Apparently I'm a troll

BarryOgg · 2011-07-05T23:27:22+00:00

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girlwriteswhat · 2011-07-05T19:31:19+00:00

I suppose if she spit on someone or threw a drink in their face, she'd feel they were totally justified in punching her in the ovaries then.

cnbdream · 2011-07-05T21:14:43+00:00

I just hate it when people derail arguments like this, which seems to happen all the time around here. "A 'shot to the nuts' could lead to infertility" -- "Oh yeah? Well if you're spitting in someone's face maybe you shouldn't be reproducing anyway." It's like, what? Where the fuck did that come from? That's absolute hearsay for so many different reasons it's not even worth getting into because it's just an obvious bullshit statement from some dumb fuck who's on the losing side of an argument because they've gotten all high and mighty about something they don't understand.

I took a pretty hard "shot to the nuts" once. Passed out from the pain. Woke up coughing up blood. I could get into some more gruesome details about how things looked down there for a while, but suffice it to say, it was scary as hell. I couldn't really walk right for the next couple of days. I had a fertility test done after the fact and thank god I was still functional. My point is, responding to someone spitting in your face with a "shot to the nuts" is pretty much the equivalent of responding to someone punching you in the face with a shot to the leg--with a gun. I'm not against self-defence, and there are times when making use of violence that can cause permanent damage like this is necessary, like if your life or someone else's life is in immediate danger. Defending your pride is not one of those times. Ever. Period.

gthermonuclearw · 2011-07-05T22:01:43+00:00

The "Are you a troll?" redditor responded:

First off, my comment is made almost entirely facetiously.

Yeah, that one went "whoosh" over me. The humor was lost.

Secondly, you make some pretty huge assumptions of me. One of which:

Insert the bit that cbeck287 said about crazy women losing their "reproductive licenses" here.

I don't disagree at all. In fact I think that's one of the major problems with humanity.

And this is where I make a snarky slippery-slope comparison to eugenics.

EDIT: By the way guys, please don't go downvote brigade that thread. It doesn't do anyone any good, and will just piss off the more level-headed and tactful 2X regulars. If you're looking for man-haters to make an example of, kimb00 probably isn't one.

cbeck287 · 2011-07-05T19:16:57+00:00

I was perusing twox, which I generally find to be a cool subreddit, and I found a post asking about the most bizarre date anybody had been on. One woman responded with a story about some crazy guy who spit in her face (obviously not acceptable and completely uncalled for) and the OP responds that that warrants "a shot to the nuts".

I interject saying that nothing warrants a shot to the nuts and there are a variety of other alternatives. Then I point out that a shot to the nuts could cause a hernia or infertility and someone says something along the lines of any man who spits in a woman's face to resolve grievances shouldn't have kids. Then I said that it's nobody else's decision as to who should and shouldn't have kids and that if woman could lose their parenting licenses for crazy shit they've done there would be hardly any children around.

Aaaaaaaaaand voila, that makes me a troll.

akuta · 2011-07-05T19:43:50+00:00

I find it mildly ironic that what seems to be a female is condoning female on male violence... I'm certain she wouldn't agree that if she kicked the guy in the testicles that he should then punch her teeth out of her mouth... When will these people learn that violence is never a rational answer to anything? A guy spit in your face? Return in kind or move on.

OP: You're not the troll in that exchange.

2011-07-05T23:21:10+00:00

Nah, you're correct and the girl there can't tell right from wrong. One thing though, you might be taking it too seriously. People aren't exactly rational when they are angry, and even less when they become a group o angry people. So there's no use arguing there (not that I wouldn't try it either =P).

Garandir · 2011-07-06T01:27:02+00:00

In kindergarten I was kneed in the nuts by a girl, because I found out who she liked. My left testicle was practically smashed, leaving me infertile. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's women smacking nuts.

ExpendableOne · 2011-07-05T20:23:49+00:00

Genital assault/forced-trauma like this is completely unacceptable, even if it was instigated by being spat in the face. There is no reason why society should take this kind sexual assault against men for granted the way it is now(women especially, since they not only have little to relate to in terms of pain/fear/consequences, and tend to be taught to see men and male sexuality with little more than disdain and apathy, but they also tend to be held far less accountable for their actions, especially when it comes to violence towards men).

If the genders were reversed, and a woman spat in a man's face(which isn't all that uncommon), would anyone ever really cheer him on to respond by grabbing a lead pipe, stuffing it down her uterus and then wobble it around in the hopes of causing as much damage as possible to her ovaries(possibly causing permanent damage, permanent hormonal instability, permanent infertility and life-altering emotional/psychological damages - more severe than anything that could have ever resulted from rape or other forms of sexual assault)? No, no one in their right mind would ever legitimately vindicate this. If anything, I'm pretty sure that it would be considered an atrocity by just about any social/ethical standards; yet somehow it's still considered acceptable or harmless(even something to encourage, as TwoXC has so eagerly chosen to demonstrate) to attack men in much the same way(or in it's closest physical equivalent).

inyouraeroplane · 2011-07-05T19:52:49+00:00

Oh they are so oppressed. What with their empowered violence... wait a minute...

Hindu_Wardrobe · 2011-07-06T00:54:31+00:00

Person thinking potentially taking away someones reproductive rights through blunt force trauma for being spat on = wow what a complete dumbfuck

Person thinking it is ever ok to assault someone and not have something potentially awful happen = wow what a complete dumbfuck

Solution: do not fucking spit on people It is assault and some people will react quite violently to it. If I were to look at any situation where violence was a factor I only marginally give a shit who got the worst of it, I am more interested in who turned it physical.

Scott2508 · 2011-07-05T21:36:24+00:00

id go so far as to say kimboo is the troll, anyone who can see nothing wrong with that sort of harm and is so happy to make light of the risk deserve all they get .

ThePigman · 2011-07-06T01:21:56+00:00

Okay, so i will follow the advice, and if a woman ever spits on me i'll kick her in the crotch so hard she'll be wearing her womb on her head.

GunOfSod · 2011-07-06T00:25:54+00:00

This tends to happen when you point out hypocrisies that challenge a persons cognitive equilibrium. They resolve their dissonance by either accepting they're applying double standards, or more often than not replying with an insult.

GeneralDisorder · 2011-07-06T14:21:30+00:00

My wife on a rare occasion makes joking gestures toward a nutshot. My response is always "if you want punched in the ovary, go right ahead and balltag me. When I get off the floor, it'll be payback time."

EDIT: Bold

Wulibo · 2011-07-05T20:54:34+00:00

I'm going to go ahead and say you were taking the nut shot comment a lot more seriously than she was delivering it.

Davethe3rd · 2011-07-05T21:25:18+00:00

To quote an old issue of Maxim's (yeah, I know) Man Rules:

"A kick to the groin should only be used in cases of mortal or ass peril".

Basically, nut-shots are only okay if you want to do serious lifetime damage to the man.

Also, OP's not trolling at all here and makes legitimate points, but dude, you know where you were... You know the audience of that SubReddit... You weren't trolling, but there's a good chance that you probably knew better... ;)

I'm reminded of something I once read in the Dilbert Principle (MR's hatred of Scott Adams notwithstanding):

"If a woman cusses out a man, she's a hero and he probably deserved it.

If a man cusses out a woman, he gets 3 months in prison." (He wrote this with sarcasm.)

bombld · 2011-07-05T23:48:06+00:00

TIL having an opinion makes you a troll.

kronox · 2011-07-06T00:54:47+00:00

"Why yes. I'm a magic troll from the mystical space voice called sarcasmos."

2011-07-06T15:39:25+00:00

Just wondering, what about in a scenario where a woman is being physically attacked by a man, is it then acceptable for her to kick him in the crotch? Not that I've ever been in this situation, but I feel like I'd probably kick him in the balls and run away if it was me.

Edamus · 2011-07-06T01:47:17+00:00

Bruce Lee followed the idea of injure to degree -- his main proponent of his art of Jeet Kune Do was a round or straight kick to the nuts. If someone hits me, I'm going to jab you in the eyes and kick you in the nuts -- repeatedly -- until you fall down. If you injure my family, so help you god. To say there is no justification for being kicked in the nuts, then that's absurd. One must understand the "injure to degree" idea... If you were about to get raped, then yeah... justifiable. If you were looked at funny, then yeah, no.

tl;dr -- injure to degree: about to get raped, okay. Looked at funny, kick the shin.

2011-07-05T20:51:05+00:00

Yeah what the fuck is it with that on reddit. I get that a lot too.

magister0 · 2011-07-06T12:41:42+00:00

I don't have the full context of this, but I think if someone spits on you, you have the right to physically respond.

ECook073 · 2011-07-05T19:35:34+00:00

False trolling accusations warrant a kick in the nuts.

Ruckusnusts · 2011-07-06T05:48:52+00:00

No, you are just socially retarded.

Hindu_Wardrobe · 2011-07-05T22:06:02+00:00

If some guy actually spat in her face

on a first date

she must be a fucking lousy date.

porkchop_d_clown · 2011-07-06T00:42:37+00:00

Yeah, I know how you feel - I get that a lot.

Justintoxicated · 2011-07-06T14:50:29+00:00

Trolls do not generally reveal that they are trolling when asked about it. Otherwise it would not be trolling.

AnnArchist · 2011-07-05T19:16:59+00:00

To be fair, I get spat on, I am going to injure the spitter until they are no longer a threat to spread diseases to me. . .

yasee · 2011-07-06T01:12:43+00:00

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rndthms · 2011-07-06T09:01:56+00:00

If somebody spat in my face, I would kick him in the nuts, then proceed to smash his face.

I don't see the problem here.

And yes, I'm a male.

thesnakeinthegarden · 2011-07-06T02:03:28+00:00

You are completely correct and the other person is wrong. I hate to see reason and logic spat at.

s0nicfreak · 2011-07-06T04:21:52+00:00

It is disturbing to me that most of the US thinks nothing of permanently disfiguring male genitals.

Any woman that supports kicking a guy in the nuts deserves a knife up her vag.

ScarletJew72 · 2011-07-05T20:40:46+00:00

Although I'm all for the men's rights movement, I'm gonna say that an incredibly rude and immature action deserves an incredibly rude and immature reaction. Getting kicked in the balls, included.

This isn't some random crazy woman trying to make innocent men infertile. It's a reaction to rude behavior.
The person is getting kicked in the nuts. Not having his ball sack repeatedly stomped on, or any truly malicious action such as that. I've been kicked/slapped in the nuts many times (by my guy friends), and in no instance have I been afraid about my fertility in the future. It's brief pain and nothing more.

It's the same mentality that I believe if a guy calls a girl a whore, she's allowed to slap him in the face as hard as she can.

fxexular · 2011-07-05T23:32:57+00:00

Ahahahaha. You have got to be fucking kidding me. This has to take the cake as the most pathetic excuse for a mens rights issue I have ever seen. You should all be fucking ashamed of yourselves you petty-minded morons.

effilctar · 2011-07-06T03:29:33+00:00

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Revorob · 2011-07-06T09:11:14+00:00

On the one occasion a chick tried to knee me in the nuts, I knee-blocked it and decked her in self-defence.

'Nuff said.

parlezmoose · 2011-07-07T03:35:12+00:00

Wut? Dude, if you spit in someone's face you deserve a swift kick to the nuts.

kimb00 · 2011-07-06T00:51:01+00:00

Way to include context.

How about you include the ORIGINAL post?

wakatopatopa: ...Then one day, he mentioned that he loved using prostitutes, and would often call one over when I left. That was a bit of a deal breaker for me, and when I told him that, he started spitting in my face over and over and over again. I'd see him around town and he'd still spit on me til next boyfriend punched him in the face for it.

monstermash-up: He...he...spit on you? Oh, I believe that calls for a shot to the nuts right there. There's just so much crazy in this one I don't even have words. Good on your boyfriend for taking care of business.

cbeck287: Guy here, nothing calls for a shot to the nuts.

monstermash-up: I'm sorry, but spitting in my face? That's when my gloves would be off.

cbeck287 Just be aware that a "shot to the nuts" could easily result in a hernia, or even worse, infertility.

To which I finally responded: Gonna go out on a limb here and say: Guy who resolves his grievances by spitting on people shouldn't be reproducing.

But sure, call on the hate brigade. Against ME personally.

rantgrrl · 2011-07-05T21:39:26+00:00

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GADBabaganoosh · 2011-07-06T04:27:59+00:00

It's because of self defense classes like this

Excuse the weird sound editing, this is the only video I could find.

GADBabaganoosh · 2011-07-06T04:28:37+00:00

It's because of self defense classes like this

Excuse the weird sound editing, this is the only video I could find.

Pre-Owned-Car · 2011-07-05T22:24:28+00:00

Are you a wizard?

2011-07-06T02:54:02+00:00

A kick to the nuts can cause infertility?

puts on ol' steel toes

Title	Apparently I'm a troll
Author	cbeck287
Upvotes	385
Comments	283
Date	July 5, 2011 7:13 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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