Amy Schumer admits to raping a guy, feminists support her, /r/askfeminists decide the guy raped her...

screamingATtrees · 2015-05-29T04:05:55+00:00

Wow the comments... They still blame the man in his own rape...And yes flip the genders and they would be gathering torches and pitchforks

EeeeeeevilMan · 2015-05-29T03:42:43+00:00

A woman blatantly "rapes" a dude by their own retarded feminist definition of rape and somehow they manage to spin it--with a straight fucking face--that he's the rapist.

I don't know why I'm fucking surprised but I am. The bottom just keeps getting lower. That thread is honestly horrifying.

moose_war · 2015-05-29T04:17:46+00:00

Yo just to recap: if a woman rapes you, no one will care. If a woman accuses you of rape, you are fucked because everyone will believe her. If a woman hits you, people will laugh and if she is arrested she'll get a warning. If you hit a woman, you will get beaten by 12 white knights and go to jail.

And women have the nerve to say they always feel scared around men because of muh patriarchy.

GayLubeOil · 2015-05-29T04:31:01+00:00

After Lena Dunham got a free pass for molesting her own fucking sister, this doesnt surprise me one bit.

TRPn00b · 2015-05-29T04:23:04+00:00

If I ever get arrested for DUI I'll be sure to tell the judge that I was intoxicated and therefore could not consent to driving a car and I am not responsible for my actions. I'm sure he'll let me right off the hook.

MyReddit4 · 2015-05-29T05:27:15+00:00

Don't buy into any of this or anything like it. I'm convinced that these sort of posts/jokes/stories from fems are part of a means of further distorting the definition of rape.

This is "re-definition" bait.

You see, if we take the bait and spin it to If the guy was sober and the girl was drunk, it'd be rape or we acknowledge her he was drunk so, I like, totally raped him - either side gives credence the new, rad-fem definition of rape which includes regret-me-nots and consensual vagueness due to intoxication.

It's lose/lose. The only way to win is to ignore or reiterate that rape is the violent, sexual penetration of another against their will.

Mikesapien · 2015-05-29T03:35:05+00:00

I don't even know where to start... The shit they pull is insane, almost to the point where it disgusts me. Fuck man, scientists better get the spaceships to Mars up and running soon, these asshats feminists make me wanna skip to outer space. Thank god I found TRP.

moose_war · 2015-05-29T04:15:53+00:00

it's funny when women do it! just like it's funny when a woman cuts off a guy's dick! you gooo grrrrrrl

Bonlocan · 2015-05-29T05:26:11+00:00

Not surprising in the least. Earlier in the year there was an episode of Broad City in which one of the main characters is having sex with a guy and he passes out from the heat of the apartment. When she realizes that he's out she thinks for a moment and decides to continue despite his being unconscious. Later in the episode, the two girls are hanging out in a college dorm and one of them makes out with one a boy there who ends up being underage. The next day I was curious if there was going to be any outrage about what would undoubtedly be declared a rape and sexual assault of a minor were the genders reversed and found that not only was no one upset, but there was actually an article on The Slate titled "There was a rape on Broad City last night, and it was hilarious." Of course I'm not suggesting that the rape depicted needed to be outraged against (the man in the show when told what happened said he didn't mind), but the fact that if the genders were reversed the would've been a huge outcry really got me to realize the hypocrisy of how we view rape as a society. Seriously, just imagine a show in which a guy continues to have sex with a girl after she passes out and she tells him the next day that she was ok with what happened and that it's not a big deal- I think you can imagine the Jezebel headlines yourself.

reddedo · 2015-05-29T04:44:33+00:00

Is anybody surprised another feminist ideal is inconsistent with itself?

no, because they will happily twist everything to fit their narrative

and also, you forgot: men are always the criminals, women can never be the bad person

spicy_fries · 2015-05-29T04:55:06+00:00

Essentially, it's men and cultures fault that female on male rape isn't handled seriously.

I'm sorry.. but did you just suggest that its men's fault for being raped? That sounds a LOT like victim shaming/blaming. Isn't that expressly something feminists are against?? Its like saying "its the womans fault for getting raped because she didn't cover herself up". It is a highly sexist statement.

Lol! That's some gold right there!

The hamster wheel only spins in one direction.

just_noob_things · 2015-05-29T05:57:26+00:00

One such frontier has been deciding that drunk sex is rape- or to clarify, somebody who is intoxicated cannot give consent

that's been true for a while. if you're drunk to the point of being incoherent/passed out, consent isn't possible.

Now, putting aside the fact that this opens the door for two drunk people to simultaneously rape each other consensually,

this always gets a rise; usually, the responses i get are that the initiator (assumed to be the guy) is a rapist and the girl an innocent victim.

some even go so far to argue that she didn't enjoy it so he probably raped her

that's a new one. does that mean my ex who did starfish sex is a rapist?

deadlee_ · 2015-05-29T10:07:03+00:00

Well apparently it's hilarious when women beat the shit out of you, so this isn't much of a surprise.

IronMeltsinmyHands · 2015-05-29T05:00:30+00:00

this is just.... its like the old wrinkled bats in the villages who like to hate on men. The only way to take care of this is to see it as a gigantic shit test and win it.

You don't win it by talking, you don't win it by playing cards with these cunts. You don't win this game by giving women a voice, or a platform for independence.

The only reason women gather together now is because we've shifted from a culture based around family, to a culture based around the individual.

This is a giant shit test, where only beta men think they can pass if they give women more power.

Stop! You don't give a woman a sword. First of all, she doesn't even know how to hold a sword. She'll end up harming herself. Secondly, do you know the weight of that sword? [If you've never held a sword in your hand, ITS FUCKING HEAVY!] You give her that, she's gonna bitch and whine saying "YOU ASSHOLES MADE IT TOO HEAVY! I DEMAND MY FEELINGS BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND I BE GIVEN MY OWN POSSE OF BETA MALE SLAVES TO LIFT IT FOR ME!"

Giving women rights, is a good thing. But listening to their imagined slights, and delusions of patriarchy and how rape is a crime of power, and the new nonsense about consent, is useless, fruitless, and senseless.

Stop. Just stop. Learn how to pass shit tests. As a man, I say this to you. Learn to put your bitch in line.

Control your bitches.

Kynandra · 2015-05-29T08:51:53+00:00

Feminism is such utter bullshit. Actually no,bullshit is at least useful for something.

snobocracy · 2015-05-29T06:30:31+00:00

She did not have sex with him. At most she froze and let him have sex with her. If she was in full possession of her faculties I would say she had raped him, but what she describes of herself are things that rape victims feel.

Holy fuck... It is 100% about the feeeeeeeeeeeelings!!!

mryddlin · 2015-05-29T11:18:23+00:00

Wow, went through the livw thread.

The people supporting her are being down voted much stronger than I expected.

I honestly think the trend is starting to go the other way.

skipaBturner · 2015-05-29T11:32:26+00:00

Where does she admit that she raped him??

I read the article. IMO there is no rape in this story, from either side. The guy invites here over, is absolutely 'plastered', tries to knob her, too drunk to do it properly, but because she was already infactuated with him she let it it happen.

How can feminists say he raped her. She went to his house, she gave her consent. She said she wanted to have sex with him.. he couldn't even hold himself up, let alone force sex onto someone.

How is she raping him. Even though he is intoxicated, she explains that he kept trying to knob her without success, at one point going down on her. Let alone he invited her over at 8am.

jewishclaw · 2015-05-29T04:09:52+00:00

She is so motherfucking ugly, jesus.

Looks like fetal alcohol syndrome, with that non-existent upper lip.

markfeel · 2015-05-29T05:05:17+00:00

Reading that thread...god damn... makes me want to blow my fucking brains out seeing the insane amounts of vacuous hamstering they use attempting to justify their ridiculous ideas.

balalasaurus · 2015-05-29T12:57:39+00:00

Reading this stuff, it's not so difficult to understand. Women - feminists especially, cannot conceive their gender as aggressors. To do so would violate their self-conception as the victim which is, in essence, their basic survival strategy.

It's like Rollo says, in our society that's adopted the feminine reality, the female imperative to be realized, must sacrifice the male. Women like Schumer are indeed rapists to the rational mind. However our reality is a feminine one, thus she can never be an aggressor, and can only be a victim.

Posing the question of what would happen if the roles were reversed to a feminist, is an exercise in futility. This is because in their reality anyone who is not a victim, must be an aggressor. And because all women are victims, it follows that all men are aggressors. Thus, if the roles were reversed, a man would always, and undoubtedly be a rapist.

Stories like this are useful because they remind us to be vigilant. To be in control of yourself and to be wary of those things that you don't. Remember society is not going to help you. You've got to help yourself.

Betterthanuatlife · 2015-05-29T13:57:56+00:00

Feminism = Female psychopathy

MattyAnon · 2015-05-29T14:30:13+00:00

"Equality" is the sell to make feminism seem acceptable to men.

The reality is that the vast majority of women are deeply sexist and apply "equality" only to themselves.

mojo_juju · 2015-05-31T21:49:43+00:00

I love this comment, which is sourced from:

https://dontmarry.wordpress.com/

"Every woman in Canada is a victim of rape every day. They can’t board a bus, get in a car, pick up a book (like that’s going to happen), or browse the internet without getting bent over the sink by a ravenous white male lurking behind them. The true rape rate is 10,000% – South Africa has nothing on the Canuck. Russian occupation of Berlin circa 1945? Mongol or Viking invasions? Pikers.

"The ancient world has nothing compared to Toronto today. Why you can’t walk down the street without tripping over two or three rapes in progress. It often makes me miss my bus as being an evil white man I can’t resist watching the foul proceedings. White men just can’t resist ugly, man jawed, morbidly obese, smelly, hairy, mustache thick land whales who trundle around in mobility scooters. Its true – raping them can be a chore as it is often times difficult to find the correct fold in which to ‘insert the patriarchy’ but somehow it is managed."

"So the next time you visit Toronto be sure to shed a tear for the billions of daily rape victims you are constantly seeing bellyaching about all the forms of oppression they endure as they sip their overpriced milkshakes in Starbucks. No one has ever had it worse than them."

abcd_z · 2015-05-29T05:48:50+00:00

The stupid comments in the AskFeminists thread were heavily downvoted, so don't assume that everybody (or even anybody) on that subreddit agreed with the comments made there.

It would be like somebody claiming that TRP is misogynistic because a comment with large amounts of negative karma advocated beating women.

ramot1 · 2015-05-29T06:02:04+00:00

I cleaned this up for even moderate language. From elsewhere on Reddit: Not my writing, but i forgot where on Reddit I found it: Maybe TRP.

I just wanted share my take on things:

Women,

I want you all to understand and remember the following:

Almost every single brick in every single building you have ever occupied was put there by a man. Almost every inch of road you have ever traveled on was put there by a man. Almost every watt of electricity you have ever used was carried by a system, almost every inch of which, was put there by a man. Almost every bullet fired (or suffered) to protect your safety and freedom was fired (or suffered) by a man.

The list goes on and on, and the point is that almost all of the most fundamental stuff you depend on was put there by a man.

Now I am not some kind of misogynist, and most men aren't either. I don't want to keep women "in the kitchen" or any other such retarded ideas, and most men don't either. So stop acting like we do.

There is, however, a natural order to things. Men end up doing the vast majority of these lousy difficult things because it must be done. Usually women are nowhere to be found when it's time to pour 3 miles of fresh asphalt. And I don't blame women for this - asphalt is nasty stuff. Of course, paving roads is just one of many examples, and the point here is to recognize that you owe men a debt of gratitude and recognition for certain things. You don't need to bow down and kiss our feet or anything. Just recognize that we take care of a lot of the worst stuff for you, in general. That's all. Not a big deal.

The OP's article indicates that women are not getting the idea discussed by the original author in the first part of my post. And I conclude they never will.

Edit: After having read the article, I can really decide who, if anyone, was at fault, if fault exists. Both made really bad decisions, but Amy leaving seems like the best decision out of many that led to this failure.

Archwinger · 2015-05-29T14:01:27+00:00

You guys are completely missing the point. For millions of years, men – the patriarchy – have defined what the sexual norms are and what is and what kinds of sexual acts are and are not acceptable in society. And that meant beating and raping women at will, because all men are sex-crazed perverted oppressors.

This B-rate female comedian (who would be a billionaire if society hadn’t conditioned us to prefer male comedians, yet she bravely struggles in a male-dominated world) was raped.

She got a booty call communication from a drunk guy friend in college, showed up to his room in response to that booty call communication, and he reeked of alcohol and was clearly wasted. How offensive is that? He couldn’t even try to fuck her sober and cleaned up? He tried to initiate sex and pull her toward the bed. He didn’t force her or overpower her, but he definitely initiated. He was the aggressor! She just went along with it.

He did everything to her, except for the parts where he was flaccid due to his intoxication and the parts where he passed out entirely and she kept performing sexual acts on his passed out body anyway. But that’s because she froze up and panicked and was afraid of what might happen. You don’t understand what it’s like to be a woman and how afraid they are of all men all the time. Unconscious men are the worst. They could wake up at any time, refreshed from their rest, and beat and rape you harder than a non-rested man.

After the booty-call sex that she responded to, she felt kind of used, like a fuck-doll. She didn’t enjoy the sex and felt bad about the sex.

Feeling bad about the sex is something rape victims also experience.

If she felt like a rape victim, then that means she was one.

This woman was raped, and you shithead rape apologist man-children who are being critical of her are what’s wrong with the world. Your time is over. The patriarchy doesn’t define sex any more. Sex-positive feminists define the encounter and what it was. After the fact. Based on how they feel about it.

I had this friend back in college who was raped. She has the e-mails to prove it. She was dating this guy and told him she didn’t want to have sex unless they were going to get married. He promised to marry her. In writing! He broke up with her six months later after she cheated on him during spring break, and she came to me in tears. He promised he would marry her and broke that promise. She consented to sex based on that promise, and he deceived her. I can’t wait until rape-by-deception laws are passed so we can stop atrocities like this.

Cyralea · 2015-05-29T13:24:49+00:00

If anyone cares, here's a deconstruction of "feminist" (aka hamster) logic. Recall that they're not looking for the truth, they're looking for any reason to feel good about their existing ideas:

There's a lot of sweeping statements about feminism in your question which aren't true at all: that feminists secretly want a war on men, that feminists applaud the rape of men, and so on.

Irrelevant point meant to weaken OP's argument. OP never actually suggested these were true, only that if they weren't true then Schumer's behaviour is incongruent with her beliefs.

Your post strikes me more as a rant than an actual question.

Translate: You have ulterior motives, so I can dismiss you and not your argument.

Regarding Amy Schumer: she is a comedian who, while talented, frequently makes problematic jokes about sex, race, gender, and so on. She is not some kind of feminist messiah.

She's No True Scotsman. It's a way to dismiss any behaviour on the part of feminists that paints them in a bad light.

From what I can tell from the (poorly cited) article you linked,

Translate: I'm going to say I don't believe your article is true, so I don't have to address your argument

she's not making any claims that this encounter was empowering or egalitarian in nature.

Translate: I'm going to deny a very obvious fact, as that lets me avoid addressing your argument. (Note at the end of the article Schumer says: "Now I feel strong and beautiful". It's clearly a self-empowerment speech)

But even if she had, she doesn't speak for all feminists.

Shifting goalposts.

In my opinion, if the consent was as murky in this case as the article* makes it sound, no true feminist should be praising her.

Only honest bit in her diatribe.

Nor have I actually seen any doing so.

Except, you know, Schumer herself. She's a public feminist figure with a decently large following. But really, no one was praising her...except a large national newspaper. But if she hasn't seen it, that means it doesn't exist, so she won't go looking for it.

It should be noted that anyone can post to Thought Catalog and it shouldn't be relied upon as unbiased or an authority, despite the pretty website.

Translate: Attack the source, so I don't have to address the argument.

When we say that women are mentally inferior, this is why. She is completely incapable of addressing the argument but feels this is a good, "logical" response to a difficult question.

ShitfacedBatman · 2015-05-29T18:47:53+00:00

Straight-up victim-wannabe too. A quote from a Huffpo interview: "I Think People Hate Women." And she babbles about sexism in Hollywood. Give me a goddamn break.

What a cunt.

UzairDjillaliYahud · 2015-05-29T10:53:42+00:00

are women even worth the effort nowadays?

Shankar_ · 2015-05-29T06:24:45+00:00

Hamster's spinnin' on overdrive.

Techngro · 2015-05-29T06:35:17+00:00

That article was actually just sad. I kinda like Amy Schumer, but...sad.

[deleted] · 2015-05-29T10:25:54+00:00

This is pathetic.

Okay, imagine for a second, genders reversed, and this were a rendition. The scene in a movie, portrayed as a mortified woman, who's had her dignity shamefully trampled upon by some ignorant and seemingly stupid drunk.

Oh but wait, it's not, in fact it's spun like in a comedic, self liberating way, that feminists can happily cherry pick as victimisation and misunderstanding so that society excuses Amy Schumer, in line with decorum.

Where's the so called 'equality' in that? It's bullshit hypocrisy.

[deleted] · 2015-05-29T11:01:18+00:00

Can I just love say that I love the guy who asked the question on the AskFeminists link?

I'm sorry.. but did you just suggest that its men's fault for being raped?
That sounds a LOT like victim shaming/blaming. Isn't that expressly something feminists are against??

Instead of attacking the website or the person, care to address the concerns and points being raised?
If Adolf Hitler says 2 + 2 = 4, it doesn't make him wrong because he is adolf hitler. the person making a point is irrelevant to the truth or rational value of the point being made.

If you are unable to make your point without being calm, then perhaps your point is not worth making or listening to.

Why aren't feminists calling for that womans head? I mean... they called for the head of a guy wearing the wrong shirt on tv, is this issue less important?

dandar4600 · 2015-05-29T15:21:00+00:00

The answer, of course, is never be alone with a woman. They represent a legal liability in any and every scenario.

There is a head engineer where I work that lives by that motto. He will never allow himself to be alone with one of the females. When he was leaving the office and I was staying (different department) he was joking saying "Oh, you can stay. All females are gone for the day." It's sad that it's coming down to that. I work for a small private company so almost no HR. I can just imagine how bad it must be at bigger places where one female complaint will get you canned no questions asked.

thefisherman1961 · 2015-05-29T16:10:56+00:00

One such frontier has been deciding that drunk sex is rape- or to clarify, somebody who is intoxicated cannot give consent, therefore having sex with somebody intoxicated is rape.

Also depends entirely on your definition of "intoxicated". Suppose I am with an alcoholic chick who can drink half a fifth of vodka and not feel anything. She is legally intoxicated, but I can't tell the difference as she seems sober to me. We consent to having sex. That means I raped her, despite the fact that we consented.

Aside from that, at what magical threshold does somebody cross from being sober enough to consent and too intoxicated to consent? Suppose it's 0.08. If she's 0.07, we're good, but if she's 0.08 that means I raped her. Having sex with a girl with a difference of 0.01 BAC is the difference between having consensual sex, and being accused of rape and getting sent to jail to be raped for decades (ironically). Do I need to start breathalizing every girl I sleep with before having sex?

What if she's intoxicated on something else besides alcohol? Why should I be expected to know that? According to feminist logic, shouldn't I be able to retroactively revoke consent because she mislead me into believing that she was sober enough to consent when she wasn't, meaning she is also rapist?

There are way too many holes that can be poked in that argument. You're responsible for your own actions, being intoxicated doesn't give you a pass. If you give consent while intoxicated, no matter how intoxicated, then later regret it once you sober up, that's your problem. Regretting sex you consented to does not make it rape.

[deleted] · 2015-05-29T10:02:41+00:00

The realistic advice is to secretly film any and all sexual encounters with women. It's the only sane way to play in a world where a woman's word is enough to get you sent to prison for decades.

[deleted] · 2015-05-29T14:04:09+00:00

I fucking hate Amy Schumer. All her jokes can be summed up as "I'm such an unattractive slut! My vagina!" Now everyone's on her dick because she's trying to do this feminist shit on her show, the show called "Inside Amy Schumer", which I'm sure is another reference to her pussy.

Goddamn I hate her fucking face.

[deleted] · 2015-05-29T05:00:52+00:00

Latest episode of her show has a lengthy sketch about society giving Cosby a pass on his "rapes." Frankly, I don't care about his rapes or her rapes, but there may be something wrong with me.

NidStyles · 2015-05-29T09:06:04+00:00

I swear, it's like these bitches have had their brains plunged out of their heads from all of the blowjobs...

CptFizz · 2015-05-29T10:17:25+00:00

Nobody here should be surprised. You can't expect reason from ideologs. It's like discussing Judasim with anti-semites. They'll twist and turn every fact until it fits their ideology.

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[deleted] · 2015-05-29T06:36:17+00:00

I'm subscribed here so that I can see different perspectives on most topics regarding women, even if they are usually with generalizations and other fallacies, but this one actually brings up a good point.

pennypuptech · 2015-05-29T11:27:20+00:00

My favorite comment:

"What the OP is failing to say is that Amy Schumer was responding to a booty call by a drunken dude when she was a young college student feeling thrilled that an older student was paying attention to her. If you read the speech that she gave recounting this incident, you will quickly see that the guy was not only the initiator of the sexual encounter, he was the aggressor through it all. She was essentially his fuck-doll and she got no pleasure from it at all. The little boys on reddit like to call it rape because Amy was sober while the guy was drunk and stinking of booze."

DPestWork · 2015-05-29T13:25:04+00:00

Wow, just wow. I might have to go looking for comments these people wrote in the past to copy-pasta and prove their hypocrisy.

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HellbillyDeluxe · 2015-05-29T14:08:14+00:00

When I found TRP and began reading about how women perceive reality based on their feelings I inherently knew that to some extent, but I doubted how far it went. However I came to see that their feelings are all that matter to them in any given situation, whatever they are that is reality even if it is not in any objective way. This was confirmed upon reading the comments to OP's post. In it a situation that was clearly what femmenist would call rape if roles were reversed was judged not to be such based not on the facts of what happened, not on how the victim himself even felt; but rather how the rapist (Amy) felt. Amy described herself as feeling bad about it having anxiety, etc. thus it was not rape because she felt this way. There ya go men as long as you feel bad and hate yourself having sex with a woman who is blasted drunk is ok according to feminists. I really wish I would have found TRP many years ago before my 30's and marriage, better late than never I suppose.

TL;DR TRP is right about how women operate in this world. This post is a great example.

bombilla42 · 2015-05-29T14:19:20+00:00

I hate to be a douche, but where in the transcript of the speech does the admitting of "rape" occur? Everything I just read was a bunch of woe-is-me bullshit about how she's not pretty, just wants to be loved, etc.

But seriously... someone point out the exact sentence/paragraph where her rape of Matt is explicitly mentioned.

A_Becker · 2015-05-29T16:13:49+00:00

I'm glad to see a female (Amy, in this case) stand up and admit wrongdoing. Most women today just try to shove the blame on men then pretend like it's all in the name of equality.

screamingATtrees · 2015-05-29T17:18:15+00:00

I starting to see that women truly believe they aren't ever accountable for their actions...always something else they blame.

ZackCross · 2015-05-29T19:02:07+00:00

That thread confirmed the core of feminist belief for me;
It's not about what was done, it's how the woman FEELS about it.
She "feels" like a rape victim, even though she could have left when she saw he was wasted (or better yet when he was literally Unconscious), so therefore she is the one that was raped and not him.
It's sad how women badly women say they want "equality" yet they try so hard to dodge any sort of consequences for their actions.

[deleted] · 2015-05-29T19:15:08+00:00

This is one those things where we need to copy this nearly word for word, only changing some grammar and shifting the genders around. Then we post it in the same place and see what the responses are.

Predictably, I would say they will argue the guy raped her even though she was the drunk one forcing herself on the guy.

Then we post a side by side comparison so they can see their own hypocritical bullshit.

Unfortunatley, it most likely wont do anything though.

processedfoodkills · 2015-05-29T19:18:39+00:00

False rape allegations are a problem, but not that big of one. You have a better chance of contracting a deadly disease, but you don't worry about that when going outside. Just don't get with crazy chicks and don't make them feel like they need to defend their "honor" by saying they were raped.

despisedlove2 · 2015-05-30T01:43:49+00:00

I didn't think that any shit that modern feminists could pull could get past my cynicism, but this did.

Every single feminist on that thread is a psychopath.

cover20 · 2015-05-30T13:19:38+00:00

I admit that reading her article, I would not think of "rape". I would put myself in the drunk guy's shoes and wish he could get it up properly.

But it's not about feelings. It is about the law. The law says she raped him.

She should be prosecuted, convicted and put on lifetime sex offender status, forced to register ... all the shit that happens. Maybe if that happens, a few more SJW's will stop being poisonous and support changing the ridiculous laws, instead.

Mr_Andry · 2015-06-01T09:27:46+00:00

So painful to read. A bunch of those people responding apparently cannot hold two thoughts in their head at the same time. Respond to one and the other pops up, and vice versa.

[deleted] · 2015-07-29T10:59:28+00:00

Hey guys, if you do something that is rape by our definition, its cute, empowering and a coming out story.

squirtmasterd · 2015-05-29T08:11:10+00:00

Why are you bothering trying to rationalise with mental extremists, some of those feminists are the breed that thinks all rape is sex, so yes, by their insane definition, she was raped. These extremists very rarely impact real life and when they do its big news.

mryddlin · 2015-05-29T11:44:51+00:00

Haha I got banned for posting in it.

Comment was pretty neutral, obvious TRP based ban :)

elili · 2015-05-29T12:14:49+00:00

So from now on, girls will be afraid of getting drunk and then rapped, and guys will be afraid of getting drunk, some girl approaching them and wake up with a rape lawsuit

[deleted] · 2015-05-29T12:17:30+00:00

TIL That no matter the situation, when a woman has sex, she's raped. Gotta lock my son up so he doesn't get accused of rape.

RPthrowaway123 · 2015-05-29T12:34:08+00:00

Wow - the comments amaze me. "She's not making any statements about empowerment" one person says. Oh really?

Now I feel strong and beautiful. I walk proudly down the streets of Manhattan. The people I love, love me. I make the funniest people in the country laugh, and they are my friends. I am a great friend and an even better sister. I have fought my way through harsh criticism and death threats for speaking my mind. I am alive, like the strong women in this room before me. I am a hot-blooded fighter and I am fearless.

That sounds pretty fucking empowering to me, and good for her for being successful but don't try and tell me she's not talking about women's empowerment. She's just trying to contrast it with the fact that she got shitty sex from some guy in college that she is embarrassed to have had drunk sex with.

Oh and this gem is my favorite:

Essentially, it's men and cultures fault that female on male rape isn't handled seriously.

Never forget that as a man, it is pretty much always your fault!

JumpXVI · 2015-05-29T18:20:03+00:00

The title of this article is irresponsible clickbait. I read Schumer's gala speech, and nobody "raped" anyone. I don't care what was posted in AskFeminists, but we here should know better.

We should be very annoyed at the "if the genders were reversed" scenario, and very annoyed at AskFeminists spinning it that he raped her, like /u/EeeeeeevilMan said. But saying she "raped" him is playing right into "their own retarded feminist definition of rape" as he put it, and that's even worse because it's exactly what they want.

[deleted] · 2015-07-29T12:09:16+00:00

Women ask to be treated as equals which is cool and im all for. so why is it day after day I lose more and more respect for them and think them less and less intelligent. its seems all the work they put into changing societies views is having the opposite effect on me.

infantinemovie5 · 2015-05-29T11:29:32+00:00

I need to stop coming on this sub, because it fucking infuriates me everytime I do.

FrameWalker · 2015-05-29T14:27:38+00:00

Amy Schumer is an interesting beast. She's a comedian, and her writing staff does a decent job of showing the absurdity on both ends, even if there is a bit of a feminist swing the overall theme is that american sexuality is absurd. She ridicules AWALT behavior all the time. There's a great nice guy sketch too.

Ycjcyad · 2015-05-29T08:45:51+00:00

I think this is way off topic now...

For hundreds of years women have been objectified and oppressed by men. If you guys read some history on women and their rolls in society you will see that they have suffered a great deal at the hands of men.

Yes, there are laws that are very unjust and biased toward women but in a world where man governs who are we really going to blame but ourselves?

I say this because I read a lot of comments on here that are very unfair and generalize too much, making men victims in scenarios where they as their part.

I see a lot of men complaining about women threatening to take away their kids or women being * bat shit crazy*, we'll if you date a woman for a reasonable amount of time before you marry her or get her pregnant than maybe you'd of seen the crazy and you could of avoided it.

If men had more control over their hormones and exercised restraint when dealing with women then all this would be a lot different.

I think it's unfair to sit here and get off topic and try convince ourselves that were victims to women when we've done so much worse to them and continue to.

Yes, a lot of feminists are bat shit crazy but I think we, as men, have played our part in them being so.

Title	Amy Schumer admits to raping a guy, feminists support her, /r/askfeminists decide the guy raped her...
Author	redpillschool
Upvotes	1275
Comments	319
Date	29 May 2015 03:20 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	TheRedPill
Link	https://theredarchive.com/post/33046
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/37oeoi/amy_schumer_admits_to_raping_a_guy_feminists/

Amy Schumer admits to raping a guy, feminists support her, /r/askfeminists decide the guy raped her...

A better take than Camille Paglia

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I don't think drunk sex should be rape

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