CMV: Women are scared of TRP because if men wake up to the reality of how badly men are getting screwed then life won't be on easy mode for women anymore.

TheBlackQuill · 2017-06-18T23:39:17+00:00

Most of women hate the "hateful" rhetoric of the sub. Being told stupid, childish, selfish is not exactly flattering no?

drok007 · 2017-06-18T22:42:16+00:00

There were about 2 weeks after the election before they got back to their screaming/muh russia where there was legitimate fear, on this sub, on most big leftist defaults like 2x, and from annoying feminists I personally know about the collapse of their narrative and that maybe they need to dial it down. That's as close as I've seen to what you're talking about.

TRP isn't mentioned much outside of reddit etc but when it is its typically ridiculed not feared

NalkaNalka · 2017-06-18T22:53:31+00:00

The progressive left has a stranglehold on just about all the factors that go into influencing a young man's beliefs as he grows up. As long as the man goes through life decently confortable and is not a free thinker (and few are) he will have no reason to ever go red pill. TRP will always be a niche market as long as society keeps chugging along.

If anything it will continue to get more and more feminist and the playing field will tilt farther against men as a whole. Barring a civilization collapse, war, famine epidemic or other such niceties, things will just continue on the path they are on.

PS: also women are not scared of TRP, it doesn't effect them in any way. A far bigger threat to "what woman want" TM are vidya, porn and apathy.

honeypuppy · 2017-06-19T00:11:54+00:00

a girl with good game can live her whole life doing fuck all and amass more wealth than a dude cranks out at the corporate ladder

This is laughable. If she's young and attractive, maybe she can snag a much older rich man who she's not attracted to, and then get divorced 10 years later when he leaves her for the next gold digger. She'd then be lucky to get much out of the pre-nup. Very few women are capable of and interested in this strategy.

Love8Death · 2017-06-19T05:12:02+00:00

Even if TRP were more popular which it won't be because it attracts a certain type of unsuccessful male, men would still be desperate thirst whores. Blame men's unquenchable and pathetic thirst for why many women can get whatever they want not this imagined gynocracy which trps and mras like to blame their problems on

Il128 · 2017-06-19T03:38:05+00:00

I don't mind TRP. If anything it helps women weed out the type of men we want to avoid.

sublimemongrel · 2017-06-18T23:12:14+00:00

Girls don't have life on easy mode. They have sex on easy mode because sex ain't there game. It's our game to get it from them. Their game is to find one good partner. If the 80/20 rule is to be believed, the shit's a bit stacked against them too, no?

It's when you mistakenly equate top 20 men to top 80 women that it seems fucked. Those men only fuck those women, they don't commit anything to them. You gotta be the top 20 to do it, but they gotta lock down the top 20 to achieve their own biological goal.

I certainly don't envy them. I'll take having to take care of myself and not be a pussy over having to find a man who's simultaneously alpha enough to excite and beta enough to commit any day.

exit_sandman · 2017-06-18T23:19:19+00:00

Women are scared of TRP because if men wake up to the reality of how badly men are getting screwed then life won't be on easy mode for women anymore.

This would require women to actually be acutely aware of how good they have it, which I strongly doubt is the case.

They aren't just dimly aware of it the way white people living in the West know they have it better than 99% of mankind throughout history but decide to not beat themselves up about it - they truly and sincerely think that because they're women, they got the short end of the stick. Though it's not as if the agents of the feminine imperative weren't going to great lengths to make sure it stays that way.

Butt-Factory · 2017-06-18T23:52:18+00:00

I'm "scared" of TRP the same way I'm "scared" of flat earthers. Sure, there's something inherently alarming about witnessing a large group of people be so gullible and buy into obvious bullshit. Even so, it really doesn't have an effect on me in any way. I'm going to continue banging and dating lots of effeminate men, earning lots of money, not having children, and enjoying my life.

alreadyredschool · 2017-06-18T22:49:32+00:00

Is it that hard to believe that people dislike it for the tone?

HugMuffin · 2017-06-18T22:44:18+00:00

If women were brutally honest with men than men would undo the suffrage movement within a week.

Hawanja · 2017-06-19T05:02:41+00:00

No, women are not scared of shit. No one really gives a shit about you guys or the stupid childish baloney you believe. The only thing that scares them is the tendency of the more crazy of you to flip out and go on murder sprees from time to time.

RockinSocksII · 2017-06-18T23:32:51+00:00

You must've missed that I use RP, but I have wade through all the vitriol about women. There's a way to present the good stuff without layering it in all of the "women are children" shit.

blackedoutfast · 2017-06-19T05:18:37+00:00

the real reason women hate TRP (and PUA) is that it allows men who aren't naturally high SMV to become high SMV men through hard work and discipline (TRP) or to simply mimic them (PUA).

the sexual goals of men and women aren't exactly the same. men want to have lots of sex with attractive women. women want to have sex with the best possible men. for men, there are fewer possible drawbacks to having a high n-count so that's where male sexual strategy tends to focus. there are lots of potential drawbacks for women who have tons of casual sex (pregnancy, etc) and men are much thirstier so female sexual strategy focuses more on filtering for the highest quality males.

women don't really want just want a guy with 6 pack abs or whatever for merely aesthetic purposes. what they really want on a fundamental level is to combine their genetic material with the genetic material of a very reproductively successful man. doing so means her offspring are more likely to also be reproductively successful. that natural Chad who eats junk food and never exercises but still stays shredded is likely to have sons who are also naturally sexy with zero effort.

the problem is that if a woman sees a man with perfect 6 pack abs she doesn't know if those abs are due to perfect genetics and the guy has them naturally with zero effort, or if the guy's natural state is a pot belly and the abs are the product of years of hard work and discipline. the guys make look the same and fuck the same and make her tingle in the same ways but if she gets knocked up by the hard work abs guy, it's very possible that her children will be potbelly low-SMV sexual failures.

women really like when men are ambitious and driven and relentlessly pursue their goals. and they also really like when men are aesthetically pleasing. but if they have the choice between a guy who is naturally sexy and a guy who is equally sex BUT HAD TO WORK FOR IT, they will choose the naturally sexy guy and then come up with some rationalization for that decision after the fact. the instinctive desire for naturally sexy men goes hand in hand with an instinctive disgust for men who are faking it.

that's why "just be yourself" is such common advice given to unsuccessful low SMV. men who hear this tend to take it at face value and think the woman is telling them how to get laid more. but really, the woman is telling the man to not be fake because she doesn't want him to fool anyone into thinking he has high SMV.

women don't WANT men to figure out how to get laid. what women really want is for men to be clueless and transparent. if every man on Earth started "just being themselves" it would make things so much easier for women. all the natural Chads would still be sexy but women wouldn't have to worry about getting fooled by guys with potbelly genes who found TRP and started lifting obsessively.

this is also why so many TRP haters assume that any RP man must be a complete loser basement dwelling incel misogynists. this is why they think that TRP/PUA skills would never work on them or any other quality women. this is why they will go to such lengths to absolutely destroy and doxx TRP members. it's not a rational disagreement with TRP, it's a very deep instinctive disgust based on evolutionary pressures.

women are scared of TRP because it works.

i_have_a_semicolon · 2017-06-18T23:39:13+00:00

How bout if my man was "woke" into believing a bunch of internet strangers over me, our lovely Relationship would be over before you could blink twice because that's a huge breach of what I find to be a reasonable Relationship boundary.

But in reality, NO women who works hard for her position in life would be afraid of TRP for this reason. oNly women who reap the benefits of being lazy and manipulating men would be angry at men for becoming woke. The women who like myself say NO to doing things on "easy mode" and seek to earn their worth, or never learned such a thing as "easy mode" exists (those with mothers who are breadwinners, for instance) , wish men WOULD wake up and stop giving shit to shitty women who make their penis feel good for free. It's not fair to women who are hard working and put an actual effort into their lives and relationships.

tallwheel · 2017-06-19T00:43:50+00:00

I guess maybe non RP women might be. There's no hiding that the male side of TRP is amoral and that can be jarring to a lot of people; women especially because from the outside it really looks like these men are dehumanized to some extent. If you're a woman that doesn't acknowledge the basic difference between sexes such as cultural differences in social interactions then TRP is extremely foreign and I could see how it could be frightening. I mean aren't most new/different/unfamiliar things that way to start?

The fact of the matter is that in life different things make each sex and each person happy. I think society(at least US) pushes very very hard for people to live a certain kind of life(big weddings, children, happy marriage, consumerism, etc.) that when you're shown something that isn't mainstream or what's been crammed down your throat it's easy to reject or scoff at. It's easy to pull the wool back down and deny that there might be truth in there. I don't think that the fear is because of the sexual game potentially becoming more difficult for women. Sex is the sprinkles on the cake, not the cake itself.

HugMuffin · 2017-06-19T00:53:09+00:00

Women are scared of TRP because they perceive it to be hostile and manipulative. BP wouldn't exist otherwise.

DashneDK2 · 2017-06-19T13:49:51+00:00

a girl with good game can live her whole life doing fuck all and amass more wealth than a dude cranks out at the corporate ladder

Absurd. There are not enough rich guys to go around. A young and very beautiful girl (top 1%) certainly has a shot at leveraging her beauty and youth to land herself a rich man or a man with potential to become rich. But this is not a option of the majority of women. And the rich dudes may not be all that attractive or nice to begin with. So even if it is a theoretical option, its a lousy deal. Marry for money and you'll earn every penny of it, as the saying goes.

Ascimator · 2017-06-18T22:36:29+00:00

They aren't scared of TRP, they just think it's creepy, because it is creepy.

jackandjill22 · 2017-06-18T22:38:13+00:00

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IckyStickyPoo · 2017-06-18T23:01:47+00:00

Women are scared of TRP because if men wake up to the reality of how badly men are getting screwed then life won't be on easy mode for women anymore.

Not at all. I see trpers say this all the time. They don't get it and will never get it. Hate to say it, but to think that is approaching a Roger Elliott level of crazy.

tallwheel · 2017-06-18T23:31:06+00:00

Hahaha. Men will always be gamed easily. Every single terper can be completly destroyed by a hot enough and manipulative enough lady. It's biology.

Il128 · 2017-06-19T03:50:12+00:00

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rreliable · 2017-06-19T08:35:36+00:00

Look, TRP is full of intense misogyny.

If you think that isn't perfectly sufficient reason to be afraid of it, you're misinformed.

And the weird thing is, your diagnosis of how they live life on easy mode is demonstrably, measurably true.

So you can't even comfort yourself with the idea that I oppose TRP because I am a denier of western female privilege. TRP sucks because of its misogyny, not its analysis, which is sound in several respects.

2017-06-19T03:12:25+00:00

The world is set up in women's favor, as the comments above illustrate. We live in a "gynocentric" society, in other words.

That's because you cucks dance for them in the first place. Stop offering and it won't be so easy for them.

Back in the 80s and 90s, it was way more common to hear about desperate spinster women who couldn't find a man. This doesn't happen anymore because pornification of society has led to men drooling all over anything with tits, giving women more options than they could have dreamed of.

ilikeallthegreatstuf · 2017-06-19T13:25:29+00:00

Women who behave as you described in the OP get absolutely zero respect.

High value, top tier women would never settle for such a meaningless existence at the mercy of others.

Love8Death · 2017-06-19T13:27:23+00:00

Not exactly.

It's not that life won't be on easy mode for them. It's that they won't be able to get married as easily, and they'll have to work for the rest of their lives. But women are showing us: If the choice is between marriage to an unattractive man and work; they'll choose work. Just like if the choice is between commitment from a lesser man, and getting pumped and dumped repeatedly by more attractive men, they'll choose the pump and dumps. So it isn't so much that life will be hard for women; it's just that marriage won't be an option for an increasing number. But I really don't think most women who aren't getting married care about that too much - they can work, have daddy government be the beta provider to make ends meet, and get sex from an endless string of attractive men.

Women aren't "scared" of TRP. They just don't like it, because "misogyny" (it isn't, but they believe it is). What really scares women is getting no attention from men, adverse judgment from men, and ultimately, that attractive men reject them.

quotient_is · 2017-06-19T15:39:35+00:00

Eh, I think the majority of women who are averse to RP are that way because of the implications of the source material. Hard to be cool with a belief system that states you're the "oldest teenager in the room", that you're incapable of rational thought and your contributions to society are at best meaningless and at worst destructive.

How can women even be aware that they're getting an easy deal if they can't grasp the concept of anything outside of their immediate (somehow subconscious) hypergamous needs?

Willow-girl · 2017-06-19T15:41:45+00:00

Women are scared of red pill?

Do tell.

Love8Death · 2017-06-19T15:55:03+00:00

Tbh I'm just a bit scared of the red pill because of the violent tone and their fucked up views on rape

Five_Decades · 2017-06-19T23:56:57+00:00

The average woman doesn't have hundreds of guys dancing for her. Many women rarely even get approached or hit on.

If you are the trifecta of young, pretty and thin then yeah you probably have decent options. But how many women hit that trifecta? It is like 5-20%.

Ascimator · 2017-06-18T22:37:52+00:00

Most women would be "scared" of TRP because after skimming through it, you really don't want to encounter someone who resembles an average TRP poster, for reasons unrelated to what you described. The same way I don't want to deal with a ball-busting, kooky radfem, except I have less to fear because I'm probably physically stronger.

lerellen · 2017-06-18T22:24:54+00:00

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2017-06-18T22:48:09+00:00

This is pretty basic RP stuff, and no one will change your mind because your statement relies on too many assumptions you've already made.

a girl with good game can live her whole life doing fuck all and amass more wealth than a dude cranks out at the corporate ladder

this isn't true unless the girl is beautiful.

Same way guys learn game. Practice, and lots of it.

this isn't true if the guy has great genetics, never had to try with women (natural "alpha")

First off, I don't think men are getting "screwed", unless they willingly play ball the way women want them to. Is it unfair? Probably. Most women have much easier access to casual sex, and can date men who have much more $$ than they do. Nowadays, casual sex for men isn't exactly hard to get either, and if it seems impossible there is prostitution. Marriage is a scam for men, so simply don't do it. Only way you get "screwed" is if you shell out hard cash/ marry, which is your fault to begin with.

Does TRP scare women? Nah, probably not. There's a sea of men ready to bankroll any whore that shows them attention. I don't really see that dwindling down any time soon. Also, TRP is still giving women what they want; men living their lives dancing like monkey's in order to impress them. There's even an LTR tab.

Ofcourse women aren't going to like TRP and it's either because they feel threatened by it or just believe they are sexists that "use" women. Either way it's the same result and a fishy one; few women care/sympathize with men's sexual failures and cannot offer a solution without it sounding like "wait for her when she's done riding the carousal".

2017-06-19T00:57:03+00:00

Do they really have life in easy mode?

I live in a nice umc part of town where you see sahm at the private pools all day with their kids while riding around in Lexus SUVs.

But that lifestyle isn't the majority

quotient_is · 2017-06-19T02:23:00+00:00

That's not the reason why I dislike it.

I dislike it because they go out of their way to demean women. Also, they openly spread neoreactionary propaganda and are not even honest about it.

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2017-06-18T22:19:55+00:00

whatever will women do if they're surrounded by Chads all the time

Il128 · 2017-06-19T03:09:52+00:00

Men aren't getting screwed. Life isn't fair and there will always be winners and losers.

Yes, there will be a metricfuckton of losers compared to winners, that's life. That's not getting screwed, that's just losing. There's a big difference.

IIHotelYorba · 2017-06-19T03:36:12+00:00

I don't think so. I think women tend to shit test any man that seems to have value. TRP by definition should generate more shit tests be as they are guys who don't have value leanteign to be guys that have value, something that kind of shouldn't happen in a girl's mind.

Just get used to women acting in a hostile way if you appear to have value. She's trying to keep guys who are fakes from getting her pregnant- a death sentence for women in the pre-Pleistocene era.

Ultramegasaurus · 2017-06-19T03:38:21+00:00

a girl with good game can live her whole life doing fuck all and amass more wealth than a dude cranks out at the corporate ladder

A girl can nowadays make more money selling used underwear or do no-non porn streaming (video games in particular) and amass a fortune

bala-key · 2017-06-19T09:12:36+00:00

TRP is a tiny, tiny group in a small corner of the internet.

Otherwise kind of. A set of ideas that encourages men to invest less in women is bad for society, because single moms are bad for society. This has been true throughout history. Think of parents trying to keep their daughter away from the minstrels or have shotgun weddings etc.

n4w5 · 2017-06-19T10:54:04+00:00

A comedian (cannot recall right now) does a bit about the difference between sluts and studs.

To be a stud you have to have a good job, fit, good looking etc.

To be a slut you only have to be there.

There are loads of ugly sluts. Not many if any ugly studs.

2017-06-19T11:55:02+00:00

Women are more scared of TRP because it gives average and beta guys access to the power of "Game". Before TRP, only the alpha, top tier guys had access to "Guy Game" knowledge. Now, women are afraid that one they they'll be "Gamed" into being in a relationship with an average\beta dude just because his Game is strong.

Willow-girl · 2017-06-20T00:29:52+00:00

It will still be on easy mode. RP exists to teach being old-fashioned so that women will respond in kind. Rather than take for nothing in return, they'll give you some control and faithfulness which isn't really great payment for all the guy has to do to continue receiving that treatment.

Going their own way on the other hand, which is seemingly more popular is a threat to women's easy mode. Because rather than improve to provide for a woman who plays her part, it's improvement for self satisfaction alone, with potential for putting as little money into the system as possible.

That kills easy mode.

2017-06-20T20:15:30+00:00

Ah. Yea sorry that makes more sense. That's why the church in the past had so much influence. It was the primary agent of matchmaking in communities and providing laboring or soldiering men with wives

Relax_ItsJustAPhase · 2017-07-05T18:55:37+00:00

I think TRP guys are from another planet, they talk like sex is all that matters the way a hungry dog thinks a bone is all that matters.

In the real world women are just people and men are just people.

2017-06-19T02:11:06+00:00

The world is set up in women's favor, as the comments above illustrate.

We live in a "gynocentric" society, in other words.

What bothers me about this post is that you seem to be focussing very hard on the SMP (or getting laid in other words) and how that equates to a gynocentric society. It's no use being obsessed with sex all the time, it's unhealthy. There are lots of other things going wrong today, that girls get a lot of offers for sex is trivial.

TRP is never going to wake up all men, just be there to help those who dont want to be screwed over anymore. There is no future that I can see where men can get sex easier than women, there will never be a reversal in which men are chased for their beauty and women are chased for their resources.

The game wont change, just the way you play it.

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