What explains the difference in how some men respond to authority, admiration, and emotion when it comes from women versus other men.

LopsidedPen9859 · 2026-07-22T13:00:46+00:00

https://cepa.stanford.edu/news/understanding-gender-effects-teacher-student-interactions

Both male and female students are more likely to be perceived as disruptive by teachers of the opposite sex.

You can kind of look at it as boys and men having one culture while girls and women have another.

So what biases you against the outgroup and what your particular expectations, priorities, and so on depend a lot on your genders' culture.

Of course, within that, plenty of people don't fit, plenty prefer the other, there's a million other effects, etc.

But school is a fascinating example because of how heavily female the teaching profession is. So, at least overall, it actually shouldn't be too surprising that boys struggle- there is, overall, a cultural mismatch.

Outsider98 · 2026-07-22T12:55:27+00:00

Usually acknowledgment of the man’s physical capacity to harm compared to the average woman’s, or just plain sexism.

Another thing is that male politicians are able to command authority more when they raise and project their voice due to their height and body size - a female politician who projects her voice in the exact same manner is far more likely to be seen as “aggressive” rather than assertive.

This is partly why taller men are statistically more likely to earn more than shorter men (as well as the Halo Effect because it increases their attractiveness) and most successful male politicians are tall.

Gold_Sheepherder6569 · 2026-07-22T12:50:53+00:00

Some of these scenarios you describe are different like the one with the freshman and the teachers was likely just because he understood that the isn't much the female teacher can do to him compared to an adult male who could physically hurt him. Part of it is due to sexism like dismissing women's opinions and the women only watch sports because they are attracted to the players.

I also disagree with the IShowSpeed idolization of Ronaldo vs Swifties, people do make fun of men for obsession with celebrities or various media hence the exists of the word fanboy even speed specifically has been made fun of for it(in this comment section for example). In the case of Swifties, they are actually more unhinged that your typical fan male or female.

PhaseExtra1132 · 2026-07-22T16:34:26+00:00

I don’t know about your school but the female teachers at mine were basically the same height as the students.

The male teachers were the only ones who actually looked like to us as “adults”.

If the guys at 14 are 5 7 and the teachers are 5 5. I’m sorry but there will be a basic level of questioning the hierarchy that’s exists.

MarioWilson122 · 2026-07-22T17:50:03+00:00

I think you're grouping together a lot of different behaviors that don't necessarily have the same explanation.

The teacher example could just as easily be about physical authority or fear of consequences rather than respect for men. A student might ignore one teacher but comply with another because they perceive one as stricter, regardless of sex.

The celebrity examples aren't really equivalent either. Men who cry over athletes get mocked all the time for being obsessed, just like women who are called "crazy fangirls." Both sexes have stereotypes attached to extreme fandom.

As for the manosphere point, valuing another man's opinion doesn't mean women are inherently seen as less valuable. People generally look to those with more experience in areas they want to improve. Men seeking dating advice from men is no different than women often seeking relationship advice from other women.

Overall, I don't think the examples demonstrate that men generally value men's opinions over women's. They show that context matters, and there are plenty of situations where women are listened to more than men as well. The examples are too varied to support the broader conclusion you're drawing.

stats135 · 2026-07-22T14:08:02+00:00

Some men dismiss women's opinions, but if another man says the exact same thing, suddenly it's taken seriously.

Its a matter of what is backing those opinions. As an overarching principle, I do NOT respect emotions.

I find that women appeal to emotion way more often than men. It is "Stop doing that, I don't LIKE it". Worse still women tend to appeal to others emotions, like "Stop doing that, others don't like it".

For men it is grounded on the physical and tangible. It is "Stop doing that, people paid good money to be here". Its subtle, but it makes a whole world of difference. Yes, other people might not like it, but I'm not asked to respect their emotion, but their financial stake.

Often times it shows in the word choice. Women just tend to emotion-related language. Women care that people might get "hurt", while men tell you people might get "injured".

Major-Platypus2092 · 2026-07-22T12:38:18+00:00

Some men are sexist. Conservative cultures are going to be even more sexist because they specifically value hierarchical male leadership and raise their populations this way, so of course yes the dynamic will be stronger there.

Nature at its finest? I’m not even sure what that means. It’s just behavior that has been reinforced by an environment or not stopped by an environment.

Total_Bumblebee_622 · 2026-07-22T14:19:11+00:00

Women use authority differently. And they use emotions differently as well.

I think men respond to women the way they do partially because of the lack of physical imposition or a credible show of skill. Men will learn from those who have something to teach them, if they value what's taught and have confidence in the teacher.

If you're the boss, you need to be better at the job than they are.

Men respond to the perception of aptitude. They have to be impressed. Titles don't mean anything on their own, it's what the title implies.

And sometimes women are the equivalent of a fat personal trainer that wonders why they don't get the same amount of clients.

Emotions.

I think men and boys are just generally suspicious of women's emotions because of negative experiences with or around them.

Just speaking personally, I've often found that women have a harder time telling the difference between what's true and what's felt, and the more they get wrapped up in what's felt, the more ungrounded they get.

And when it's directed at media that shapes their perceptions of men the impulse to stop that process early is even stronger.

Cause if a woman watches a man do something on a screen that 99% can't do and that becomes her new baseline, that woman is now going to focus her attention on whatever it is that she liked, regardless of if it's attainable.

And when millions of women do that, cultural shifts can happen. Social contagions are stronger in women, they conform to each other more. There's an aspect to women's socialization that is innately threatening to men because we don't have a counter to general opinion once the ball gets rolling.

And you can see that in gender war discourse.

Once things catch on, there's no more discussion to be had.

If Women feel they're right on something, you can either agree or be an enemy. That stubbornness can be an existential threat depending on what it's directed at.

lankyluke00 · 2026-07-22T14:23:29+00:00

Is this a joke? Otherwise you wasted a surprising amount of time putting together a very basic and lazy strawman.

Big_Psychology_3 · 2026-07-22T14:36:28+00:00

OP, did you also examine how female students respond to authority from men vs women?

Regarding the male students, it seems related to growing up in a primarily female-authority environment (school)?

Destinyciello · 2026-07-22T12:44:08+00:00

The freshman cowering to a male PE teacher is pretty simple to comprehend. The woman teacher can't kick his ass. The male PE teacher can. The authority comes from the capacity from brutality. That is just how ancient ape like brain structure reacting in an innate manner.

You can take the ape out of the forest. But you can't take the forest out of the ape. Our environment has changed a lot over the last 2000 years. Genes take a lot longer to adjust.

anonymousppd123123 · 2026-07-22T13:24:46+00:00

Some men dismiss women's opinions, but if another man says the exact same thing, suddenly it's taken seriously.

Who says a message has a massive sway in how seriously it's taken. Random guy off the street says there's an AI bubble, vs Michael Burry. Who are you taking more seriously?

I've personally seen my perceived competence rise, where saying the exact same thing as before, people take me seriously because they know i do stuff correctly and build things that work, and i know what doesn't work. So I can be the same person saying the same message but now people sit down and listen.

Women are always so quick to say that nobody listens because they're women, and not because of their track record of how they carry themselves. If a man talks over you it's mansplaining, not realizing that everyone talks over everyone in a heated corp meeting. You're not special. What's that line, when you're accustomed to privilege fairness feels like oppression? Your lack of leadership is on you lol.

People who discard valuable ideas because of who said them will fail in a competitive marketplace, but I think a lot of what happens is gross overestimation of the value provided. I don't see women with good ideas not being granted authority. They're just so rare compared to dunning kruger peak of mt stupid. You have to earn respect and admiration, often by letting people not listen to you and watching them fail and letting higher ups see how everything failed without your involvement. If you don't have this as a weapon, you walk away and things collapse without your leadership, your ideas suck and you should be talked over

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Current_Tax4903 · 2026-07-22T15:47:49+00:00

We all judge people based on a story and not just one interaction. Your girlfriends can insult you or call you bitch but if a random guy does it it’s a massive problem. The same exact action, but different intent is assumed based on the identity of the person. And yes, sex plays a role in your personality, men and women are drastically different.

Btw Ishowspeed is a bad example, his entire brand is a to act a maniac.

Livid-Log7463 · 2026-07-22T20:43:34+00:00

Was the female teacher capable of being as assertive or threatening as the male coach? I suspect not.

As for celebrities, while I think it’s stupid either way, the fans of a sports superstar are fans because the person is at the pinnacle of human physical ability and that’s where the idolization comes from, so it would make sense not to understand idolization of things outside of that.

TopShelfSnipes · 2026-07-22T22:48:01+00:00

Some men are obsessed with validation from other men, usually because they have very rigid hierarchical views of human interactions, and are dead set on being validated in a strong position in that hierarchy.

Usually these guys are tryhards, however, and rarely have actual power. So much of their behavior comes off as posturing. Picture every low-level middle manager who bullies the people who work for him (women can fall into these traps too, in hierarchical structures), but immediately softens, kisses ass, and subserviently tells his boss he will get him "whatever you need, boss." Now take that mental image, place it a mixed-gender environment, and imbue the man with an unhealthy dose of desire for male-specific validation so that he can cement his place in a social hierarchy that is often a construct of his own mind.

I suspect it's worse in rigid hierarchical cultures...I've seen Indian men in the US do this often (which I suppose makes sense coming out of a caste system) but it's usually the older ones and not the kids who were raised with Western values in most cases.

However, to most men who aren't caught up in trying to signal status to other men, or those exhausting friend groups where guys are constantly trying to out-macho each other, this whole dynamic is offputting AF.

Those men who are obsessed with glazing other men and talking down the accomplishments of women, are engaging in similar behavior in a slightly less unhealthy way than the "out-macho" guys are.

Plenty of men see this shit for what it is - stupid - and don't do it at all, and those are often the healthiest friend groups because people aren't trying to prove something within them...they're just there enjoying each others' company, and those are the friends who you can actually count on to have each other's backs when needed since they aren't putting on appearances.

Dramatic_Gopher42069 · 2026-07-26T02:49:12+00:00

I mean meeting Messi v TS is night and day... one is a legend in his field, the other just capitalizes on her next breakup.

davidmetty · 2026-07-22T16:20:07+00:00

The dynamic you describe isn’t a cultural choice; it’s biological programming rooted in evolutionary roles. Men are fundamentally wired to seek authority, assign value, and feel validated through action and dominant opinion. Women, by contrast, are wired to observe, react emotionally, and validate their worth through relationships, and perception.

Men are defined by action, dominance, judgment, and high-stakes emotional display. Women are defined by intuition, perception, connection, and the necessary reaction to that dominant reality. Your observations are merely a confirmation of the undeniable truth: the system is designed around male leadership and female submission.

The world is structured to validate the man who acts decisively and dismiss the woman who merely feels or speaks. It’s not a quirk.

Title	What explains the difference in how some men respond to authority, admiration, and emotion when it comes from women versus other men.
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Date	July 22, 2026 12:34 PM UTC (2 weeks ago)
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