09-05T13:02:46+00:00

I think puberty for women automatically make them a contender and a hloder of a valuable asset like sex and emotion , two things that men can't get from anyone besides women so yeah it kind of make women unique by existance but we also should adress how men try to show men who want sex as predators and how some of them are different for not wanting sex as a men in comparaison of others. I think it's just that " pick me " behaviour in men is normalised

gntlbastard · 2023-09-05T14:56:05+00:00

Most of us start at the bottom and a fair percentage of us remain at the bottom. Some due to choice, others due to circumstances and bad luck. We can bitch about it but here is something that is never going to happen - society is never going to care enough to ever help men. You are on your own and the sooner you accept that and stop crying about it the better. The government programs and help are for the ladies, you missed out on the genetic lottery and were born a man.....worse, you were born a poor man. The only advantage you have is that you have 0 expectations of you and you have a blank canvas of a life.

Safinated · 2023-09-05T15:10:29+00:00

Nope, it’s because men want looks and women want money and status

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KayRay1994 · 2023-09-05T14:26:59+00:00

Here’s the thing though - what you seem to be consider value in this context is, frankly, men being horny - ie. these women aren’t taken seriously nor are they particularly seen as individuals, they’re seen as an outlet for some dude’s sexual release. That’s it.

Fact is, if she wasn’t seen as attractive, she wouldn’t get the same kind of attention.

Women, at the other hand, aren’t nearly as horny or as willing to see people from a utilitarian pov - ergo, they look for a lot more in a man than a man does in a woman. By a lot more, I don’t mean the 6-6-6 rule or anything within these lines, but internal characteristics tend to matter a lot more. In other words, a dude has to be really hot to get by on looks alone. But, the good news is, as an average guy, you can create your own worth in various ways whether it be wealth, fitness, extroversion, being really good at a niche, or any combination of these characteristics. That being said, that’s also why men peak at an older age in context of attraction - because, generally speaking, the older anyone gets, the more statistically likely they are to establish themselves.

Typical_Search3368 · 2023-09-05T18:09:09+00:00

What you wrote is essentially all factual and backed by the data.

Dstar538888 · 2023-09-05T20:26:04+00:00

The rate of male loneliness, virginity, and suicide rate is literally the highest it’s ever been in the history of life… I’m not seeing this “peak” that you guys keep talking about🤣

grown_folks_talkin · 2023-09-05T21:13:58+00:00

No it’s because for most guys it takes until 30-35 to really and truly not be ashamed of a goddamn thing, while also having humility. This kind of confidence is extremely attractive. Having the income to not be faxed at the cost of a first date helps as well.

Maybe yes and no because in these characteristics most 21 year-old guys are at rock bottom.

IneffableLiam · 2023-09-06T02:15:03+00:00

Depends if you wanna be a provider or a fuck boy

Because guys are at the hottest before 30 generally unless they are an exception

bruhminer · 2023-09-06T14:52:39+00:00

Most men don't peak at an older age, at least not according to criteria that makes the most sense.

If you're considering "peak" when you're the most attractive, the only way that can be measured is by number of partners, however both men and women have the most sexual partners when they're younger, so this does not make much sense.

SlashCo80 · 2023-09-06T15:11:07+00:00

How can people even question that young women are seen as more attractive than young men? Just look at the insta profile of an average man and an average woman. The average woman can post one pic and gets dozens of dms. The average man is mostly ignored.

That's just due to men being thirsty simps and fuckbois.

Able-Imagination3695 · 2023-09-06T20:08:40+00:00

No one that I know denies that young women are seen as more attractive than young men. In fact, I would argue that the crux of so much redpill pain is specifically that young women are being driven away from young men due to older, more established men, swooping in and effectively "poaching" their potential dates in their age group from them. At least, that's what they claim. I've noticed that redpillers like to create extremely elaborate stories in their minds to justify why they're single.

The thing I see consistently amongst redpilled young men is that there's this giant focus on career. Career and money, career and money. You won't get a girl until you acquire a good career and money. And you know what their isn't a focus on?

Acquiring social wealth. There's no focus on becoming the cool guy, on establishing a social network independent of your quest for women and sex. There's no focus on establishing relationships with other strong, successful men who can teach you tips and tricks and hopefully get you at their level in time.

Do you know what men in their 20s have that men in their 30s dont? They have social networks that the girls can be a part of, where they share things relevant to their age group with each other. Women like men who have social pull within their circles, women like men that other men RESPECT. Women like men who have friends. Women like cool guys, this isn't brand new information.

When in my 20s, I dated guys in my 20s too. I dated guys who were cool, who had friends, who held the respect of other men in a social setting. Most young women in their 20s aren't dating 35 year olds - they're also dating guys in their 20s. But you wouldn't know this if you're a guy who has no friends.

spacemanofthezone · 2023-09-07T07:17:09+00:00

Delusional. I'm 29, a lot of the HS boys have gained 40+ lbs and started balding. Boys were hottest physically at 18-22 - those who had the potential and lifted, at least.

The most facially handsome and psychologically OK men are married with young kids right now. The manwhores are mid range. The fugly boys either got a fuggo gf or are alone.

As far as I can tell it's not hard at all to whore around with "nothing serious" in your tinder bio as a man, at least not in my generation. If you want a decent and attractive partner for a relationship, you best be decent and attractive as a man, cuz that's how the market is.

At about 30 some existential fear starts to settle in with the men who never had a real - real relationship. Those who have potential work on their selves. But truth is girls skin is better, they are slimmer cuz they have more pressure to stay thin, and they know how to fuckin choose an outfit.

I dunno, but women expire at 25 is some delusional cope.

PS. My experience is from Europe, Berlin more specifically, and may not apply to USA dunno.

Title	Yes men peak at an older age than women. But that's because most men start at the bottom
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