Would you say women are as disgusted by male sexuality as men are of “sluts”?

Salty-Bastard · 2019-02-18T01:04:10+00:00

Two different things. I've gone at it with a couple of well known blues on this sub who saw no problem getting 12 year olds drunk and raping them. Taking the innocence of a child whether it's sexually or burdening a child with adult responsibilities is reprehensible. There are plenty of young looking adult women to fulfill that desire.

Regarding top men or young women. That's an adult playing field and to the victor go the spoils, but leave the kids out of it ffs.

waywarddancer · 2019-02-18T02:13:48+00:00

I made the mistake of dating a guy like that once, back when I was more naive. He was super turned on by the fact that I was a virgin who went to a Catholic school. Though he got pretty annoyed that a 19-year-old Catholic virgin wasn't as quick to put out as he thought and called me a mentally ill freak after a couple of weeks of trying. Needless to say we're not together anymore.

philomexa · 2019-02-18T01:04:53+00:00

Yeah, the creep radar was definitely pinging from that comment.

321PK · 2019-02-18T00:54:17+00:00

I agree with you. It’s really disgusting. I can’t help but feel that guys who get off on this massive power/experience imbalance are some massive weirdos. Like, they’re really messed up mentally.

321PK · 2019-02-18T01:38:40+00:00

Completely agree. We have another poster who wants to find girls "nice older men to explore their sexuality with" as soon as they have their periods. Because all girls are sex crazed after (wtf) and they'll be able to snare themselves a good husband. I choked down my mouthpuke to engage on the basis of power imbalance and grooming vibes and he got all: "I'm sOrRy Ur oLd n DoN'T gEt iT! GYNOCRACY STRIKES AGAIN strawman omg here's a medal for attacking my great idea!" <--that word salad is a surprisingly good approximation of his less lucid posts.

Edit: The downvotes of aspiring child molesters aren't as offensive as you guys think. Make them capable of stopping barf reactions and I'll beg for them like you imagine periods make girls beg for sex 🙄

tickledpic · 2019-02-18T02:01:13+00:00

their natural desire for a woman who never knew attraction/desire before him

Those are not succesful men who talk like that. Maybe there is some rare ladies man who has a fetish of deflowering girls, but for the most part those are guys who can't get laid (or very rarely can).

Because they are frustrated they fantasize about it a lot. They project their anger on other men in their fantasies, as it's their fault for dirtying women. It only makes sense that they want a girl who is not touched by those dirty men with their disgusting dicks.

They fantasize about it so much that the image of naked guys spoiling the fun for them get's ingrained in their brains.

In short, losers have loser problems.

SkookumTree · 2019-02-18T02:47:36+00:00

I think women are more disgusted by and afraid of male sexuality than men’s disgust of “sluts”.

justfortingles · 2019-02-18T04:22:37+00:00

I'm going to throw my voice in the ring as a woman who is not at all disgusted by male sexuality or male desires.

I agree that it is reprehensible for much older men to sexually prey on much younger women. But I think that having the desire to "deflower" or mate with a young woman is different from acting on that desire.

I've never been a man, but I can imagine what it must be like to live with reproductive urges that scream MUST MATE WITH BEAUTIFUL YOUNG WOMAN AND KEEP HER AWAY FROM OTHER MEN. I think it's a given that this is purely an evolutionary "pass on my genes" strategy.

I've often experienced strong sexual desires for certain men that made me think WTF?! but I don't actually *act* on those desires.

For me, disgust is reserved for those who act on desires that are hurtful to themselves or other people.

GridReXX · 2019-02-18T18:14:03+00:00

Women are even disgusted by mild expressions of male sexuality like porn use, eyeing up women, jerking off or stutteringly trying to ask for a date... so long as she sees that male as low value.

Women are repelled by low value men trying to be sexual in any way, shape or form. As to the particular poster you mentioned, his virgin-seeking -- which is far in excess of ordinary male desire for a non-slut -- indicates deep insecurity and therefore low value. That's why you hate him. If he was trying to slobber and m'lady all over you, even though you're probably older or on par with him age wise, he'd still come off as creepy and you would still think to yourself "ew gross, kill it with fire."

sublimemongrel · 2019-02-18T00:56:05+00:00

That guy sounds like he was trying to elicit a reaction or something

cxj · 2019-02-18T09:56:25+00:00

I would say women are far more disgusted by male sexuality than men are by sluts. To the point where women collectively go into great denial about what male sexuality really is until they think their skin is really in the game, IE a male babysitter or anyone trying to date their daughter, ever.

The existence of women who have sex with "many" men is hard to dispute but it is much easier to pretend the darker elements of male sexuality are "just a few bad apples" or "cultural products" or whatever

Modernlaugh · 2019-02-18T01:22:26+00:00

Some who want virgins or low n-count are motivated by taking innocence or power imbalance

Others who want virgins or low n-count are deciding that if you’re easy or were at one point easy it’s not worth the effort especially if you spontaneously decide to increase the hoops needed to jump through for a specific guy.

CombatStacey · 2019-02-18T02:47:35+00:00

I don't think it's male sexuality to want very young girls and innocence. I think that's cultural. Men who want to have sex with children have largely stunted brain development - something is very wrong with them - else it's cultural and due to erroneous beliefs. Such cultures won't last or do well in the longterm.

Most people (both men and women) are disgusted by it. And I think the reason is due to evolution. People in tribes would have seen that old men (the few that were able to sire babies ) would have produced more offspring with mutations. (Just the same as tribes would have seen that the offspring of siblings and cousins are more likely to have mutations). And so people in general would want young women to have babies with young men.

People these days feel disgust when they see a much older man pursuing a young woman because it is probably in our DNA to know that the healthiest babies don't come from such a union. The healthiest babies come from two young people.

The younger the girl that a man wants, the more disgust people feel, because they instinctively know that it's bad for the tribe. And very bad for the girl, who isn't ready for sex. And so people would want to guard against practices like that.

abaxeron · 2019-02-18T03:11:24+00:00

Thoughts ?

I knew some people who lumped "reached age of consent", "reached age of majority", and "little kid" into one and the same category. Most of them were in their 70s-80s.

People fuck. There's nothing you can do about it.

To answer your titular question, No; I think women are disgusted by men, period. Women are disgusted by creepy men, puritan men, bisexual men, asexual men, gay men, experienced men, and male virgins. Sexually active men are predatory; sexually inactive men are suspicious; sexually deprived men are dangerous, etc. Men are quite fond of sluts; we just don't consider them wife material.

diffdedbed · 2019-02-18T03:17:48+00:00

I don't think is being disgusted by male sexuality, as this males sexuality. I find it creepy too.

openoids · 2019-02-18T09:08:53+00:00

Agree 100 percent. This is someone with no moral compass who cares more about a few minutes of pleasure for themselves without considering anything else.

Planetof12 · 2019-02-19T10:47:43+00:00

When I express my desire to have multiple sex partners - and I insist 'slut shamibg' is a disgusting act and I'm fine with women with the same desire - I get odd looks.

People are afraid of sex.

despisedlove2 · 2019-02-18T01:40:55+00:00

Before the sexual revolution, men expected the women they married to be virgins, who were often much younger. So, this type of attraction is nothing out of the ordinary. A low n count woman is also less likely to divorce her husband. Of course, once you start talking about girls as young as 16 or younger, you are entering pedophilia territory.

As to women, they have married sexually active men, which I assume is what you mean by the feminist red herring in your question, for centuries. Even now, when women can earn their own living. So, it doesn't appear that they are disgusted by it.

CamoWoobie10 · 2019-02-18T01:55:18+00:00

I have to say, I agree with whoever made those comments. 🤣

GridReXX · 2019-02-18T00:55:31+00:00

I don't think disgust is the right word, but yeah I also feel leery and protective when I hear men talking like that. I think it's very different to the feeling some men get when confronted with sluts, though. It's not a visceral "ew", but just acknowledging that male sexuality is predatory and dangerous to women when unchecked.

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hammerhaunts · 2019-02-18T00:55:01+00:00

Some of them

mgtow_1 · 2019-02-18T03:15:44+00:00

Did you get clarification on what "young as possible" meant? He could have meant a lot of things by that statement.

exit_sandman · 2019-02-18T10:40:54+00:00

For me, for whatever innate reason, I’m always leery of men who speak like that. It instantly makes me protective of little kids and my first thought is that man shouldn’t be around any child or adolescent or young teen in my care.

Something about the wording conjured rapey creepy dudes who commissioned madams to find them “untouched adolescent girls to defile for their pleasure.”

For me, his words summoned the mental image of a shy 20 year old in a white gown, and not of a 13 year prostitute.

rus9384 · 2019-02-18T13:37:06+00:00

I'm not disguisted by sluts at all. I like them. It's all just a matter of taste. I guess many girls find my sexuality disguisting, as my jokes are very vulgar.

But to make it clear, I'm not into LTR. I'm more into spinning plates. The guy you quoted is into LTR.

My own theory is that some people, both men and women, were (if we talk about natural human habitat, ~~hunter-gatherer~~ societies) more sexual and others were more parenting and childcaring. I'm expecting high sociosexuality to be correlated with being chilfree, but my question on Psy.SE is still unanswered and there is no research on that topic.

Regarding young girls and related stuff, well, sexuality develops during puberty and all that shit about that brains are still forming until 21 is BS. These claims are just a BS that does not go to psychology papers. Except freak science that goes uncited. Which tells you much. But it should be consensual. If a girl is not into casual sex, regardless of her age, guys should not trick them for that.

newName543456 · 2019-02-20T06:30:14+00:00

They are disgusted by sexuality of like 80-90% of males, or should I say, anyone they are not attracted to.

For whoever they deem "hot", obviously not the case.

Female_urinary_maze · 2019-02-18T04:46:22+00:00

I'd even wager that we're much more alarmed by youth/virginity fetishists than some guys (and some people in general) are by women who have lots of sex. Those guys don't want to fuck slutty women, but I don't think they're afraid of them. As much as there's nothing fundamentally wrong with a dude fantasizing about being a young (ADULT) woman's first love we can't help but see red flags. There's a lot of baggage associated with that fetishism, a lot of horrid religious indoctrination, a lot of moralizing about other people's sex lives, a lot of statutory rape, and a lot of unpleasant personal experiences that many women share.

nevomintoarce · 2019-02-18T14:07:30+00:00

Do not mistake tradcons for "most men."

Tradcons are weird by the standards of most Western men.

As /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin is always pointing out, those tradcon types also usually do not even come from a Western culture themselves. They dislike Western culture because they don't do well in our open SMP and want things to be like they are in their own culture.

Most regular men in the West do not want virgin brides, they do not neurotically obsess over n-count, they are not "disgusted by sluts" - although they may very well not want to marry one, they are not disgusted by them either.

And yes the men who talk about "defiling innocent virgins" are creepy to me too. That's not a male vs. female thing it's a cultural difference above anything else.

Title	Would you say women are as disgusted by male sexuality as men are of “sluts”?
Author	GridReXX
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Date	February 18, 2019 12:50 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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