How many men would actually be willing to be in a relationship with women who are virgins in their mid/late twenties?

WhatIsTheMeaningHere · 2019-03-02T09:24:07+00:00

I would. There's not really much experience you need as a woman to be good at sex and as far as I'm concerned men don't rate sexual performance the way women do so her being a virgin is hardly any practical issue as long as she's acutally an adult woman with a realistic view of sex I don't really see an issue. If she has completely unrealistic views of sexual relationships then that would be an issue.

KingWithoutClothes · 2019-03-02T02:01:38+00:00

Well, I had my first time with the girl I later ended up marrying. It was also her first time. We were both 22 at the time. So... take this as you will.

To be, this whole virgin-issue is so difficult to discuss because most people leave out the nuances. For example hardly anyone ever asks why someone is still a virgin at 25 or 27. There are tons of reasons for this and not all of them are related to be being an ugly, socially inept basement-dweller. For example the reason I lost my virginity quite late is because I have a physical disability. I consider myself fairly handsome and gregarious but it is a fact that finding partners - especially sexual partners is much harder when you're disabled. Especially with the disability I have. My girlfriend (and now wife) on the other hand comes from South Korea, which is a very conservative culture. While her parents aren't religious, they are very strict. She basically spent her entire youth studying 15 hours a day at school (yes, her school day LITERALLY lasted from 8am - 11pm). There was simply no time or energy to do anything with guys. Let alone the fact that her parents wouldn't have allowed it. And even once she got into university, things remained difficult... until she visited my country and met me, that is. In South Korea, it is actually very normal for people to lose their virginity late. This is particularly true if they come from the kind of upper-middle class bubble that my wife comes from, where parents are usually super tough about education and want you to become the next Supreme Court Justice and world-famous surgeon. Pretty much all of my wife's girlfriends lost their virginity after her. One of them lost it just recently, around the age of 29.

So yes, I would absolutely date (and marry) a girl who is still a virgin in her mid or late 20s because I understand there are tons of reasons why this might be the case. Her virginity is honestly not a big issue to me. What I care about is that she is sweet, kind, empathetic, understanding, loyal, honest... those kind of things.

The reason I probably wouldn't date a woman with a "high count" is not because I think of them in a bad way but simply because I believe we wouldn't fit together. For example a woman who dates a lot and has sex with lots of guys presumably likes to party a lot too. She probably likes going out a lot, going to nightclubs and stuff like that. Contrary to that, I am very much a homebody. I do enjoy going out for dinner or movie dates but I don't enjoy doing anything "wild". I'm not into bars or nightclubs or other nightlife related activities. Hence, such a woman would probably find me very boring, while I would probably find her hyperactive and too "wild". It just wouldn't be a good match.

Taipanshimshon · 2019-03-01T23:16:59+00:00

Ideal somewhere in between.

Depends on the context and reason.

The_Frag_Man · 2019-03-02T02:51:46+00:00

I would.

gilliandrew · 2019-03-02T04:14:52+00:00

i was 19 the first time i had sex. i didnt tell the dude. he had no idea. and reading so many of these comments, im glad i didnt tell him. it was none of his business.

this fixation on the female body hymen thing and this mythical virginity concept is a huge turnoff.

Massgumption · 2019-03-02T05:44:23+00:00

Definitely, she will be far more emotionally stable, less privileged and less likely to look for better options unless she's mistreated. Once a girl has been around the block, she gets "Princess syndrome", realises the power she has over men (also how easy/expendable they are) and basically acts like you've won the lottery to to be with her.

The gfs I've had were virgins (or close to) were far nicer and more grateful on everyday niceties, and the highest n count tended to blow a casket when you make one tiny mistake...

[deleted] · 2019-03-01T23:33:20+00:00

Have before, 1000000% would again.

[deleted] · 2019-03-02T00:30:43+00:00

I'm largely attracted to women older than me, so yeah this sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

Aldehydee · 2019-03-02T03:59:52+00:00

Do those types of women even exist?

Regardless, I very much would date such a woman.

CamoWoobie100 · 2019-03-01T23:20:23+00:00

Would prefer she was a young virgin

SDW137 · 2019-03-01T23:36:11+00:00

I wouldn't mind.

[deleted] · 2019-03-02T00:05:28+00:00

I dont care if a woman is a virgin, but I might care about why though.

The-Wizard-of-Oz- · 2019-03-02T03:53:13+00:00

Totally.

Moldy_Gecko · 2019-03-02T14:29:36+00:00

Considering your OP, you got your answer. Most men. However a virgin in their mid 20s and their not hideous is about as unicornish as you can get nowadays.

maljo24 · 2019-03-02T12:56:34+00:00

Not me. I want a woman who likes sex. Women who like sex are having sex.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2019-03-01T23:19:07+00:00

Depends really. My only worry with a virgin is that she would just not want to have sex after she shits out a couple kids from her large intestine. That seems to be a common thing.

A couple long term relationships is probably ideal for me.

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Mescalean · 2019-03-02T03:13:05+00:00

Me.

supernerdycyclist · 2019-03-02T06:12:00+00:00

Not a problem, would be pretty for that and save sex until marriage.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2019-03-02T06:38:35+00:00

Not me.

AstuteBlackMan · 2019-03-02T08:36:10+00:00

Dont mind at all

zayelion · 2019-03-02T08:43:40+00:00

As long as they arent very religious. Occasionally I run into women like this, they are fine.

Dweller_of_the_Abyss · 2019-03-02T09:45:55+00:00

masterpiece00 · 2019-03-02T10:20:51+00:00

Bit too old, I'd question why someone that old hasn't been able to get a man (turning men off with something hidden about her personality perhaps?)

But if she was good looking (above 7/10), thin and ok personality i'd give her a shot.

exit_sandman · 2019-03-02T14:24:04+00:00

Probably not, but more because of the reasons that led to her being a virgin and not the virginity as such.

Clit-cheese · 2019-03-02T14:38:30+00:00

A LOT MORE than there would be women willing to take male virgins in higher age.

I've literally overheard women so many times saying how big of a red flag that is for them, and that something has to be wrong with virgins.

[deleted] · 2019-03-02T22:05:37+00:00

In my experience, women that are still virgins past the age of around 20 have some sort of issue or hangup. Best case scenario, they're just waiting for marriage. More often they aren't having sex because they're horribly horribly insecure, or they're extremely unattractive, or both. Sometimes they're just horrible to be around in every way possible. I know a couple that are "waiting for the right guy" but the right guy seemingly never comes along for some reason.

iceicle999 · 2019-03-02T00:08:13+00:00

I wouldn't mind, hypothetically, but tropes in my head tell me that she may have serious mental hangups if she is a woman and she has reached that stage of her life under that status. Or she may have certain deformities. I cannot find any data that appears legitimate when it comes to women who are in that age range under that status. I can only imagine they would be a very small portion of the population.

cxj · 2019-03-02T03:20:05+00:00

These men want to date tight young Virgin barely legal teens not asexual 25 year old virgins

leftwingsoysquad · 2019-03-02T02:05:30+00:00

I deflowered a chick in her mid 20's and didn't realize it until she told me months later. Chicks lie about their n-count by omission due to virgin shaming social pressure also.

Edit: "Fuck, I was going to guess seven! Then multiply it by three in my head! DAMN YOU FEMCELS!"

SirNemesis · 2019-03-01T23:51:00+00:00

I'd rather date her when she is 19.

hammerhaunts · 2019-03-01T23:30:05+00:00

I would.

beachredwhine · 2019-03-02T01:26:40+00:00

What's wrong with her? Obese? Hideous? Hates or fears sex? Insane? Anyway my answer is no. Tried that actually with a 28 year old virgin. She was a virgin for a reason.

gunbusterxl · 2019-03-02T01:34:22+00:00

I'd give it a try, but I would be more alert for red flags. Most people are virgins for a reason.

thrownaway2thewind · 2019-03-02T02:11:13+00:00

Well I did just turn down a 22 year old virgin, not because she was ugly or anything but because she was a bitch. Not surprising that she is a virgin thinking back.

Still wouldn't date a slut though

-OpportunityCost · 2019-03-02T05:14:28+00:00

The thing about a woman in her mid/late twenties that is a virgin is that there is most likely a significant reason she is a virgin. Either super religious, awful social skills, medical issues, etc. I wouldn't have an issue if she was 24 and just had never found someone she really wanted to have sex with. But if she is 30 there has gotta be a red flag reason why she is still a virgin.

JameisBong · 2019-03-02T05:36:45+00:00

Less than 4 partners is fine... anything over that is a No Go for me these days. I think the best thing about a virgin or someone with a low N count is coachability. Once you've had 30 plus dicks in you i think your ability to be coached and even pair bond is lost.

Moldy_Gecko · 2019-03-02T07:25:36+00:00

Yeesh a late 20s virgin woman. Like Nessie the Loch Ness Monster; probably don't exist except in people's fantasies or in fake photographs.

Would I date one. Maybe but likely no. They don't exist and also even if they did if they have chosen (always chosen) to wait this long they probably have vaginismus by now.

cute_pandawhale · 2019-03-01T23:25:31+00:00

Some men are control freaks, a girl having a high body count makes them feel insecure about themselves and the relationship, it makes them feel less in control, which is why they want girls with the less experience as possible, so they can't disappoint her with their lack of skill, when you don't know much about sex you won't know your needs and what you like or have demands, it basically empowers the guy as well because you won't know what you want and he will give you what he wants.

It is more along this lines, a lot of men will be telling themselves that it is actually because they want family and therefore are not starting a relationship with a whore, some very conservative crap as an excuse to not getting laid and their insecurity towards the opposite sex, but the reality is that guys want to be in control of the situation and the more you know, the more experience you have, the more insecure he feels.

So answering your question: A lot of men would be willing to be in a relationship with virgin girls in their mid/late twenties, because your lack of experience in sex makes them feel empowered.

Of course this is about the dominant kind of men, which composes a big part of all men, some really don't care and others are more submissive, but I think that it is easier to find the first guys who want to be "a real man" in their words rather than the other types.

leftwingsoysquad · 2019-03-02T01:50:24+00:00

Your definition of "sex worker" is too broad. If she was an escort or took dick, then she is a "sex worker". If she got paid for sitting on her ass and looking pretty, she is just a non-reddit woman.

CosmicBioHazard · 2019-03-02T02:29:42+00:00

100%

just 100%

[deleted] · 2019-03-02T08:14:51+00:00

Early 20s no problem. Mid twenties - nah

[deleted] · 2019-03-02T10:42:48+00:00

Depends why she is a virgin. Is she just shy or does she have some kind of religious hangups about sex?

Sir_Koopaman · 2019-03-02T16:30:35+00:00

I'd be more willing to date this type of woman so long as she's not ultra-religious.

EGOtyst · 2019-03-02T17:37:16+00:00

All of them, if she's not and not retarded. Less if she's fat and mean. 20% of them, at the lowest.

daveofmars · 2019-03-02T21:44:48+00:00

Yeah I would in the general sense, but with anything there are exceptions. Is she a virgin because she doesn't bathe? If so, then no. Is she a virgin because she grew up on, and then had to take over, the family farm and had no opportunities to date? If so, then probably.

Ultramegasaurus · 2019-03-03T08:08:56+00:00

I would happily, but I might as well start looking for vegan pink dragons to date.

[deleted] · 2019-03-03T18:20:11+00:00

For most men that's actually a turn on and in our Muslim community it's a huge advantaged to be a virgin before marriage

SeemedGood · 2019-03-09T13:32:31+00:00

Most definitely. And they would have a substantially better chance of being considered for LTR.

WhyMeThough1 · 2019-03-20T12:24:11+00:00

Even Chads don't want virgin pussy. Hard No!

dag44 · 2019-03-01T23:37:14+00:00

Nope. I'd prefer if her N is not too low, and not too high. Maybe somewhere in the range of 5 - 20, at an age of mid/late 20s.

CrestfallenWolf · 2019-03-02T00:25:08+00:00

5+ year LTR with a virgin when we met in late 20's Now both in our 30s

I never understood the obsession with N count. I've had great and terrible relationships with virgins and higher N then me.

CuntarianOverlord · 2019-03-02T03:19:23+00:00

i would i love hooking up with girls that are sluts but as far as getting any type of commitment out of me you gotta have a semi low to low body count sluts are incapable of pair bonding deny it all you want this is science

Planetof12 · 2019-03-02T09:12:13+00:00

I don't care how many sex partners a woman had, whether it's zero or 100. So long as her attitude towards sex is liberal and open-minded, it's all good.

Oh, there is the whole STD thing, but it's not in the "You're a dirty slut" thing. Rather, it's "Let's get checked to be on the safe side". I don't see any moral failure in women that have lots of sex - slut-shaming is stupid.

crackrocksteady7 · 2019-03-01T23:17:45+00:00

Nope

Salty-Bastard · 2019-03-01T23:21:29+00:00

Nope

MrHerbSherman · 2019-03-01T23:27:42+00:00

Idk depends what she’s like in bed I guess

FleshPanda · 2019-03-02T03:17:08+00:00

That would be fine if she was a virgin. But I'm a sick fuck so the type of woman that would stay a virgin into her 20s wouldnt be attatactive to me for other reasons.

MGTOWtoday · 2019-03-02T03:34:09+00:00

Well if she’s a virgin at that age, then she probably looks like hell got ran over by the ugly truck.

Anonshockdandroastd · 2019-03-02T08:19:25+00:00

I think OP is ignoring the the real claim made by these men. Notice the use of "because" in their description. Let me break down their (men OP is referring to) argument using simple formatting in simple terms:

Point: I wouldn't date a women with high n counts

Evidence: high n counts lowers their (women) ability to sustain a long term

Explanation: I want a sustainable long term relationship so this trait is not desirable

Whereas OP's argument misses fundamentals

Point: I wouldn't date a women with low n counts (later in life)

Evidence: low n counts ____?

Explanation: ______? so this trait is not desirable

what OP not realizing is that it's not the high n count that is undesirable; it's the unsustainable relationship. There's nothing inherently wrong with high n counts just the same way there is nothing wrong with low n counts; it's effects or associated behaviors that are the issue. I don't want to date someone who I will have an unsustainable relationship with, nor do I want to date a psychopath cultist who is saving herself for the devil.

The fact that women are labelled by high or low n counts, instead of their significant traits, is the real issue to me.

Note: it is more probable these people will have these traits, not saying that they do/will with certainty

PlantainNationalism · 2019-03-02T14:24:57+00:00

That's a huge yikes. I want a fresh loaf of bread. Not one that's been picked apart by seagulls and not one that's been sitting on the counter for 25 years.

[deleted] · 2019-03-02T11:44:16+00:00

Men will just claim such women don’t exist because they’re misogynists who use the term “woman” and “whore” synonymously

inco2018 · 2019-03-01T23:51:14+00:00

How many men would actually be willing to be in a relationship with women who are virgins in their mid/late twenties?

I cannot say about other men, nor you should be asking "how many men" but if I could guess. Around 30-50% of the male population in the west? Maybe?

I myself wouldn't want a virgin. They are a headache to deal with. But many have this dream, mostly religious men. Religious men in the end are still majority. Soooo that is why I guess such number.

most of RP men want low n count women because they are less of a headache than virgins and less of a danger than high N count women. Perfect balance

Something I see a lot of in this sub is men who like to claim that they wouldn’t be with women with high n counts because it lowers their ability to sustain a long term relationship

You are confusing "not wanting high N count women" with "wanting virgins". Any women who does not have high n count, comparatively, is good enough. They want women who aren't the female equivalent of a womanizer. Not saint maries.

shipiaozi · 2019-03-02T02:34:36+00:00

Quite common in China, so...

Title	How many men would actually be willing to be in a relationship with women who are virgins in their mid/late twenties?
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